Anti-Patriot Act Poster Boy Kidnaps Own Kids
Amazingly, it was those allegations of his connections to al-Qaeda that his supporters used to oppose his deportation, claiming that he would be tortured for his terrorist connections if he were returned to his native Yemen. Today Ashraf Al-Jailani is now a high-ranking Yemeni government official in the Ministry of Oil and Minerals — a previously unknown form of torture. Adding to the irony is that while Al-Jailani’s wife, Michelle Swensen, and his supporters were simultaneously raising the specter of torture in Yemen, they were simultaneously appealing to the government of Yemen to press harder for his release.
Another opportunity to protect the Al-Jailani children passed when a Portage County family court judge returned the children to their mother’s custody. They had come into the state’s care after Michelle Swensen was hospitalized for two months for severe depression. With their father in the custody of federal immigration officials and their mother in the hospital, child welfare authorities were forced to intervene and place their children in foster care, where reports indicate they thrived.
The return of the children also became part of the overarching political drama attached to the Al-Jailani case. After the children’s case worker became alarmed at the prospect that Swensen was preparing to take the children to Yemen and that she had failed to regularly take her medication, the county decided to withdraw its motion to return the children to Swensen’s care.
Immediately after the September 2004 court hearing where the court agreed with county authorities not to return the children, Swensen held a press conference on the courthouse steps attacking the child welfare case worker as anti-Muslim, as reported at the time by the Beacon Journal:
“She doesn’t like Yemen. She doesn’t like Ashraf. She doesn’t like Islam,” Swensen said. …
Swensen said everything was fine until her social worker saw that Swensen was renewing one of her daughter’s passports Sept. 8 — the same day she said she learned her husband may be deported.
The next day, Swensen said, the social worker called and told her that it wasn’t in the best interests of the children to go to Yemen and she was going to ask the county to rescind its motion to return her children home.
Swensen, 34, said she has neither the intention nor the money to take her children to Yemen. Her children have had passports since birth, she explained, and she was merely renewing one that had expired.
The case worker had legitimate concerns, as the State Department warns that Yemen is not a party to the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction. Custody disputes in Yemen are resolved by Islamic Sharia courts and children are prohibited from leaving the country without their father’s permission.
Additionally, Al-Jailani’s history of violence was a concern for immigration authorities beyond the 1999 domestic violence conviction. Evidence was presented in court from Swensen’s own online journal that he had threatened her life; at one point he had dragged her down the stairs; on another occasion he forcibly restrained her on a bed after not agreeing to what she was wearing; and he had also violated a court protection order.
Those concerns were set aside and Swensen’s attorney filed to have the case worker removed, even though as the Beacon Journal admits the case worker was among the best and most respected in the entire department. Under pressure from CAIR and local Muslim leaders and afraid of being labeled as Islamophobic, child welfare administrators quickly switched case workers — an unprecedented move — and the children were returned to Swensen. They later looked the other way and took no action when she was arrested for drunk driving.
In an email she sent to the media afterwards, Swensen crowed about getting the concerned case worker removed. “I was told that I could never get a new social worker,” she wrote, “that it’s never done, and that it would never be done. Well, it got done.” That decision to remove the case worker and return the children to Swensen would eventually prove catastrophic for Amina, Layla, and Sami.
In 2006, after Ashraf Al-Jailani’s deportation, Swensen — who promised the court that she had no ability or intention to take the children to Yemen — did exactly that for what was supposed to be a summer trip to see their father. Al-Jailani, however, refused to let them return as was his right under Yemeni law, notwithstanding Swensen’s full custody granted by U.S. courts.
According to reports from her family, Swensen — who now calls herself Mia Olsen — has unsuccessfully tried to retrieve her children from their father in Yemen. They also report that the children are regularly beaten by Al-Jailani and that he has threatened Swensen’s life if she ever returns to Yemen. It is quite possible that Swensen will never see her children again.
No doubt the saddest element in this story is that the Al-Jailani children were ultimately betrayed by their own mother, who was complicit in their abduction through her own naïveté, her willfully ignoring the danger signs of her husband’s long history of violence, and her voluntary decision to take them to Yemen against all advice. Her accomplices were all of those organizations and media outlets that used Al-Jailani’s case to their own benefit, even exploiting the children by constantly citing the children’s inability to see their father. Now that their anti-Patriot Act poster boy has abducted the very children they used for their own agendas, their deliberate silence, inaction, and apparent utter lack of concern for the children’s welfare only compound their treachery.
Artical.
I’m not surprised that the children in this case seemed an absolute non-factor in ACLU, CAIR and worst of all the mother’s minds. The exception being Child Welfare who rightly removed them from such an abusive and unstable home.
The mother’s sheer stupidity put her children in the danger they are now. She put these kids second to her’s and her husband’s political agenda. She got what she deserved, good luck trying to get children back from Islam. ACLU: “Children? What children?” The father got what he wanted. CAIR got to showcase their services to other Islamic deviants in need. The children as usual, lost.
Why is it social agencies, and most US governments for that matter, feel they have to bend to Islam’s claims of privilege? Had this clown been some fundamentalist Mormon, or 60′s hippie, does anyone doubt he would have gotten short shrift? We are supposed to have separation of church and state – but not, apparently in Ohio, when it comes to Islam. Of course, the idiots who allowed the return of the children to their mother have no idea as to what Islam is all about. They don’t know that it is a complete socio-economic-political construct in which the male is supreme. The 12 year old has, quite likely, been married off by now to one of the father’s relatives; the 10 year old won’t be far behind. Recall that Mohammad married Aisha when she was six and consumated the marriage when Aisha was nine. Fact. Because Mohammad did it this is now considered acceptable in most Muslim states.
The ACLU protecting children? They do that how, by defending NAMBLA to the teeth.
While I certainly can understand and completely empathize with any woman who enters into a relationship with a man who at first is kind and sweet and then turns into a deranged, jealous, abusive animal, I cannot for the life of me understand any sane western woman entering into a relationship with a Muslim man. This sad story is repeated case after case, year after year. Even lefty Sally Field starred in “Not Without My Children” (albeit before Hollywood went off the deep end into agit-prop land). Now of course, not every Muslim male is a psycho wife/child abuser, but knowing about the now well-documented misogyny and hatred in that world, I would think that any reasonably intelligent woman would think twice before going down that road.
Sad.
Ahh yes, the “Religion of Peace” proving yet again it is hands down the religious world leaders when it comes misogynistic and oppressive behavior. That said, is there anyway to deport Mia Olsen or whatever name she goes by now? If not, can the courts force a hysterectomy on her? Obviously this woman shouldn’t have goldfish let alone children. We simply can’t have her breeding anymore
The movie was “Not Without My Daughter”, but yes, you are correct. I would say, it isn’t a good idea for western women to marry a man from any place that doesn’t consider women equal. I wouldn’t marry anyone from Asia, South America, Eastern Europe, or the Middle East. It isn’t just Muslim guys.Most of my collegues are Iranian and married American women and never stole there kids, but who knows. They stayed happily married. Maybe things would be different if they divorced.
This is just another case in a long line of tragic cases where children are the victims of Islamic violence and foolish Western political correctness.
This happens all the time in Saudi Arabia and other Muslims countrues. Their government even forced the US State Dept to take down a warning about child abduction and the lack of rights of non-Muslims. I made a copy years ago and kept it.
http://www.kactuzkid.com/marriage.html
Kactuz
Incomplete, out of order, and in one instance, out of date. This article barely touches the surface of their story. It fails to mention a man (That is Ashraf himself) who has the ability to make people believe his lies and be very convincing. The man she married never existed, for it was only the devil in disguise. Al-Jailani was taken into custody at his place of work, GOJO, accused of connections to Al-quada, and even when not enough proof was presented to convict, was held in jail for 4 years. The FBI had gotten their revenge when Swensen did not sign a paper to totally withdraw support from Al-Jailani. Her lawyer had been informed that the children where in foster care, one day before they had even been taken. Then they were. Only after that had she been hospitalized for depression. Can this be why she doesn’t trust them or the state? Once Swensen and the children arrived in Yemen, she was fully introduced to the laws of Yemen and made totally aware of the situation. Swensen continues to love her children and fight for them as much as she can. Yes she made mistakes. Yes she made bad choices. Swensen has had that battle with herself. Yes the road to hell is paved with good intentions. Throw the first stone my friends. Welcome to being human. Despite bad decisions and loss of years with the children, I only hope they are reunited with their mother, out of reach and clutches of the father.
“Yes she made bad choices.”
Well, yeah.
And how, precisely, even might they be reiunited with their mother?
Nope. By sending them off to Yemen, Swenson sealed their fate, and the only thing she has to offer anybody else is a bad example.
One can hope. Do you like taking hope away? I sure don’t. Unless you’re one of them.
Hope is sometimes all we have in bad situations. I am sure everyone would agree who have been in such situations that anyone who tells them something, no matter how much sense it makes, to go to hell. There’s always a way. This goes for just about any situation really. But then there are those of us who want to keep hammering that nail to enforce their beliefs on others. Much like one religion to another.
Sure, I’m into hope and change and all that cool stuff.
But, even were I into promoting a lack of obvious, foreseeable consequences, it wouldn’t do me any good, or Swensen.
A final note: The 2nd page, 14th paragraph, states “According to reports from her family”. What family? Swensen seperated from her foster family when she was 17 to find her biological father at age 21. Who has since passed in 2006. Now only knowing very few, who would contact her first before ever discussing such matters. Which was not very public. As usual, Swensen is still haunted by the Patriot Act.
Sorry, Jet, but your narrative doesn’t represent reality. Deporation proceedings against Al-Jailani began long before 9/11 and any terrorism accusations, and he was held for 4 years because he was fighting deportation. While the immigration judge ordered that he be freed, the judge’s ruling was overturned in EVERY instance on appeal. There was no illegal detention as you seem to imply. If he didn’t like the process, he shouldn’t have pled guilty to beating his wife.
And there will be no tears for Swensen. She knew his history of violence and yet defended him at every turn. And when the one lone voice of reason – the case worker – tried to stop this tragedy from happening, Swensen publicly launched into all kinds of baseless accusations against the case worker and tried to destroy her career. Swensen can’t claim that she didn’t know what would happen when she got to Yemen – the family court had already told her what would happen and delayed reunification on that basis. She lied to the court and the papers when she said she had no intention or ability to take them to Yemen (read the media accounts!). And yet she did. And her children are paying the cold, hard price for her willful neglect. Amina, Layla and Sami needed their mother to protect them, and she knowingly and willingly betrayed them. You can’t honestly claim ignorance on her behalf.
Independent leftist here, who got out of the left parties because of their pandering to Islam, pedophilia, misogyny,
the mother should be Jailed for Child Abuse. And those who assisted her,
also, for contribution to child abuse. Every single one of them. The United States should bring up charges for child trafficking because these girls will be sold to men, which Is a form of trafficking.
That and the child abuse and therefore those lawyers, leftists, feminists, academics, who publicly helped raised money for this child abuser should be charged. Because they were complicit as well as the mother,
and as far as I’m concerned, the Mother, because she aided in this, should be charged with contributing to kidnapping and child abuse. And here is why,
we need to send a Strong message to those cultural relativists that IF they contribute to the abuse and/or sale of children, especially knowing that the girls are going to be sold into marriages with pedophiles,
then they should be charged with willing contribution of child abuse and violating the Human Rights of the Child, because it needs to be confronted and taken on.
And exposed,
there should be zero tolerance for multiculturalism that is on the backs of little children’s bodies.
No exceptions. This is Why we do need a strong Bill of Children’s Rights, while yes there is that danger of a Nanny State [and there should be some clauses included to protect from such abuses], if there Was a Bill of Children’s Rights we could then Hold these people who blatantly abuse and sexually abuse children to the full extent of the law even outside of our borders.
And we Need to start going after those alliances and groups who pander to CHILD ABUSE, including LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THEM because in their cultural relativism THEY ARE IN FACT ABUSING CHILDREN PSYCHICALLY AND SEXUALLY.
And the FAR LEFT is notorious for protecting child sex abuse, Ortega himself is being protected after his own DAUGHTER came forward with charges about his raping her for years,
We need to EXPOSE the TOLERANCE AND CONDONING OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE BY THOSE GROUPS THAT ARE SO GUNG HO ON CULTURAL RELATIVISM BECAUSE THEY ARE,
CHILD ABUSERS.
no ands, ifs, or’s, buts, about it.
Swensen should be charged and arrested for endangering three children, and for contribution of child abuse, child sexual abuse, and sentenced to the full extent of the law.
And IF I was a prosecutor I’d be more than happy to bring up the charges myself.
And I AM A LEFTIST.
STATING THAT FOR THE RECORD, AND A FEMINIST.
I would love nothing more than to expose the pedophile and child raping supporters in the far left Stalinist and Maoists and Socialist camps…not only that, but their tolerance and condoning of prostitution including TRAFFICKED SEX SLAVES and I would strongly suggest someone do some serious investigation as to where some of their party platform monies come from,
especially those donations from those very economies that are black market dependent on SEX SLAVERY.
They are the WORST IMPERIALISTS there ever was, except they build their IMPERIALISM ON SEX SLAVES AND SLAVES. Start Exposing that–using Their leftist Marxist logic to do so…
I’d be more than happy to assist.
Natasha
Director of WAMI
Women Against Misogynist Imperialism
As much as a lot of people of the States would like to pull an iron fist of rule on the whole of the world, it’s just wishful thinking. In their eyes, who are we to judge thousands of years of culture? Not that I agree with child trafficking or marriage at such a young age. But I can not help but think you can not be serious. She is to be charged with the children’s abuse, and sexual abuse? On what grounds? By this you may as well include the US Embassy based in Sana’a, Yemen. Whom refused to help return the children depspit their finds of abuse on them. The US Embassy willfully destroyed the one month old passports for the children, classifying them as “spoiled” and refused replacement. They know fully well even more so than Swensen about how things run there. Want to fix the world? Start at home.
Nah, Jet, your friend isn’t going to be charged with anything. She’s just going to have to live with her conscience — I’m assuming that, err, she has one — telling her that if she’d only listened to sensible people — and, yes, the governmental folks she was refusing to listen to were, demonstrably, giving her sensible advice — she wouldn’t have handed her kids off to this guy.
I feel sorry for the kids, mind you, and would love to see them rescued. But that’s not going to happen. State doesn’t have the juice in Yemen to spring them, and, even if they did, they wouldn’t spend it — far too many future State retirees would lose their cushy jobs working for Arab countries — and there’s no private agency that she could possibly afford that even might be able to do it (and, of course, that would mean violating a whole bunch of laws, as it is).
Want to fix the world? Start with persuading your friend Swensen that it wasn’t just a matter of a single, deceptive guy, but of a culture that treats children as the father’s chattel.
Lots of luck.
OK. Jet has exposed his/her utter detachment from reality. The US Embassy destroyed their passports, eh? Right.
If Jet is as close to this situation as he/she represents, you don’t need to believe in any government conspiracy to realize how these children ended up abducted in the first place – stupid adults blinded by their bats**t crazy ideology. As Joel says, lots of luck with that. I suspect the rest of us back here on Planet Earth feel truly sorry for the Al-Jailani children, but not the slightest bit of pity for the idiots who are directly responsible for getting these children into this situation in the first place.
The mother has always been mentally unstable. That explains her marriage to a sociopath and her servile devotion to her violent extremist husband to the ruin of her own children. She will continue to make poor decisions and exercise poor judgment, for that is how her mind works.
Muslim immigration brings nothing but trouble to non-Muslims countries. They do not belong here.
It is time to end all Muslim immigration.
For more on the subject.
http://www.islaminaction08.blogspot.com
Yes Jet I am serious, and I’ll answer you, FROM a leftist perspective and using Leftist logic, I’ll prove to you just how idiotic the typical distortion of leftist polemic and Why it is nothing but neo-liberal Bourgeoisie uh, whats that term the left uses so much, ah, thats right, IMPERIALISM.
[and why any true worker with any sense would avoid the now day Stalinist-Maoist BOURGEOISIE logic like the plague, you're better off under capitalism--take it from a peasant who learned the hard way]
YOU SAY: She is to be charged with the children’s abuse, and sexual abuse? On what grounds?
I SAY: SIMPLE, ON THE GROUNDS OF UNITED STATES LAW, THIS ISN’T YEMEN, THIS IS AMERICA, SHE CONTRIBUTED TO THE ABUSE AND ABDUCTION KNOWING FULL WELL THE KNOWLEDGE OF ENDANGERMENT AND SHE STILL CO-CONSPIRED AND ASSISTED TO THOSE CHILDREN’S DEMISE–ON UNITED STATES SOIL,
SO AS A CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY UNDER THESE LAWS, NOT SHARIA, SHE IS ACCOUNTABLE. NO ANDS, IFS, OR’S, BUTS ABOUT IT.
AS for those in Yemen, they are in Yemen, IF that is true, then there should be repercussions, but before you are so Quick to Judge the American Embassies, take a damn good look at your Leftist Nation thugs who in the United Nations have all but said that women’s rights don’t mean squat in this day and age and loe and behold A HOLOCAUST AGAINST THE SUDANESE CIVILIAN IS TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE,
ANYTHING SLAVERY, ABUSE, CHILD ABUSE, UNDER SHARIA IS NOT TO BE CONDEMNED,
how nice. WHY NOT BRING BACK THE MEDIEVAL PAPACY TOO SIR AND BRING BACK THE INQUISITION AND LETS START BURNING WITCHES,
AFTER ALL, THAT IS WHAT MARX WANTED CORRECT? A RETURN TO THE OPIATE AND TO SERFDOM AND FEUDALISM?
According to our good ole Maoist-thugs and Stalinist thugs of today thats EXACTLY what we’re supposed to be fighting for, of course, ridding the world of the evil US imperialist empire…
give me a break. Seriously, even using Marxist logic, the left today is so full of kaka bullshit its not even funny.
And why I will continue to confront their BOURGEOISIE CAPITALIST LOVING FILTH and EXPOSE THEM AT EVERY TURN…
AS WELL AS THEIR SERFDOM KINGDOM OF SLAVERY TSARIST OPIATE THUGS THEY SO LOVE TO LIE IN BED WITH.
how’s That for solidarity,
comrade.
Natasha
Director of WAMI
Dissenting Leftist diabolically opposed to the Tsarist Islamist OPIATE.
As much as a lot of people of the States would like to pull an iron fist of rule on the whole of the world, it’s just wishful thinking. In their eyes, who are we to judge thousands of years of culture?
I SAY: As much as a lot of OPIATE FOLLOWERS of THE WORLD would like to pull an iron fist on the whole world and throw us into the plunge of MEDIEVAL DARK AGE FEUDALIST IMPERIALISM, who in our eyes, are they to judge thousands of years of HUMAN DEVELOPMENT, A.K.A., DIALECTS, AND PROGRESS?
Only difference is The OPIATE OF THE DARK AGES isn’t just wishful thinking–that Iron Fist of Islamofascism because not only do they Judge, they manifest that judgment daily by forced conversions, forced compliance to their OPIATE, and forced JIZYA [serfdom tax] to their FEUDALIST IMPERIALIST EMPIRES.
I think Castro summed it up nicely, how that IMPERIALISM WORKS, lets see if we can see some similarites, eh, comrade,
ah, of course, in his very own “The Universal Conscience” Speech to the Cultural Congress of Havanna,
in which he says, and I quote:
“This universal conscience has grown on a par with the spirit of aggression, the acts of oppression and SUBJUGATION, and the threats that hang over humanity.”
Gee, now I suppose that today could mean, the universal conscience of thousands of WOMEN, WHO ARE WORKERS ACCORDING TO ‘LEFT LOGIC’ who are rising up or attempting to DUE TO THE ACTS OF MISOGYNIST AGGRESSION, AGAINST THE ACTS OF OPPRESSION, AND OOH, WHATS THAT TERM, SUBJUGATION, AND THE THREATS THAT HANG OVER HUMANITY”,
AND WHAT IS THAT THREAT? SHARIA, POLITICAL ISLAM, MEDIEVAL DARK AGE ‘SERFDOM’.
Castro goes on to say, “There are some things before which no one with a modicum of conscience, no one with human sentiments or feelings of justice can remain unmoved”,
and on THAT, that would INCLUDE CONSCIENCE THAT SAYS RAPING A CHILD OR ABUSING A CHILD IS WRONG. TO HELL WITH CULTURE THAT SAYS IT IS NOT–BECAUSE EVEN IN THOSE CULTURES THERE IS RESISTANCE, EVERY DAY, TO THESE BARBARIC ACTS,
if there were NOT resistance then there would be no NEED for the STATES OF TERROR to imprison thousands under those CULTURES YOU CLAIM and there would be no NEED for the STATES OF TERROR AND IMPERIALISM to kill/butcher/rape/torture/EXPAND their rule if all the CITIZENS,
ASSENTING TO THAT ‘CULTURE’.
Now would there?
Castro goes on to say, “It is logical, LOGICAL, that humanity should be CONCERNED when it sees such TREMENDOUS FORCES ADVANCING ALONG THE SAME ROAD”, and he is referring to western imperialism, Vietnam and the comparisons to Hitler,
they like to twist things like that, so, taking Their logic,
its just as easily applied IN TRUTH against the most IMPERIALISTIC AND CAPITALIST AND EXPANSIONIST OPIATE IN OUR WORLD TODAY–ISLAMISM.
YOU SAY: Not that I agree with child trafficking or marriage at such a young age. But I can not help but think you can not be serious.
I SAY: yes the typical I don’t agree BUT, well, taking that logic then, lets say,
back five hundred years ago, many didn’t agree with slavery of African Americans in America, but hey, those abolitionists now just Couldn’t be serious now about actually Doing something to end slavery, why after All!!! ITS SOUTHERN CULTURE AND WELL, HEY, IT WAS ARABIC ISLAMIC CULTURE TOO, BACK IN THE DAY, JUST ASK THE OLD SLAVE BUYERS IN THOSE EARLY COLONIES, AND BY GOLLY, JUST WHO DO THOSE IMPERIALIST YANKEES THINK THEY ARE BY COMING TO OUR SOIL AND DEMANDING THAT WE STOP BEATIN THE NIGGA AND RAPING THE NIGGA, WHY ITS OUR CULTURE, OUR PROPERTY AND BY GOLLY WE’VE BEEN JUST FINE DOING THIS FOR YEARS SO OFF YOU GO YANKEE BOY…
now gee, kind of Offensive now isn’t it Sir? But you see taking your logic, why we just sit here and sip our tea in the Southern sun celebrating our rights to Culture because you know back in those days the nigga was inferior and sub-human and in Islam women are inferior and sub-human too and children girl children as well so who are we, would you like some more tea hon, who are we to judge and demand that that slavery should be abolished in America? And who are we to demand that our morals are right and theirs is wrong, and besides, why I don’t really like slavery sir and I sures don’t like hearing them boys scream as they gettin they lashings but you know, flicker the fan, oh this Southern heat, but ya know thats just how it is and its how God has declared it and besides those savages are just that way, and we just just let things be as they are…
OFFENSIVE AS HELL ISN’T IT BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS THE SAME LOGIC THE CULTURAL RELATIVISTS ARE USING TODAY TO PROP UP AND PROTECT AND CONCEAL AND TO TOLERATE THE MOST BARBARIC ACTS OF SLAVERY AND BRUTALIZATION AND TREATING HUMAN BEINGS AS INFERIOR AND AS SUB HUMANS BECAUSE IN THEIR CULTURE, THEIR MINDS, THEIR RELIGION, THEY ARE SUPREMACISTS AND BY GOLLY WHO ARE WE AMERICANS, WE YANKEES OF THE WORLD TO SAY ANTHING
AND BY GOLLY WHO ARE WE YANKEES TO SAY A DAMN THING ABOUT THE SLAVERY GOING ON IN OUR NATION TODAY, BY THOSE BARBARIC CULTURAL PRACTICES, THOSE GENDER JIM CROW LAWS THAT WE ARE TOLERATING IN OUR OWN BACK YARD?
But you don’t like it…you Betcha I’m serious, just as serious as the abolitionists were in that day because in THIS COUNTRY
EVERY MAN AND WOMAN IS EQUAL AND HAS RIGHTS, AND AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED THAT INCLUDES CHILDREN.
YOU SAY: She is to be charged with the children’s abuse, and sexual abuse? On what grounds? By this you may as well include the US Embassy based in Sana’a, Yemen. Whom refused to help return the children depspit their finds of abuse on them. The US Embassy willfully destroyed the one month old passports for the children, classifying them as “spoiled” and refused replacement. They know fully well even more so than Swensen about how things run there. Want to fix the world? Start at home.
resubmitting this twice, due to some parts being switched around during editing…
Yes Jet I am serious, and I’ll answer you, FROM a leftist perspective and using Leftist logic, I’ll prove to you just how idiotic the typical distortion of leftist polemic and Why it is nothing but neo-liberal Bourgeoisie uh, whats that term the left uses so much, ah, thats right, IMPERIALISM.
[and why any true worker with any sense would avoid the now day Stalinist-Maoist BOURGEOISIE logic like the plague, you're better off under capitalism--take it from a peasant who learned the hard way]
YOU SAY: As much as a lot of people of the States would like to pull an iron fist of rule on the whole of the world, it’s just wishful thinking. In their eyes, who are we to judge thousands of years of culture?
I SAY: As much as a lot of OPIATE FOLLOWERS of THE WORLD would like to pull an iron fist on the whole world and throw us into the plunge of MEDIEVAL DARK AGE FEUDALIST IMPERIALISM, who in our eyes, are they to judge thousands of years of HUMAN DEVELOPMENT, A.K.A., DIALECTS, AND PROGRESS?
Only difference is The OPIATE OF THE DARK AGES isn’t just wishful thinking–that Iron Fist of Islamofascism because not only do they Judge, they manifest that judgment daily by forced conversions, forced compliance to their OPIATE, and forced JIZYA [serfdom tax] to their FEUDALIST IMPERIALIST EMPIRES.
I think Castro summed it up nicely, how that IMPERIALISM WORKS, lets see if we can see some similarites, eh, comrade,
ah, of course, in his very own “The Universal Conscience” Speech to the Cultural Congress of Havanna,
in which he says, and I quote:
“This universal conscience has grown on a par with the spirit of aggression, the acts of oppression and SUBJUGATION, and the threats that hang over humanity.”
Gee, now I suppose that today could mean, the universal conscience of thousands of WOMEN, WHO ARE WORKERS ACCORDING TO ‘LEFT LOGIC’ who are rising up or attempting to DUE TO THE ACTS OF MISOGYNIST AGGRESSION, AGAINST THE ACTS OF OPPRESSION, AND OOH, WHATS THAT TERM, SUBJUGATION, AND THE THREATS THAT HANG OVER HUMANITY”,
AND WHAT IS THAT THREAT? SHARIA, POLITICAL ISLAM, MEDIEVAL DARK AGE ‘SERFDOM’.
Castro goes on to say, “There are some things before which no one with a modicum of conscience, no one with human sentiments or feelings of justice can remain unmoved”,
and on THAT, that would INCLUDE CONSCIENCE THAT SAYS RAPING A CHILD OR ABUSING A CHILD IS WRONG. TO HELL WITH CULTURE THAT SAYS IT IS NOT–BECAUSE EVEN IN THOSE CULTURES THERE IS RESISTANCE, EVERY DAY, TO THESE BARBARIC ACTS,
if there were NOT resistance then there would be no NEED for the STATES OF TERROR to imprison thousands under those CULTURES YOU CLAIM and there would be no NEED for the STATES OF TERROR AND IMPERIALISM to kill/butcher/rape/torture/EXPAND their rule if all the CITIZENS,
ASSENTING TO THAT ‘CULTURE’.
Now would there?
Castro goes on to say, “It is logical, LOGICAL, that humanity should be CONCERNED when it sees such TREMENDOUS FORCES ADVANCING ALONG THE SAME ROAD”, and he is referring to western imperialism, Vietnam and the comparisons to Hitler,
they like to twist things like that, so, taking Their logic,
its just as easily applied IN TRUTH against the most IMPERIALISTIC AND CAPITALIST AND EXPANSIONIST OPIATE IN OUR WORLD TODAY–ISLAMISM.
YOU SAY: Not that I agree with child trafficking or marriage at such a young age. But I can not help but think you can not be serious.
I SAY: yes the typical I don’t agree BUT, well, taking that logic then, lets say,
back five hundred years ago, many didn’t agree with slavery of African Americans in America, but hey, those abolitionists now just Couldn’t be serious now about actually Doing something to end slavery, why after All!!! ITS SOUTHERN CULTURE AND WELL, HEY, IT WAS ARABIC ISLAMIC CULTURE TOO, BACK IN THE DAY, JUST ASK THE OLD SLAVE BUYERS IN THOSE EARLY COLONIES, AND BY GOLLY, JUST WHO DO THOSE IMPERIALIST YANKEES THINK THEY ARE BY COMING TO OUR SOIL AND DEMANDING THAT WE STOP BEATIN THE NIGGA AND RAPING THE NIGGA, WHY ITS OUR CULTURE, OUR PROPERTY AND BY GOLLY WE’VE BEEN JUST FINE DOING THIS FOR YEARS SO OFF YOU GO YANKEE BOY…
now gee, kind of Offensive now isn’t it Sir? But you see taking your logic, why we just sit here and sip our tea in the Southern sun celebrating our rights to Culture because you know back in those days the nigga was inferior and sub-human and in Islam women are inferior and sub-human too and children girl children as well so who are we, would you like some more tea hon, who are we to judge and demand that that slavery should be abolished in America? And who are we to demand that our morals are right and theirs is wrong, and besides, why I don’t really like slavery sir and I sures don’t like hearing them boys scream as they gettin they lashings but you know, flicker the fan, oh this Southern heat, but ya know thats just how it is and its how God has declared it and besides those savages are just that way, and we just just let things be as they are…
OFFENSIVE AS HELL ISN’T IT BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS THE SAME LOGIC THE CULTURAL RELATIVISTS ARE USING TODAY TO PROP UP AND PROTECT AND CONCEAL AND TO TOLERATE THE MOST BARBARIC ACTS OF SLAVERY AND BRUTALIZATION AND TREATING HUMAN BEINGS AS INFERIOR AND AS SUB HUMANS BECAUSE IN THEIR CULTURE, THEIR MINDS, THEIR RELIGION, THEY ARE SUPREMACISTS AND BY GOLLY WHO ARE WE AMERICANS, WE YANKEES OF THE WORLD TO SAY ANTHING
AND BY GOLLY WHO ARE WE YANKEES TO SAY A DAMN THING ABOUT THE SLAVERY GOING ON IN OUR NATION TODAY, BY THOSE BARBARIC CULTURAL PRACTICES, THOSE GENDER JIM CROW LAWS THAT WE ARE TOLERATING IN OUR OWN BACK YARD?
But you don’t like it…you Betcha I’m serious, just as serious as the abolitionists were in that day because in THIS COUNTRY
EVERY MAN AND WOMAN IS EQUAL AND HAS RIGHTS, AND AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED THAT INCLUDES CHILDREN.
YOU SAY: She is to be charged with the children’s abuse, and sexual abuse? On what grounds? By this you may as well include the US Embassy based in Sana’a, Yemen. Whom refused to help return the children depspit their finds of abuse on them. The US Embassy willfully destroyed the one month old passports for the children, classifying them as “spoiled” and refused replacement. They know fully well even more so than Swensen about how things run there. Want to fix the world? Start at home.
YOU SAY: She is to be charged with the children’s abuse, and sexual abuse? On what grounds?
I SAY: SIMPLE, ON THE GROUNDS OF UNITED STATES LAW, THIS ISN’T YEMEN, THIS IS AMERICA, SHE CONTRIBUTED TO THE ABUSE AND ABDUCTION KNOWING FULL WELL THE KNOWLEDGE OF ENDANGERMENT AND SHE STILL CO-CONSPIRED AND ASSISTED TO THOSE CHILDREN’S DEMISE–ON UNITED STATES SOIL,
SO AS A CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY UNDER THESE LAWS, NOT SHARIA, SHE IS ACCOUNTABLE. NO ANDS, IFS, OR’S, BUTS ABOUT IT.
AS for those in Yemen, they are in Yemen, IF that is true, then there should be repercussions, but before you are so Quick to Judge the American Embassies, take a damn good look at your Leftist Nation thugs who in the United Nations have all but said that women’s rights don’t mean squat in this day and age and loe and behold A HOLOCAUST AGAINST THE SUDANESE CIVILIAN IS TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE,
ANYTHING SLAVERY, ABUSE, CHILD ABUSE, UNDER SHARIA IS NOT TO BE CONDEMNED,
how nice. WHY NOT BRING BACK THE MEDIEVAL PAPACY TOO SIR AND BRING BACK THE INQUISITION AND LETS START BURNING WITCHES,
AFTER ALL, THAT IS WHAT MARX WANTED CORRECT? A RETURN TO THE OPIATE AND TO SERFDOM AND FEUDALISM?
According to our good ole Maoist-thugs and Stalinist thugs of today thats EXACTLY what we’re supposed to be fighting for, of course, ridding the world of the evil US imperialist empire…
give me a break. Seriously, even using Marxist logic, the left today is so full of kaka bullshit its not even funny.
And why I will continue to confront their BOURGEOISIE CAPITALIST LOVING FILTH and EXPOSE THEM AT EVERY TURN…
AS WELL AS THEIR SERFDOM KINGDOM OF SLAVERY TSARIST OPIATE THUGS THEY SO LOVE TO LIE IN BED WITH.
how’s That for solidarity,
comrade.
Natasha
Director of WAMI
Dissenting Leftist diabolically opposed to the Tsarist Islamist OPIATE.
RESENDING THIS AGAIN,resubmitting this twice, due to some parts being switched around during editing…
Yes Jet I am serious, and I’ll answer you, FROM a leftist perspective and using Leftist logic, I’ll prove to you just how idiotic the typical distortion of leftist polemic and Why it is nothing but neo-liberal Bourgeoisie uh, whats that term the left uses so much, ah, thats right, IMPERIALISM.
[and why any true worker with any sense would avoid the now day Stalinist-Maoist BOURGEOISIE logic like the plague, you're better off under capitalism--take it from a peasant who learned the hard way]
YOU SAY: As much as a lot of people of the States would like to pull an iron fist of rule on the whole of the world, it’s just wishful thinking. In their eyes, who are we to judge thousands of years of culture?
I SAY: As much as a lot of OPIATE FOLLOWERS of THE WORLD would like to pull an iron fist on the whole world and throw us into the plunge of MEDIEVAL DARK AGE FEUDALIST IMPERIALISM, who in our eyes, are they to judge thousands of years of HUMAN DEVELOPMENT, A.K.A., DIALECTS, AND PROGRESS?
Only difference is The OPIATE OF THE DARK AGES isn’t just wishful thinking–that Iron Fist of Islamofascism because not only do they Judge, they manifest that judgment daily by forced conversions, forced compliance to their OPIATE, and forced JIZYA [serfdom tax] to their FEUDALIST IMPERIALIST EMPIRES.
I think Castro summed it up nicely, how that IMPERIALISM WORKS, lets see if we can see some similarites, eh, comrade,
ah, of course, in his very own “The Universal Conscience” Speech to the Cultural Congress of Havanna,
in which he says, and I quote:
“This universal conscience has grown on a par with the spirit of aggression, the acts of oppression and SUBJUGATION, and the threats that hang over humanity.”
Gee, now I suppose that today could mean, the universal conscience of thousands of WOMEN, WHO ARE WORKERS ACCORDING TO ‘LEFT LOGIC’ who are rising up or attempting to DUE TO THE ACTS OF MISOGYNIST AGGRESSION, AGAINST THE ACTS OF OPPRESSION, AND OOH, WHATS THAT TERM, SUBJUGATION, AND THE THREATS THAT HANG OVER HUMANITY”,
AND WHAT IS THAT THREAT? SHARIA, POLITICAL ISLAM, MEDIEVAL DARK AGE ‘SERFDOM’.
Castro goes on to say, “There are some things before which no one with a modicum of conscience, no one with human sentiments or feelings of justice can remain unmoved”,
and on THAT, that would INCLUDE CONSCIENCE THAT SAYS RAPING A CHILD OR ABUSING A CHILD IS WRONG. TO HELL WITH CULTURE THAT SAYS IT IS NOT–BECAUSE EVEN IN THOSE CULTURES THERE IS RESISTANCE, EVERY DAY, TO THESE BARBARIC ACTS,
if there were NOT resistance then there would be no NEED for the STATES OF TERROR to imprison thousands under those CULTURES YOU CLAIM and there would be no NEED for the STATES OF TERROR AND IMPERIALISM to kill/butcher/rape/torture/EXPAND their rule if all the CITIZENS,
ASSENTING TO THAT ‘CULTURE’.
Now would there?
Castro goes on to say, “It is logical, LOGICAL, that humanity should be CONCERNED when it sees such TREMENDOUS FORCES ADVANCING ALONG THE SAME ROAD”, and he is referring to western imperialism, Vietnam and the comparisons to Hitler,
they like to twist things like that, so, taking Their logic,
its just as easily applied IN TRUTH against the most IMPERIALISTIC AND CAPITALIST AND EXPANSIONIST OPIATE IN OUR WORLD TODAY–ISLAMISM.
YOU SAY: Not that I agree with child trafficking or marriage at such a young age. But I can not help but think you can not be serious.
I SAY: yes the typical I don’t agree BUT, well, taking that logic then, lets say,
back five hundred years ago, many didn’t agree with slavery of African Americans in America, but hey, those abolitionists now just Couldn’t be serious now about actually Doing something to end slavery, why after All!!! ITS SOUTHERN CULTURE AND WELL, HEY, IT WAS ARABIC ISLAMIC CULTURE TOO, BACK IN THE DAY, JUST ASK THE OLD SLAVE BUYERS IN THOSE EARLY COLONIES, AND BY GOLLY, JUST WHO DO THOSE IMPERIALIST YANKEES THINK THEY ARE BY COMING TO OUR SOIL AND DEMANDING THAT WE STOP BEATIN THE NIGGA AND RAPING THE NIGGA, WHY ITS OUR CULTURE, OUR PROPERTY AND BY GOLLY WE’VE BEEN JUST FINE DOING THIS FOR YEARS SO OFF YOU GO YANKEE BOY…
now gee, kind of Offensive now isn’t it Sir? But you see taking your logic, why we just sit here and sip our tea in the Southern sun celebrating our rights to Culture because you know back in those days the nigga was inferior and sub-human and in Islam women are inferior and sub-human too and children girl children as well so who are we, would you like some more tea hon, who are we to judge and demand that that slavery should be abolished in America? And who are we to demand that our morals are right and theirs is wrong, and besides, why I don’t really like slavery sir and I sures don’t like hearing them boys scream as they gettin they lashings but you know, flicker the fan, oh this Southern heat, but ya know thats just how it is and its how God has declared it and besides those savages are just that way, and we just just let things be as they are…
OFFENSIVE AS HELL ISN’T IT BUT YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS THE SAME LOGIC THE CULTURAL RELATIVISTS ARE USING TODAY TO PROP UP AND PROTECT AND CONCEAL AND TO TOLERATE THE MOST BARBARIC ACTS OF SLAVERY AND BRUTALIZATION AND TREATING HUMAN BEINGS AS INFERIOR AND AS SUB HUMANS BECAUSE IN THEIR CULTURE, THEIR MINDS, THEIR RELIGION, THEY ARE SUPREMACISTS AND BY GOLLY WHO ARE WE AMERICANS, WE YANKEES OF THE WORLD TO SAY ANTHING
AND BY GOLLY WHO ARE WE YANKEES TO SAY A DAMN THING ABOUT THE SLAVERY GOING ON IN OUR NATION TODAY, BY THOSE BARBARIC CULTURAL PRACTICES, THOSE GENDER JIM CROW LAWS THAT WE ARE TOLERATING IN OUR OWN BACK YARD?
But you don’t like it…you Betcha I’m serious, just as serious as the abolitionists were in that day because in THIS COUNTRY
EVERY MAN AND WOMAN IS EQUAL AND HAS RIGHTS, AND AS FAR AS I’M CONCERNED THAT INCLUDES CHILDREN.
YOU SAY: She is to be charged with the children’s abuse, and sexual abuse? On what grounds? By this you may as well include the US Embassy based in Sana’a, Yemen. Whom refused to help return the children depspit their finds of abuse on them. The US Embassy willfully destroyed the one month old passports for the children, classifying them as “spoiled” and refused replacement. They know fully well even more so than Swensen about how things run there. Want to fix the world? Start at home.
YOU SAY: She is to be charged with the children’s abuse, and sexual abuse? On what grounds?
I SAY: SIMPLE, ON THE GROUNDS OF UNITED STATES LAW, THIS ISN’T YEMEN, THIS IS AMERICA, SHE CONTRIBUTED TO THE ABUSE AND ABDUCTION KNOWING FULL WELL THE KNOWLEDGE OF ENDANGERMENT AND SHE STILL CO-CONSPIRED AND ASSISTED TO THOSE CHILDREN’S DEMISE–ON UNITED STATES SOIL,
SO AS A CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY UNDER THESE LAWS, NOT SHARIA, SHE IS ACCOUNTABLE. NO ANDS, IFS, OR’S, BUTS ABOUT IT.
AS for those in Yemen, they are in Yemen, IF that is true, then there should be repercussions, but before you are so Quick to Judge the American Embassies, take a damn good look at your Leftist Nation thugs who in the United Nations have all but said that women’s rights don’t mean squat in this day and age and loe and behold A HOLOCAUST AGAINST THE SUDANESE CIVILIAN IS TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE,
ANYTHING SLAVERY, ABUSE, CHILD ABUSE, UNDER SHARIA IS NOT TO BE CONDEMNED,
how nice. WHY NOT BRING BACK THE MEDIEVAL PAPACY TOO SIR AND BRING BACK THE INQUISITION AND LETS START BURNING WITCHES,
AFTER ALL, THAT IS WHAT MARX WANTED CORRECT? A RETURN TO THE OPIATE AND TO SERFDOM AND FEUDALISM?
According to our good ole Maoist-thugs and Stalinist thugs of today thats EXACTLY what we’re supposed to be fighting for, of course, ridding the world of the evil US imperialist empire…
give me a break. Seriously, even using Marxist logic, the left today is so full of kaka bullshit its not even funny.
And why I will continue to confront their BOURGEOISIE CAPITALIST LOVING FILTH and EXPOSE THEM AT EVERY TURN…
AS WELL AS THEIR SERFDOM KINGDOM OF SLAVERY TSARIST OPIATE THUGS THEY SO LOVE TO LIE IN BED WITH.
how’s That for solidarity,
comrade.
Natasha
Director of WAMI
Dissenting Leftist diabolically opposed to the Tsarist Islamist OPIATE.
Defending decisions made by our State Department would be a never ending task. They use CAIR to “teach” (read: indoctrinate) federal employees in Islamic understanding.
The lady got herself into this mess, but unfortunately drug her children with her. As for passports destroyed…. lets get real here. If they were destroyed State had some bureaucratic reason, but it had nothing at all to do with their complicity in forcing the kids to stay in Yemen. That’s way too big of s stretch of reality.
Getting the kids back will take some sort of kidnapping by someone who will have to risk their life to get them & will face all sorts of obstacles even if they got hold of the kids. To boot, they too may be prosecuted for kidnapping back here. Talk about convoluted logic.
This guy was a mess LONG BEFORE the Patriot Act, LONG BEFORE Bush, LONG BEFORE anyone was threatening him with torture. And if he really is now a state official in Yemen, those assertions the leftists pushed on all in the fawning media were lies then. Because Yemen did not suddenly embrace this guy. He has those connections LONG BEFORE any of the 9/11 stuff, any of the legislative stuff, and long before so many have decided to make excuses for potential terrorists or terrorist sympathizers who collaborate with them in one form or the other.
Pray for the innocent kids, especially the girl. The boys may one day get out, even though by then they may have been brainwashed into radical Islamic terrorism. The girl….. well that’s an entirely different story. She will have been married off at an early age, taken advantage of, and properly chastised to behave like a good wife subjugated by nations & a faith that has no respect for her or other women & even holds they are but, essentially, chattel!
Sorry folks, but this not the fault of the government, Bush, the Patriot Act, or our immigration laws. This happened because many turned their backs on the laws then, the laws now, and reason. Too much effort was put into breaking down the system & way too much effort was put into attacking the system, with little or no thought for, the kids! Some just wanted to promote their “cause.” Everything else was irrelevant to them.
And I will add that its a lot of the fault of so called pandering PONTIUS PILATE feminists who
to this day, censor any and/or all attempts to EDUCATE WOMEN of the very real dangers and LAWS REGARDING CHILD CUSTODY UNDER ISLAM.
Partly due to multiculturalism [the big lie] and cultural relativism, and partly due to the jihadi Muslimas who pounce on these feminist groups with their taqiyya and lies duping stupid young women every damn day in this country and in Europe.
I can understand how a woman could be mislead into getting into a relationship with a Muslim man, I was engaged once myself, years ago, and it was his Mother, who spoke no English [and who I never saw smile once and who cried every single day] and his sisters who risked their lives WARNING ME and his mother who one day put a book about the Sharia Law on my lap, and I read–that was enough,
and because of their courage and yes risk to their safety I and my kids were spared. I would never have converted over to Islam but I was convinced that he was a moderate….even a liberal moderate, he put on a very good act. But there WERE signs, the most obvious one was his rage when he caught me at a Rajavi protest, [Rajavi, Marxist group working to overthrow the Thugs in Iran, or at least back then they were].
BUT even before I read the Sharia and Komenie’s book [which, how Anyone could justify that shit under culture is just beyond me and frankly I have zero tolerance for those types of relativists,
but even then there were So many red flags so there is no way Possible that Swenson didn't KNOW beforehand the risks, she Did, if she was in Any way associated with Islam, and a practicing Muslim she KNEW, SHE KNEW. And its bad enough that a woman would make a decision to allow herself to be debased on such a level,
but no adult has that RIGHT TO INFLICT THAT LIFESTYLE ON A CHILD. IF an adult chooses that, thats one thing, to inflict on a child however, thats another and Swenson basically took an oath to sell her children over to slavery, to sex slavery especially,
its no different from a woman who KNOWINGLY SELLS HER DAUGHTER TO A PIMP FOR DRUG MONEY--SHE KNOWS DAMN WELL WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN,
and thats what Swenson did, she Endangered her children KNOWINGLY WITH FOREWARNING ABOUT THE LAWS IN YEMEN, WHICH THEY DO HAVE CHILD MARRIAGES AS YOUNG AS EIGHT YEARS OLD, AND IN YEMEN AND OMAN AND NUMEROUS OTHER COUNTRIES UNDER SHARIA,
ANY CHILD, OVER THE AGE OF SEVEN AUTOMATICALLY GOES TO THE FATHER FOR CUSTODY, no matter what. THAT IS ISLAMIC LAW and it doesn't matter how much Westerners don't like it, thats SHARIA LAW,
there was a similar case in Oman, Heather Jones, three kids, now she was an exception because Oman did allow her custody as long as she remained in Oman but then, how clever, they revoked her work visa and he kidnapped the kids and last I heard, he still has them.
And this man was violent, extremely so and it was on record. Another American woman, and right now there is a case of a kidnapping and the kids are in Palestine and Obama [big joke] campaign said the state department were doing what they could…
yea they told Heather the same thing…they did very little, there isn’t much they CAN do, and Why should they? Hey, these women married by FREE WILL, not like they were forced with a gun to their head…
and yes its sad and yes its horrid but the travesty is these women, especially many of these so called women’s rights advocates that are as pathetic as one can get, continue to make all sorts of rationalizations for these dehumanizing of women TOTALITARIAN SYSTEMS. In the name of what, Peace?
Its ridiculous, and Patrick is right, too little or no thought for the kids, just the ‘agenda’s', and its that way regarding the left in their anti-war, feminists who pander and kiss up to these misogynist thugs because hey, its ‘chic’ to hate the west,
and whats Really hilarious about it is that these are NOT your poor peasants and poor workers and underclass, oh hell no, these are your upper class never have know what poverty or oppression is, elites in their Ivory Towers all bent out of shape about US imperialism and racism and social injustice while stepping over the bodies of those who truly Do suffer injustice every single day in this country and who go without,
and bottom line, they’re, the relativists and the misery pimps– pond scum suckers, who benefit off of the backs of those in misery to boost their prestige, status, image, and yes, political agenda.
Thats why its so easy for them to not give a damn about those who are the most vulnerable and those who do get hurt, many for a lifetime, hey, they can walk away, go have a martini and bask in their PR glory and their leftist worship by the duped left groupies, and, ‘sweeties’,
meanwhile working to prop up a totalitarian and imperialist system that makes the Western imperialism and injustices that yes, do happen, look friendly in comparison.
There is and was a lot of things about the Patriot Act that I strongly disagree with, I loathe fascism be it right wing or left wing. But to be so callous, and one mentioned here about ACLU protecting NAMBLA tooth and nail, oh yes, so do some of the sects of Feminism too, within the far left,
and the socialist parties are all in bed with the Dutch Socialists who not only embrace NAMBLA BUT THEY HAVE NO ISSUE WITH CHILD TRAFFICKING AND SEX SLAVERY, WHICH IS, YES,
MAJORITY OF CHILDREN OF COLOR, FROM UNDERDEVELOPED NATIONS, NOW TALK ABOUT IMPERIALISM AND GEO POLITICAL RACISM, THE SOCIALISTS IN EUROPE ARE PRIME EXAMPLES OF.
And its no coincidence that in Cuba, prostitution is soaring, gee, go figure, I guess the far leftists/neo-liberal left of today left that whole part out about women being property and that one could not truly be anti-capitalist unless one confronting the evils of the imperialists exploitation of women–oh, sure, they USE it as a Token card when its convenient,
but behind closed doors its wink, wink, pass her around baby.
and the younger she is the better,
slave mastas, thats what they, imperialist slave mastas.
And to another about LDS and that little Rape Sex Cult–similar to the big Rape Sex Cult called Islam, what I term the ‘RAPIST CULT CLUB’,
the ACLU AND THE SOCIALISTS WERE ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE OVER THE CPS PULLING OF THOSE KIDS,
and they used every excuse, to justify the raping of those girls and slavery of those girls by that whole Stalinist crap of self-determination principle,
and its how the Islamists are banking on pulling their Sharia law through as well, using the example of the Native American Indian tribal laws to do it, and the left is all over it,
well as one feminist said, the typical propping up of Culture is just truly a means of PROTECTING PATRIARCHY, ditto, on that I concur.
Because its Always when it comes to women’s human rights and children’s human rights that the cultural relativists are the first to scream the rights of Culture–but now,
it Is interesting how animal rights, are not to be ‘compromised’,
well, guess that tells you one thing,
any human with a vagina has far less value in the far left and in the neo-liberal left, than an animal.
Especially girl children…
and its the one thing the far left has so much to love about Islam–keep girls illiterate, beat down, impregnated or ripped open wombs-forced abortions–either way, chattel for the State Expansion, nothing more.
Keep them girls/women as property of the STATE, of course, reject all other forms of private property, just dump the rest of what Marx said and even Lenin about liberation women and girls from those patriarchal and bourgeoisie PIMPS. No wonder they are in bed with the Tsarist PIMPS and Political Islamists, no wonder at all,
and the truth is, most of them don’t even wince at the thought of those kids, the girls especially, being enslaved and abused in ways one can’t even imagine…
they got what they wanted, their monies, their little Public Media relations like the PR WHORES that they are, and their little boost to the stab at the west and the right especially, to boost up a far worse PYRAMID OF IMPERIALISM,
with them, of course at the top or getter yet, in Dubai, probably enjoying raping some poor trafficked girl from Armenia or the former Soviet Union, lavishing up in wine and glory while the blood of innocents swirls around their jeweled feet.
Pontius Pilates, need I say more…maybe what we need to start asking is, ‘hey Caesar, how many girls did you sell today?’ every time you confront the left/far left.
Natasha
Director of WAMI
Can this woman still breed?
She full well knew the dangers she was
taking her children into, she has no
excuse or justification.
I wonder if the girl has been circumsized
yet.
The mother reported his abuse and then minimized it, as do so many women slavish to their husbands. There are many knaves in this story, but she is the author.
Jet, Jet, Jet…
Such hopefulness, such celestial understanding.
Such b.s. I completely agree with Natasha on this. ALL of the actors involved should be called to task for their collusion to denigrate the country by using Al-Jailani as their tool. Or, did he use them?
In any event, the man has demonstrated evil intent, and his enabling wife has demonstrated lack of self-worth and a complete disregard for the fate of her children.
But, you keep on keeping on. It won’t do the kids any good, but it’ll help you feel better at night about this particular case of cultural relativism.
Everything Natasha wrote is correct.
Here’s an idea for Patrick Poole (or anyone else who would be interested):
How about contacting the various parties involved in the story to get their statements? The first thing would be to send this story to the ACLU, CAIR, the rock band that recorded the song in support of this guy, the New York Times, the BBC, etc.
While most of those involved will almost certainly respond with ‘No Comment’ (if they respond at all), even just fifteen or twenty bloggers bugging the public relations office of CAIR or the ACLU for a comment would siphon off the resources of those organizations.
Basically, if you don’t raise hell, your argument’s a lot easier to ignore or marginalize.
Tears for those children who could be sold off to old men in marriage since they are over 8. Recently a girl of 8 was given a divorce in Yemen. She was repeatedly raped and beaten by her middle aged husband.
No tears for the mother. No fundraiser nothing. She made her own problems and is reaping what she has sown. What a foolish woman she is. I hope she cannot breed more idiots like herself.
So solly.
The next time some addled American woman marries and procreates with one of these Islamist mutts, she and her husband and their children should be deported together for the benefit of American culture.
Although tolerance and diversity are very fines values, can’t anyone on the left admit that there are values that have greater primacy.
hey!!…He was TALL, DARK, AND HANDSOME…!! Whaddaya expect a girl to do?
Wow. What a metaphor to the whole debacle the west has got itself into.
Natasha wrote:
And I will add that its a lot of the fault of so called pandering PONTIUS PILATE feminists who
to this day, censor any and/or all attempts to EDUCATE WOMEN of the very real dangers and LAWS REGARDING CHILD CUSTODY UNDER ISLAM.
Partly due to multiculturalism [the big lie] and cultural relativism, and partly due to the jihadi Muslimas who pounce on these feminist groups with their taqiyya and lies duping stupid young women every damn day in this country and in Europe.
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Thank you Natasha! It is refreshing to see a leftist that does NOT keep quiet on issues like these for “diversity” sake. I am not a leftist, but I find that so many just turn a blind eye to the vicious abuses of Islam toward women, solely because it is politically incorrect to criticize that particular religion. It is OK in PCland for homosexuals to dress up as nuns in San Francisco and disurpt services in a Catholic Church by going to communion, OK for “artists” to put a crucifix in urine and for it to be displayed in a museum, but one DARE NOT say anything “negative” about Islam and its brutalization of women and children. Go figure.
Keep up the good fight!
Thought Anthony Lewis died like 20 years ago. He could not stand not being able to kick Reagan around anymore.
You may as well pin a medal on the husband. As usual the woman is to blame and stoned to death. It’s always the womens fault. Things have not changed a bit. How dare a woman give birth to children! As for mutts, what do you think the gene pool in America is made of? Pure breds?
To Pat: It’s about time someone brought attention to this story. From what I can see it has been silent for a while. The children need their voices heard. Even if their voices are not heard, someone is listening.
Well Good Natasha…Then we can count you in on all out war on Islam and end this farce once and for all…HA HA NOT!
solomonpal,
obviously you aren’t aware of me or of what WAMI is,
because we are diabolically opposed to Islam and are confronting Islam,
not just because of women’s human rights and because of children’s human rights,
but because, ISLAM IS IMPERIALIST.
For ANY leftist to scream against western imperialism or capitalism yet prop up or be in alliance with Islam [which is the case today] is an oxymoron if there ever was one, and that is based on Marxist theory.
IN EVERY SINGLE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC THERE IS POVERTY–BEGGARS, ABUSES OF WORKERS, SLAVERY, CHATTEL SLAVERY, HOARDING OF WEALTH,
in every single one. Islam is IMPERIALIST, EXPANSIONIST, FEUDALIST, BRUTAL, TOTALITARIAN AND FASCIST.
For leftists to align with Islam in this DELUSION of bringing down capitalist imperialism, using left theory here, to reverse and go BACK TO SOME DARK AGES MEDIEVAL FEUDALIST-SERFDOM TSARIST OPIATE TYPE OF INTERNATIONAL ORDER
is insane…even taking Marxist dialectics of capitalist development–if, lets say, the left-Islamic alliance were to succeed, all it would accomplish as far as ending capitalism would go, would be to one day, prop up the very damn thing the leftists are opposed to–THATS BASED ON THE DIALECTICS OF CAPITALIST ECONOMY ACCORDING TO MARX.
NOW–before you get your panties in a wad, I am not a dogmatic Marxist, or Leninist or far leftist, I AM–INDEPENDENT,
I was at one time, a die hard Marxist–it was seeing the demise in the party I was in PLUS, my background in human rights advocacy, my background of heavy reading in Russian literature and culture, pretty much my background in reading just about everything from American political thought to left wing to even Mussolini–
it wasn’t hard to see the flaws, the hypocrisy, the revisionism, etc., and put it together…I do not support corporatist capitalism nor capitalism that is at the expense of others, meaning, creating wealth on the backs of the poor–especially when it uses violence and terror to do so,
However–there are Flaws, major flaws in the far left ideologies, that simply put–just transfers power and resources to the STATE–which, is, street lingo, capitalism for the top echelons, slavery for every one else.
And NO the STATE doesn’t ‘magically wither away’.
So personally, I think we need NEW economic theories that apply and work for our world today AND THEY MUST INCLUDE WOMEN–AFTER ALL, OVER HALF OF THE WORLD’S POPULATION IS ALSO INVOLVED WITH THE ECONOMIC STRUCTURE OF THE WORLD YET THEY ARE THE WORLD’S POOREST–STATISTICAL FACT.
So I take whats good from both right and left–Yes, its called THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, I know–RARE these days,
BUT–if Islam succeeds,
it won’t matter, right or left, because we’ll all be back in some dark ages hell on earth, ESPECIALLY WOMEN AND CHILDREN,
and not only that–
ITS FUTILE to even CONSIDER WORKING FOR WORKER’S HUMAN RIGHTS when ISLAM is in power,
in Dubai every single day, a worker, TRAFFICKED SLAVE WORKER IN LABOR CAMP CONDITIONS…DIES, FALLS TO THEIR DEATH,
so war against Islam,
Damn right. I was kicked out of the left party Because I stood up, I’ve been kicked off more feminist forums than I can count-SO BE IT,
there comes a time when a person has to stand up and be counted, I prefer to stand up as an INDIVIDUAL WHO BELIEVES NO HUMAN,
SHOULD BE OPPRESSED, ENSLAVED, SUBJUGATED, TORTURED, BEATEN, RAPED, JUST BECAUSE SOME SUPREMACIST RELIGIOUS FASCIST THINKS THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT…
you Just assume that because one isn’t some right winger that they can’t be Just as opposed AND REVOLUTIONARY against Islam–
HA HA NOT! BACK TO YOU,
because fact is, WOMEN, HAVE FAR MORE TO LOSE
WORKERS, POOR ESPECIALLY, HAVE FAR MORE TO LOSE
if Islam gains power.
The Rich can flee, its not the Rich dying in Sudan, ITS THE POOR,
its not the Rich dying in Afghanistan, ITS THE POOR,
its not the Rich chained in sweatshops in Bangladesh and Pakistan and Oman and Yemen and its not the Rich who are beggars and trapped working as SEX SLAVES AND DOMESTIC SLAVES AND CAMEL JOCKEYS AND CARPET WEAVERS
its the POOR–the poorest who are trafficked, exploited and in Islam–its perfectly legal, Islam is built on nothing BUT SLAVERY, EXTORTION, TERROR, SUBJUGATION OF WOMEN AND LITTLE GIRLS–NOT JUST CHAUVINISM BUT WOMEN AS CHATTEL SLAVES –
NOT JUST MALE CHAUVINISM BUT BECAUSE WOMEN AND LITTLE GIRLS ARE THE BREEDING MARES TO PROP UP ISLAMIST EMPIRE. THEY ARE ASSES–NOTHING MORE,
why they are bartered, sold, traded, re-sold, killed if they defy their chattel and breeder mare status,
so for Any women’s human rights advocate or for Any worker or for Any human, who has ANY CONSCIOUSNESS OF CLASS OR RACE OR ETHNICITY OR GENDER–
to be in alliance or apologetic or soft on Islam,
is SUICIDE.
So counting me in on an all out war on Islamism and to end the farce once and for all–
Solomonpal,
you don’t know the half of it…I’m not only in, I’m probably by far a hell of a lot more revolutionary about it and a lot less tolerant…
ANY MEANS NECESSARY–BECAUSE I WON’T BE SILENT–WHILE OUR DAUGHTERS AND THEIR DAUGHTERS AND OUR SONS ARE AT RISK OF LIVING IN AN ISLAMIC NIGHTMARE…
Its not just enough to be against Islam because of the war in Iraq or Afghanistan, which btw, I was vocal against the abuses of women in Islam even BEFORE 9-11—I remember during Clinton when he warned about Afghanistan and Albright went to Afghanistan and warned about the Taliban and all Americans cared about was the Starr Report and what Did Lewinsky do with that cigar?
No body gave a damn–it was a minority, who even Spoke of the ILLEGAL OCCUPATION OF SOUTH SUDAN BY THE NORTH ISLAMISTS AND THE HOLOCAUST GOING ON THERE–CHRISTIANS IN FACT, I remember because Amnesty wouldn’t cover what was going on in Sudan,
that was before 9-11,
One can’t be against slavery and be soft on Islam–either one is an ABOLITIONIST OR THEY AREN’T,
Same for human rights, women’s rights, children’s rights—worker’s rights,
how can Anyone be for any of those things and NOT be opposed to Islam? I’ve done my research–Islam is far more Imperialist than any imperialism in our world today. If you Ask me Solomonpal,
the right isn’t militant enough–
because I’m not only opposed to Islam–I damn sure, am not going to ‘invest in Dubai or invest in Iran’, making a buck–knowing damn well, they traffick women, they abuse children, they violate human rights, they commit genocide even against minorities within their nation-states,
I know what the far left is, I know the alliances and their agenda–I also know a little firsthand about Islam because at one time I was one of those duped relativists who dated an Muslim man–I learned real quick–saw it for myself,
and I’ve seen firsthand the HELL that Muslim women live under IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT IN OUR OWN DAMN BACKYARD.
Just as much as I’ve met women from Juarez who’ve lost their daughters and women who’ve worked in sweatshops…from El Salvador, I’ve seen street kids,
so NO I don’t support tyranny–of Any kind. That includes Islam–ESPECIALLY ISLAM,
I don’t hate the Muslim people–it would be great if Islam could be reformed, I don’t think it can however for reasons I won’t go into here, even if so, there’s NOT enough time–TOO MANY LIVES ARE AT STAKE,
if you ask me solomonpal, We should have done something a hell of a long time ago…and its NOT like the governments didn’t know–they damn sure did–but hey, it was free trade and a buck to be made…
democracy and free trade would change tyrannies, yea, Right–all it did was make them stronger,
China–backing up Sudan, you can’t even criticize Sharia in the UN anymore,
so don’t just blame the LEFT–blame the RIGHT too.
Maybe what we need is not party politics–loyalty to party line, no,
what we need, is getting back to COMMON SENSE–MAYBE SOME OF US WORKING CLASS PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE THE REINS EH,
BECAUSE WE HAVE A HELL OF A LOT MORE TO LOSE…WOMEN ESPECIALLY–SO,
before you just assume that one because they are from left background or because they aren’t right wing can’t be militant and an enemy of the world imperialist opiate fascist totalitarian woman hating and butchering expansionist JUNTA TYPE OF REGIME in the world–
think again.
If you want my opinion, you could Use some hard core revolutionaries in the war against Islam.
Natasha
Director of WAMI
What a surprise… once again a Muslim marries an Infidel woman, then kidnaps her kids. How many times is this repeated around the World? And of the times where the kids are not kidnapped, how many times are they pressurised into becoming Muslim?
Should it not be blatantly obvious by now that this is just another front in the Muslim Jihad against the Infidels? And possibly a lot more effective and silent than more traditional methods…
The only thing sad about this story is that there are 3 more mooslimes
why did you deport the little girl it is not her fault that her parents brought her here for a better life……..maybe the country she used to live at wasnt the right place to live at. so just STOP deporting ppl !!!!!!
And of course, a dispute over parental custody is a direct consequence of this unjust deportation by the racist American government. If he had remained in America, the channels available to his wife would have been greater, visitation rights could have been established, or he could have been charged with child abuse, etc. Blame the racist deporters and the crackdown freaks for this tragedy.
BTW if he was not tortured on return, this does not prove that he was not AT RISK of torture on return. Notice the whining right argue he should be deported because of a much smaller risk that he “might” commit violence. In one case, a small abstract possibility is enough to prove risk. In the other, they rule out risk because it is not 100% certain. Typical hypocrisy. Really, the right don’t care if he’s tortured because he has brown skin and is politically controversial. They only care about inconvenience to white mortgage-payers.
dis is crazy i cant belive this they are sick why would some one do dis to the kids who havent seen life yet. i mean dis is some crazy stuff dis world is crazy and filled with siecos wach yoll back it could be yall next srry if i scared yall with dat but it is the truth lock up tonigt peace i pray for them kids and yall in the world it hard out here when you got to worry about all dis stuff ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh im so sick of dis, and the hood. keep your head up thats all i can say.
This is what you get when you marry foreingners. Exotic daddy can take the kids home and you never see them again. I have no pity for this woman. The sad thing is that the girls are old enough to be raped(married to an old Yemeni man).
Hello. And Bye.