Comments on: And the Purpose of Gun Buybacks Is … What? http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:23:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: David p.curcione http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/#comment-624890 David p.curcione Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:31:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=56914#comment-624890 1. The smaller Gun Dealers of Type-01 Should get it too! I"m Talking Class 03 N.F.A. Licence of Type-09 for Small Gun Dealers Busineses too! They Can"t be Trusted at all too.The N.F.A. Applications Will be not as easly to get too! The smaller Gun Dealers Stores is in the 30,000 01 Units Retalers Dealers too! The Class-03 is for the Discision for the Letter Approval by the Siginature: Town, Township, Citie Police Chiefs of Police Departments only to Request An Applications For a Type-09 N.F.A. Class-03 Retailer Licence With a Black Stamp Tax Number only at Right Hand Conner only too! The Chief of Police Can approved of a Approval Letter: or Cut it buy Denied Class-01 Any Dealers Regular Request by Law of , Town, Township, Cities, Country Sheriffis Dept. Or By the State Police, Or the Highway Patrolled State Police too! Or by the: F.B.I. Or the A.T.F.E.A. Divisions Sattle Offices Directors Section Chiefs Officers Of operations of All Renuals F.F.L.s Licences Applications Dept.s in 50 States too! It's For a Class-03"s is Type-09 Fullauto"Dealers Licences too! Rules do applyed Illegal Non Citizens included too! Agreed!!! 1. The smaller Gun Dealers of Type-01 Should get it too! I”m Talking Class 03 N.F.A. Licence of Type-09 for Small Gun Dealers Busineses too! They Can”t be Trusted at all too.The N.F.A. Applications Will be not as easly to get too! The smaller Gun Dealers Stores is in the 30,000 01 Units Retalers Dealers too! The Class-03 is for the Discision for the Letter Approval by the Siginature: Town, Township, Citie Police Chiefs of Police Departments only to Request An Applications For a Type-09 N.F.A. Class-03 Retailer Licence With a Black Stamp Tax Number only at Right Hand Conner only too! The Chief of Police Can approved of a Approval Letter: or Cut it buy Denied Class-01 Any Dealers Regular Request by Law of , Town, Township, Cities, Country Sheriffis Dept. Or By the State Police, Or the Highway Patrolled State Police too! Or by the: F.B.I. Or the A.T.F.E.A. Divisions Sattle Offices Directors Section Chiefs Officers Of operations of All Renuals F.F.L.s Licences Applications Dept.s in 50 States too! It’s For a Class-03″s is Type-09 Fullauto”Dealers Licences too! Rules do applyed Illegal Non Citizens included too! Agreed!!!

]]> By: Caestal http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/#comment-270764 Caestal Sun, 31 May 2009 09:47:19 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=56914#comment-270764 I can't help but wonder if the guns acquired in this manner aren't actually checked to see if they were used in a crime. If they were, while "no questions were asked" the payment was made in a completely traceable form... If it is a "buy back" program, perhaps the guns were either sold or stolen from the police evidence room in the first place? :-o The good news is that the gift certificates weren't public money (probably, the police time was) and the buy-back wasn't forced. I can’t help but wonder if the guns acquired in this manner aren’t actually checked to see if they were used in a crime. If they were, while “no questions were asked” the payment was made in a completely traceable form…

If it is a “buy back” program, perhaps the guns were either sold or stolen from the police evidence room in the first place? :-o

The good news is that the gift certificates weren’t public money (probably, the police time was) and the buy-back wasn’t forced.

]]> By: M. Simon http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/#comment-269994 M. Simon Sat, 30 May 2009 05:57:37 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=56914#comment-269994 If gun "buy backs" work why hasn't a "drug buy back" scheme ever been tried? Seems like a big missing opportunity there. If gun “buy backs” work why hasn’t a “drug buy back” scheme ever been tried? Seems like a big missing opportunity there.

]]> By: Ritchey Ruff http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/#comment-269558 Ritchey Ruff Fri, 29 May 2009 16:58:00 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=56914#comment-269558 I've always wondered if criminals are using these programs to their benefit: go out and commit a crime with a gun (kill someone, shoot someone) then take the gun in and it gets destroyed (no records, no questions asked). Sorry sir, the weapon for this crime cannot be found... I’ve always wondered if criminals are using these programs to their benefit: go out and commit a crime with a gun (kill someone, shoot someone) then take the gun in and it gets destroyed (no records, no questions asked). Sorry sir, the weapon for this crime cannot be found…

]]> By: macko http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/#comment-267929 macko Wed, 27 May 2009 23:42:34 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=56914#comment-267929 When seconds count the police are just minutes away When seconds count the police are just minutes away

]]> By: john_smith http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/#comment-267789 john_smith Wed, 27 May 2009 19:42:54 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=56914#comment-267789 Sence I have actualy used an evil "assult weapon" for defence, I won't be selling it to the State. The ulgy things work quite well to convince angry mobs to take themself elsewhere. Having a gun in hand works far better than a phone.When 911 operator says "Police are 30 minutes away" They may as well not show up. (to be fair they actualy made it in 15) Realy everyone is responsible for their own saftey, a gun of whatever type is just part of the required equipment. The "buy back" programs are just poltical BS, so that liberal police political types can look good to stupid people. The money spend could be better used to do something usefull. Of couse, that would not make for such a nice photo op. Sence I have actualy used an evil “assult weapon” for defence, I won’t be selling it to the State.
The ulgy things work quite well to convince angry mobs to take themself elsewhere.

Having a gun in hand works far better than a phone.When 911 operator says “Police are 30 minutes away”
They may as well not show up. (to be fair they actualy made it in 15)

Realy everyone is responsible for their own saftey, a gun of whatever type is just part of the required equipment.
The “buy back” programs are just poltical BS, so that liberal police political types can look good to stupid people.
The money spend could be better used to do something usefull. Of couse, that would not make for such a nice photo op.

]]> By: Sulaco http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/#comment-267765 Sulaco Wed, 27 May 2009 19:11:32 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=56914#comment-267765 Wonder what happens when the brown shirts working in LA find a reported stolen gun in their "let them buy new guns" buy back program. Return (as the law requires) it to the legal owner or just burn them hoping nobody finds out? More likely the burn, honor and courage are lacking for the most part in Kalifornia. After all with the election of Dear Leader the law is what they say it is today not yesterday. And I say that having been forced to run one of these fascist dog and pony PC shows. Wonder what happens when the brown shirts working in LA find a reported stolen gun in their “let them buy new guns” buy back program. Return (as the law requires) it to the legal owner or just burn them hoping nobody finds out? More likely the burn, honor and courage are lacking for the most part in Kalifornia. After all with the election of Dear Leader the law is what they say it is today not yesterday. And I say that having been forced to run one of these fascist dog and pony PC shows.

]]> By: FredGarvin http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/#comment-267111 FredGarvin Tue, 26 May 2009 21:19:03 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=56914#comment-267111 A Dave: “Then moan about something important not an imagined attack on your right to compensate for a lack of manhood by owning something designed strictly for killing (there’s no other use)” Ok, but for killing whom? I mean, if my wife ends up shooting and killing her attacker, are you going to argue that she shouldn't have done so? Oh, and she is laughing hysterically at your "lack of manhood" comment. Specifically, the words "what a dolt" were mentioned. A Dave: “Then moan about something important not an imagined attack on your right to compensate for a lack of manhood by owning something designed strictly for killing (there’s no other use)”

Ok, but for killing whom? I mean, if my wife ends up shooting and killing her attacker, are you going to argue that she shouldn’t have done so?

Oh, and she is laughing hysterically at your “lack of manhood” comment. Specifically, the words “what a dolt” were mentioned.

]]> By: Falconsword http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/#comment-266983 Falconsword Tue, 26 May 2009 17:44:53 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=56914#comment-266983 >The same data set showed that renting or owning a dog was even a higher risk factor than having a gun. I love it. BTW - please stop using logic, it really confuses most liberals. Marik Sic Semper Tyrannis >The same data set showed that renting or owning a dog was even a higher risk factor than having a gun.

I love it.

BTW – please stop using logic, it really confuses most liberals.

Marik

Sic Semper Tyrannis

]]> By: Clayton E. Cramer http://pjmedia.com/blog/and-the-purpose-of-gun-buybacks-is-what/#comment-266830 Clayton E. Cramer Tue, 26 May 2009 14:40:18 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=56914#comment-266830 <blockquote>Lowering the number of guns in a community reduces the number of people who get shot.</blockquote>It rather depends on who you persuade to give up their guns. If you persuade people with a felony conviction or mental illness history to give up their guns, your statement may well be true. But for the vast majority of people with no criminal convictions or mental illness problems, the gain by reducing the number of guns is so small that multiple studies have failed to detect it. The average person with a gun isn't a problem. <blockquote>A gun purchased for protection is more likely to result in an accidental shooting than for protection.</blockquote>No. There is a study that purports to find that a gun is more likely to kill a person who lives in that home than to kill an intruder, and that's true. True, but misleading, because most defensive uses of guns (hundreds of thousands per year in the U.S.) don't end up killing an intruder, but scaring him off, or holding the intruder for police. In addition, the deaths of residents in that study in King county were overwhelmingly suicides--not murders, and not gun accidents (which are only about 5% of U.S. gun deaths). The applicablity of those results to the general population are also questionable because the survey population was disproportionately poor, black, and living in a part of the country known for high suicide rates. The same data set showed that renting or owning a dog was even a higher risk factor than having a gun.

Lowering the number of guns in a community reduces the number of people who get shot.

It rather depends on who you persuade to give up their guns. If you persuade people with a felony conviction or mental illness history to give up their guns, your statement may well be true. But for the vast majority of people with no criminal convictions or mental illness problems, the gain by reducing the number of guns is so small that multiple studies have failed to detect it. The average person with a gun isn’t a problem.

A gun purchased for protection is more likely to result in an accidental shooting than for protection.

No. There is a study that purports to find that a gun is more likely to kill a person who lives in that home than to kill an intruder, and that’s true.

True, but misleading, because most defensive uses of guns (hundreds of thousands per year in the U.S.) don’t end up killing an intruder, but scaring him off, or holding the intruder for police.

In addition, the deaths of residents in that study in King county were overwhelmingly suicides–not murders, and not gun accidents (which are only about 5% of U.S. gun deaths). The applicablity of those results to the general population are also questionable because the survey population was disproportionately poor, black, and living in a part of the country known for high suicide rates. The same data set showed that renting or owning a dog was even a higher risk factor than having a gun.

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