Comments on: Baghdad Dispatch: Fierce fighting in the central city http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 06:11:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: buck smith http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7936 buck smith Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:06:41 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7936 <i>When are the US and their western allies going to wake up to the fact that many of the peoples of the Middle East and elsewhere are not interested in US-style 'democracy'?</i> Some of the same people who use to blame US foreign policy for the existence of Mid-East dictatorships and authoritarian regimes, now say that is what people in the Mid-East wanted all along. To Omar and to Buck Sargent, thanks for your service... When are the US and their western allies going to wake up to the fact that many of the peoples of the Middle East and elsewhere are not interested in US-style ‘democracy’?

Some of the same people who use to blame US foreign policy for the existence of Mid-East dictatorships and authoritarian regimes, now say that is what people in the Mid-East wanted all along.

To Omar and to Buck Sargent, thanks for your service…

]]> By: Buck Sargent http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7935 Buck Sargent Wed, 11 Apr 2007 09:11:05 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7935 Spin works both ways, Damian, as your commentary so demonstrates. Propaganda is indeed in the eye of the beholder. Spin works both ways, Damian, as your commentary so demonstrates. Propaganda is indeed in the eye of the beholder.

]]> By: Mike http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7934 Mike Wed, 11 Apr 2007 08:49:33 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7934 Damian, that 650,000 figure that you site, has been discredited. I think you might be better served to do a little real research. Better yet find the citation that makes that 650,000 thousand claim. I believe it was a British journal that did all kinds of projections, based on very little reality. I also think it was the same journal that had the U.S.A. killing 20,000 children a year, while Saddam was in power because of "our" oil embargo. Damian, that 650,000 figure that you site, has been discredited. I think you might be better served to do a little real research. Better yet find the citation that makes that 650,000 thousand claim. I believe it was a British journal that did all kinds of projections, based on very little reality. I also think it was the same journal that had the U.S.A. killing 20,000 children a year, while Saddam was in power because of “our” oil embargo.

]]> By: red http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7933 red Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:46:34 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7933 Oh and Damian, since you obviously love Saddam so much, try to imagine being jammed in a big woodchipper. That's your buddy. Would you rather go in an oven (Hitler) or a woodchipper (Hussein). I know you approve of both. Oh and Damian, since you obviously love Saddam so much, try to imagine being jammed in a big woodchipper. That’s your buddy. Would you rather go in an oven (Hitler) or a woodchipper (Hussein). I know you approve of both.

]]> By: red http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7932 red Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:33:24 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7932 --massive turnout of Iraqi people who demanded that the US leave Iraq.--- You're joking right? I can get a bigger crowd for a progressive Celtic band. –massive turnout of Iraqi people who demanded that the US leave Iraq.—

You’re joking right? I can get a bigger crowd for a progressive Celtic band.

]]> By: Damian Lataan http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7931 Damian Lataan Wed, 11 Apr 2007 01:28:53 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7931 The Bush government and their right-wing supporters everywhere have gone into damage control mode after the massive turnout of Iraqi people who demanded that the US leave Iraq. Their spin is that such a demonstration could not have been held if Saddam had remained in power. Beside the obvious Chutzpah here, whereby if Saddam was still in power there would be no need to have a demonstration to rid the nation of the US invaders in the first place, there is also the naivety in the right-wings implied belief that the Iraqi people actually didn't mind having their nation destroyed, 650,000 of its people killed, another two million of its peoples made refugees, its resources plundered, and its people murdered by US troops on a daily basis just so that they can hold a demonstration and get to have a choice about which corrupt persons they'd prefer to have in a puppet government that exists only at the whim of the US. When are the US and their western allies going to wake up to the fact that many of the peoples of the Middle East and elsewhere are not interested in US-style 'democracy'? They have been on the receiving end of its hypocrisy and arrogance for decades and are no more interested in it now than they were when Europeans first came to the Middle East in modern times to plunder it for its fuel to power their industrial and war machines. The Bush government and their right-wing supporters everywhere have gone into damage control mode after the massive turnout of Iraqi people who demanded that the US leave Iraq. Their spin is that such a demonstration could not have been held if Saddam had remained in power. Beside the obvious Chutzpah here, whereby if Saddam was still in power there would be no need to have a demonstration to rid the nation of the US invaders in the first place, there is also the naivety in the right-wings implied belief that the Iraqi people actually didn’t mind having their nation destroyed, 650,000 of its people killed, another two million of its peoples made refugees, its resources plundered, and its people murdered by US troops on a daily basis just so that they can hold a demonstration and get to have a choice about which corrupt persons they’d prefer to have in a puppet government that exists only at the whim of the US.

When are the US and their western allies going to wake up to the fact that many of the peoples of the Middle East and elsewhere are not interested in US-style ‘democracy’? They have been on the receiving end of its hypocrisy and arrogance for decades and are no more interested in it now than they were when Europeans first came to the Middle East in modern times to plunder it for its fuel to power their industrial and war machines.

]]> By: noprisoners http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7930 noprisoners Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:36:36 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7930 Nice going, Omar! I learned a lot from this article. Good luck! Nice going, Omar! I learned a lot from this article. Good luck!

]]> By: joseph hill http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7929 joseph hill Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:00:56 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7929 all the cheap tricks and underestimation of those at rallies does not deny that the bad guys can still intimdate the good guys and that people are dying in droves daily and more of them are on the outskirts of the city now that we have put in more and more Americans to police Baghdad all the cheap tricks and underestimation of those at rallies does not deny that the bad guys can still intimdate the good guys and that people are dying in droves daily and more of them are on the outskirts of the city now that we have put in more and more Americans to police Baghdad

]]> By: TallDave http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7928 TallDave Tue, 10 Apr 2007 21:45:45 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7928 Thanks for the reporting. Most press here said things like "Tens of thousands of Shiites demand U.S. leave Iraq" and the anti-sectarian protests were not mentioned at all as far as I know. I hope things start to get under control in Baghdad. Iraq has a lot of potential if security can be established and corruption reined in. Thanks for the reporting. Most press here said things like “Tens of thousands of Shiites demand U.S. leave Iraq” and the anti-sectarian protests were not mentioned at all as far as I know.

I hope things start to get under control in Baghdad. Iraq has a lot of potential if security can be established and corruption reined in.

]]> By: Drew M. http://pjmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7927 Drew M. Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:16:06 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/baghdad-dispatch-fierce-fighting-in-the-central-city/#comment-7927 That's an amazing report. Keep it up but stay safe. That’s an amazing report. Keep it up but stay safe.

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