Australian Muslims Push for Islamic ‘Perspective’ in School Curriculum
Recently the Australian Curriculum Studies Association and the University of Melbourne’s Centre of Excellence for Islamic Studies issued a booklet, “Learning From One Another: Bringing Muslim Perspectives into Australian Schools,” which maintains that “every Australian school student would be taught positive aspects about Islam and Muslims — and that Australia is a racist country.”
Presumably every Australian child should be taught about the fabled past of Islam and imagine the worst of Australia in order to avoid the challenges Islam poses to this peacefully integrated nation.
The report contends that there is a “degree of prejudice and ignorance about Islam and Muslims,” conditions that Australian students should oppose as they embrace diversity as the standard of civic duty. Al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden are mentioned as famous names synonymous with traditional Islamic ideas, but there isn’t any reference to terrorism.
The truly remarkable dimension of this report is that a largely immigrant community, comprising a small minority, is demanding that classes be taught from its perspective rather than the perspective of the nation to which most chose to come. Australia is demonized as racist while the real challenges posed by Islam are overlooked. Moreover, it is precisely the communal values and institutions in Australia that made it a worthy destination for immigrants in the first place.
Most tellingly, Australia’s so called “racist impulses” were fomented by radical Islamists responsible for the death of 100 Australians in Bali and terrorist plots in Australia itself in which at least twenty people have been jailed.
According to the report, “most Muslims are outspoken in their criticism of terrorism regardless of the perpetrator. This is because Islam only allows for a just war. … From their perspective, the enemies of Islam are the terrorists and they are the warriors of the faith.” In addition, the authors of this booklet contend that “morally, Australia is not a good place to rear children,” citing as evidence drugs and illicit relations. They argue that these conditions militate against integration. It is also an argument employed for their own system of law, sharia.
What this adds up to is a minority intent on changing the environment in which it finds itself rather than seeking an accommodation with the prevailing norms. It seems to me the authors of the report have failed to address several obvious questions: If Australia is an undesirable place to raise children, why emigrate there in the first place? If sharia is the legal code you prefer, why not move to a nation where this code is in place? Why should the Australian school system comply with the requests of this Muslim minority?
It seems to me imprudent that the demands in the booklet are made at all. Suppose a Jewish minority in Iran argued that Talmudic law should be introduced across the board for this group. By any reasonable standard this request would be rejected. There simply is no reason for the Australian government to balkanize itself and, in the process, legitimate a minority hostile to law, custom, and tradition.
That integration of minorities may tolerate a degree of loyalty and affection for the “old country” is understandable. But there isn’t any justification for altering the school curriculum in the adopted nation. If anything is the case, Muslim students will be handicapped if, by virtue of a diversity standard, they learn about Islam but remain ignorant about the nation in which they reside.
Moreover, since Western nations have made an effort to welcome Islamic immigrants through programs that engender understanding, it seems to me reciprocity is warranted. But is it possible to promote women’s rights in Saudi Arabia? Or does the school curriculum in Pakistan include a history of constitutional provisions? Do Syrian schools incorporate the history of the Kurdish minority into their school curriculum?
What the Australian Muslim minority wants is what Australia can not grant: capitulation to a state within a state. A separate Muslim school system or one that emphasizes the unique aspects of Muslim life would be a first step toward the dissolution of Australia. No wonder there is pushback. Who would expect anything else?
Well,if they really do believe that OZ isn’t a fit place to raise children,they either ought to leave or they should be arrested for child abuse since they insist on sticking around anyway in spite of what they purport to believe about that
Exactly. Someone needs to teach these people that when you’re a guest in someones home, you don’t rearrange the furniture to your own liking.
Kind of a moot point. The whole point of islam is to subjugate and convert. They dont care about any beliefs that are different from theirs. no matter what they say. They are not to tolerate others on any meaningful level except when it serves to spread islam. they may work a bit with them, but if they do they believe they have the right to lie cheat or do whatever they want. Thats why I cannot figure out why people seem so hell bent on portraying muslims as the victims and a religion of peace when the evidence is overwhelming. you can use christian fanatics in the same breath at these people and sound sane, but thats what they try to do. we cannot use the same logic as we would a regualr fight. these peoples mentality have not changed in 1200 yrs, just the weapons. this is a war of ideas not tangeble items like property or supplies. this is about the unwavering belief that islam must rule you or destroy you. no inbetween. ISLAM means submission.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded
This is a must watch…
LOL. Moving furniture is figurative, genius.
While some of what you say is true, why don’t Muslims just come out with the truth then? They have to demonize OZ so that when they move to force sharia on everyone it seems acceptable.
I don’t think Robbins’ or H-Town’s points are moot at all! Islamists “logic” is not logical: “I immigrated here because (fill in the blank); but this is sure a racist country!” Huh? If it’s so bad, then why not move back? Oh, because you have an agenda! Because you want to spread sharia! Why didn’t you just say so? Because if they came out with the truth, they know they would be opposed.
You said, “we cannot use the same logic as we would a regualr fight.” Huh? What kind of logic do you propose we use? Illogic like they do? Isn’t that the only other option? Use your head! Truth is the most powerful thing in the world. We dare not think otherwise. Besides reading and posting here would be a waste of time if things weren’t logical.
Australia needs to wake up and smell the coffee. If they are ever going to be a power as great as the United States, they are going to have to allow integration of all peoples in their school system. Australia has proven that any country that forces minorities into the shadows will condemn itself by allowing the restriction of free and new ideas. Look at the plight of the Aboriginys. They got shafted by the white colonists. Their culture has almost disappeared only to be found in the outback. There are many colors in a flag the same as colors in a county. Australia needs to recognize this, or risk having African Americans boycott their steakhouses in this country!
Blah, blah, blah. You miss the entire point. The Muslims do not want to assimilate. They want to bring their pathetic, oppressive, stone-age culture to Australia. They all left their countries of origin because Australia offered a better life. Now they want to destroy Australia. Do you or any other grievance monger see the irony here? Oh, and about your paean for the “Aboriginys” [sic], so what if their culture has almost disappeared. It is called “survival of the fittest.” All you lefties spout evolution but when you see it in action you all act surprised and indignant. And go ahead with your silly boycott of Outback. I’ll just go there twice as often.
Oh yeah, just lay down and allow the islamic heathens to run amuck and take over your country..bull $#!t. They need to go back to their caves and continue to kill each other in the name of their so called “religion” of peace..bs
Assimilate my sweet bippie..destroy is more like it.. Fight em off Australia..
Buy Australian!!!!
Outback has just become my favorite restaurant. And I don’t think they’ll miss your patronage, Mika. They prefer polite customers who leave tips.
My guess is that mika is a vegan anyway.
The standards of a civilized society preclude Islam. The sharia is not a body of law at all but a neolithic “way” that predates Hammurabi’s codex and requires abandoning four thousand years of law.
Dispute the generous praise that the Muslim sovern funds pay for there are no notable Muslim contributions to civilization.
Mika, your prescription is ready for pick-up.
Hey! I’ve got the perfect solution to Muslims’ problem with Australia (and the U.S. for that matter) “not being a fit place to raise children because it’s so racist.” Raise your children someplace else! See? Problem solved.
Can you understand? when you allow another Country to dictate your Country, you no longer have a Country. Any Country who chooses to move to another Country should never make demands to change it, that is rude and unacceptable.
“Australia has proven that any country that forces minorities into the shadows will condemn itself by allowing the restriction of free and new ideas.”
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Muslims have no ‘free and new ideas’. They are straight from the 6th century.
I think the Cronulla riots of a few years ago showed that Aussies will not take BS from Islamists.
However, I thought the lefties in Australia were already teaching it was a racist country — you know, because of the treatment of Aborigines.
The correct response, while somewhat less than politically correct, is to deport the whole lot of them.
Absolutely correct!
Tell it like it is, Terry. I hope they listen to you.
So Terry, in the spirit of protecting Australia from foreign ideologies and allegiances, you will support the notion that Holocaust education in schools isn’t needed or wanted and politicians falling over themselves to declare their support of Israel is unseemly in Australian political life? After all Australian politicians are supposed to place the interests of Australia ahead of the interests of a foreign nation or culture aren’t they?
AH, the (rusty) steel trap mind of an anti-Semite, never failing to find a JOOO under every bed.
Its always about JOOOOs.
I would hope that particular proposal is trashed as thoroughly as it deserves. Regardless of what is being claimed, Muslims have been living peacefully in Australia – and yes, raising children without difficulties – for years.
Presumably Australia is “racist” because the general attitude is that who you are trumps what you are every time, and if you’re willing to do the work and give as good as you get, you’re welcome.
If that’s racist, then so am I, and proudly.
Moslems were living peacefully in Europe for years, too.
and Afganistan, Pakistan, India, Sudan, Lebonan, Somalia, Thailand, Russia, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Gaza……….and, and, and
Peacefull, but with an agenda, look at the times sq bomber, he had lived here for years, the suspect from Denver, he was also going to blow something up in NY. He had lived here for years.. There is an agenda..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpM6QKaAgP0&feature=player_embedded
EVERYWHERE Muslims have a presence, soon to follow are their supremacist incursions.
In fact, with unbridled, unapologetic arrogance, they soon place the host country on the defensive, knowing full well that the PC west is as soft as jelly.
Stealth jihad, via an ‘educational curriculum’ is as important to the Muslim Brotherhood as jihad of the sword-two sides of the jihadist’s arsenal.
To be sure, each foothold given them details their collective, incremental hubris and is best understood by reading, ‘The Muslim Mafia’, by Gaubatz and Sperry. Reading this well documented and sourced book is akin to reading a horror play, however, this is no play, it details the very essence of western civilization on the precipice, exposing the deep penetration of Islamists in western garb, embedded into Washington power centers and beyond.
No kidding.
Never submit.
Those ignorant, foolish dhimmi who support the mosque at Ground Zero should be made to read this.
If the LSM were to report the truth about islam, our country would be much better off.
Much.
Cue the trolls…
“Muslim,” of course, is not a race.
And if Australia is so dreadfully prejudiced against Muslims, why did they choose to move there?
“It seems to me imprudent.” “It seems to me reciprocity is warrented.” These are the lines of someone who does not understand the nature of the muslims making these demands. They do not want to “get along,” their long term plan is to make australia into a muslim state governed by sharia and all residents converted to islam, if not murdered for being Jews, Christians, Hindus, Sihks…Of course, the author of this peace will think that this is an over reaction to the demands of these muslims. It is just a statement of fact. Muslim extremists are leading the muslim community around the world. The more secular muslims are terrified, the western useful idiots are enablers, and the long march to a sharia controlled world rolls on. Sir, you need to get real. These demands are just the opening gambit of the radicals, not just an act of rudeness on the part of new immigrants. Get real, and block them every step of the way.
They do not want a state within a state. They want Australia to be a muslim state governed by sharia. Nothing less. This is just their first probings to see how weak the australians are and what their next step should be.
Muslims are “Pig-headed” about this Victory Mosque and here is why:
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/why-muslims-are-so-pig-headed-about-the-proposed-victory-mosque-at-ground-zero/
“If Australia is an undesirable place to raise children, why emigrate there in the first place? If sharia is the legal code you prefer, why not move to a nation where this code is in place?” Damn straight. This is why we have different countries on Earth.
…. why emigrate there in the first place?
They didn’t willfully, but were sent to “occupy”. What do you think the billions the Saudis have spent pushing Wahabbism over the last 30 years or so in the Western World was meant for?
Why is Europe having so many problems with its Muslims who won’t integrate into the native cultures?
Anyway can anybody list the “Positive” aspects of Islam, as opposed to the negative aspects?
“Muslim immigrants want to start from the premise that Australia is a “racist” country and not a fit place to raise children.”
OK, then don’t have kids or move…it’s an option. Where is your proof that you have been disadvantaged more than accommodated?
Compared with the native people of Australia, you are going to have to come up with something pretty compelling to earn any empathy and get my attention.
If you want to reform something, why not start with the people in your own faith who want to kill anyone who is not a believer?
LeighB, you don’t get it. The reason muslims migrate to the west is that it’s economically so convenient. The hell holes they came from are just that, hell holes. Life is so much easier in the West. Of course that means they bring their so-called “religion” with them and start demanding that we adopt their wonderful way of life.
We have got to fight this with everything we’ve got.
Of course this is worth fighting and defeating (think you misinterpreted my comment).
Why should the Australian school system comply with the requests of this Muslim minority? — OP
It’s called Muslim Supremacism. The Dhimmis/Kuffar are to comply with Muslim demands/orders. Subjugation to Islam.
Figure it out already!
In America, our Marxist president only allows two types of religion – Leftism and Islam. the rest must be ostracized, trivialized, ridiculed and finally banned. And what a relief! No more Christians shouting “Jesus, Mary, and Joseph”, just before they blow up a building. No more more Mormons with their calls for death to Israel and America. No more Hindu honor killings. No more beheadings by violent Amish extremists….
Very true! And notice no one has ever accused Muslims of being “bitter,” nor of “clinging to their guns” (since they obviously prefer their beheadings done by rusty sword).
Nor have I heard of Christianity being called a “religion of peace.”
Was any of this referenced in Ed Driscoll’s “Fake But Accurate, Hollywood and WaPo Style”? My head spins.
Notice how they use the propaganda developed by the USSR for use by modern secular leftists in free contries. This is no accident. Remember that the USSR trained Yasser Arafat and other anti-Western Muslims in propaganda/info-war techniques during the Cold War.
Islamic bigots, who would punish homosexuality with death and keep women as chattel and second class citizens, clamoring about alleged “racism” from Aussies is such a hoot.
I bet most Australians would like them all to go back where they came from.
where they came from had all the glory they claim to seek.
One thing that struck me was this, “Suppose a Jewish minority in Iran argued that Talmudic law should be introduced across the board for this group. By any reasonable standard this request would be rejected.”
The Jewish minority in Iran has a reserved parlimentary seat for which only Jews can vote and Jewish schools. It seems that you want Australia to treat Muslims more harshly than Iran treats Jews. Thats not a good place to be.
Make no mistake about it. Jews in Iran have dhimmi status which by law severely limits them. Moslems in Australia have full citizen status. Your comparison is totally invalid. Go piss up another rope.
You are a troll, right? Yes, jews have reserved seats in the Majlis – and North Koreans and Chinese have freedom of speech and assembly too. It’s in their constitutions.
Now – Muslims in that racist hellhole, Australia. There’s nowhere in the world where Muslims have more rights, opportunities, security and prosperity (with the honorable exception of the United States) than in Australia, a nation of immigrants that bends over backwards to give everyone a “fair go”, to use the aussie vernacular.
The idea that Australia is a racist country, so beloved of cheap grievance-mongers and lowbrow academics, is claptrap. No country, including Australia, is free of racists, but the western democracies are the least racist countries in the world – and Australia has fewer racial extremists than any of them.
That Jew holding the “reserved” seat is not free to speak his mind. If he were, say, to speak up for Israel’s right of self-defense, or to demand that Jewish schools be free to hire teachers of their own choosing, to set their own schedules and teach to their own values, they’d be arrested before one could shout “infidel”.
Most Jews there could only dream of the freedoms they enjoyed before the Shah was overthrown. I visited there in 1976. At least 70% of Iran’s Jews have fled since then, and for good reason.
I have an acquaintance, an MD, who is a Jew from Iran, who fled to the U.S. when the Shah fell. He has no desire to return there.
Sadly, the only real alternative is to kick them out. Liberty cannot exist side-by-side with Islam. Islam is the cause of almost every war today (communism is the other). It is a cancer and needs to be removed. Yes, there are plenty of peace loving Muslims and my heart goes out to them. But Islam adds nothing but oppression, tyranny and poverty to society. Segregation is the only peaceful solution, otherwise there will be war after war.
Muslims do not want to live under Sharia. They want others to do so. They will then be the lords.
“morally, Australia is not a good place to rear children, drugs, illicit relations. They argue that these conditions militate against integration. This is just for Sharia law to be implemented.
As an Aussie,I say: We DONT WANT SHARIA, NEVER EVER, EVER. And if that is what they want and what they object to WHY DON’T THEY JUST BUGGER OFF BACK TO THEIR SAND HOVELS? Australians enjoy life with a beer or two or three, a barbie, the beach(yes in a bikini or Speedo) and so what if we shack up( even if it is two males that shack up) so bloody what?
Its better than an arranged marriage at 6 years with your male cousin(the resulting inbreeding is what has caused this Muslim stupidity for centuries)
What morals do these Muslims have when Imams advertise for virgins to contract “temporary marriages” to relieve the tension men suffer at the shrine of Imam Rheza?—see: http://planet-iran.com/index.php/news/19414. I go go and on-I have lots more.
The inmates are taking over the asylum.
This opens the gates for Tony Abbott, to have his education secretary go further
than Michael Gove, the British education secretary.
Australia is Australia, at least its good points, because of British imports like the Magna Carta establishing deep roots. Plus, compare two movies set during the depression: “Phar Lap” and “Seabiscuit”.
The triumph of the worth of the ordinary person is evident in both movies, even
though they are set in different places.
Islam is not a race. One can be African, Native American, Asian, Eskimo and be a Muslim. Race is so over used and is really boring.Islam actually, by the latest tallies, contributes zero to the world as far as productivity. No inventions, no science, no medicine, no mechanical enginering feats, no…. well nothing. Islam which is a complete political system needs to look inward and question the void they have.
Miguel, you hit the nail on the head. While most, not all, Muslim’s practice the tenets of Islam, Islam is a political religion and I might add a very mis-guided one.
One of the reasons we see such incredible shifts of populations is that the world is simply over populated. That is true for the Muslims and it is true that they wish to convert others to their religion which is steeped in violence and hatred. Self hatred will always result in unwanted behaviors.
It would seem that Australia’s elected are following the lead of Europe and the U.S. by not protecting their natural born. The notion of our elected to assist Corporations to increase their consumer base comes at a very high cost to a countries natural born citizen. Throwing such disparent groups into a melting pot is not working. The Muslim culture and values stand in such opposition.
Today its the accusatory “racist” tomorrow it will be “heretic” based on religious ideology. It will be a call for Sharia law to replace a countries existing laws and constitutions.
Since the purpose of education is to teach children how to think, it is necessary to begin by teaching them the truth.
Teaching children that some people believe one thing, while others believe something else, and still more demand proof rather than belief is the only acceptable ~Truth~ since the rest is just opinion.
Teach children to take the facts and deduce the rest.
Leave the teaching of religions, superstitious rituals etc. to those whose job it is: The shamans of each religion. Ideological propaganda does not belong in schools.
Hope the Aussies have the backbone to stop this foolishness before it starts. . . we dont have it here in America right now. . . .as long as the current POS are in power, we are lacking in real leadership. . . where are all the Repubs calling en masse for a stop to the Ground Zero mosque/outhouse? These mooslem rabblerousers need to be slapped down, and shipped off to a country that will appreciate them. . . like iran or libya.
The answer is to give them Sharia law. All registered Muslims to be subject to Sharia Law. There will be religious police and a separate court system. It will only apply to registered Muslims and will not apply to disputes between Muslims and infidels nor will it override Australian law. It will be paid for by a special tax on registered Muslims.
Good! Grief! Absolutely! Not!
This is precisely what the current Islamic subversions we call “Londonistan” is all about. These enclaves become crablike malignancies which will destroy Western Civilization.
Man! Wake up!
The problem is that the Muslims would have Shariah override local laws, e.g. loss of a hand for robbery or stoning for adultery. Even worse, they would soon apply it to non-Muslims who interact with the Muslim community (e.g. the Minneapolis taxi-cab refusal to carry alcohol or dogs). This is something that no country can allow, since it leads to loss of sovereignty. (Note: where the Orthodox Jews or Christian groups have religious courts, they only apply to members of the faith and never override local secular law).
actually the title is misleading. instead of “Australian Muslims Push for Islamic ‘Perspective’ in School Curriculum” it should be “Australian Muslims Push for a foot up their ass in School Curriculum”
We are all very keen about preserving our western norms and values, especially from the encroaching Moslems. So, almost all 40 commenter were very happy for the opportunity.
Sorry, maybe the booklet was revised, but nowhere in it does the one sentence everybody attacked, “every Australian school student would be taught positive aspects about Islam and Muslims — and that Australia is a racist country.” appear
If Australia is an undesirable place to raise children, why emigrate there in the first place?
Because the idea is takeover, spreading the ummah to every corner of the Earth, not integration and adaptation.
As you say, “capitulation to a state within a state.”
We infest free societies all over the world with a constant stream of little, niggling demands to “adjust” their ways to accommodate us (food, dress, behaviors, literature, political organization, an endless list of accommodations)
We cause riots over bikini clad women on Australian beaches.
We yell and scream in mock outrage when one of our screeching, hate-filled imams is called out in the Australian press.
We take advantage of “freedom of religion” to set up shop in mosques all over, official and unofficial, and work tirelessly to subvert the society from within.
We’re doing the work of Allah. We cannot fail.
And another must watch.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpM6QKaAgP0&feature=player_embedded
The Muslims try the same strategy in every country they populate. I’m sorry western nations don’t all banc together and tell them to get lost.
All real Aussies and Canadians and New Zealanders and Americans should take a continuously long and deeply searching look, starting right now……at….Londonistan.
The very idea and most terrible irony that the contributor of our language, now in use world wide, and the Magna Carta—-is now the locus of so many subversive enclaves of Islam, “no-go’ zones, aren’t they?….. and that the much vaunted virtues of our evolved forms of democratic government are used now against us in the form of “lawfare” and sleeping subversion—-is appalling, and is to be thwarted at every opportunity.
This isn’t about “freedom of religion”, far from that; it’s all about the creation of enclaves for the incubation of the seeds of Islamic Sharia….the very Sharia that is out to destroy us, inch by inch, a little bit here, a wee little concession there….on and on……..Stop it now.
No go zones are called zones urbaines sensibles (sensitive urban zones) in France, “ZUS, and there are 751 of them as of last count.”
751 “zones” in France, Muslim enclaves, “those places in France that the French state does not control” & French police do not go in when crimes are committed or riots break out.
Zones Urbaines Sensibles
Incroyable.
…O-Boy! I do love the grace and sensibility (!) of that term “Zones Urbains Sensibles” …. only in French, right?
….urbane, indeed.
Charlie, how often do you pay attention to Daniel Hannan’s blog, which is over at http://www.hannan.co.uk
In case that you, and others, have not read his more recent bloggings, there is an interesting discussion
about the Anglo-sphere, and how the US can be a part of it, rather than placing too many eggs in the basket of the US in its efforts to have the light from the lamp of lady liberty shine in more places.
Thank you Mr. Lincoln, really, I’ll look that up… …I don’t surf around that much, and I’m just now getting familiar with the common-sense postings here which are such a welcome relief from th’ media.
….David W, Lincoln….
….this is pasted just now from Hannan’s website……RE: the B.B.C., and is absolutely perfect! Please forgive being off-thread for the moment….and out of context…
…..”Today’s feature branched out very slightly, and interviewed one other sheriff candidate, a chap from rural Alabama who seemed to have been chosen because a) his accent would make British listeners think of Mississippi Burning and b) his name was Jimmy Ray Swindle.”
I attended Sewanee, a college in a “Dry” County in East Tennessee, and upon occasion would go with a friend in his car to buy our whiskey and gin in a “Wet” county in nearby Alabama. Oh, my…Oh, my…OH!
We were caught attempting to “run” alcohol across the State Line and were forced to watch as the arresting Alabama Sheriff took us to the local jail and forced us to watch as he slowly poured out each bottle into the jail’s toilet. I was terrified that my respectable cousins in nearby South Pittsburg, Tennessee would be notified. They weren’t.
That happened close to sixty years ago.
Thanks for recommending the Hannan link.
Hardly a day can pass without some absurb remarks coming from muslims. Are they trying to tell us that western countries aren’t fit to raise their children?
Would that be because they wish to raise their children to kill apes and pigs?
This would indeed be the proper education for young minds, according to muslims. That way there would be no racism, because there would be no apes and pigs. They wonder why we don’t accept their insanity.
We wonder why they do.
I have asked this before: Why do so many lily, white, effete progressives side with the very thing that will ensure their demise-death? What is it about the left that they make these Faustian deals with Marxism and now Islam. Do the white leftists everywhere have the same pathology? Why do they hate the very lands, cultures, freedoms, races, traditions and societies that gave them everything they wanted in life?
Yet they will not leave the very places they hate and go live in Islamic nations or communist nations. No they decry what is good and honor what is miserable and repugnant to the values of deceny and goodness in life. The only way Islam achieves more and gains footholds in good societies is because of the WHITE, EFFETE left.
The ultimate question is NOT what to do about the emerging caliphate of Islamicists but their white enablers? Islamicists like Hispanic illegals will leave if they lost the support of the WHITE elitists who help them.
Why do so many lily, white, effete progressives side with the very thing that will ensure their demise-death?
Because they think they’ll be exempted when they tell their own personal be-header that they’re one of the “good” infidels ?
Because it (this siding) is fashionable within élitist circles, including academia, circles of people who consider themselves wiser and better than the hoi polloi ? Because if you don’t side with your fellow élitists in all domains of “belief”, you’ll be cast out of the circle ? (Washington DC social and political circles absolutely run on who is “in” and who is “out”. Being out is like being dead.)
Because Islamists are seen as the underdog and knee jerk liberals, in typical knee jerk fashion, must (appear to) support the underdog ?
(in truth, there is no group of people you should least trust to have your back)
Islamists get a big laugh out of their effete, progressive enablers.
Allah is so good !
I think that the people from down under should not follow the same path some of the Europen nations have followed and are now finding out they should have had more forsight by studing the religious teachings that Islam follows. If they want a class on Their culture presented in a class room enviorement then it should include every thing related to that culture’s contributions and their prejudice against other of a different belife or life style, and their contribution to terrorism. The big question is do they want to be Australian citizan or not.
The Cross of St George or the Crescent Moon. One must fall.
http://thecampofthesaints.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/the-house-of-the-rising-muslim/#comments
This post by bobbelvedere has one of our Founders take on the religion of peace.
Creeping Sharia in the United States
In some ways, it speaks of the goodness of America that we have had such difficulty coming to grips with the challenge of radical Islamists. It is our very commitment to religious liberty that makes us uncomfortable with defining our enemies in a way that appears linked with religious belief.
However, America’s commitment to religious liberty has given radical Islamists a potent rhetorical weapon in their pursuit of sharia supremacy. In a deliberately dishonest campaign exploiting our belief in religious liberty, radical Islamists are actively engaged in a public relations campaign to try and browbeat and guilt Americans (and other Western countries) to accept the imposition of sharia in certain communities, no matter how deeply sharia law is in conflict with the protections afforded by the civil law and the democratic values undergirding our constitutional system.
The problem of creeping sharia is most visibly on display in France and in the United Kingdom, where there are Muslim enclaves in which the police have surrendered authority and sharia reigns. However, worrisome cases are starting to emerge in the United States that show sharia is coming here. Andy McCarthy’s writings, including his new book The Grand Jihad, have been invaluable in tracking instances in which the American government and major public institutions have been unwilling to assert the protections of American law and American values over sharia’s religious code. Some examples include:
In June 2009, a New Jersey state judge rejected an allegation that a Muslim man who punished his wife with pain for hours and then raped her repeatedly was guilty of criminal sexual assault, citing his religious beliefs as proof that he did not believe he was acting in a criminal matter. “This court believes that he was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited.” Thankfully, this ruling was reversed in an appellate court.
In May 2008, a disabled student at a public college being assisted by a dog was threatened by Muslim members of the student body, who were reluctant to touch the animal by the prescription of sharia. The school, St. Cloud State, chose not to engage the Muslim community, but simply gave the student credit without actually fulfilling the class hours so as to avoid conflict.
In a similar instance in November 2009, a high school senior in Owatonna, Minn., was suspended in order to protect him from the threat of violence by radical Islamists when he wrote an essay about the special privileges afforded his Somali Muslim counterparts in the school environment.
In order to accommodate sharia’s prohibition of interest payments in financial transactions, the state of Minnesota buys homes from realtors and re-sells them to Muslims at an up-front price. It is simply not the function of government to use tax money to create financial transactions that correspond to a religious code. Moreover, it is a strategy to create a precedent for legal recognition of sharia within U.S. law.
Amazingly, there are strong allegations that the United States now owns the largest provider of sharia financing in the world: AIG.
Last month, police in Dearborn, Mich., which has a large Muslim population, arrested Christian missionaries for handing out copies of the Gospel of St. John on charges of “disturbing the peace.” They were doing so on a public street outside an Arab festival in a way that is completely permissible by law, but, of course, forbidden by sharia’s rules on proselytizing. This is a clear case of freedom of speech and the exercise of religious freedom being sacrificed in deference to sharia’s intolerance against the preaching of religions other than Islam.
Shockingly, sharia honor killings-in which Muslim women are murdered by their husbands, brothers or other male family members for dishonoring their family-are also on the rise in America but do not receive national attention because they are considered “domestic disturbances.” (A recent article in Marie Claire Magazine highlights recent cases and the efforts to bring national attention to this horrifying trend.)
Cases like this will become all the more common as radical Islamists grow more and more aggressive in the United States
Only Cowards Stone People to Death: An Islamic Religious Ritual
August 19, 2010 – by Phyllis Chesler
Yesterday, I appeared on Fox News’ The Strategy Room to discuss a recent stoning in Afghanistan and the issue of stoning in general. Kimberly Guilfoyle interviewed me both skillfully and graciously. The subject is a very distressing and somewhat mysterious one for most westerners.
What does it mean when a mob of men, numbering anywhere from 50 to 200, stone a female child to death — as happened in October of 2008 in Somalia? That poor soul was not only a 13-year-old child, she had also just been raped. Indeed, that was her sole “crime” and the reason for her torture-execution. She was forced into a hole and buried nearly up to her neck. She took a long time to die and kept crying out for her life. In addition to the 50 active stoners, 1000 more men cheered them on.
What does this tell us?
First, that barbarians are mainly cowards who do not view themselves as responsible for their actions. Everyone is the murderer and therefore, no one is the murderer. The group both absorbs and atones for any possible guilt or hesitation that even one individual might have felt. However, as we shall see, there is also another way of looking at this.
For a culture presumably so concerned with “honor,” so consumed with concepts of responsibility towards the family, clan, or “ummah” (Muslim people), those who stone a living being to death utterly shrink from any individual responsibility for carrying out their bloody deeds. Entire families become conspirators in an honor killing; village and religious councils collaborate to issue a death sentence; Muslim men sexually harass women in the streets (of Egypt) — and in large mosque-inflamed mobs (in Algeria).
In terms of stoning, which is primarily a contemporary Muslim-only custom, not only do cowardly men hide behind each other, clearly they lack the ability to act as individuals. That power is reserved for one man, one leader, one ruling cabal only. In Afghanistan, the Taliban hooligans threw the first stones.
This tells us something else that is important. The need for a mob is, in a sense, proof that the individuals who compose it are all being held hostage to the will of the psychopathic criminals who rule them. Oppose them, and you yourself might be stoned to death. Hostage-mobs also share the “guilt,” or rather, their leaders’ point of view. The leaders cannot be held accountable for their actions either — everyone did it.
In addition, sharing a so-called Muslim sinner’s blood, especially female blood, is yet another way to forge a blood-brotherhood that is based on male supremacism.
Stoning is practiced in contemporary Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, and Nigeria. In 2006, a poll conducted in “moderate” Indonesia found that 50% of Muslims there supported stoning in cases of adultery, however it is defined. Adultery might include: a married woman who is raped by a stranger, or a woman promised in marriage to one man but who chooses another. This is precisely what happened in the recent case in Afghanistan.
The Grand Torturer Khomeini brought stoning back to Iran. Uneducated mullahs in the provinces rather liked it. They also liked drugs, drug trafficking, forcing girls into prostitution and then jailing or hanging them for it; temporary “marriages”; forced veiling, etc. Although stoning is now under legal review in Iran, to date, eight men and three women await stoning execution.
In Iran, one woman, accused of adultery, was sentenced to be lashed 99 times — and then sentenced to be stoned to death. Due to an international campaign and due to the hard work of Iranian dissidents, Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani’s sentence was delayed. But she was lashed 99 times and her teenage son was forced to witness her helplessness, humiliation, and torture — and, in a sense, forced to both share these emotions, second-hand with his mother. Her son’s presence before her nakedness was meant to shame them both and challenged him to become a very hard man as a way of avoiding an eventual nervous breakdown.
I am not sure whether there is any connection, but think about this. When Muslims go on pilgrimage to Mecca, part of their three day ritual includes stoning “The Devil.” Large groups literally throw stones at giant concrete pillars. This suggests that stoning is a Muslim religious ritual, not a tribal custom. Therefore, stoning a living human being is not only an act of human sacrifice — it is a classic religious ritual meant to glorify the stoners’ God.
A little like jihad if you ask me.
They have a choice and that is get the hell out of Australia and return to their own ghetto. It seems civilized people could not live with these elements of barbarism.
I suggest that folks here just download and read the report. This is a beat-up, and it did the rounds here back in july. Herbert’s quote of “every Australian school student would be taught positive aspects about Islam and Muslims — and that Australia is a racist country” isn’t from the proposal itself, it’s from articles by the herald sun and courier mail – two of the less credible major dailies.
I did have a look at the report, and I think it’s reasonable. It’s not an official proposal, it’s basically an information pack for teachers and schools who ARE interested in what it suggests. It contains a fair amount of reasonably balanced information, most of which (I reiterate) has been well and truly misrepresented before.
I recommend a read of this:
http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2010/07/14/pulling-apart-andrew-bolts-anti-islam-crusade/
Well the UK is regretting giving creditability to Non-Violent Islmalism. Look at the state of France. Do we really want to give Fundamentalist Muslims who spout the virulent Whabbism from Saudi Arabia a larger foot hold in Australia?
Especially considering Saudi Arabia’s human right record. Unless you consider the OIC’s version of Sharia human rights has credibility. Which is actually quite pathetic and laughable.
The Uk Government now has advice that non-violent Islamists still have the same end goal as the Taliban, Muslim Brotherhood, they just use different means.
Australia, USA, Europe, Canada, NZ, and UK should become anti sharia.
I would vote for a politician with a anti sharia platform. Seems politicians with this platform are popping up all over the west. It’s about time too.