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‘TELEPHONIC SIGNATURE’? As of Jan. 1, Obamacare Forces States to Accept Applications ‘Signed’ by Voice

The push to massively expand public programs creates yet another security disaster.

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David Steinberg

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January 13, 2014 - 12:01 am
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The Obama administration’s interest in creating a streamlined application process for Medicaid, CHIP, and subsidized health insurance via the state Obamacare exchanges has come at the expense of effective security and fraud prevention.

As of January 1, 2014, this easing of requirements now includes the mandate that states accept applications completed entirely via telephone. Rather than require such applications be later accompanied by the electronic or mailed transmission of a signed document, HHS instead requires states to accept a spoken assent on a telephone call as the equivalent of an actual signature.

Says J. Christian Adams, PJ Media legal editor and former DOJ attorney:

Perjury prosecutions are impaired by telephone signups. Signing on a dotted line has been the core means of assent for hundreds of years, and even computerized signatures have a means of verifying that the person signing is real.

This is the administration inviting fraud.

The Affordable Care Act, as passed, does not mandate the acceptance of “telephonic signature.” The relevant passage — Section 1413(b)(1)(a) — only requires that applications “may be filed online, in-person, by mail, or by telephone.” Relevant regulations issued by HHS did not initially mandate telephonic signature, either. See 42 CFR 435.907, which only required “a written application from the applicant, an authorized representative, or, if the applicant is incompetent or incapacitated, someone acting responsibly for the applicant.”

However, on March 23, 2012, Section 435.907 was revised. This revised section went into effect on January 1, 2014. It included the new part (f):

(f) The agency must require that all initial applications are signed under penalty of perjury. Electronic, including telephonically recorded, signatures and handwritten signatures transmitted via any other electronic transmission must be accepted.

The comment-and-response process which resulted in the new part (f) is available here. Note that the comments include scant discussion regarding any expressed need or desire for the mandated acceptance of telephonic signatures. Part (f) simply appears later in the document, and is now in effect.

On August 9, 2013, the Center for Medicaid and CHIP Services issued a document titled “Medicaid and CHIP FAQs: Telephonic Applications.” This document included the following passage:

2. Voice Signatures: All applications must be signed (under penalty of perjury) in order to complete an eligibility determination. In the case of telephonic applications, states must have a process in place to assist individuals in applying by phone and be able to accept telephonically recorded signatures at the time of application submission. If applicable, states can maintain their current practices of audio recording and accepting voice signatures as required for identity proofing.

With this document, CMS offered guidance to the states regarding enactment. But CMS left unaddressed both the motivations behind the issuance of this regulation, and how telephonic signature can provide any level of security or fraud prevention.

Why the interest in forcing states to mandate acceptance of telephonic signatures?

Perhaps the answer lies with Enroll America, the Obamacare enrollment organization that was exposed late last year by James O’Keefe for violations of its non-profit status.

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This is unbelievable....You can't affirm something over the phone. There are public service ads that tell you to never give your personal information over the phone. Never give your SSN, date of birth or other identifying information.

This is insane.
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til I saw the receipt which had said $8602, I didn't believe that...my... friends brother was like they say actually receiving money parttime from there computar.. there mums best friend haz done this for only 7 months and by now repaid the mortgage on there cottage and bourt a new Mercedes. check star56.com
47 weeks ago
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Barry Hussein Obama has been lying all his life over everything possible.
Now he is on it again with this telefonically signing, just to lure more people in his fangs.
Get rid of Barry as soon as you see fit.
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What the Heck?!!

Can anyone say:
"FRAUDULENT applications"
"PAID telemarketer-type" phone calls?
"ROBO-CALLS" to the 800 # that will be accepted by this desperate measure to sign people up?
(especially, healthy young millenials)

Just saw the first ad today by MAGIC Johnson. A second one is planned to another NBA star, Alonzo Mourning.

Ad by these 2 athletes, paid for with tax dollars & the ACA budget for ads and commercials to CONVINCE people to sign up for the 'Affordable Care Act' medical insurance..

These ads are aimed at YOUNG ADULTS, the young & healthy, the young & invincible, the Millenials ...
.... especially MALE young adults who will be the LEAST likely to be using the new mandatory law to purchase Medical Insurance, under penalty of fines. Right off the bat we know that YOUNG MEN won't ever need 1) birth control pills. 2) maternity care but will be paying for it with their medical insurance premiums via Obamacare, or officially called by politicians distancing connection to Pres Obama... the ACA
(no longer nicknamed "Obamacare" especially since the fiasco of the launch on OCT 1 that they are still trying to sugar coat as a slow but steady growth of applicants & enrollees).

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2014/01/15/obama-magic-johnson-health-care-law-white-house-video/4489935/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/16/white-house-taps-magic-and-mourning-to-promote-obamacare/


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what a great idea. I have signed my x-wife up for the most expensive plan, 3 times. she will thank me someday. she's now an organ donor too.

what, people are worried about fraud in our gooberment at this late stage? what a hoot. I saw a sign on the driver's license bureau today that said, 'birth certificates produced here', or something of that sort. wonder does our most transparent and honorable leader know about this? maybe he can get a real ss# and draft registration letter there too.

to be fair, those obamaphones are a must for people needing a way to regularly 'reach out and touch' their drug dealer, in a monetary way of course.

btw, the pub's in the senate that keep voting for and supporting this progressive craziness are what are known as r.i.n.o.'s. they judge themselves worthy of this label by their voting pattern, and they need to be known for what they are come next election.
48 weeks ago
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Can I call to the IRS, and 'deem my taxes paid'?
48 weeks ago
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What a perfect storm of security issues. Whoops, we lost the recording.

Guess what you agreed to on the phone last week?
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So somebody could phone and claim to be me, sign me up for obamstercare, and agree to their phone signature, and I'm on the hook???
If private industry tried this, there would be hell to pay.
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David, you are 100% absolutely wrong on this one. A voice signature of your voice is far less prone to fraud than a hand signature or an electronic signature. After all an electronic signature says nothing about you other than someone who's logged into your computer, or gotten on your computer when you went to the john was able to use it to make a commitment on your behalf. No one has your voice and voice signatures are far, far less likely to fool a well configured system than a thumbprint. This is because your voice is far more complex. It's been used in a number of insurance systems and to my knowledge has never been compromised. Just because the Obami propose it doesn't mean it's wrong. See more here: www.tradeharbor.com
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And what is to stop somebody calling in and claiming to be you.
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Do you honestly believe that the government will store millions of voice signatures in case of fraud? How about all those warnings not to give out personal info over the phone? This sounds like it would be way to easy for the government to say you did when you didn't. I'm not comfortable with any contract that is not in writing and I don't have a personal copy of.
48 weeks ago
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So, people willingly agree to policies affecting the healthcare they will receive, pages of byzantine legalese, without reading the documents? They have that much faith in the assistance they are getting from Navigators?
48 weeks ago
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Its mostly for medicaid cases, they dont pay anything, so why should they be woried. Its the taxpayers who will get scammed in any fraud.
48 weeks ago
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Next up: Vote by phone.
48 weeks ago
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No big deal. This is on a par with not requiring an ID to vote.

No surprise that the Stupid Party would cave either. They are constitutionally unable to articulate the phrase "facilitates fraud". It just isn't in their vocabulary.

Progressive Education wins again!
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