Avoiding the Clutches of Obama Derangement Syndrome
First some definitions. When we talk about ODS, or Obama Derangement Syndrome, we are obviously referencing its precursor, BDS — Bush Derangement Syndrome.
Neither phenomenon consists of mere dislike of the policies of the person in question. That’s allowed. One can even distrust the person or think he is lying, if there is evidence for it.
That’s the important part: evidence from behavior in the present. Although we are all emotionally driven in our lives — and there’s nothing wrong with that; who would want to be surrounded by Star Trekian Spocks? — at certain times and places there’s a need to put emotions on the back burner and attempt to evaluate things in the cold harsh light of reason.
Yes, there are reasons to fear that Obama has a far left agenda, based on his history, some of his own statements, and his associations. There are even reasons to believe that whether he does or doesn’t have such an agenda himself, he will lack the inclination (or perhaps the backbone) to stop the far left agenda of those with the power to pass bills — in other words, the hugely Democratic Congress and its leaders Reid and Pelosi.
But I suggest that everyone stand back, take a deep breath, and wait. Wait, and observe. It will become clear enough as Obama chooses a Cabinet and advisers. And then it will become even more clear as he takes office and begins the work of government. More clarity will come as he handles the inevitable crises and tests that will occur on his watch.
The goal of each of us should be to react only to evidence, not fear. That’s not easy. But our task is actually easier than that of our predecessors, the sufferers from BDS. After all, they had an MSM whipping them up into a frenzy twenty-four hours a day. In addition, those on the right have always taken pride in the fact that in their political decisions they are driven more by reason, in contrast to the left’s emotion. Whether or not this is true is not the issue here; the point is that, if conservatives believe it is true, they should act in accordance.
To act in accordance means to act as I wrote recently:
It is necessary both for the sake of the country and our own well-being to give the man a chance to prove those fears wrong. And it is also necessary to hope that he will do so, and to believe that whatever happens, our Constitution and our form of government is not as fragile as all that.
This does not mean that the right should fall asleep at the switch. On the contrary; watchful waiting is the order of the day. The right is correct to start organizing and regrouping and doing a postmortem on what went wrong during this election and during the Bush administration, to avoid future repeats and to emerge stronger. But it only weakens that effort when people fall prey to fears (even seemingly rational ones) and projections.





It would certainly help if Obama would knock off with shoving versions of his agenda down the memory hole, or would come out against vote fraud in Minnesota, or issue some coherent reason why his website would take donations from overseas with less screening than would sextoys.com.
Bush ran as a sitting governor, from a political family, with a history. Obama has intentionally been a cipher. Paranoia and conspiracy theories may be something of an overstatement, but the rational-concern-o-meter is pretty close to pegged.
Interesting that the president elect promised to go get Osama bin Lying no matter where he is hiding in Afghanistan.
“We will do the job Bush has never finished.”
Pray tell me how a man that didn’t even know his aunt and uncle were hiding in a Boston slum is going to go get a man that has hidden from the most sophisticated intelligence gathering organizations in the world.
Promises, Promises, Promises, Promises
“Bush Derangement Syndrome” is the wind at Obama’s back. It eroded confidence in Bush and laid the groundwork for Obama’s victory. Why reject a winning strategy?
It’s not like it’s not justified: there’s already plenty of reason to crank it up, from ACORN to the trashing of Palin’s family.
If being deranged is wrong, I don’t wanna be right.
And PJM continues the slide into meaninglessness…
strongly opposed Barack Obama for President. A person with his history and associations couldn’t make it through a background check to work in my local police department or airport.
Now this man will be privy to the most highly classified information used to protect our nation – a treasure trove for William Ayers.
I shudder.
That said, Barack Obama is going to be our President. I will not stoop to the same level of hatred many Democrats I know have had for President Bush since January of 2001. They were relentless in their animus and in their vitriol, doing everything possible to destroy Bush’s Presidency and his character for 8 years. They did more harm to America than they realize but they didn’t care.
I don’t believe that is the American way.
I will employ the wisdom of Ronald Reagan – “trust but verify” – and I wish President Obama good luck for if he does well, we will all be better for it.
No irrational rage here. The Republican Party got just what it deserved after an 8 year drunken spending spree. The final blow was the administration being asleep at the economic wheel for the last two years and letting the economy tank. But MoveOn and the DailyKos have shown the real way to be the “loyal opposition”. Lots of us are going to give Obama the same respect that they gave Bush.
Hope all you liberals are going to be paying lots of taxes because I am waiting for all the free stuff Obama promised me.
It will not be the conservatives who succumb to Obama derangement syndrome, but rather Obama’s Left/Liberal supporters who expected to be given handouts of free money, free university education, free health insurance, and basically a free ride and then find out that they have been sold a phony bill of goods.
Us conservatives, well, we will content ourselves with simply saying, “We told you so!”
By the way, the Barack Obama Presidency has me and many others worried sick, we all know it’s going to be bad, and just how bad only time will tell.
With the hatred and vitriol that has been freely flowing for the past years about Bush and his administration, I see no need to stop this action now; Just replace the names with Obama and his bums. After all, the media was so successful with its contrived “news”.
There’s reason to think the election was “stolen” by the Looney Liberals since ACORN was so involved and there was so much early election pandering.
I see no reason to stop spitting and peeing on all the presidents accomplishments. Consider it an art form that must be carried on.
BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) has been one of the biggest sources of shame in my lifetime.
Bill Clinton, in my humble opinion, deserved our contempt for his cleverness with the truth. His proven lies under oath before congress and the courts resulted in an impeachment trial, which sadly, was not upheld. He deserved to be sent packing. The single most contemptible thing ever uttered by a sitting President was to question the definition of the word; “is”. As if by clever lawyer-like wordsmith tactics he might justify a lie. I never cared that he had an affair with Monica, I cared that he dishonored his oath of office and broke faith with the people. He demonstrated over and over again that he lacked any sense of honor or personal integrity. Bill Clinton always put Bill Clinton first, never was there an indication that he put America first. The man is political hack and is beneath contempt. I think the same might be said for his politically ambitious wife.
George W. Bush, on the other hand, has shown truck loads of personal honor and integrity. He has faced the aftermath of 9-11-01, he has made decisions unimaginably by any previous President back to the time Harry S. Truman made the decision to drop the A-bomb on Japan, and all the while maintaining good faith with the American people and our troops afield. At the same time he has put up with the idiocy of a low-life congress, which has an approval rating of less than 13%, (lowest in history), suffered the slings and arrows of a hostile press, and has been the butt of every bad joke from any and all late night TV comedians, who, BTW, are not faced with any responsibility for their words and do not seemingly realize that this is the face of America most often seen overseas by our enemies. If we cannot respect our President, why should they? If I had been in “Dubya’s” shoes, I’d probably have had black helicopters and hit squads roaming the back alleys of Hollywood. Bill Maher would be at the top of that list, contemptible behavior deserves contempt.
And through all this, we have had a President which has stoically gone about the business of keeping the American homeland strong and safe from another terrorist attack on same the scale as 9-11. I believe America should strike down our foes decisively, do the job and get it over with. We need someone in the White House with the courage to smite our enemy hip and thigh, even to destroy the smallest village if necessary. If a billion Muslims in fifty countries have to die to preserve America, so be it. That’s the cost of waging war on America.
Now comes an election period when America needs a warrior leader more than ever. I thought I saw a glimmer of that warrior in John McCain. What did we get? We got Obama. He comes to center stage with grand promises and a shady history, nothing more than that. We got another appeaser. We got another spineless, wily, slick politician, and even worse, one with immense baggage and political debt to proven America haters. We got a man who has not once during the campaign shown us he has any moral conviction. He has shown us he is willing to disavow his friends and associates at the drop of a hat if it advances his political career.
To paraphrase Emma above: If “Obama Derangement Syndrome” is wrong, I don’t wanna be right.
I really don’t like to be told I’m supposed to hand over my wallet and not be angry about that.
He’s promised that will be his agenda.
Am I supposed to be broke first before I cry out?
Please. Sometimes the best defense is a good offense.
http://www.saraforamerica.com
The mass media won’t want to be scooped by Drudge like they were with Clinton Lewinsky. A hint of certain irregularities will emerge. One journalista will break ranks and then it will be a race to disassociate themselves from the Obama bubble that media executives have maintained around the chosen messiah. Then sit back and watch the media generate its own ODS.
I saw this video clip and immediately went to make sure all my guns are loaded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94N1TkuLWss
I will wait for the clarity of his, so far, unknown agenda becomes more apparent. As he said at his hysteric excuse me historic 1st press conference. I uhh err puppy duh hummm allergies ehh mumm uhh. Maybe this is secret code only dems understand. But Hey…time will tell HUH?
Great stuff, Neo. I used your column as a starting point for further ruminations on my blog:
Really hard for me to accept your advice…wait and see how deeply they will pick my pocket
I worked hard and saved excessively for 30 years to retire early – only to watch the DemonRats sharpen their knives to steal my pie:
http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=5081
Hard as it is, I’m hoping to be proven wrong. I hope President Obama pursues policies other than the ones he ran on in the primaries. He can use his honeymoon to convert headlong retreat in Iraq into a simple continuation of the drawdowns already envisioned. NAFTA will stay. Talks with Iran will not happen. At some point, even President Obama will face the simple arithmetic that he’s promised a trillion in spending and instead inherited near trillion-dollar annual deficits. Clinton had a booming economy to mask his inadequacies. “The/that One” will not.
Interesting to see if his cult can stay intact when reality bites. His promises will be unkept. Many of his supporters didn’t know his positions anyway. If they did, they didn’t care when he flipped them 180 degrees from the primaries to the general election (NAFTA, FISA, taxes, Iraq).
For the middle-of-the-road voters, there will be buyer’s remorse. Lots of folks assumed “Change” would be good because what we have now is viewed as “bad”. They may find change can also be “worse”.
We’ve seen several bubbles burst in the last 10-15 years.
The first was masked by economic growth. The “middle man” bubble died with the growth of the internet. Companies could deal directly with consumers, elminating anyone in the chain that didn’t add value.
Next was the dot.com bubble.
Then housing prices.
Now credit, xx to 1 leverage.
Next will be “The Consumer” bubble. Our economy has been propped up by people living beyond their means. Think big screen TVs bought with credit cards that never get paid off. That’s dying now. Would have been nice to have it happen gradually but instead it will be quick and painful. The media may help here. With Obama as President, suddenly any good news will leap to the fore. Consumers may start to feel better even as the underlying data get worse.
There will be on bubble left. One other place where the numbers have remained unsustainable for so long that their sudden collapse is inevitable. Government spending. The last refuge of irrationality. The belief that there is such a thing as “government money”.
Obama will make many mistakes and be unable to control the evil doers in his party. He will develop a very thin skin and silence/attack those he thinks are criticizing him.
We must now establish the mechanisms to maintain pressure and point out his failings, the media won’t.
What are the sites on the American side that are most like HuffingtonPost, DemocratUnderground and the DailyKos on the unAmerican side? I want to start reading them and, maybe, posting to them.
#12 Sara
Obama is different. When a man is so intent on portraying himself as self-deprecating (as in: “I’m a mutt”) but his actions say otherwise; when a man takes the seal of the Office of President and puts his name on it (When I heard the I’m a mutt comment) My first thoughts were of several books I have read about Stalin, Hitler and Hussein. All were physically and sexually abused.
If you read the history of Obamas drunken uncle whom he spent many years with,
and the uncle that wrote pornographic books you catch my drift.
But I hope we get the abused child that loves his new American family and tries to save it, not the anger of the abused child that tries to destroy his country.
Good grief neo,
You forget the desire for revenge.
Perhaps it would be helpful to consider applying Natan Sharansky’s 3D test (initially to be used for distinguishing legitimate criticism of Israel from anti-Semitism) : demonization, double standards, and delegitimization.
Indeed, BDS sufferers fail the test. Let’s not lower ourselves to such levels.
John B
“do not seemingly realize that this is the face of America most often seen overseas by our enemies.”
And our friends too!
Good article, good advice.
Too bad most people will ignore it.
The political divide in this country, the demonization of the other side, is not the fault of only one side.
Both the left and the right do this. I’d like to think that our side is better than theirs, but you know what, it’s not.
That makes me sad.
17 JohnGault
Democrats in the U.S. House have been conducting hearings on proposals to confiscate workers’ personal retirement accounts — including 401(k)s and IRAs — and convert them to accounts managed by the Social Security Administration.
Un freaking believable.
We sweat, strive and save for retirement (401ks) and it still winds up in Social Security. If you live until retirement and die as some of my friends have done, your daughters, sons or other family members that you would have loved to keep in your will/leave your inheritance to, will lose everything to those that didn’t work for it.
Thank you democrats, Lyndon Johnson (great society, medicaid, Medicare) FDR (social security) your socialism is coming full circle.
The upper echelons of power will enjoy the creme,
we piss ons will be left with the crumbs.
Tito the builder was right on.
I’ve gotta confess, I’m really sorry, but when BO held his news conference behind the podium with the “Office of the President Elect” sign on it just before I burst out laughing I did feel just a slight, mind you very slight, bit of ODS. Then I realized how much fun I’m going to have poking fun at this empty suit and all his handlers in the media.
The naivity of this approach boggles my mind. Ranks right up there with Obama thinking that our enemies will like us if we just play nice. Taking the high road only positions yourself to be more easily kneecapped by the Left.
If indeed Obama governs from the center vice the far left his base supported him on I will be more than happy to say I was wrong about him. But I fail to understand the logic of sitting back quietly and giving him respect until he has earned it.
But don’t expect 8 years of disrespect to be brushed aside as if it doesn’t matter. Pres Bush was ill treated for the majority of his administration – and is still treated by the Left with disdain and disrespect. The Left can’t suddenly decide that lack of unity hurts us all and think the Republicans should link hands with them and drink the punch.
The key word in all of this is “derangement”. Are those of us who reject the avowed policies and underlying assumptions of Obama and the Left deranged?
But I’ve already decided to “wait and see”, even though I have no doubt that things are going to get very bad. It’s somewhat like seeing the water at the beach suddenly run out to sea. Those very few in Indonesia who remembered their oral history knew that it was time to run for the high ground; the majority ventured down further towards the beach. Many of us have made our predictions and tried to warn others of an impending disaster. If we’re wrong, well and good, but if not, now we have a brief time to prepare for what we think is coming and to enjoy what may be the last relatively quiet few months we have left. Later we’ll have time enough for anger and agonizing over real problems, but now we should quietly prepare as best we can and try to enjoy life to the fullest.
Germany 1933:
Jew 1: I kinda fear this Hitler guy that just got elected.
Jew 2: You have Hitler Derangement Syndrome. Don’t get too upset. Just wait a while and see what he does. Let’s reach out to Hitler and see what happens. I’m sure it will all be just fine.
Bush managed to alienate his natural enemies by actually fighting against terrorists and his natural allies by botching the job fir the first 3 or 4 years , allowing the Iranians and Syrians to smuggle arms and men to kill our boys in Iraq, spending too much money and allowing congressional republicans to get sloppy. So he ignited those prone to BDS and disenchanted those who should have defended him.
And while I agree the BDS helped defeat the republicans and McCain it had its basis in many failures. As Obama moves the nation towards socialism and new terrorists strikes within the US, we need to hammer on those failed policies, not the man. I think in the end going for substance over things like Jeremiah Wright (as valid as he may be)will be most productive. In the beginning there will be a natural tendency for Obama and the MSM to blame everything on Bush and this we need to diffuse effectively.
In the end, though, does it really matter? The media will play up all real and imaginary instances of ODS (such as the “kill him!” non-happening at that Palin rally), therefore again demonizing everyone who wears an R or C on their chest. Really, a five year-old could predict the headlines that will be rampant throughout our country’s newspapers, and the BREAKING NEWS! bulletins that will be blaring on our television screens.
It isn’t ODS, it’s a visceral understanding of who and what Obama is, and what he and whoever pulls his strings have in store for the US. We must be just as outspoken, even to the point of being as vulgar and violent as the left or else we will simply be ignored and laughed at.
The left does not respect the right. They wake up every morning will the singular goal of crapping all over us because we take it. The only thing that will get their attention is fear of the right becoming as unhinged as the left.
The one thing the right will do is have discussion, but when it becomes apparent they aren’t listening, or won’t discuss, then we must be prepared to attack.
I for one would LOVE to be “surrounded by Star Trekian Spocks” if the alternative is — and it clearly IS — to be surrounded by brainless racists who voted their hearts over their brains.
Sheesh, you sound like my mother: “Now, now, what would the world be like if everyone was just like you?”
“Much better, actually,” I replied.
She only asked that once.
IMPORTANT ELECTION REFLECTIONS
These are the results of this election that need to be noted and remembered:
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/interesting-ele ction-reflections.html
Oh I get it….so if we all leave Obama alone and don’t follow the disgusting example of the Kos idiots and Huffpo rats then the next Republican administration will be given an easier ride by the left?
Really?
I don’t think so. These nasty little lefties made their bed and will now have to lie in it. Let the ODS begin!!!
“But I’ve already decided to “wait and see”
That is foolish. There is only one thing that I owe Barack Obama: I will never lie about him. This is the number one difference between me and the Daily Kos type of people. Nonetheless, we should constantly scrutinize Obama and criticize his errors. We must also demand that the U.S. Justice Department investigate his campaign for fraud. It is abundantly clear that top people within the Obama campaign, perhaps even the candidate himself, ordered the disabling of the software that would have prevented illegal contributions. Indeed, there is a good possibility that the newly elected president should be going to prison.
“After all, they had an MSM whipping them up into a frenzy twenty-four hours a day.”
And we’ll have an MSM trying to cover for the affirmative action hire they just crammed down our throats 24 hours a day.
I agree that ODS must be avoided but it’s not to early to start protesting an Obama administration and the plans he has for it. There’s plenty of evidence to use for this, including his own bill the “Global Poverty Act” which will tie US taxation to UN demands- and it’s projected to cost billions of dollars.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28951_Obamas_Global_Tax&only
Not to mention the policies he’s stipulated he intended to carry out- among them a permanent “Assault Weapons” Ban.
http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2008/11/changegov.html
Then there’s the incredible secrecy surrounding his transition team-
“There are some people who have been with us from the beginning who are clearly political liabilities or who won’t be able to qualify for a job, say, because they can’t get a security clearance,” says another aide, who was unaware of the unique Obama transition project’s tax status.
http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/11/07/the-secrecy-of-obamas-transition-team/
There’s no need to resort to the “ChimpyHitlerHalliburton” nonsense of the Left when we can- perfectly reasonably- be outraged by Obama’s long association with a man who declared war on America and who discussed the genocide of 25 million Americans.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/eyewitness-to-the-ayers-revolution/
I’ve read a lot of posts lately warning conservatives not to submit to ODS, some even going to far as to declare Obama- who has lied, cheated (his campaign donations) and involved himself with racists (Wright) and terrorists (Ayers and PLO-spokesman Khalidi)- a good and decent man. I personally disagree. He may be President-Elect but that does not, in my eyes, wipe clean the slate of his past.
The big difference between conservatives and liberals is that the latter camp have not only ridiculed and insulted the President for the past eight years, they have done the same to their country. Conservatives recognise the difference between the man holding the office and their nation. See all the stories about liberals, for the first time, flying the Stars and Stripes. Furthermore, we’ve heard endless stories and rants about Bush’s intention to establish re-education camps, install a Christian theocracy, etc, etc, etc. That would be the derangement part- it’s an unfounded, paranoid hatred of Bush.
On the other hand, the criticism on the right regarding Obama is, from what I’ve seen on blogs, based entirely on his avowed intentions and his factually established history. We don’t need to imagine an Obama presidency weakening the Constitution because he has stated in public that he intends to promote judges to the Supreme Court who will rule not on the Constitution but on their own, personal sense of fairness.
http://volokh.com/posts/1204053060.shtml
If the right does start to get a little deranged, I’m sure that there will be a good number of blogs- just like this one- who will point out that fact. Until that starts to happen however I’d appreciate it if some members of the conservative blogosphere stopped yelling at people (who thus far have couched their opposition to Obama in terms of his own plans for America rather than “that guy’s a jerk”) and accusing them of being unreasonable crazies.
I’d suggest Obama Truth Syndrome (OTS). If it’s the truth, it’s not deranged. If we can summon the discipline to rapidly separate truth from deranged, paranoid lies, we can beat Obama in 2012.
“We must be just as outspoken, even to the point of being as vulgar and violent as the left or else we will simply be ignored and laughed at.”
The truth shall set us free. We must evolve our strategy and tactics beyond what we’ve employed before and certainly well beyond what the left has employed against us. If we stoop to becoming a red version of the left by resorting to blubbering, screeching, deranged speech we will lose not only ensuing elections, but our soul as well.
We must discover and elucidate the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And we must do so with aggressively with an unwavering passion and cold certainty that can not be stopped.
I firmly believe the truth about Obama will set us free, but if that truth is surrounded by deranged rantings about birth certificates and such, the conservative movement will suffer a slow, painful death by suicide.
There is no question, we can win. But we can not win by sacrificing our soul. We must be forcefully, unmistakably all about the truth.
You really want to have some idea how obamabo is going
to operate, Go back and get out the history of the rise
of Hitler and the Third Reich.
This clown is a meglomainiac, and suffer from delusions
of grandeur, Same as good ol Adolph Hitler.
Hitler’s brown shirts, are now acorn. The obamabo youth
corps will follow the Hitler Youth model, or the Young
Pioneers of the Soviet Union.
The proposed civilian security force obamabo is
proposing, follows the pattern of the German Gestapo, or
the Soviet Union’s “KGB”
Both Hitler and Joseph Stalin were Socialists to start
with, all came to power during economic hard times in
their respective countries, and both subjected their
countrymen to servitude and basically slavery
to their governments. Both followed the doctrine of
Karl Marx, as Does obamabo.
All three of these abaorations have promised the great golden platter and greatness to their citizen subjects,
and the two from the past, have wound up enslaving and
murdering their own citizens………………………
We can wait and see, but do your homework, and prepare
yourself, Your family, and your friends.
History has this bad habit repeating itself when people
forget to learn about and understand the past, and the
mistakes of past mankind.
Da Viking
“If it’s the truth, it’s not deranged.”
We are obviously on the same page. Those who want to charge Barack Obama with being a secret Muslim terrorist must be shunned. Weak theories claiming that the Anointed One is not an American citizen should also be ignored. We must be very cautious with our rhetoric. If anything, we should opt for understatement.
“I’ve read a lot of posts lately warning conservatives not to submit to ODS, some even going to far as to declare Obama- who has lied, cheated (his campaign donations) and involved himself with racists (Wright) and terrorists (Ayers and PLO-spokesman Khalidi)- a good and decent man. I personally disagree. He may be President-Elect but that does not, in my eyes, wipe clean the slate of his past.”
You and I are also on the same page. Every single charge you make is well documented! You are not even slightly exaggerating. Tough—but fair must be our motto.
The matter of ODS, or Obama Derangement Syndrome is very serious and if not treated accordingly in its early stages it will advance into full blown OT, or Obama Trauma. OT if not treated will advance into HT, or Higher Taxes, OOB, or Out of Business, UE, or Unemployment. Open your eyes America….Going Galt…
‘“Bush Derangement Syndrome” is the wind at Obama’s back. It eroded confidence in Bush and laid the groundwork for Obama’s victory. Why reject a winning strategy?’
Sadly, I have to agree with this assessment. I believe BDS started in the blogosphere – especially at the Daily Kos – as a part of a deliberate propaganda campaign. No lie, exaggeration, or conspiracy theory was too vile or too unbelievable to be broadcast in the name of “passion” and “speaking truth to power.” The fact is, the nutroots wanted to win and had no compunctions about playing fair or being rational. Again, sadly, I’m not sure the Republicans can win now without employing the same tactics themselves. The rules have changed. Ugly and irrational (or, in the leftists’ words, “passionate”) is the order of the day. I guess we’ll just have to adapt.
The interesting thing is, after engaging in eight years of scurrilous attacks and irrationality, the Democrats are now pleading for calm, working together for the good of the country, etc. This serves to make the Democrats – formerly the foaming-at-the-mouth party – appear reasonable and rational. And now, of course, any Republican who takes a page from the Dems’ playbook and employs the same kind of vile rhetoric can be attacked as a hater, a racist, a mean old conservative, or whatever. Evidently, the hypocricy is lost on them.
The only escape I can see from all this is if one administration or another fails miserably and people get the idea that “passion” is not enough.
John B writes:
“BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) has been one of the biggest sources of shame in my lifetime.
..etc.”
John, we must have been separated at birth. These are some of the nicest, most cogently written words on the phenomenon known as BDS (and its attendant unreasonableness) I have seen. I wholeheartedly with your well-crafted sentiments.
Repubs are such vile killjoy losers.
The most important thing about BDS is that it worked. Along with campaign finance fraud, personal destruction of your opponents and vote fraud, it’s completely turned around the Dems in just 4 years.
Do you really want to put away the most effective political weapons yet discovered?
“Repubs are such vile killjoy losers.”
What a perfect validation the point I made in the third paragraph of my previous comment. Now that things are going their way, the Dems are all peace and reason and anyone who disagrees is “vile.” Who were the “vile, killjoy losers” in 2000 and 2004? Kochevnik – such a hypocrite.
I’m giving Obama a chance. His party – well, I don’t trust people who behave they way they have for the last eight years.
“Do you really want to put away the most effective political weapons yet discovered?”
Yup, I most certainly do! We must categorically reject BDS style tactics. I have no interest whatsoever in employing lies and the end justifies any means mindset to achieve results. Such a course of action will ultimately destroy society. I will only tell the truth about Barack Obama. Dr. Dean is right: we should only engage in “Obama Truth Syndrome (OTS).”
That is ridiculous advice…heck it is suicidal advice.
The Left is at war with us. The left acknowledges NO rules. The left breaks all the rules and then dares you to call them on it. And YOU want us to obey rules? We need to get rid of everyone on our side obsessed with rules. We need to win. We use the lefts tactics against them.
Malone: You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That’s* the *Chicago* way! And that’s how you get Capone. Now do you want to do that? Are you ready to do that? I’m offering you a deal. Do you want this deal?
The left puts up a candidate who is so outrageous we look crazy for calling him on it. In response to this absolutely crazy candidate we put a candidate whose idea of honor is that HIS honor trumps the well being of this country. We put a person in front of us to defend us against this Obama character and McCain decides that HIS FREAKING PERSONAL HONOR is more important than winning…and then he defines defending his honor to mean not attacking his opponents weak points…as if losing is a value.
No do not give me any more crap about HONOR and such…now it is war. These schmucks lied about every single thing regarding Obama. Every single utterance out of his mouth was a lie. Every single tactic used during the election was a fraud.
He is not my President. He wants my money gained from MY SWEAT to buy him votes, he wants my guns, he wants wants wants wants…well I have two words for him.
Molon Labe
With the tentacles of Soros’ Media Matters organization, I do not expect a lot of proper due diligence from the Big Media and major newspapers. Once we see the “Fairness” Doctrine rolled out, we’ll know the honeymoon is over. The Left came to the fight with brass knuckles and have been flogging us for many years. We’re beaten to a bloody pulp by these people. They control the educational system and the universities. They have most of the legal profession on their side. The judicial in all of its branches are controlled by them.
They utterly and viciously savaged a good and decent man who had to endure treason within the government. They did this non-stop for eight years. The cost in blood and treasure for aiding our enemies and buttressing the enemy’s morale is staggering. It has done inestimable harm to the nation and to our nation’s allies.
And we are expected to come to this fight with padded gloves, when the other side wields a battle axe?
Well, we won’t resort to confabulation or any kind of derangement syndrome. I am holding my breath, hoping that the damage to the nation is not severe. Seeing the new stable of advisers being Carter and Clinton loser retreads offers no comfort at all. O.K., I’ll shut up, but if things get bad I won’t extend my natural forebearance for one moment longer.
Dear NeoNeoCon,
The Supreme Court decision was unanimous (even though the court was more liberal than now)for the rule of law. But, Move On helped us move along “nothing to see in his conduct”, it is all those trashy women’s fault.
It’s happening again with Palin. When do we fight and stop moving along ? BDS definitely helped the democrats. If McCain was elected they would accelerate their misrepresentation of him.
Please stand up.
After January 20, the loyal opposition should show the same devotion and respect towards Obama as was shown GWB by the MSM and the leftists.
BDS turned America’s left into kooks who cheered and said “I told you so” every time the US took a hit but swept any success under the rug. That’s the point of the article.
Obama has already sown the seeds of his own destruction by setting incredibly high expectations for his Presidency that can never be met, and he comes armed with a batch of foreign and economic policies designed to turn this country into the worst the UK and Europe has to offer. All we have to do is continue to hammer away the gap between what he promised and what he’s delivering and the effects of the individual policies that he’s putting in place.
One thing you have to be on guard about with ODS – Obama may well take a centrist path on many issues. That is *good* because it is an admission that far-left policies do not work, it keeps the country off the wrong path, and it fractures part of the Democratic coalition. When that happens, then is not the time to bash Obama, but to praise him on that issue and say “see? Even Obama knows this liberal nonsense doesn’t work.”
And what a willfully ignorant buffoon you are Bugs. I’m not a Democrat. Do you remember what they say about one who assumes? Well, the people have swallowed enough of your disgusting Roman Empire building. Bush is nothing but a retarded version of Caligula, and your banking Mafia overlords expunged you just as yesterday’s supper. You are a sheep that hands his wealth over to the Bank of England as taxes, then borrows your own $ back at interest to England.
>>“Repubs are such vile killjoy losers.”
>What a perfect validation the point I made in the >third paragraph of my previous comment. Now that
>things are going their way, the Dems are all peace
>and reason and anyone who disagrees is “vile.” Who
>were the “vile, killjoy losers” in 2000 and 2004?
>Kochevnik – such a hypocrite.
>I’m giving Obama a chance. His party – well, I don’t
>trust people who behave they way they have for the
>last eight years.
Why Obama is here and what he’s going to do …
http://patdollard.com/2008/10/theyre-here-yuri-bezmenov-in-1985-communist-brain-washing
BY APPOINTING THE CORRUPT RAHM AND HINTING HE WILL REVERSE OUR COURSE – AND KOWTOW TO PUTIN – ON MISSILE DEFENSE OBAMA HAS ALREADY PROVEN WHO HE IS.
WHY WAIT!?!? TO PROVE WE’RE BETTER THAN THE LOONY LEFT AS WHILE OBAMA GETS A FREE RIDE.
IT MAKES NO SENSE.
The liberals are tongue-nathing each other these days, and I actually saw Michael Moore on Larry King striking a sanctimonious conciliatory tone, admonishing his tolerant fellow-travellers to avoid the hatred of the right, and remember that we all are Americans. No matter how civil the right is, the left will take credit fro setting a caring tone.
I could retch. Or punch a Democrat.
Goodness. The comments seem to be running strongly in favor of derangement. And some commenters don’t seem to be aware of Godwin’s Law.
I voted for McCain, but as of January 20 Obama will be the only President we have. Can’t we at least err on the side of treating him with respect?
RAHM is Roman Catholic, controlled by Rome and funded by the Bank of England. makes perfect sense. What makes no sense are sheeple lost in the vortex of the Republican/Democrat dialectic: deliberately constructed to yield a synthesis desired by the true rulers of this world.
BB:
Quite right.
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None of you needed Obama to become deranaged. You were dranged people looking for a reason
Wait, I thought Rahm Israel Emmanuel was Jewish and had dual citizenship with Israel.
I can’t help thinking that the reality is that after the Democrat inspired and carefully crafted Wall Street/Fannie/Freddie meltdown, John McCain didn’t want any part of being President. I think he was smart to throw the election to Obama.
It couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
Next we need to hold a contest for determining which is the most racist city in America. Right now I’m undecided,,, hummmm it’s either Chicago or Philly, a real toss up… You decide.
There is a big difference between derangement and opposition…
Not Ready To Make Nice
Big Dog
Kirk Petersen:- any inclination I might have had of treating Obama with respect has been quickly snuffed out due to the behavior of his supporters.
John B:
..Это – мое удовольствие.
Robert Hurley:
..Вы – инструмент.
Ah, I see the truly deranged have affixed their comments above this one, by projecting on to us the vile madness they have perfected. They expect us to forgive and forget? They should settle for the cool forebearance that most, including myself, advocate. We don’t have to kiss and make up and I, for one, do not want to.
If this nation is to be torn apart, it is not the conservative protectors of the Constitution, but rather the statist collectivists who wish to “reinterpret” that document and treat it as an artifact of a time that we are supposed to have surpassed.
These moral reprobates like “kochevnik” and “Robert Hurley” contaminate this discussion with their mockery and hauteur, when all the while they share a political madness that destroyed an American president and contributed to the deaths of thousands of American servicemen and Iraqis. For giving aid and comfort to the enemy, such as these HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS.
God damn them all.
Can’t we at least err on the side of treating him with respect?
While he shows contempt for our election laws, while he shows contempt for his own word, while he lies about his ties to Ayers, Wright, Pflegar, Rezko, Khalidi, and Odingo? I think not. I think we have played patsy cake long enough with this invention. The press gave him his honeymoon…its over now.
He is not my President. He is an invention of the left. That he played patsy cake with a terrorist whose organization planned on the murder of millions in re-education camps is all I need to know about that punk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
So what’s the appropriate reaction when your country will now be run by someone thoroughly steeped in Marxism to the degree where he couldn’t bring himself to salute the flag? Should we don the mantle of guilt? Accept The Fairness Doctrine? Applaud the MSM? Ignore voter fraud and intimidation? Please. Anger is the proper response for many of us now, righteous rage to see what will happen is going to motivate and mobilize our resistance, our desire to save the country. For anyone who thinks these emotions are too raw and too primitive, that’s sad for you.
Oh we’re not gonna take it
No, we ain’t gonna take it
Oh we’re not gonna take it anymore
We’ve got the right to choose it
There ain’t no way we’ll lost it
This is our life, this is our song
We’ll fight the powers that be just
Don’t pick our destiny ’cause
You don’t know us, you don’t belong
Oh we’re not gonna take it
No, we ain’t gonna take it
Oh we’re not gonna take it anymore
Oh you’re so condescending
Your gall is neverending
We don’t want nothin’, not a thing from you
Your life is trite and jaded
Boring and obfuscated
If that’s your best, your best won’t do
- Twisted Sister, “We’re not goiing to take it!”
Among acquaintances and even relatives (my own and in-laws) I have had to bite my tongue and keep silence as I have been lectured to, baited, and mocked as they pontificated about President Bush’s alleged criminality and the saintliness of The Anointed. Of his “hope and change” (socialism, appeasement, and pacifism) I am supposed to be impressed by, and if I disagree with these true believers I know I will only be harangued even more intensely. So, like many of us here I have chosen to suffer it all for the sake of keeping peace in the gathering.
The abuse many of us have taken, while unpleasant, pales in comparison to the insult and mockery these wastes of human protoplasm have heaped upon the President and his armed forces in harm’s way.
I’m tired of the Left’s didacticism. I want no more of it. What makes it even more bitter to have to endure it is the fact that I used to be a Marxist over twenty years ago. If I dare to point out the gaping epistemological lacunae in their “critical theory” – which I have gone far more deeply into when I was an academic Marxist, all I get are blank stares and mocking grins.
I don’t have to suffer these people like a saint. I will criticize their leaders, their policies, and the results in fair and biting fashion. I won’t sink into the same kind of miasma they inhabited for at least the past eight years. I just won’t consent to consuming fecal matter and grinning about it.
No president is more leftist that Bush ever in US history. A $12trillion failed war, a US economy he destroyed and corporate welfare with a $5trillion line of credit for all large corporations and millionaires. Bush is right up there with Stalin and Che Guevara. You repubs should be proud.
The idea of some rapprochemente is nonsense. The article assumes that, because the election is over, that the war is, too. It is not. The left is continuing its assault. Their calls for peace and reason are only meant for the right to have to follow. They will continue to hurl their invective, all the while blaming the hate on the right.
However, we should strike back with measured tones. We should avoid the use of buzz phrases linked to Obama’s name, like Obamabot, Obamania, etc…. These phrases, however, true, make us look like the loons.
To the guy who claims that the calls for proof of Obama’s citizenship are just weak theories to be avoided is silly. All that is needed to disprove it is for some very simple evidence to be presented. This Obama has refused to do. This weak theory, if proven, would destroy Obama, more than anything else we might throw at him. It would also nuke the entrenched media. They could not dodge the blame for failing to expose this themselves. The Constitutional crisis to follow would shake the land. It would be THE game-changer.
I will however hold Obama accountable if he lies about something or does something that is unconstitutional.
If he tries to spread the wealth around, I will remind him of how the 13th amendment forbids involuntary servitude, which is exactly what taking my money and giving it to someone else would involve.
There is a rumor going around in intelligence circles that Obama has already made overtones to the leaders of China that he will not interfere if they try to take over Taiwan in 2009. If that is the case, and he did this while not doing this in conjunction with the Bush administration, Obama quite possibly could be found guilty of treason. Joe Biden may try to give BO a pass, but I won’t.
David Thompsen’s Rational critique is 100% correct. the lies and uncorroborated assertions used against Obama helped, not hurt him.
i am retired, i owned an ad agency that only handled auto dealers. i refused to ever air anything that was not 100% true and verifiable. i counseled clients that if they aired a single lie, nothing else they ever said would be believed. without belief, successful advertising was not possible. my clients were successful, i retired at 47.
because we were concerned about barry’s supposed muslim connections etc were were unheard when we told the truth that barry is lying about his tax plan. taxes will go up for many that make much less than 250k per yr, but no one listened because their ears were hardened by our earlier exaggerations and lies.
so now i, a retired person living 100% on cap gains, will have my taxes more than doubled beginning at dollar 1.
the point is, there are sufficient true reasons to reject this lying puke. our rage made us exaggerate, therefore our rage was dysfunctional.
being coldly rational in our assault is to be done because it works. rage is for the deranged.
“No president is more leftist that Bush ever in US history.” shibboleth posted by our Russian interlocutor “kochevnik
Still bitter, eh russky, about our deposing your tyrannical ally in the Middle East, Saddam? Oh, and by the way we know all about the Spetznaz groups that went into Iraq before the invasion to remove all the evidence of Russian contributions to the WMD programs. You removed the components to Syria and Lebanon.
How are those oil prices now working out for ya, eh russky?
Way to dodge the question, Fred. It must hurt knowing your own countrymen have abandoned you, leaving you and your imperialist empire building fascist wetdream not merely in the dust, but in the dustbin.
Whatever. It’s easy for you to say “wait and see.” You live in New England. Try living in New York and taking public transport to work every day.
Neo, you disappoint. You sight the drivel of one of your commenters –”I’m so relieved. There’s something so distorting about these political obsessions. Our private loves and our work are so much more important,” and then ascribe to that head-in-the-sand, peace-in-our-time drivel as your own.
Let me give you a primer: The hard left will be taking power, the hard left is going to push hard left. –There, that wasn’t so hard. There is no need for anybody to “wait”, we all know what’s going to happen. They’ll either be clever, each step a small step and “reasonable”, or they’ll push fast. I really don’t know if it makes any difference, I don’t know if there will be enough good men to resist. I suppose the only good thing is that if they push fast you won’t have to wait so long.
Pierre Legrand. McCain’s “…idea of honor is that HIS honor trumps the well being of this country.” Absolutely true. I immensely admire the man but his concept of personal honor was not large enough for our time. It’s as if he died with his gun in his hostler, satisfied that he didn’t draw first, and now all those behind him whom he should have protected are available for slaughter.
A number of nicely angry posts on this thread. Anger is the first element of vigilance.
kochevnik,
Don’t you have better things to do over there in Russia besides enter American blogs and function as an irrelevant pest? And why are you so involved in a topic like this? After all, Russia pretty much got the result it wanted in our election. You now have a POTUS who will never stand up to Russia or your ally Iran. As far as I can see, you have nothing to complain about now. What’s more, the new POTUS has vowed that he will end ballistic missile defense, which was the concept (and now is a reality) that pretty much undid the Soviet Union. Gorbachev must be very upset with himself: he must be thinking that the Leftists have taken over the U.S. and only if he could have hung on a little longer… the Communists have at last succeeded in my country.
You should be elated about that, kochevnik.
I’m not singing. I’m not dancing or holding hands.
I have no problems saying, “He’s not MY presidnt, he’s THE president.” If that’s ODS so be it.
We lost because we’ve not fought for our people and beliefs for far too long. It might be too late to turn things around now. If we ever want to have an actual say in things we’d better stop trying to “get along” and realize we have to fight for what we believe in.
Well folks ,what we need to do is “hate” smart!
Every time that the left gets some stupid plan of theirs up for a vote we do like what happened with the immigration reform bill and the bailout. We call and complain to all of the congresspersons until they do not want to hear any more. We call,email,and talk to everyone we know about why what they are doing is wrong for the country,and make sure they call and complain to their congressperson also.
Let’s fight them every step of the way!
We do not have to call anyone a liar,just point out continously where they are wrong,on each and every item.
I am personally going to make each of my Senators and Representatives hate the sound of my name!
And I am counting on each and every one of the rightwing blogs to keep me informed as to what these jack*sses are up to!
I guess the Conservatives now forget that this all started with CDS during the Clinton administration. The tearing down of civil discourse happened long before W took office. Hopefully we won’t continue the last 16 years of animosity, but from the above posts it seems unlikely.
“I will however hold Obama accountable if he lies about something or does something that is unconstitutional.
If he tries to spread the wealth around, I will remind him of how the 13th amendment forbids involuntary servitude, which is exactly what taking my money and giving it to someone else would involve.”
So why haven’t you been protesting about this ‘spreading the wealth’ under all the other presidents who have enforced a progressive taxation system?
Have you only just noticed that people with higher incomes pay more tax?? What have you been doing all these years?
fred,
You are lost the the MSM spin of left/right. Look at your own body. Are you going to get along well without your left side? It’s funny how the bankers bought your media companies and have turned your brain to jello in the last century.
Russia is held in contempt because we don’t pay tribute to the Bank of England. You are programmed as a dumb robot to hate Islam because it forbids usury, which is central to fractional reserve banking. The banksters can’t control the middle east or Russia. Instead we are carving up Montenegro in partnership with the Rothschilds directly. Meanwhile you pay all your wealth to them, then borrow your $ back at interest. That’s why you are going down the tubes. Also Russians are survivors and can subsist on mere bartering. Americans are too self-centered and will probably destroy themselves under similar circumstances.
It’s funny how you utterly mired in the left/right dialectic. “Any creature slave to a single idea is stupid”, to paraphrase Peter Pan. You couldn’t get out the front door every morning without reconsiling these possibilities, yet you throw a fit when you see others doing the same.
>Don’t you have better things to do over there in
>Russia besides enter American blogs and function as
>an irrelevant pest? And why are you so involved in a
>topic like this? After all, Russia pretty much got
>the result it wanted in our election. You now have a >POTUS who will never stand up to Russia or your ally
>Iran. As far as I can see, you have nothing to
>complain about now. What’s more, the new POTUS has
>vowed that he will end ballistic missile defense,
>which was the concept (and now is a reality) that >pretty much undid the Soviet Union. Gorbachev must be
>very upset with himself: he must be thinking that the
>Leftists have taken over the U.S. and only if he
>could have hung on a little longer… the Communists
>have at last succeeded in my country.
>You should be elated about that, kochevnik.
What’s the difference between open unconditional discussions with Amadinejad and the Democrat Party? We’re fools to think we’ll get any respect from either one!
CMac writes:
“I guess the Conservatives now forget that this all started with CDS during the Clinton administration. The tearing down of civil discourse happened long before W took office. Hopefully we won’t continue the last 16 years of animosity, but from the above posts it seems unlikely.”
I’ll see your CDS and raise you a QDS, an RDS, and an NDS. (Quayle Derangement Syndrome, Reagan Derangement Syndrome, and Nixon Derangement Syndrome.) Hell, I can remember visiting my friend’s family (a Hollywood writer for “The Untouchables”) during 1964 election eve and having those liberal Democrats fulminating about what a horrid, despicable person Senator Barry Goldwater was.
Sh*t howdy, old son, if you go far back enough into history, there was I guess, LDS (Lincoln Derangement Syndrome, not Romney’s church) by the slave-owning South.
..and you want to talk about “the above posts”, why don’t you toddle on over to KOS or the terminally menopausal HuffPo or some other unhinged lefty loon site and see how the subject of BDS, PDS, McDS is addressed. Oh, and if you’re ever in L.A., take a ride over to that gay couple’s place in West Hollywood and ask them why they hanged Sara Palin in effigy. Oh, wait, you won’t be able to meet them because they’re out at the week-long demonstrations spreading their love and respect for all of us who voted for proposition 8.
Hallowe’en decoration, my conservative ass!
I’ll respect Obama and his administration as soon as I get a personalized invitation from Jeremiah Wright to attend his church as a middle class white man.
Cybergeezer,
You Americans stabbed Mossadeq in the back so you could steal Iran Oil. You then named it BP. Your CIA sprayed Iranians with gunfire and blamed Mossadeq, overthrowing him. You then implanted the Shaw who was reviled in Iran but your puppet. Then Iran blewback with a fundamentalist government.
You are nothing but a backstabbing thief, earning your comeuppance.
We need to watch. But what should we watch for?
He will implement leftist social, economic, and military policies. He won the election. That’s it.
But will he use his control of congress to consolidate power? Will he attempt to eliminate any chance of losing congress, or the 2012 election?
Watch for these changes in the first 100 days, and fight them tooth and nail should they be attempted:
Stacking the Supreme Court
Tampering with the 2010 census
Eliminating the filibuster
Moving against the free press with the FEC, hate crime laws, or the fairness doctrine
Stealing Coleman’s senate seat
Yes, wait and see. But Republicans need to be prepared to fight to preserve our form of government.
There will be a blizzard of change next year. The pace will be frantic. We need to be ready to focus on preserving the way back.
All neo-neocon is saying is we need to avoid the same pitfalls the BDS sufferers fell into, namely: exaggerating the bad things (there are plenty of real ones), getting lost following red herrings, showing people that we would never give the other side a chance to do the right thing (not that we’re holding our breath), just because they are who they are. These things don’t help us; they just hurt us and what we’re trying to do.
We should everything the left hasn’t been: in tune with reality, focused on real issues, gracious even to those with whom we disagree, and, above all, confident in ourselves and our ideas, not desperate and shrill. These things are the key to long-term success.
We should everything the left hasn’t been: in tune with reality, focused on real issues, gracious even to those with whom we disagree, and, above all, confident in ourselves and our ideas, not desperate and shrill. These things are the key to long-term success.
The left is in power…they won using exactly those tactics. We lost because we had a clown at the top of the ticket whose personal honor trumped his duty to this country. Thank goodnees for Sarah or else this election would have been a terrible rout. Our candidate for President refused to attack because he didn’t want to sully his honor. Great the schmuck should have warned us that he wasn’t prepared to win.
Oh and to the RINO’s…well done. And that conservative compassion crap worked out as well. Now we are being left with increasingly worse choices…win against overwhelming odds using the proper channels, submit, or…what?
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Dear kochevnik;
You need a laxative.
kochevnik = troll = ignore.
MOLON LABE
BDS, as I understand it, was to blame Bush for everything that went wrong, exagerrating such, if something was going write, bury it and/or put a negative spin on it, and when neither was in existence, fill the silence with slogans about how Bush and Co are Nazis.
Avoiding this does NOT mean not critizing Obama and working hard for damage control over the next four years.
The only mistake McCain made (and Im not sure it could have been avoided) was to treat Obama with the kid gloves that no politician deserves to avoid the racism tag. In fact, we should work to eliminate this altogether. When the democrats and media try to paint criticism of Obama as racist, remind them of the their definition of it … one can only be racist if s/he has power.. and Obama has the power with a Democratic Congress.
No respect for the disgraceful.No truce to the thugs! No cooperation with neo-con collaborators.Organize,Resist, Defeat!
The problem with this approach for me is that I can’t just wait to react. I also have to make my best guess at predicting the future. I predict that the future is going to be very unfriendly to my business, so of course I’m not going to invest any further time or money or effort into it. My prediction will have to be proven wrong before I do. In the meantime, I won’t be creating any new jobs or economic activity.
I’m all for peace and harmony in the country and respect for the office of the presidency. That’s why I’m not so keen on accepting Obama quietly.
This election was a fraud. Obama is a fraud. We have a fraud in the presidency-elect and a klatch of thieves who aided and abetted him controlling Congress.
I have no choice but to watch this man choose a cabinet and govern, but I won’t be quiet about how he got there, I won’t be quiet about who he is, I won’t be quiet about his agenda – I won’t sit back like I’m John McCain or Hillary Clinton and go along to get along.
I’ll add that it’s not only our right but our duty to criticize every single move of Obama’s that we feel is wrong or ill-advised. Nor have I abandoned the idea that as President he (or Congress, with his approval) might make decisions that are actually dangerous to the country’s security, its liberty, or its economy.
But it is best for the nation and for us as individuals to not assume that will happen. Instead, we need to wait with cool heads and open minds to see what actually happens, and then respond to it. This doesn’t mean we shouldn’t prepare ourselves mentally and emotionally, as well as strategically, for that possibility.
Go to
marklevinshow.com
to hear Ronald Reagan’s “A Time for Choosing” and its relevance to today. (Audio worked better than video.) We need a voice this strong, this clear, to educate and ignite our citizenry to action.
This is the battle we must fight.
Is it just a coincidence that both Obama and Clinton present as raging narcissists who promote a leftist agenda and worldview? I don’t think so.
I have to disagree that there was ever any such thing as CDS. Certainly not in the same sense that Krauthammer ‘defined’ BDS. Clinton was a slick, manipulative liar, whose narcissism became more pronounced and apparent as his administration wore on. That behavior rightfully engendered resentment, distrust and disrespect among those who weren’t enamored of (and blinded by) his statist policies.
BDS, like Obama’s candidacy, was almost 100% a media creation, and reflects more the level of mendacity and agenda-driven “journalism” extant there than the reactive behavior of its audience, the voting public.
Almost all the comments posted here suggest this article is likely to be ignored. That is too bad, but mainly for the 30% of the country that shares these views.
If the right-wing really desires it’s devolution into sputtering, incoherent rage, be our guest!
Yes we did!
Jane (#65), there is plenty of bad behavior on both sides of the aisle.
#34 – David Thomson et al
Perhaps I wasn’t clear. My point was that rather than stand by the shore gazing at the horizon, wringing my hands, ranting at the expected ills of an Obama administration, and trying to predict whether the returning water would gently wet my feet or would be a three hundred foot high tsunami, it seems more prudent to prepare for the worst and head for the high ground. Along the way it would also be sensible to take in the beauty of the world and savor that while there was still time.
I think what is foolish is to imagine that the Anointed One will be caught in his lies and brought down by them – or to imagine that “the people” will quickly see through the charade and turn on Him. This is after all the country which elected Bill Clinton twice and continues to hold him in much higher regard than he deserves. And it is the country which elected George Bush twice, but now mostly hates everything associated with him. And it is the country whose best choices for the latest campaign were Hillary Clinton, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden, and John McCain. It is the country of “I support the troops, but I oppose the war.” And it is the country of “Hope and Change”.
Our country was founded not as a democracy, but as a constitutional republic. Two hundred years of constant effort by lawyers, politicians, and others has amended or bypassed the Constitution to turn the country into what amounts to a democracy. During Phillip of Macedon’s rise to power the Athenian Demosthenes said:
“Formerly when the people of Athens had the courage to act and to fight, they controlled the politicians. Now, on the contrary, the politicians hold the purse strings and manage everything, while you, the people, robbed of nerve and sinew, stripped of wealth and of allies, have sunk to level of lackeys and hangers-on, content if the politicians gratify you with a dole …., and your manliness reaches its climax when you add your thanks for what you own.”
Sounds like he could be speaking to the citizens of the United States. The Founders, unlike most of our current citizens, knew of the ills of democracies, and it wasn’t their intent to create another. Historically democracies have always failed. And our current form of government has become a democracy – and is failing. Once a country becomes a democracy it is ruled by the mob and those skillful enough to manipulate the mob’s emotions. While the mob may move in what you or I might consider a favorable direction for a brief period of time, it is still a mob and the only thing that is certain is uncertainty.
So while preparing for the worst, I will “wait and see”. I personally expect a tsunami much higher than three hundred feet, but I don’t wish to waste energy on ranting and raving and trying guess just how high it will be. Better to prepare and use the quiet time we have left for more pleasant thoughts. When things actually begin to happen in a few months (or possibly sooner), then there will be actual and ample things on which to focus our ranting and raving. But even then, the ranting and raving will be useless and pathetic if we still don’t have the will to actively resist. I wonder how many of us will rise to that challenge? Despite all our brave words, none of us will know until the time when we have to make that decision. And maybe we’ve already waited too long.
In one of the posts on his blog (http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/), Richard Fernandez observed that problems have a way of cascading and that “The coming years have the makings of a perfect storm”. Indeed.
And if you’re interested in apocalyptic futures, you might visit my web site http://www.stardrivenovel.com and download the free PDF of the first three chapters of my unpublished novel. Just skip the first two chapters and go directly to Chapter 3. It describes a very plausible scenario of what our future may hold, and all of the underlying assumptions are based on fact. The only fiction is possibly whether such a plan is actually in the works. And this scenario is not based on Obama or the jihadists but on events that occurred during our last flirtation with a “centrist” Democrat. (The moderator may wish to delete this self-serving paragraph, though it is relevant in that it may lead some readers to consider a larger and more dire threat than Obama and his policies).
Sarah Palin in a nutshell…
While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.
The old rancher said, ‘Well, ya know, Palin is a post turtle.’
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was.
The old rancher said, ‘When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a post turtle.’
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain. ‘You know she didn’t get up there by herself, she doesn’t belong up there, she doesn’t know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put her up there to begin with.
http://roadkillrefugee.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/sarah-palin-post-turtle/
ODS victims, conspiracy theorists and raving right-wingers,
Which is Obama REALLY: a Muslim Fundamentalist or a Marxist?
(tip: He can’t be both as they diametrically opposed ideologies)
regards
westlake
“You Americans stabbed Mossadeq in the back so you could steal Iran Oil. You then named it BP.”
You have to wonder why Americans would take the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company and rename it British Petroleum.
Well, I guess we do some pretty silly things from time to time.
“You then implanted the Shaw…”
Having an implanted shaw is pretty painful, or so I’ve heard.
The loony left never fails to amuse.
Bugs,
Ignorance is a Repub attribute?
“kochevnik = troll = ignore.”
Neo-Neocon is warning us against falling prey to
Obama derangement syndrome, and here are you guys diving into it head first. Sheesh! If you right-wingers are supposed to be so much more rational than the lefties, let’s see it. (Revenge may be sweet, I know [for Bush derangement syndrome], but two wrongs still don’t make a right.) By all means, be eternally vigilant, which Ben Franklin said is the price of liberty. Work with Obama when you can, criticize him when you can’t, filibuster when you feel you have to stop something especially pernicious. Fight with all your might for your ideas and do your best to persuade people rationally. But for Heaven’s sake, don’t go batshit insane on us! You’ll only give yourselves heart attacks, and you won’t help the country one bit.
#108:Dave – The loony left never fails to amuse.
It’s constant entertainment, isn’t it? Heaven forbid schools should actually start teaching some real history at some point. Think of all the laughs we’d miss out on!
Apparently kochevnik missed the lesson where they discussed how Mossadeq pushed for renegotiation (read: blackmail) with Britain (not the U.S.) on the two countries’ oil production agreement and ultimately the nationalization (read: theft) of the oil-producing infrastructure that had been built by the British (not the Persians). He accomplished this with lots of help (strikes, etc.) from the communist Tudeh Party. Mossadeq’s actions resulted in an oil embargo, pushing Iran’s economy into the toilet and creating the well-worn “crisis” that all despots rely upon to stir up public support for well-worn “emergency powers” (see also: “Change”).
After that Mossadeq dissolved the Iranian parliament, succeeded in eliminating Constitutionally guaranteed secret ballots, won the next election to PM by a 99.9% “majority” (see also: Hussein, Saddam), and seized control of the government. For his excesses, Mossadeq was formally – and Constitutionally – dismissed by the Shah who, himself, had to flee as a result.
The popular myth that the CIA rolled into Iran and overthrew a democratically-elected ruler who was just quietly minding his own business is one of the most idiotic historical revisions going. The conflict was between Iran and Britain, and ultimately caused by Iranian greed, not any involvement of the U.S.
MI-6 dragged the CIA into the mix by knowing which buttons to push in the 50s, i.e., the threat of communism in the oil-rich Middle East. It worked, and the (stupid) CIA has been popularly but erroneously blamed for Mossadeq’s “illegal” ouster ever since, despite only marginal involvement.
Ironically Mossadeq’s communist “reforms” were also partly responsible for ruining the country’s economy, ultimately causing even his supporters in the Tudeh Party (which relationship had sparked the interest of the CIA in the first place) to abandon him.
Most ironically, despite Mossadeq’s strong secular stance, he was (and still is) held up as the hero during the 1979 uprising by the religious whack-job fanatics who now control Iran.
I feel I am entitled to just a bit of ODS.
fred,
Thanks for clearing out Iraq for Iran. After a string of humiliating defeats, the US will finally abandon Iraq militarily. Then once the dust settles, the Iranian are in control of the whole region, and they didn’t have to fire a shot. You destroyed their old rival for them.
Russia can do fine without oil because Russians are survivors. As when the rouble collapsed in 1991 we simply reverted to barter. I doubt Americans could pass that test, after 200 years of greed and empire-building.
Anyway pack up and leave. You will do that anyway when the $13trillion bill arrives. Maybe Iran will send an eviction notice, just to make it all proper.
RADICAL POLITICIANS WILL DESTROY OBAMA
The far left in Congress is on track to ruin the Obama administration:
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2008/11/radical-politicians-will-destroy-obama.html