And the Purpose of Gun Buybacks Is … What?
The article acknowledges that gun buybacks have been widely criticized as publicity stunts that only take guns from law-abiding adults. The explanation from officials for why this is still a good idea just makes my head ache:
But L.A. police and city officials say every gun turned in Saturday and destroyed is one that no longer can be stolen and used in a crime or contribute to an accident.
I see. We have two choices here:
Option A: Have sworn police officers spend their time (presumably, while on the clock) giving out $130,200 in privately contributed funds to get law-abiding citizens to turn in their guns so that they can’t be stolen and used in crimes by other parties.
Option B: Persuade the people who contributed that money to spend it hiring another police officer for the LAPD and have that officer do nothing but investigate burglaries, locate criminals, and send them to prison.
Have the police in Los Angeles really reached the point where option A makes more sense?
And the “no questions asked” idiocy means that if someone does have a stolen gun, they no longer have to risk fencing it. The police will pay you $100 for it, no questions asked! I don’t know what a fence would typically pay for a stolen handgun, but I’m guessing that $100 is on the high side.
The madness continues:
The LAPD said it will destroy all of the guns collected Saturday, even ones as potentially valuable as a World War I-era chrome-plated Luger that showed up in Northridge.
Let’s see, what else could they do with such a collector’s piece? They could sell it to a collector, who would lock it in a safe where its risk of being stolen and used in a crime is almost zero — and probably raise many thousands of dollars to spend on gun buybacks — or even, you know, use it for what used to be considered police work: trying to arrest and convict the criminals that commit felonies. Or they could find a museum that would want this rare and perhaps desirable historical artifact. But that would require something other than the kneejerk insanity which is so common in the city where I used to live.
Why melt them down? Sell them at a cheap price to people like me! I’m in the market for a new firearm. What a waste. And screw the anti-gun leftist facists. It’s just yet another major issue of the Democrap Party that the American people have overwhelmingly rejected. What’s new. But as this story shows don’t expect them to ever give up in their Crusade to erase the 2nd ammendment.
You’re right. Here, in Australia, our anti-gun laws resulted in higher crimes and more vulnerable people.
Assuming thieves of weapons are rational economic actors, we must assume that mentioned valuable Luger was brought in over the “no questions asked” policy. For only adversity to risk could explain why a seller wouldn’t find an up-scale buyer.
The police and the city government are therefore aiding-and-abetting theft.
Gun dealers just love these gun buy-back programs because it allows them to get rid of all the cheap junk guns they got stuck with over the years, or the defective guns that customers have returned. Criminals also just love these programs because it allows them to turn in their less-desirable guns (& guns they stole) for a profit. Then the dealers & criminals both use the money they received for these junk guns to buy new much more powerful guns. What a great deal!
I might add that a “no questions asked” buyback program is a golden opportunity for a criminal to dispose of a gun already used in a crime, with little or no risk of the weapon coming back as Exhibit A in court. After all, once it’s melted down, it can’t be used for a ballistics match.
“Political” police officials, like Safety Service Directors and chiefs, are highly in favor of “gun buybacks” because they are philosophically pleasing to their (generally “progressive”) political masters, and they provide a photo-op that makes it look as though the authorities are “doing something about crime”.
Actual street cops have a very different opinion.
clear ether
eon
Los Angeles becomes the latest to disarm its law-abiding citizens and gloat about it.
Obama Hussein will start the national program before Christmas and it is not voluntary,when the ACORN Brownshirts start the Census with the GPS tracking that already started ,they will use the GPS data with the FBI database of all registered gun owners and start collecting weapons.
It will not be a buyback either.
Be sure to save at least one sterile (fingerprint fee) throwdown pistol. “But officer, he had a gun!”
Mr. Cramer:
“And the Purpose of Gun Buybacks Is … What?”
Easy…after you’ve capped a punk, you turn it in, and the Fuzz destroy the evidence connecting you to the murder.
And you get a $100 gift card for the whole deal.
SWEEET!
Some doofus REALLY gave up a WWI-era Luger for a hundred bucks?
Egads, the stupidity of some people!
Most of these guns that are placed into “buyback programs” are really old and worthless – and in many cases UNSAFE – weapons. I consider this more a case of wasteful appropriation of taxpayer dollars than anything else – and especially with this happening in California – a state we’ll all soon be bailing out.
Any American Citizen who is willing to sell off his or her 2nd amendment rights for a few bucks deserves to see up close and personal what happens when they sell those rights and privileges away. So in a sense, there’s a Darwinian principle at work here – as those who render themselves defenseless so easily – deserve no defense.
No one’s buying my guns. In fact – I’m probably going to get into reloading just to ensure that I have the ammo side covered when the Democrats opt to ban bullets.
5. eon nailed it right ‘tween the eyes.
What a dopey premise.
Nobody is going to ‘give up a gun’ they want to keep unless it is purely for the money [plausible] or because it is junk [possibly] or because they are criminals who need want the money and a free way to get rid of evidence [highly possibly plausible].
I have a third option for that collector’s piece. How about tell the person who was turning it in that it was a collector’s piece and had lot of value. Unfortunately, these programs are designed to pray on two types of law abiding citizens, naive ones and bleeding heart liberals. The naive ones do not know that there are secure web sites that you can sell your gun collector’s piece or not at market prices and transfer it through a Federal Firearms Dealer to the buyer. The bleeding hearts just go into some type of ‘Rainman’ trance and start saying Guns are Bad, very Bad. Guns are bad. Then walk to the buy back with thier gun.
Where did the money to buy back these dangerous firearms from the elderly thugs come from?
Actualy since the program is effectively acting as a dealer in firearms. $ 100 for each firearm, where is their FFL license. Get them as un registered firearm dealer
TO: Clayton E. Cramer, et al.
RE: And….
….when things fall apart, as they always do, the law-abiding citizens who gave up their weapons will be preyed upon by the lawless ones who kept theirs.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour. -- George Washington]
Don’t you know that guns kill? The existence of guns is the reason for violent crime. They also cause teen pregnancy, did you know that? And when they are fired they contribute to global warming and have a hugh carbon footprint. This means they are responsible for melting the polar ice cap and glaciers. This means the oceans will rise, poor people who live along the coasts and rivers will lose their humble abodes. People will die! All because of those stinking guns! Get rid of them all. Now. Before it is too late. I say we should applaud the lib idiots (I think I’m being redundant) for helping to save the planet, our galaxy, our universe!
My what smart, motivated people we have as public servants. Let’s hire more like them and put them in LA, la la land! The home of the free, the land of the stupid.
The human race has reached its zenith in evolutionary development. We are witnessing history folks, we are being saved from the evil gun. Melt them down. Die guns, die! All the grief you have caused in the world throughout history. Such evil implements of the devil. We should all agree to leave guns to tyrants, dictators, megalomaniacs who are the only ones who can control such evil creations. Thank God we have socialists and liberals to save us.
Maybe the fine citizens of Los Angeles should bring in their kitchen knives, forks, baseball bats, 2×4 pieces of wood with spiked nails, chains, propellant cans with lighters (to flame you literally), dogs, and other non-gun items that can be used as weapons to commit crimes.
I’m confused. How can you “buy back” something you never owned in the first place?
“Los Angeles becomes the latest to disarm its law-abiding citizens ”
Was anyone forced to give up their weapons? No? Then moan about something important not an imagined attack on your right to compensate for a lack of manhood by owning something designed strictly for killing (there’s no other use) The right whine is getting really tedious.
18. A Dave:
“Was anyone forced to give up their weapons? No? Then moan about something important not an imagined attack on your right to compensate for a lack of manhood by owning something designed strictly for killing (there’s no other use) The right whine is getting really tedious.”
~
So, you’re saying only the bad guys should have guns and the good, riteous dudes should have none? Gun laws only affect law ABIDING people. Get it?
‘righteous’ not “riteous”.
BAH!
Here’s another thought as to why “buyback” programs are ridiculous (and why the term “buyback”? The guns were never the state’s to begin with, thus it “buys back” nothing). Unless the firearm is a total piece of crappolla, you can bring just about any “California un-banned” firearm to a licensed dealer and sell your hardware on consignment. I recently put on consignment a old rifle that will net me about $250. I know what the problem is: we need a federally funded “Firearm Owners Mathematics Course” to educate people inticed by the “buyback” program. We’ll call it “FOMC”. We can allocate, say, 28 million to FOMC, which, government estimates show, will help people sell their firearms at a minimum 150% profit above and beyond what they would have earned through a typically city buyback program. That will put at least an additional $250,000 in the pockets of low wage earning tax payers! I’m brilliant! We should “collectively” write to Pres. Obama about this great idea! He’ll love it! He also loves the word “collective”! This is a winner!
One of these dog and pony shows took place last year in Oakland, California. At $250 a gun, maybe in the form of a gift card or voucher, but still..!
If I remember correctly, they got triple the number of guns expected, and ran out of money before committing more during the course of the event.
Numerous dealers, including some from (Nevada?) showed up and turned over their junk to the city and politicians. Lots of older citizens, too…
Cost a quarter million.
“compensate for a lack of manhood”
Which explains why women are the fastest growing demographic of firearm owners. They all want to be men, right?
No one is going to turn in an assault rifle worth $2000.00 for a measley $100.00 gift card, if they do then something is fishy in california.
A Dave
Are you insulting my manhood? If you think owning a gun is for compensating for my lack of manhood, I’d be willing to meet you and prove otherwise.
An absolutely worthless program,will do more harm than good.
The do-gooders are screwing the people. Meanwhile, the criminals will keep on breaking the laws…
TO: Oscar the Grouch
RE: ‘Manhood’ Issues
Actually, I think A Dave is projecting with that one. He’s probably a VERY ‘conflicted’ individual. Suffers from ‘gun envy’ and probably some other forms of ‘envy’ as well. But, being a ‘progressive’, he feels he can’t do anything to resolve the ‘gun’ one, due to ‘fear’ of peer pressure. If not an outright fear of guns. Which would probably be the easiest envy to overcome.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. -- Dr. Sigmund Freud]
Heh….
….looks like Freud agrees with me about A Dave….
TO: All
RE: I Have to Wonder….
….that if the police are so worried about criminals stealing guns from people….
….what will they do when the criminals start stealing THEIR guns?
Start going ‘unarmed’?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[You recognize rank hypocrisy by simply changing the nature of the argument and seeing if there is any change in the opinion.]
Check the stats with the brady campaign. The areas with the strictest gun laws have the highest crime rates.
Very strong and courageous men can turn a 50 dollar gun for 100 dollar gift certificate.
As a economist that also has a degree in psychology, this looks like a little exercise of capitalism and nothing more. They captured 1,700 weapons in a metro market of 5,000 times that in size?
You American’s are a funny bunch!
You want nuclear disarmarment in the rest of the world, but you don’t want to disarm yourselves. Hypocrisy.
Who cares about assault weapons. Get rid of handguns and automatics. Neither are used for hunting or farming purposes.
Lowering the number of guns in a community reduces the number of people who get shot. A gun purchased for protection is more likely to result in an accidental shooting than for protection. There’s a reason that the U.S. has the highest murder rate of the western world. Of course, that’s too logical for right-wing American gun nuts. Reading these comments here has reaffirmed my knowledge that Americans are mentally retarded. My only consolation is that eventually so many Americans might kill eachother that the rest of the world will be rid of their stupidity once and for all. Have fun shooting eachother.
I was stopped recently by the police while riding my bicycle to work. They wanted to know why I was riding a bicycle without a bell. This was two big cops in a patrol car with computers on board and GPS antennae on the roof. I felt reassured that the cops were really on the ball looking for gangsters riding around without bells on their bikes.
This recent buy-back of guns confirms that the cops are not slacking off and they’re maintaining their vigilant watch over our communities.
Pried from my cold dead hands………
“You’re right. Here, in Australia, our anti-gun laws resulted in higher crimes and more vulnerable people.”
are you kidding? after the port arthur incident, a nation wide gun buy-back was a huge success.
“I’m in the market for a new firearm”
lol That’s gotta be the funniest comment on here. What are you doing with your gun(s) that they can’t be used anymore and that you have to replace it with a new one?
Americans are funny. So frightened of everything – each other, the ‘gays’, home invasions, their own government going rogue. They should be more concerned about corn syrup than gun buybacks.
“The LAPD said it will destroy all of the guns collected Saturday, even ones as potentially valuable as a World War I-era chrome-plated Luger that showed up in Northridge.”
No way. Valuable/rare pistols and revolvers will survive . . . somehow, they will “disappear” from the roll. LE appreciate fine weapons.
Don’t despair, that Luger will live on . . . . .
From urineidiot:
“You’re right. Here, in Australia, our anti-gun laws resulted in higher crimes and more vulnerable people.”
are you kidding? after the port arthur incident, a nation wide gun buy-back was a huge success”.
The so-called “buy back” was compulsory to start with. Even farmers who need weapons for self protection had to fight to keep them, and many didn’t manage to.
So – a “success” in what way?
In one area it was later found the persons given the guns to destroy had secretly sold them on, not only making a fortune, but selling them on to the criminal community.
Gun crime in this country has gone through the roof since that stupid action, but guess who by? Normally law abiding citizens? No, bikie gangs fighting each other, and the criminal element. Innocent people are more likely to be attacked by a gun weilding criminal now than when there was a chance the citizen held a gun and could defend themselves.
The forced disarming of the countries innocent is the biggest disgrace to a country that likes to think of itself as “free and democratic”.
Don’t let it happen to you America.
TO: Television Spy
RE: Maybe….
….he’s looking for greater ‘diversity’?
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Gun Control: The insane theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to a cop how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.]
the purpose is typical of liberals. It doesn’t matter if you actually accomplish anything as long as you feel good about it. its like compact fluorescent bulbs, the environmental harm they pose is far greater than the carbon they eliminate and that’s assuming you believe that really accomplishes anything. But you FEEL like you are doing something to save Mother Earth!
Arthur,
Please go tell your fellow comrades at IANSA that the reason the USA has the “highest murder rate of the Western world” is because we have the highest population of the Western world and that our per capita murder rate is by far the lowest in the Western world. Canada our northerly neighbor has a per capita murder rate much higher than the USA despite repressive handgun laws. So don’t worry we “mentally retarded” Americans won’t be shooting ourselves to extinction anytime soon.
Peace.
#32 Jigs – Careful there. When you generalize by saying “You Americans …” that is where you get into trouble.
The fact is that it is mostly lib retards in our country who have a grand vision of utopia here on earth. They are the ones who believe that disarmament will ever be possible. BHO is pursuing along the lines of his goals to bring the big, bad USA down a few pegs.
Then you tie in “most” Americans desire to continue to maintain their own weapon, or live in reality and want/need our government to maintain nukes for MAD. Anyone who believes that if the US disarms our enemies will do the same belongs in an asylum.
Just like with abortion or global warming, there is no “consensus” in our country that disarmament is a good thing and therefore, no hypocrisy.
Arthur,
Please go tell your fellow comrades at IANSA that the reason the USA has the “highest murder rate of the Western world” is because we have the highest population of the Western world and that our per capita murder rate is by far the lowest in the Western world. Canada our northerly neighbor has a per capita murder rate much higher than the USA despite repressive handgun laws. So don’t worry we “mentally retarded” Americans won’t be shooting ourselves to extinction anytime soon.
Peace.
#42 Paul Goss:
Yep, wait until all those mercury filled “Gore Bulbs” start ending up in the land fill, poisoning the drinking water, etc.
Not to forget the soon to be “Amabo,” the car made from recylced fecal material that turns to, well, you get the picture, when it rains.
#33 Arthur – I see a lot of lib talking points in your post. Despite your low opinion of Americans, some of us would like to see to evidence/data” to support your position. So prove it.
I don’t know where you live but here in America, with rights come responsibilities. In any large population, i.e. 300+ million people, there are undoubtedly those who are criminals, irresponsible and regrettable incidences of familial shootings. But if you do some research, if it is not too much trouble, you will find that gun ownership is not the evil the left portrays.
Otherwise, it sounds like you are pretty sour on life (like most libs) and want controls put on those who relish, enjoy life and freedom. Since you hate America so much, why do you bother to even spend your time talking about it. Just stay where you are and let us kill each other, as you put it. If you are living in our great country, then get the hell out!
Just more proof of why cali is broke. Idiots !!
Who is going to protect the compliant elderly who have given up their self defense? Certainly not the police. The courts have ruled that law enforcement is not required to protect people. (forget “serve and protect” these days – no offense intended to those in law enforcement – that’s just the way it is) Firearms are used in self defense( more often than not displaying the firearm is enough to end a criminal attack) quite frequently. The number of accidental shootings pales in comparison.
50 % of my immediate family have been victims of violent crime. I carry. I sure hope that if someone attacks me intending great bodily harm or worse to me, he dies at my hand. Of course, I hope even more, that no one ever attacks me. But like they say, better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
You guys with your multiple guns know a little bit about how some women feel about shoes !!!! ; ^ )
The Founders’ intent behind the 2nd Amendment ranges far beyond the practicalities of home and personal defense. Over the years I have noticed that when foreigners start shooting off their mouths about guns in the U.S. they display a glaring lack of awareness of our Constitution.
The 2nd Amendment was intended so that the people could be the mailed fist defense of liberty, not the government have the mailed fist to destroy liberty.
And that is the real reason why the libtards and Marxists are so eager to disarm us. Once they disarm us, they can dominate us. Trust me. I know these people on the Left, since I used to be an aspiring academic Marxist many years ago. When they are among themselves they let down their guard and reveal why they really want the 2nd Amendment gone: they know they cannot impose their ideology on us unless they take away our ability to fight back. You see, they don’t believe in fair fights. They will only fight when they perceive that they have every advantage and there is no chance of them losing.
Hide your weapons and ammo. Obonga, Holder, and Homeland Security will be coming after them as soon as they get Congressional approval to do so and the Court is cowed into going along with it.
33. Arthur:
“Lowering the number of guns in a community reduces the number of people who get shot. A gun purchased for protection is more likely to result in an accidental shooting than for protection.”
Indeed ‘Arthur’, and don’t forget to ban box cutters and fingernail clippers… the 9/11 terrorist’s weapons of choice.
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
P.S. Cars kill people too. Anyone who drives a car is a possible killer on the loose. Drive at your own risk and mine.
45. middleagedpatriot:”Canada our northerly neighbor has a per capita murder rate much higher than the USA despite repressive handgun laws.”
Actually Canada’s murder rate is not very different from the USA murder rate except for a few states, AL,LA,SC,DC, which distort the stats. DC’s murder rate is one of the highest in the world; NH & SD are close to the lowest. Manitoba’s murder rate is 5x greater than NH. If it weren’t for DC, the US murder rate would be similar to Canada, but when DC is included, Canada wins the lowest murder rate contest. Source: 2006 FBI stats on Wikipedia
Where else in America can you sell scrap metal for $100.00 a pound?
Besides, I’ll bet strong-arm robberies by old ladies will start declining any day now…
#52 Is it just me or is anyone else wondering why DC has such a high murder rate? Does Washington just attract a certain kind of person, or is it the water or some other environmental factor?
“Buybacks” aren’t necessarily a bad idea, if what comes in are firearms that could actually endanger the shooter. Guns are just a tool, and tools DO outlive their usefulness. Certainly unwanted guns can always be turned over to your local law enforcement, but getting some money for something that doesn’t work…well, we ARE a capitalist society, after all, so for the most part it’s a “no harm, no foul”.
But to tout them a means of reducing crime is ridiculous. As has been pointed out, it’s a fine way to get rid of evidence, and it is also a fine way to get Americans used to the idea that handing over their 2nd Amendment rights is ok, too.
I personally wouldn’t go along with such a thing.
http://smokebreak.blogshevik.com/2009/05/24/gitmo-guns-and-goodness/
A Dave said “…your right to compensate for a lack of manhood by owning something designed strictly for killing…”
You know, it is really weird that I have 97 guns and have been a competitive shooter, hunter and gun collector for over 30 years.
Strangely none of my guns have ever hurt any one…they really must be defective if the only thing the are designed for (strictly, mind you) is killing.
I should get my money back.
Oh…Dave, here’s a hint. If you immediately have to go for the “compensate for the lack of manhood arguement”…it means you’ve already lost the debate.
Try again, cupcake, and leave the logic for the adults in the room.
Kris
My favorite is the gun clubs in Central Illinois that collect junker guns and then go up to Chicago to “turn them in” for $100 gift cards.
They take those gift cards and buy new, serviceable guns that they use for youth shooting safety and hunter education programs.
Classic.
The murder rate in DC might have something to do with the fact that DC has most likely(until lately) the strictest gun laws on the books. Not being allowed to have a working firearm in your home. it might also have something to do with the local drug trade.
#54 TomF:
“#52 Is it just me or is anyone else wondering why DC has such a high murder rate? ”
Me too. I grew up in suburban DC, and I figured they’d have done run out of mofo’s to kill YEARS ago.
Where is John Lott when we need him? He must begin to preach the value of firearm ownership to the masses, and he can start with my wife. I really would like a nice 9 mm to protect myself from the parolees, probationers, and illegals who surround me.
Jigs #32: “You want nuclear disarmarment in the rest of the world, but you don’t want to disarm yourselves. Hypocrisy.”
No, we don’t want to disarm ourselves, and that’s pretty much the crux of the “gun wars”. Like everyone else, we know that the last guy with the gun wins. If the government takes away our right to own guns, then the government wins. There’s no hypocrisy involved.
BTW, the right to bear arms isn’t enshrined in our constitution for the purpose of hunting squirrels.
How damn funny is it that a city that exposed itself for being the rotted cess pool of liberal, putrid valueless liberal homos bent over and took it when the scum they claim to love rioted and murdered them? The plan is simple. Disarm and use race riots as a threat to keep you in line.
I know, let’s elect a guy because he looks black! That will solve everything!
REVO-FREAKING-LUTION! Cheney & Palin in 09!!!!!!!!!!
Actually, that header wasn’t written by me. I recognize that as stupid as this was, it wasn’t a disarming of the citizens.
“Canada our northerly neighbor has a per capita murder rate much higher than the USA despite repressive handgun laws.”
This isn’t correct. Canada has a lower murder rate than the US. When you compare demographically equivalent American states and Canadian provinces, the difference largely disappears. While not very PC, the reason is that U.S. white, non-Hispanic murder rates are quite low, comparable to European countries. Young black men murder each other at about ten times the rate of young white men. That’s part of why DC has the horrendous murder rate that it does–while places like Idaho or Montana are equivalent to the bordering Canadian provinces.
“Americans are funny. So frightened of everything – each other, the ‘gays’, home invasions, their own government going rogue. They should be more concerned about corn syrup than gun buybacks.”
I don’t know anyone whose has been held down and forced to drink corn syrup. I know lots of people who have been victims of rape and robbery, and few who have been murdered.
I also don’t know of anyone who is afraid of gays. Disapproval isn’t the same as fear.
I’m not afraid of gun buybacks. As my article points out, it is the stupidity of it that is the problem.
It rather depends on who you persuade to give up their guns. If you persuade people with a felony conviction or mental illness history to give up their guns, your statement may well be true. But for the vast majority of people with no criminal convictions or mental illness problems, the gain by reducing the number of guns is so small that multiple studies have failed to detect it. The average person with a gun isn’t a problem.
No. There is a study that purports to find that a gun is more likely to kill a person who lives in that home than to kill an intruder, and that’s true.
True, but misleading, because most defensive uses of guns (hundreds of thousands per year in the U.S.) don’t end up killing an intruder, but scaring him off, or holding the intruder for police.
In addition, the deaths of residents in that study in King county were overwhelmingly suicides–not murders, and not gun accidents (which are only about 5% of U.S. gun deaths). The applicablity of those results to the general population are also questionable because the survey population was disproportionately poor, black, and living in a part of the country known for high suicide rates. The same data set showed that renting or owning a dog was even a higher risk factor than having a gun.
>The same data set showed that renting or owning a dog was even a higher risk factor than having a gun.
I love it.
BTW – please stop using logic, it really confuses most liberals.
Marik
Sic Semper Tyrannis
A Dave: “Then moan about something important not an imagined attack on your right to compensate for a lack of manhood by owning something designed strictly for killing (there’s no other use)”
Ok, but for killing whom? I mean, if my wife ends up shooting and killing her attacker, are you going to argue that she shouldn’t have done so?
Oh, and she is laughing hysterically at your “lack of manhood” comment. Specifically, the words “what a dolt” were mentioned.
Wonder what happens when the brown shirts working in LA find a reported stolen gun in their “let them buy new guns” buy back program. Return (as the law requires) it to the legal owner or just burn them hoping nobody finds out? More likely the burn, honor and courage are lacking for the most part in Kalifornia. After all with the election of Dear Leader the law is what they say it is today not yesterday. And I say that having been forced to run one of these fascist dog and pony PC shows.
Sence I have actualy used an evil “assult weapon” for defence, I won’t be selling it to the State.
The ulgy things work quite well to convince angry mobs to take themself elsewhere.
Having a gun in hand works far better than a phone.When 911 operator says “Police are 30 minutes away”
They may as well not show up. (to be fair they actualy made it in 15)
Realy everyone is responsible for their own saftey, a gun of whatever type is just part of the required equipment.
The “buy back” programs are just poltical BS, so that liberal police political types can look good to stupid people.
The money spend could be better used to do something usefull. Of couse, that would not make for such a nice photo op.
When seconds count the police are just minutes away
I’ve always wondered if criminals are using these programs to their benefit: go out and commit a crime with a gun (kill someone, shoot someone) then take the gun in and it gets destroyed (no records, no questions asked). Sorry sir, the weapon for this crime cannot be found…
If gun “buy backs” work why hasn’t a “drug buy back” scheme ever been tried? Seems like a big missing opportunity there.
I can’t help but wonder if the guns acquired in this manner aren’t actually checked to see if they were used in a crime. If they were, while “no questions were asked” the payment was made in a completely traceable form…
If it is a “buy back” program, perhaps the guns were either sold or stolen from the police evidence room in the first place?
The good news is that the gift certificates weren’t public money (probably, the police time was) and the buy-back wasn’t forced.
1. The smaller Gun Dealers of Type-01 Should get it too! I”m Talking Class 03 N.F.A. Licence of Type-09 for Small Gun Dealers Busineses too! They Can”t be Trusted at all too.The N.F.A. Applications Will be not as easly to get too! The smaller Gun Dealers Stores is in the 30,000 01 Units Retalers Dealers too! The Class-03 is for the Discision for the Letter Approval by the Siginature: Town, Township, Citie Police Chiefs of Police Departments only to Request An Applications For a Type-09 N.F.A. Class-03 Retailer Licence With a Black Stamp Tax Number only at Right Hand Conner only too! The Chief of Police Can approved of a Approval Letter: or Cut it buy Denied Class-01 Any Dealers Regular Request by Law of , Town, Township, Cities, Country Sheriffis Dept. Or By the State Police, Or the Highway Patrolled State Police too! Or by the: F.B.I. Or the A.T.F.E.A. Divisions Sattle Offices Directors Section Chiefs Officers Of operations of All Renuals F.F.L.s Licences Applications Dept.s in 50 States too! It’s For a Class-03″s is Type-09 Fullauto”Dealers Licences too! Rules do applyed Illegal Non Citizens included too! Agreed!!!
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