As State Senator, Obama Pushed for Racial Data Collection
As an Illinois state Senator, Barack Obama once proposed a bill mandating that police record the ethnicity of all drivers pulled over for traffic violations.
At a press conference attended by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), Obama announced that his “End Racial Profiling Act” (ERPA) would “determine whether there is a pattern of discrimination throughout [Illinois].” The collected data was to be submitted directly to the secretary of state for review, and ultimately — with the help of the ACLU — used to aid in prosecution if the data was found to confirm racial profiling.
ACLU lawyer Harvey Grossman told the Chicago Sun-Times:
In order to determine whether there is a pattern of racial preference you need the data. … In Illinois that data is real hard to come by.
Obama’s bill also “would require the state police to provide training and continuing education to its officers concerning cultural diversity, including sensitivity toward racial and ethnic differences” (“Lawmaker Urges Racial Profiling Study,” State Net, January 17, 2000).
Although Obama denied that the purpose of collecting racial data was to sue the police or otherwise to impede their work, the presence of the ACLU and their recent history in Illinois showed otherwise. In 1994, the ACLU sued the Illinois State Police, alleging troopers were targeting Hispanic drivers to bust drug-runners. (The case was eventually settled.) Nationally, Obama wasn’t alone, either: in December 1999, the U.S. Department of Justice agreed not to sue New Jersey over allegations that state police were racially profiling. The Chicago Sun-Times reported:
New Jersey agreed to begin documenting race, ethnicity and sex of drivers who are stopped, so authorities can monitor whom police are ticketing.
Eric Holder — then the deputy attorney general — helped with the settlement.
The data taken by the state of New Jersey were examined by statisticians at North Carolina State University. Blacks were caught speeding at twice the rates of whites, and even more blacks were present among faster speeders. Such findings should have thrown Obama’s assertions in doubt.
Requiring the police to ascertain the race of a pulled-over driver was not well-received by the police themselves. A compromise has since been struck in most states: drivers are asked their race on a form by the police officer after getting a ticket, or the officer may make his or her best judgment.
How would Tiger Woods get classified? His biggest ethnicity is Thai.
Farrakhan would agree.
I do not have Woods genealogy memorized as you obviously do. But I am sure obama wood be classified as black racist moron.
So State Senator Obama proposed a bill to determine if certain minority drivers were being profiled and also said there was “…indisputable evidence that blacks and Hispanics were being stopped disproportionately.” If he had such evidence, why propose a bill to gather such?
This type of so-called ‘profiling’ is another self-sealing argument courtesy of the Left and the black elite. Rather than take it on the chin for about 6%, namely black males, committing almost half the crimes in the United States, they actually turn it into a plus. Naturally more black folks are going to be suspects when it comes to law enforcement. But there is no nature or reality when it comes to the Left. Massive profiling of non-whites is magically turned into a crime by whites that ironically and in an Orwellian manner, means that the more blacks commit crimes, the more racist white people are.
If you can follow all that, you are an official graduate of Derrick Bell’s Critical Race Donkey.
Assuming the existence of two equally sized racial groups A and B, if Group A commits twice the crimes of Group B, would the gathering of data on both groups pressure the police to let half of Group A’s crimes go unpunished in order to achieve statistical arrest equality? Or, would the police have to gin up arrests of Group B in order to achieve equality with Group A? If you achieve arrest equality, wouldn’t you, in fact, be confirming George Orwell’s rule that “All are equal. Some are more equal than others.” What would be the overall effect upon the containment of crime? What would be the overall effect upon society for the general safety of law abiding members of both Group A and Group B?
Fair enough. And I insist that the mainstream media accurately identify the race of every perpetrator they deem significant enough to report in their newspaper columns, and on the TV news. You cannot solve societal problems by hiding and distorting the truth.
In one of Ann Coulter’s books (I can’t recall which one) there’s an intersting story: Blacks were complaining about being “harrassed” (pulled over) by cops on the NJ Turnpike. ABC News investigated by setting up a secret speed camera of their own and found out that, basically, black males are utterly incapable of driving the speed limit. Since the results were not what ABC had hoped to get, they shelved the story, looked the other way and whistled.
To ‘ell with the canard of ” walking/driving while Black”. If you want to see real racism in action….. just defend yourself while White.. or perceived as White, from a minority bashing your skull into the pavement.
FWIW, every traffic contact in IL results in the race of offender being sent to the state.
I’m sure everyone here can figure out what the ‘unintended’ consequences are, so the Officer doesn’t appear racist.
The Real Culture of Corruption
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sng98xQuRrM
FWIW, every traffic contact in IL result in racial information being sent to the state.
If there were a true ‘end racial profiling act’ attached to the media, MSNBC, CNN, and every black pundit on the political Left from Michael Eric Dyson to Melissa Harris-Perry would be out of work.
The racial myths they perpetuate about white Americans have all the precise science of Greek Mythology.
I just learned today is “Emancipation Day”, but maybe it’s only valid in DC. Anyway, why are the do-nothing Welfare classes getting another day off? Will the Black Caucus now demand an additional annual calender day? How does someone on welfare spend a day off? Off from what? Maybe Obummer will take them all on one of his well deserved vacations. Mooch can feed them boiled carrot tops and chitlins. Sounds fun.
I wouldn’t mind another day off.
Well, hell, I suppose we must have racial and ethnic balance regardless of the crime in progress? Yes in deed, to behaviorally profile successfully, we can’t leave it up to those racist cops and police administrators to set the performance mandates to insure racial balance in crime fighting. Since there’s just too many blacks killing blacks, it must be a culturally biased head counting issue?
Thomas Jefferson’s Warning To America!
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Thomas.Jefferson.Quote.CA94
“If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered.”
by:
Thomas Jefferson
(1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
Source: in 1802 in a letter to then Secretary of the Treasury, Albert Gallatin
Yes, Jefferson who had debt trouble for a good portion of his life, selling his library to Congress to try and pay it off, and ultimately dying deeply in debt, hated those evil bankers who lent him money then were so bougeoise as to expect him to pay it back.
“So State Senator Obama proposed a bill to determine if certain minority drivers were being profiled and also said there was “…indisputable evidence that blacks and Hispanics were being stopped disproportionately.” If he had such evidence, why propose a bill to gather such?” – saltineamerican
Because the intent is to cause racial grievance and division in order to further an agenda; which has become even more apparent during Obama’s tenure as POTUS. He’re re-hashing old techniques over and over and over and over. Pure mindless BS.
Enough is enough with this BS … we gotta call him on everything he says and does; in other words … go on the offense and stop Obama setting the narrative all the time.
U.S. homicide and other crime statistics are available here for 2009, apparently the last year for which statistics are currently available.
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/offenses/expanded_information/homicide.html
Did I read that wrong or are whites about 15 or 16 times as likely to be killed by blacks than vice versa? And the hard numbers for 2009 are that more than twice as many whites were killed by blacks than vice versa – 209 versus 454.
And the Left and the black press wonders why people get upset when this myth is perpetuated around the Martin case that precisely the opposite is happening. They characterize it as ‘white panic’ or some other absurdity that bends reality to its limit.
If you ever wondered by what mechanism, an entire country can be driven insane, as happened in Nazi Germany, ask yourself how crazy racists like Dr. Boyce Watkins at Syracuse, Melissa Harris-Perry at Tulane, Cornel West at Princeton and Michael Eric Dyson at Georgetown can be where they are. It is a disgrace that academics are incapable of parsing even the simplest statistics, preferring instead to cling to a view of white Americans as intransigent racists despite overwhelming academic evidence against which the Left throws up a few anecdotes and says, ‘this is reality.’ You’d have to have your head examined to send your kids to those schools.
On top of all this is a re-writing of history that says America was built on racism and slavery; an America where every American owned a slave and a far greater number of lynchings in a lot more places took place than actually did.
According to the black Tuskeegee institute, this is from memory, about 3,700 lynchings of black folks took place from 1882-1968, 90% of them in the deep south. According to the statistics I just read on that link, 4,500 whites are killed by blacks every 10 years. Case closed.
I’m thinking we’d be a lot better off if some of those white wahines had given it up for skinny little Barry. Damn he hates us honkies!
How do you end racial profiling by demanding racial profiling?
Seriously. The local high school sent home forms to the parents telling us that we were to designate the race of our children, and if we did not do it, the principal would be required to do it, under federal law.
This was in Columbia, Maryland, where so many people moved to be away from this kind of cr@p.
I was pleased to find out, when I compared notes with lots of other parents, that nobody sent in the forms, unless they decided to put in the wrong information.
How do you end racial profiling by demanding racial profiling?
You can also ask, “How do you end racial discrimination by demanding racial discrimination (affirmative action)?”
The answer is, you don’t. You’re just discrimination against other people.
Seriously. The local high school sent home forms to the parents telling us that we were to designate the race of our children, and if we did not do it, the principal would be required to do it, under federal law.
Do what I do, check the “other” box and write in “human”. If they demand a more detailed answer, you can rightfully call them a racist.
You need data to demonize authoritatively.
Otherwise, you’re just another racist demigod grabbing your crotch and gattling invectives at people who are better at life than you are.
I would like to know how the h3ll the police can tell the race of a driver of a vehicle at the distances involved in a decision about whether probable cause to stop exists?
My vision isn’t very good, but it corrects to 20/20, and I know I can’t tell the race of a driver who is speeding or driving recklessly until after I get a whole lot closer.
The pine tree air freshener hanging from the rear view mirror is a dead give away.
Barack Hussein Obama Will Win Re-Election (Part One)
As difficult as it is to concede, barring a disaster or intercession by an almighty power, President Barack Hussein Obama will win re-election on November 6th. The final vote tally will be far from a landslide but a sufficient proportion of the electorate will ensure the president serves another disastrous term.
That prediction is based on a variety of factors not the least of which is the widely-held expectation that Obama and all the president’s men and women will wage the dirtiest campaign since the populist Andrew Jackson beat the Democrat-Republican John Quincy Adams in 1828.
Obama will also win on a populist platform predicated on calculated distortions and misrepresentations supplemented by his hole cards of racial and class warfare and he will be bankrolled with a billion dollar campaign treasury.
However, the principal reason he will emerge victorious is not the nefarious tactics he and his minions will employ but that he has locked up various constituencies which will cast Democrat ballots because they almost always have and despite compelling reasons to vote otherwise.
Those constituencies in order of Democrat allegiance:
. African-Americans. Understandably, blacks chose a fellow, if semi, African-American in 2008 because, well, because he was almost black. If I were a black man, I would have supported him simply because of his race and centuries of oppression and disenfranchisement. However, the second time around, I would have supported the candidate who would best serve the interests of the country.
Thirteen percent of the electorate, fully 96% of blacks, voted for Obama four years ago versus 43 percent of whites. While the 96% was anticipated, the 43% reflected the amazing number of “white guilters” who felt it was time for a minority presence in the White House regardless of his lack of qualifications and experience as belated recompense for the enslavement of Obama’s forebears.
In spite of the fact the president has done as little for blacks–aside from hiring them in record numbers and for highly visible positions–as he has for other races, the African-American community is a sure bet to go for Obama in 2012 by margins approximating 2008 particularly but not exclusively due to his politicizing the tragic death of Trayvon Martin.
Chalk up around 13% for Obama.
. Jewish Americans. Jews are by nature and history liberal since they have been discriminated against even longer than blacks. They have endured oppression and slavery for thousands of years, and have been Democrats for as long as there has been an America.
Nevertheless, there is ample cause for Jews to abandon their loyalties to the Democrat Party this year , . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=21640.)
Keep remembering that Obama was elected by only 30% of registered voters. There was a 58% turnout and of the people who actually voted, 52% voted for Obama. Multiply 0.58 and 0.52 and you get 0.30. Just 30% of registered voters saddled us with Obama. Forget about the polls and just vote. He has not gained followers.
I’m not sure where you got your info. but this law has been in effect in Illinois for several years. Anytime ANY police officer in Illinois issues a traffic ticket they have to fill out a portion on the back of one copy which is forwarded to the Court. Among other things it asks for the individuals race and whether the vehicle was searched.
There is an easy way to ascertain whether the police are profiling or whether non-whites are speeding in greater numbers:
Just set up a camera/and a detector that records all of the cars and their speeds and snaps a picture of the driver/or records their license plate.
Analyze the data and get back to me.
Every state I’ve been in requires a photograph, and that photo is on computer. Easy enough to bring up the DL photo for each DL # on each ticket, and decide there.
No — not just ticketted offenders.
Everybody.
Then, take the numbers of speeders per race and divide by thhe numbers of drivers per race. That simple.
Just what one would expect from a race man.
i can see what qualities he espoused that made him such a catch as an up and coming polititian. besides voting ‘present’ the majority of the time, wasn’t he also about the only congressman to (ever) vote not to give aid to children who somehow survived an abortion? heck of a time to wake up and vote, eh?
Really hard to avoid profanities and foul language on this one.
Would there have been a white Hispanic classification?
How about we collect race data from traffic cameras. We can count how many cars go by an intersection and we can then observe the photographs from the cameras when the car goes through a red light or speeds.
We cross correlate the car registration to some data that indicates the race of the individual. Then look to see what the machine proportions are versus the flesh and blood police officers. Impartial databases like this ought to indicate whether there is or is not a problem.
Honestly, if there is a cultural difference, we ought to know so that we can tailor educational efforts towards the people that can use them the most. Whether it is men more than women, Teens, elderly, Hispanic, Black, Arab, whatever… At the end of the day, I don’t care who the speeding driver is, race or religion play no part in a crash.
I’m surprised that when Obama endorsed partial birth abortions he didn’t want doctors to get the race of the mother, baby AND doctor to see if there was discrimination in murdering babies.
Minorities are subjected to more traffic stops, arrests, and incarceration because they disproportionately commit more traffic offenses and crimes. That’s the answer that the media won’t touch even though there is more than enough data to silence any challenge to this reality. The liberals would rather blame the police the the numbers rather than the dysfunctional lifestyles of these subcultures that are not surprisingly racial minority heavy.
Males are convicted of crimes far more often than women. Gender profiling?
i thought we were all white-something now.. why don’t we make it simple and just say white when there’s a crime.. seems that’s the direction blacks want to take. look the black “culture” is criminality.. that’s just the way it is..
I totally believe this. After all, obama is famous for voting ‘present’. He might also have wanted to know who else was present. What a maroon.
Racist Scum.
FACTS – minorities are pulled over more often. The great Obama suggested that police reports note the race, nothing more.
Your RACIST SCUM article puts words in his mouth.
FACTS – police target minorities hoping to find drugs or even better, CASH they can claim is drug money. $1200 in moving money – seized. A black man has too much cash in his wallet – seized.
Paul – Indiana – right the lazy indolent State Senator couldn’t be bothered to vote, yet defeated Hillary in fierce campaign and every minute must fight the loathsome Republicans and Tea Bagger Whores.