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Are Homosexuals Born, or Made?

Jason Collins’ coming-out party raises interesting scientific questions.

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Rand Simberg

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May 3, 2013 - 12:26 am
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One recent theory to explain this is based not on genetics per se but on epigenetics, in which heritable phenotypical changes can occur without an actual alteration of the gene sequence. Unfortunately for the theory, though:

…so far the theory “is not supported by any data.”

Indeed, Andrea Ciani, an evolutionary psychologist at the University of Padova, thinks that a variety of factors, including genes and epigenetics, influence sexual orientation. “It’s a little bit vain to think we’ll find the answer to homosexuality as a whole.”

Which is just as well, because I really didn’t want to get into those particular biological weeds. And to the degree that it’s genetic, it’s unlikely that it’s a single gene, because it doesn’t seem to be a very evolutionarily useful one. It’s more likely some complex of genes, each of which is useful on its own, but when combined, results in the person being gay.

Anyway, I have a more parsimonious explanation. Whether from gene or womb, most people (like me) are born straight, a few are born who wouldn’t do it with the opposite sex on a bet, and some (perhaps a lot) are born in between and really do have a choice. That is, they are bisexual. My guess would be that it’s a skewed distribution toward heterosexuality, with a long thin tail of homosexuals, but a big bulge on the heterosexual side of the scale of folks who can go either way. That is, they are to one degree or another bisexual.

My theory would explain why some of the most vociferous opponents of homosexuality often (more often than one might have guessed) turn out to be attracted to the same sex — they have a choice, and they feel morally superior to those upon whom they project their own bisexual orientation, and thus assume that people who don’t uphold their own standards of morality are merely weak-willed. These would also be the people who really could be counseled to go straight for religious reasons — they really had been influenced by their postbirth environment, and were capable of going the other way.

So this might explain the twin conundrum as well. The twins who are both homosexual either were born homosexual or were born bi and both chose homosexuality. The ones where only one twin had that trait (as with the Collins brothers) were born bi, and made different choices. I know that if I were heterosexual with an identical twin, I would find it mind blowing to be told he was gay, because then I would be wondering why I wasn’t. But in Jason’s brother’s case, maybe he’s thinking: “Well, I decided to do the marriage-to-a-woman-and-have-kids thing, but I can see his point of view.”

In any event, the mystery continues.

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Rand Simberg is a recovering aerospace engineer and a consultant in space commercialization, space tourism and Internet security. He offers occasionally biting commentary about infinity and beyond at his weblog, Transterrestrial Musings.

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A homophobe, literally, is someone who is unreasonably afraid of homosexuals. It is a word that was made up by 1984 type control-the-language-and-you-control-the-people far left radicals who hate truth and freedom. It is, of course, used as an ad hominem where a valid argument does not exist.
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I had a close gay friend in the '70s who told me that he was seduced by a camp councilor as a young boy and this experience was responsible for his becoming gay. We lost touch and in the intervening years the Gay Pride political movement had taken firm hold among most gays and lesbians. When my friend and I resumed our friendship after many years I mentioned in passing his experience with the camp councilor and he denied it had ever happened or that he had ever said such a thing. You see, to admit that childhood sexual abuse may have been responsible for his sexual orientation had become a danger to the "born that way" narrative and the political power gays were seeking.
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There is no gay gene.
If it was genetic, then both twins would be homosexuals 100% of time, but studies have shown the opposite - it is nurture/environment.
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Are homosexuals born or made? Who cares ... born or made they are still responsible for their behavior.
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My observations are:

1. There are people who make or made a choice.
2. There are people who have a deeply ingrained homosexual attraction and always have. Perhaps it's genetic, perhaps not.

It complicates any discussion.
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I believe that the bible when it says;Lord God allowed men&women to give into their own lusts,thats what did happen.
We aren't at all born this way.
God himself has never ever lied to his followers.
Only 1 man ever died&came back to live&hundreds witnessed this evernt.Liz
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Genetic COMPONENT.

Things need not be 100% Genetic or not. You can have the genes for any condition and not get it.
There is a genetic component for cleft lip, for example- and considering it is obvious at birth, and generally corrected immediately thereafter with surgery, I sincerely doubt that the non-genetic components include contact with other cleft lip sufferers.
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Next question
If the gay male couple after having 1000 partners marry will that redeem them? Same question for male/female couple

Predatory sex


In her conversion account, Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert An English Professor’s Journey into Christian Faith, Rosario Butterfield describes a talk she gave at Geneva College about sexual sin. She concluded that the Christian students who listened to her didn’t realize what sexual sin was all about. Even Christians consider sex recreational, and think of sexual sin as a matter of excess. Not so, she argues:

“What good Christians don’t realize is that sexual sin is not recreational sex gone overboard. Sexual sin is predatory. It won’t be ‘healed’ by redeeming the context or the genders. Sexual sin must simply be killed. What is left of your sexuality after this annihilation is up to God. But healing, to the sexual sinner, is death; nothing more and nothing less. I told me audience that I think too many young Christian fornicators plan that marriage will redeem their sin. Too many young Christian masturbators plan that marriage will redeem their patterns.. Too many young Christian internet pornographers think that having legitimate sex will take away the desire to have illicit sex. They’re wrong. And the marriages that result from this line of thinking are dangerous places. . . . Marriage does not redeem sin. Only Jesus Himself can do that” (83).
Peter Leithart
first things blog
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Do the anti-homosexual people who tell gays (primarily gay men) to just, "Shut up and get married and fight it," think so lowly of women that they would deny a loving woman an intimate life? Are they subconsciously saying that after a certain age the sex won't matter anyway? Are they speaking from experience, meaning they get bored of their wives right away and thus also have to "fake it" for different reasons?

And what does this tell us about what heterosexual women think of themselves? How many women would want a tentative heterosexual husband with a former gay past after he completes the "therapies" that are described here? And how would they explain the "lost years" to the children, or everything else should the marriage collapse? Divorce is brutalizing: Why do such a horrible thing to children? Would we be so careless towards children as to put their mental health at risk? I guess some women aren't the "real parent" after all.

And only a woman with low self-worth would dedicate years to a futile conversion that she knows will end in pain. Also, is a woman determined to convert a gay the equivalent of a man obsessed with conquering a virgin woman? In this case, both demonstrate evidence of a monstrous ego, with the woman actually evidencing a masculine determination rather than a low self-worth.

Ultimately, if passing on gay DNA were the issue, then I also don't understand encouraging homosexuals to "shut up, get married, fake it, and start a family." Doesn't remaining gay actually prevent the chance of gay DNA from being passed down?

I guess my attitude is hopelessly old-fashioned in its outlook.

Thumbs Up to: tolerance, gay gentrification improving real estate values, gay characters in sitcoms and movies, awareness of violent gay bashing, no job discrimination, and Don't Ask, Don't Tell in most arenas. If the anti-gay crowd doesn't like this, tough.

Thumbs Down to: gay "marriage" and gay adoption, special legal protections and hate crime laws, gay clergy, openly gay military service, public funding of sex addictions and sex changes. And gays who don't know how to shut the F - - - up. If gays don't like this, get over it.
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This is a very difficult subject to make sense of . why is that? Why do we have needs?What are our needs. How do we respond to our needs? Think of the needs of an unborn baby in the womb. A born baby. A child. An teenager. an adult middle age elderly.
What I notice with transcendence walk needs are look at away from the culture one is pat of : Abraham left the city of Ur. why I came to my vow time in my life: Divine Love has no needs.What is there with no needs?
That is the secret . Relationships are added on with souls have a past experience yet now have transcended by Divine Love . They meet you where you are so one day you transcend your needs.
If the needs you were given in the city of UR when do you begin to move away from there?

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footnote
Abraham fell in love with his half sister Sarah and changed their names after their only son was born
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next question
why would the Divine Love Realms want to share what they have with "you"
Because they know who you were who you really are before the city of Ur before the founding of the world
this explains such great patience
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I would like to hear one, just one, argument in defense of homosexuality that does not equally apply to adult incest.
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Homosexual sex between consenting adults cannot result in the conception of a child, so it's does not have the potential to harm any innocent third party.
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"Those who condemn homosexual behavior, whether out of simple disgust or for religious reasons, have to believe that gay people, indeed, do have a choice, and are simply being willfully immoral."

No it does not. This is a straw man argument. We are all born with challenges to moral behavior, some more than others. There is nothing that forces one to practice certain lifestyles or sexual practices.

Similary, whether or not homosexuality is "curable", there are certainly therapies - and not all are "reparative therapy" - that help one to deal with it, like any other issue. Are they perfect? I suggest you put away the DSM and open a PDR, and see the limitations of, say, OCD treatment. Does this mean people with OCD shoud not try to get help with it?

Laws such as a California law preventing religious teenagers with homosexual tendencies from getting help in living a normal married life (to the extent possible) are nothing other than religious persecution of the absolute worst kind.
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"There is nothing that forces one to practice certain lifestyles or sexual practices."

Actually, this is true. This argument should apply to everyone, including gays.
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Jason Collins "follow-up" article in next week's Sports Illustrated will reveal he's also ambidextrous!

Another "bravery" phone call from the president is anticipated!
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