Comments on: Has the British Strategy in Southern Iraq Failed? http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:21:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: wretchard http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/#comment-16147 wretchard Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:14:23 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-the-british-strategy-in-southern-iraq-failed/#comment-16147 Thank you for pointing out the typo in the last paragraph. I've fixed. Regards, W. Thank you for pointing out the typo in the last paragraph. I’ve fixed.

Regards,

W.

]]> By: ad http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/#comment-16146 ad Wed, 07 Nov 2007 18:20:14 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-the-british-strategy-in-southern-iraq-failed/#comment-16146 How much control does the US have in Kurdistan? None, because it has not tried to control that area. The UK can no longer be bothered to try to control Basra, so it doesn't. How much control does the US have in Kurdistan? None, because it has not tried to control that area.

The UK can no longer be bothered to try to control Basra, so it doesn’t.

]]> By: Tom Grey http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/#comment-16145 Tom Grey Wed, 07 Nov 2007 10:44:39 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-the-british-strategy-in-southern-iraq-failed/#comment-16145 Great article. "Imposing democracy" without the imposition on those who disagree, doesn't work. Whenever one side is willing to kill, die, and kill innocents to win, but the other side isn't willing to fight back, the willing to fight side will win the fight. typo-- residents of Basra, not Baghdad, will be unwilling in final graph: "And despite the recent success in Anbar, Diyala and south of Baghdad it may be some time before the residents of Baghdad find the willingness to trust someone else " residents of Basra find... Great article.

“Imposing democracy” without the imposition on those who disagree, doesn’t work.

Whenever one side is willing to kill, die, and kill innocents to win, but the other side isn’t willing to fight back, the willing to fight side will win the fight.

typo– residents of Basra, not Baghdad, will be unwilling in final graph: “And despite the recent success in Anbar, Diyala and south of Baghdad it may be some time before the residents of Baghdad find the willingness to trust someone else ”

residents of Basra find…

]]> By: wretchard http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/#comment-16144 wretchard Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:10:51 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-the-british-strategy-in-southern-iraq-failed/#comment-16144 Roger that Yehudit, I think the British ceasefire nine months ago in Helmand, Afghanistan (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article656693.ece) deserves a look in that regard, especially now that it has apparently fallen apart. (http://www.afgha.com/?q=node/4724) Roger that Yehudit,

I think the British ceasefire nine months ago in Helmand, Afghanistan (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article656693.ece) deserves a look in that regard, especially now that it has apparently fallen apart. (http://www.afgha.com/?q=node/4724)

]]> By: Yehudit http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/#comment-16143 Yehudit Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:59:42 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-the-british-strategy-in-southern-iraq-failed/#comment-16143 Steven Vincent <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/31/opinion/31vincent.html?_r=1&oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">wrote about this</a> before anyone else did. it was the investigation which cost him his life. But <a href="http://spencepublishing.typepad.com/in_the_red_zone/2005/07/the_naive_ameri.html" rel="nofollow">the Americans weren't much better.</a> Steven Vincent wrote about this before anyone else did. it was the investigation which cost him his life.

But the Americans weren’t much better.

]]> By: Aaron http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/#comment-16142 Aaron Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:17:37 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-the-british-strategy-in-southern-iraq-failed/#comment-16142 But they don't wear sunglasses which makes them look friendly! (sarcasm) But they don’t wear sunglasses which makes them look friendly!

(sarcasm)

]]> By: M. Simon http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/#comment-16141 M. Simon Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:41:06 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-the-british-strategy-in-southern-iraq-failed/#comment-16141 I link to this and provide a link to the U.S. Marines <b>Small Wars Manual</b> at <a href="http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2007/11/british-defeated-sue-for-peace.html" rel="nofollow">British Defeated - Sue For Peace</a>. I link to this and provide a link to the U.S. Marines Small Wars Manual at British Defeated – Sue For Peace.

]]> By: wretchard http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/#comment-16140 wretchard Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:34:13 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-the-british-strategy-in-southern-iraq-failed/#comment-16140 I think historians will make the final judgments on the British campaign. But maybe one issue will be to compare the means with the ends. The British instinct for political work may have been correct, but did they have the means to provide the security in which political reconstruction could occur? Without the solid security environment any political initiative, however well conducted, will probably fail. To what extent this has happened is something the article above tries to look at. I think historians will make the final judgments on the British campaign. But maybe one issue will be to compare the means with the ends. The British instinct for political work may have been correct, but did they have the means to provide the security in which political reconstruction could occur? Without the solid security environment any political initiative, however well conducted, will probably fail.

To what extent this has happened is something the article above tries to look at.

]]> By: Donald Sensing http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/#comment-16139 Donald Sensing Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:33:24 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-the-british-strategy-in-southern-iraq-failed/#comment-16139 This reminds me of Irwin Rommel's comment after the defeat of the Afrika Korps: "No army knows so little, or learns so fast, as the American army." This reminds me of Irwin Rommel’s comment after the defeat of the Afrika Korps: “No army knows so little, or learns so fast, as the American army.”

]]> By: willis http://pjmedia.com/blog/and_dont_forget_the_big_stick/#comment-16138 willis Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:41:29 +0000 http://dev.pajamasmedia.com/blog/has-the-british-strategy-in-southern-iraq-failed/#comment-16138 " When the JAM and other Shi'ite militias responded to British political initiatives with sheer violence and mayhem, the British, lacking the means to protect their Iraqi partners, found their strategy collapsing about their ears." Patience. We'll be there soon enough. Get your violence and mayhem ready. ” When the JAM and other Shi’ite militias responded to British political initiatives with sheer violence and mayhem, the British, lacking the means to protect their Iraqi partners, found their strategy collapsing about their ears.”

Patience. We’ll be there soon enough. Get your violence and mayhem ready.

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