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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree with the idea that one cannot be a fiscal conservative without first accepting the dogma of the so-called social-conservative.  Albeit, I do agree with the idea that in order for fiscal conservatism to imply meaning beyond mere rhetoric then strength of character is a necessary ingredient.  The problem with political labels concerns perceptions and I gather the preceding argument is predicated on the assumption that the only reasonable path to achieve this strength of character is through submission to the word and I suppose the example of Christ.  The theologians may choose different words but this I think really is the big idea that a “social-conservative” is necessarily a good Christian and of sufficient character, hopefully to actually meet the test imposed by fiscal conservatism.  I can see how Christianity could well reveal a kind of path to achieve this strength of character.  But I do not maintain this is the only path.  There are things that bring libertarians and conservatives together.  Both conservatives and libertarians speak glowingly of a legacy enshrined by the struggles of our founding fathers in pursuit of certain natural rights and constitutional principles. We are populists without our libertarian brothers and sisters and we are anarchists without our conservative brothers and sisters.  Notice the effort in the above throw away line to make pains to include both genders in this movement as a shinning example of the sway political correctness still holds on our popular couture.  A conservative is after all the chief guardian of our language, of our borders and naturally what else but out culture.  The so-called left imposes a significant threat to the vitality of that culture we share.  


That culture will wither on the vine should cultural relativism, political correctness and last but not least moral relativism succeed in poisoning the next generation.  The subject of personal responsibility necessary in order to actually meet pay roles and balance budgets is inversely related to political correctness because this particular poison demands surrender to all else so as to avoid the risk of causing offense to any particular group and demands we identify ourselves by membership in a group with the affect of washing away our individuality.  Cultural Marxism is revealed in the idea that family is bougiase ownership hence the focus in the current healthcare debate over tax-funded abortion in order to pave the path to parental licensing laws, a one-child like policy like that in China, forced sterilizations, and not merely abortion on demand but on command along with sanctioned infanticide, and the seizure of children form their parents whom might interfere with their indoctrination.  And naturally moral relativism portends away the idea that there is a difference between right and wrong.  Garry Johnson is my first choice for President followed by Mitt Romney and then I suppose either Sarah Palin or even Tim Palentey but then I would vote for a common pan-handler over the man who would throw me in jail for not enrolling in the correct health plan, who banned flavored tobacco and who supports tax-payer-funded abortions.   The independence of mind and spirit of the liberation of our souls from progressive slavery to collectivism and humanist dribble is what is at stake.  “Yes we can,” but so what?  More importantly, you can and I can.  Capitalism offers no alter to worship or offer ritual sacrifice to but simply reveals the freedom to live the life you and I are both are capable of carving out and making an effort at.  That freedom is in danger with the policies of Obama and the democratically controlled Congress.  We are squabbling over drugs and prostitution as if the 10th amendment were not the singular issue and as if federalism was not our bond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree with the idea that one cannot be a fiscal conservative without first accepting the dogma of the so-called social-conservative.  Albeit, I do agree with the idea that in order for fiscal conservatism to imply meaning beyond mere rhetoric then strength of character is a necessary ingredient.  The problem with political labels concerns perceptions and I gather the preceding argument is predicated on the assumption that the only reasonable path to achieve this strength of character is through submission to the word and I suppose the example of Christ.  The theologians may choose different words but this I think really is the big idea that a “social-conservative” is necessarily a good Christian and of sufficient character, hopefully to actually meet the test imposed by fiscal conservatism.  I can see how Christianity could well reveal a kind of path to achieve this strength of character.  But I do not maintain this is the only path.  There are things that bring libertarians and conservatives together.  Both conservatives and libertarians speak glowingly of a legacy enshrined by the struggles of our founding fathers in pursuit of certain natural rights and constitutional principles. We are populists without our libertarian brothers and sisters and we are anarchists without our conservative brothers and sisters.  Notice the effort in the above throw away line to make pains to include both genders in this movement as a shinning example of the sway political correctness still holds on our popular couture.  A conservative is after all the chief guardian of our language, of our borders and naturally what else but out culture.  The so-called left imposes a significant threat to the vitality of that culture we share.  </p>
<p>That culture will wither on the vine should cultural relativism, political correctness and last but not least moral relativism succeed in poisoning the next generation.  The subject of personal responsibility necessary in order to actually meet pay roles and balance budgets is inversely related to political correctness because this particular poison demands surrender to all else so as to avoid the risk of causing offense to any particular group and demands we identify ourselves by membership in a group with the affect of washing away our individuality.  Cultural Marxism is revealed in the idea that family is bougiase ownership hence the focus in the current healthcare debate over tax-funded abortion in order to pave the path to parental licensing laws, a one-child like policy like that in China, forced sterilizations, and not merely abortion on demand but on command along with sanctioned infanticide, and the seizure of children form their parents whom might interfere with their indoctrination.  And naturally moral relativism portends away the idea that there is a difference between right and wrong.  Garry Johnson is my first choice for President followed by Mitt Romney and then I suppose either Sarah Palin or even Tim Palentey but then I would vote for a common pan-handler over the man who would throw me in jail for not enrolling in the correct health plan, who banned flavored tobacco and who supports tax-payer-funded abortions.   The independence of mind and spirit of the liberation of our souls from progressive slavery to collectivism and humanist dribble is what is at stake.  “Yes we can,” but so what?  More importantly, you can and I can.  Capitalism offers no alter to worship or offer ritual sacrifice to but simply reveals the freedom to live the life you and I are both are capable of carving out and making an effort at.  That freedom is in danger with the policies of Obama and the democratically controlled Congress.  We are squabbling over drugs and prostitution as if the 10th amendment were not the singular issue and as if federalism was not our bond.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara DiNicola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara DiNicola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I voted for Ross Perot, he ended up getting over 19% of the votes, while we were told there was NO WAY he could get over 10%...So it shows right there that MANY people did not vote for him, intimidated by the Mainstream Media, afraid to waste their vote....If those who wanted him, but did not vote for him, HAD voted for him, he could have won!!!!!!!!!!!!....I&#039;m so tired of hearing someone is supposedly &quot;unelectable&quot;....What does that mean except that we should be manipulated by political correctness (NOT MY PARTY OF CHOICE!!!)...I&#039;m sick of a Two-Party system ruling my choices....If there&#039;s anything the internet has taught us is that we&#039;re NOT ALONE in our thoughts for Liberty &amp; Freedom, and we&#039;re NOT ALONE in our fears of eugenics politics and a Police State to back it up....Our main stream media does not even bother reporting that provocateurs were the only ones committing violence at the G20 protests, and that many students were gassed/beat up who weren&#039;t even in on the protest....The black-jack police overstepped their bounds onto the college campus and also the mall connected to the protest route, even hitting old women &amp; children....People are crazy to think they can only get &quot;official&quot; news from MSM....It&#039;s actually the opposite, you can be SURE to get a slanted view of things from the MSM....WHY SHOULD WE GIVE UP ONE THING WE BELIEVE IN JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SAYS IT&#039;S &quot;UNELECTABLE&quot;???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I voted for Ross Perot, he ended up getting over 19% of the votes, while we were told there was NO WAY he could get over 10%&#8230;So it shows right there that MANY people did not vote for him, intimidated by the Mainstream Media, afraid to waste their vote&#8230;.If those who wanted him, but did not vote for him, HAD voted for him, he could have won!!!!!!!!!!!!&#8230;.I&#8217;m so tired of hearing someone is supposedly &#8220;unelectable&#8221;&#8230;.What does that mean except that we should be manipulated by political correctness (NOT MY PARTY OF CHOICE!!!)&#8230;I&#8217;m sick of a Two-Party system ruling my choices&#8230;.If there&#8217;s anything the internet has taught us is that we&#8217;re NOT ALONE in our thoughts for Liberty &amp; Freedom, and we&#8217;re NOT ALONE in our fears of eugenics politics and a Police State to back it up&#8230;.Our main stream media does not even bother reporting that provocateurs were the only ones committing violence at the G20 protests, and that many students were gassed/beat up who weren&#8217;t even in on the protest&#8230;.The black-jack police overstepped their bounds onto the college campus and also the mall connected to the protest route, even hitting old women &amp; children&#8230;.People are crazy to think they can only get &#8220;official&#8221; news from MSM&#8230;.It&#8217;s actually the opposite, you can be SURE to get a slanted view of things from the MSM&#8230;.WHY SHOULD WE GIVE UP ONE THING WE BELIEVE IN JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE SAYS IT&#8217;S &#8220;UNELECTABLE&#8221;???</p>
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		<title>By: MikeI</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/america-heres-your-change-candidate-for-2012/#comment-454932</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one thing i can&#039;t stand is how certain uninformed people can see the complexly intelligent and courageous position of ending the war on drugs as simply &quot;college kids wanting to legalize pot.&quot; Its is a when people don&#039;t decry prohibition they are allowing the steady erosion of civil liberties as well as the rampant corruption that it brings. Anyone who supports the prosecution of victimless crimes is a tyrant. Here are some unfortunate victims of a campaign to &quot;save the children&quot; from drug use. http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/ When the argument boils down, it has nothing to do with the various dangers of drug use, but it becomes about the government controlling what you can and cannot do to you&#039;re own body. And please, stop with the straw-man arguments, if heroin was legal, would you shoot up everyday? Almost all people would say no. But the people who willingly to do that to themselves should not have to deal with blood-borne disease and accidental overdose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one thing i can&#8217;t stand is how certain uninformed people can see the complexly intelligent and courageous position of ending the war on drugs as simply &#8220;college kids wanting to legalize pot.&#8221; Its is a when people don&#8217;t decry prohibition they are allowing the steady erosion of civil liberties as well as the rampant corruption that it brings. Anyone who supports the prosecution of victimless crimes is a tyrant. Here are some unfortunate victims of a campaign to &#8220;save the children&#8221; from drug use. <a href="http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/" rel="nofollow">http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/</a> When the argument boils down, it has nothing to do with the various dangers of drug use, but it becomes about the government controlling what you can and cannot do to you&#8217;re own body. And please, stop with the straw-man arguments, if heroin was legal, would you shoot up everyday? Almost all people would say no. But the people who willingly to do that to themselves should not have to deal with blood-borne disease and accidental overdose.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckW</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MWB: spot on re: overspending.  About the only things that will get the attention of the current reckless spenders in Washington are: 1. Ousting ALL incumbents in the voting booth; or 2. Complete financial collapse.  I&#039;m praying for the former, but there is one more, although unlikely, possibility.  That is passage of a balanced budget amendment.  Look at the States that have balanced budget laws - they only spend what they take in (steal/confiscate?) and rarely experience deficits.
Until one of these things happens, the extravagant, reckless spending will continue until we are bankrupt and/or people go back to living off the land &amp; the barter system. Yes, this may seem like an extreme view, but history shows us that empires don&#039;t last forever, and if Congress keeps us on its&#039; current kamikaze course, we&#039;re doomed.  History occurs first as tragedy, then repeats itself as farce.  Pelosi, Reid &amp; Obama are about as close to farce as you can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MWB: spot on re: overspending.  About the only things that will get the attention of the current reckless spenders in Washington are: 1. Ousting ALL incumbents in the voting booth; or 2. Complete financial collapse.  I&#8217;m praying for the former, but there is one more, although unlikely, possibility.  That is passage of a balanced budget amendment.  Look at the States that have balanced budget laws &#8211; they only spend what they take in (steal/confiscate?) and rarely experience deficits.<br />
Until one of these things happens, the extravagant, reckless spending will continue until we are bankrupt and/or people go back to living off the land &amp; the barter system. Yes, this may seem like an extreme view, but history shows us that empires don&#8217;t last forever, and if Congress keeps us on its&#8217; current kamikaze course, we&#8217;re doomed.  History occurs first as tragedy, then repeats itself as farce.  Pelosi, Reid &amp; Obama are about as close to farce as you can get.</p>
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		<title>By: MWB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MWB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some really good arguments on both sides.  First I consider myself fiscally conservative yet liberal on many fronts at the same time.  We seem to be arguing about things that really won&#039;t have a large impact.  That is the foundation of politics today.  We align with 1 or 2 hot topics that are sensationalized by the press.  

1)  Legalization of Marijuana  (Can be argued by all, but math prevails and it is cheaper to legalize and control/tax than fight a war that isn&#039;t winnable and in fact has been decriminalized in many areas)

2)  Gay Marriage (Really a personal opinion,  Those inclined towards Religion are against, most are for it or don&#039;t really care.  Either way it has no real impact to the nation.)

3)  Abortion (Really a personal opinion as well, I am against it for me, but realize that an unwanted child aborted is better in the long term as statistically shown in the decrease in crime roughly 20 years after ROE v. WADE was passed.  Should be up to the individual, but not subsidized.

4)  Continue to add to the list....  

The key issue is OVERSPENDING....  By the Government, States and Citizens.  The American Consumer Debt coupled with liberal programs that allow individuals to live off government subsidies in the many forms is removing the US from being a political force in the world.  The dollar continues to weaken against all major currencies yet we continue to spend, be it healthcare for the masses or a new Flat Screen just in time for the Super Bowl.

Those of us who pay taxes are bearing to heavy a load.  I currently live in NJ and the combined tax rate for me and my family is above 50% and that excludes sales tax.

We must hold ourselves and our government (state, local, federal) accountable for overspending.  
There are no magic bullets, we cannot continue to print money that is only backed by US reputation.

I have yet to see a party or candidate that has ideas or a platform to truly reform our nation. 

MWB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really good arguments on both sides.  First I consider myself fiscally conservative yet liberal on many fronts at the same time.  We seem to be arguing about things that really won&#8217;t have a large impact.  That is the foundation of politics today.  We align with 1 or 2 hot topics that are sensationalized by the press.  </p>
<p>1)  Legalization of Marijuana  (Can be argued by all, but math prevails and it is cheaper to legalize and control/tax than fight a war that isn&#8217;t winnable and in fact has been decriminalized in many areas)</p>
<p>2)  Gay Marriage (Really a personal opinion,  Those inclined towards Religion are against, most are for it or don&#8217;t really care.  Either way it has no real impact to the nation.)</p>
<p>3)  Abortion (Really a personal opinion as well, I am against it for me, but realize that an unwanted child aborted is better in the long term as statistically shown in the decrease in crime roughly 20 years after ROE v. WADE was passed.  Should be up to the individual, but not subsidized.</p>
<p>4)  Continue to add to the list&#8230;.  </p>
<p>The key issue is OVERSPENDING&#8230;.  By the Government, States and Citizens.  The American Consumer Debt coupled with liberal programs that allow individuals to live off government subsidies in the many forms is removing the US from being a political force in the world.  The dollar continues to weaken against all major currencies yet we continue to spend, be it healthcare for the masses or a new Flat Screen just in time for the Super Bowl.</p>
<p>Those of us who pay taxes are bearing to heavy a load.  I currently live in NJ and the combined tax rate for me and my family is above 50% and that excludes sales tax.</p>
<p>We must hold ourselves and our government (state, local, federal) accountable for overspending.<br />
There are no magic bullets, we cannot continue to print money that is only backed by US reputation.</p>
<p>I have yet to see a party or candidate that has ideas or a platform to truly reform our nation. </p>
<p>MWB</p>
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		<title>By: David K. Meller</title>
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		<dc:creator>David K. Meller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our prospects in the GOP are limited because unfortunately there are a large number of Republicans,(especially jobholders), who are as committed to the NWO, the imperium Americana, and even the Dem&#039;s welfare state, and who will vote for--and support--anybody but Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Peter Schiff, or anyone else that we have to offer! 

It is immensely difficult for a person to change philosophy and politics in adulthood, especially when a large amount of one&#039;s personal identity is obtained by seeing oneself as a &quot;warrior for democracy&quot; or a &quot;fighter against oppression&quot;. How hard would it have been for you or I to vote for, and campaign for, e.g. John McCain, Barack Obama, or Hillary Clinton? Their supporters suffer from the same tunnel vision.

Instead of searching for standard Republicans,  our movement can successfully expand by looking for, and talking to, already disaffected voters, marginalized GOPers, self-described independents--who see the obvious flaws in both), and even ex-Democrats! There will probably be a considerable number of them after four years of an Obama Presidency, which promises to be at least as wretched as those of his three predecesors! Reminding the Democrats that they were once a largely libertarian (or at least libertarian inclined) party from the Presidency of Jefferson (1801) to the Presidency of Grover Cleveland(1896) would give a long overdue tone of libertarianism to the two party system. This will of course, do nothing for the entrenched Democrats, especially jobholders, but it might inspire many disaffected and newcomers, just as Ron Paul tried to do in &#039;08 with his references to the &quot;Old Right&quot; of the GOP. At the very least, we will greatly expand the base of what will become a &quot;politics of freedom&quot; in the USA, and perhaps around the world!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our prospects in the GOP are limited because unfortunately there are a large number of Republicans,(especially jobholders), who are as committed to the NWO, the imperium Americana, and even the Dem&#8217;s welfare state, and who will vote for&#8211;and support&#8211;anybody but Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Peter Schiff, or anyone else that we have to offer! </p>
<p>It is immensely difficult for a person to change philosophy and politics in adulthood, especially when a large amount of one&#8217;s personal identity is obtained by seeing oneself as a &#8220;warrior for democracy&#8221; or a &#8220;fighter against oppression&#8221;. How hard would it have been for you or I to vote for, and campaign for, e.g. John McCain, Barack Obama, or Hillary Clinton? Their supporters suffer from the same tunnel vision.</p>
<p>Instead of searching for standard Republicans,  our movement can successfully expand by looking for, and talking to, already disaffected voters, marginalized GOPers, self-described independents&#8211;who see the obvious flaws in both), and even ex-Democrats! There will probably be a considerable number of them after four years of an Obama Presidency, which promises to be at least as wretched as those of his three predecesors! Reminding the Democrats that they were once a largely libertarian (or at least libertarian inclined) party from the Presidency of Jefferson (1801) to the Presidency of Grover Cleveland(1896) would give a long overdue tone of libertarianism to the two party system. This will of course, do nothing for the entrenched Democrats, especially jobholders, but it might inspire many disaffected and newcomers, just as Ron Paul tried to do in &#8217;08 with his references to the &#8220;Old Right&#8221; of the GOP. At the very least, we will greatly expand the base of what will become a &#8220;politics of freedom&#8221; in the USA, and perhaps around the world!</p>
<p>PEACE AND FREEDOM!!<br />
David K. Meller</p>
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		<title>By: Starchild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Keller (#148) puts it extremely well. I would only add that the problem is not tyranny in the United States (to be concerned about tyranny only in one&#039;s &quot;own&quot; country is nationalism, which is a form of collectivism and therefore ultimately at odds with individual liberty), but tyranny anywhere in the world. As Martin Luther King said, &quot;Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.&quot; And as the U.S. Declaration of Independence put it (or would have in the less sexist language of today), &quot;All human beings are created equal&quot; and therefore deserve equal rights under the law, regardless of where they live or which government claims jurisdiction over them. We should not excuse human rights abuses, civil liberties violations, and lack of democracy with terms like &quot;cultural differences.&quot; Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the oppressed. Our rejection of American Empire should not lead us (and by &#039;us&#039; I mean freedom lovers) to support, by doing nothing, tyrannies and human rights abuses in other countries. What we need is a renewed spirit of American volunteerism like that which existed at the time of the Spanish Civil War when American volunteers formed the Abraham Lincoln Brigade to go and fight fascism, or earlier, when a patriot like Thomas Paine, having helped the United States throw off the yoke of British monarchy, went to Britain and began agitating for liberty there, until he was forced to leave the country, at which time he went to France and helped bring about the French Revolution.

Other than that, I almost entirely concur with David&#039;s terrific comments:

&quot;Gary Johnson’s limited government positions are praiseworthy, and I certainly hope that he continues to “fight the good fight”. However, I am not sure that he is as aware as Ron Paul, and many other Libertarians and Constitutional conservatives that Foreign policy, monetary policy, and tax policy are at the crux of American tyranny!

It is in fighting a global crusade, whether the so-called ” war-on-drugs”, war-on-terror, war for democrazy, and so on, that anesthitizes Americans as to the loss of our rights! People yield to police powers in wartime, or even in a state of war preparation, that we would never tolerate in peacetime. Ron Paul insists we give up our empire. Does Gary Johnson?

Inflation and central banking, with its accompanying deficit spending allows a government to create, and spend, far more money than it could otherwise extort from its citizens through open extortion and blatant theft of taxation. It lowers our standard of living, makes us dependent upon banking and mortgage loansharks, and makes serious saving almost impossible. It also functions as a wealth redistribution racket where the goverment acts as a “bagman” for the bankers, their client bailout corporations, the military-industrial complex, and the rest of the criminal element in our society! Does Mr.Johnson know this? If not, he should really learn before he re-enters politics.

Taxation, especially the income tax, but also the so-called ‘fair tax’, and “flat tax” and other ridiculous substitutes, is nothing but legalized slavery, theft, and extortion writ large! It is an enforced claim on the fruits of your labor, by people whose signature claim is that they have NOTHING to openly and honestly TRADE with you! It is not any sort of contract entered into with mutual advantage and mutual respect, it is literally “your money or (many years of) your life! Taxation exemplifies not the relationship between one sovereign citizen and another, but the interaction between a beast of burden and its owner! Does Gary Johnson understand this and how willing is he to inform his fellow Americans?

Gary Johnson sounds like an attractive and personable candidate, perhaps even for the Presidency. His unambiguous call for an end the egregious enforcement of a major category of laws, e.g. drugs, gambling,and prostitution, among others, suggest that he has welcome and strong libertarian instincts. The enforcement of such laws has done its part into making America a prison State filled with “crimeless victims”! However, I think that he has a ways to go.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Keller (#148) puts it extremely well. I would only add that the problem is not tyranny in the United States (to be concerned about tyranny only in one&#8217;s &#8220;own&#8221; country is nationalism, which is a form of collectivism and therefore ultimately at odds with individual liberty), but tyranny anywhere in the world. As Martin Luther King said, &#8220;Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.&#8221; And as the U.S. Declaration of Independence put it (or would have in the less sexist language of today), &#8220;All human beings are created equal&#8221; and therefore deserve equal rights under the law, regardless of where they live or which government claims jurisdiction over them. We should not excuse human rights abuses, civil liberties violations, and lack of democracy with terms like &#8220;cultural differences.&#8221; Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the oppressed. Our rejection of American Empire should not lead us (and by &#8216;us&#8217; I mean freedom lovers) to support, by doing nothing, tyrannies and human rights abuses in other countries. What we need is a renewed spirit of American volunteerism like that which existed at the time of the Spanish Civil War when American volunteers formed the Abraham Lincoln Brigade to go and fight fascism, or earlier, when a patriot like Thomas Paine, having helped the United States throw off the yoke of British monarchy, went to Britain and began agitating for liberty there, until he was forced to leave the country, at which time he went to France and helped bring about the French Revolution.</p>
<p>Other than that, I almost entirely concur with David&#8217;s terrific comments:</p>
<p>&#8220;Gary Johnson’s limited government positions are praiseworthy, and I certainly hope that he continues to “fight the good fight”. However, I am not sure that he is as aware as Ron Paul, and many other Libertarians and Constitutional conservatives that Foreign policy, monetary policy, and tax policy are at the crux of American tyranny!</p>
<p>It is in fighting a global crusade, whether the so-called ” war-on-drugs”, war-on-terror, war for democrazy, and so on, that anesthitizes Americans as to the loss of our rights! People yield to police powers in wartime, or even in a state of war preparation, that we would never tolerate in peacetime. Ron Paul insists we give up our empire. Does Gary Johnson?</p>
<p>Inflation and central banking, with its accompanying deficit spending allows a government to create, and spend, far more money than it could otherwise extort from its citizens through open extortion and blatant theft of taxation. It lowers our standard of living, makes us dependent upon banking and mortgage loansharks, and makes serious saving almost impossible. It also functions as a wealth redistribution racket where the goverment acts as a “bagman” for the bankers, their client bailout corporations, the military-industrial complex, and the rest of the criminal element in our society! Does Mr.Johnson know this? If not, he should really learn before he re-enters politics.</p>
<p>Taxation, especially the income tax, but also the so-called ‘fair tax’, and “flat tax” and other ridiculous substitutes, is nothing but legalized slavery, theft, and extortion writ large! It is an enforced claim on the fruits of your labor, by people whose signature claim is that they have NOTHING to openly and honestly TRADE with you! It is not any sort of contract entered into with mutual advantage and mutual respect, it is literally “your money or (many years of) your life! Taxation exemplifies not the relationship between one sovereign citizen and another, but the interaction between a beast of burden and its owner! Does Gary Johnson understand this and how willing is he to inform his fellow Americans?</p>
<p>Gary Johnson sounds like an attractive and personable candidate, perhaps even for the Presidency. His unambiguous call for an end the egregious enforcement of a major category of laws, e.g. drugs, gambling,and prostitution, among others, suggest that he has welcome and strong libertarian instincts. The enforcement of such laws has done its part into making America a prison State filled with “crimeless victims”! However, I think that he has a ways to go.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kipling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kipling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to henry @ 147:  The question is not whether social conservatives would vote for Paul over Obama.  Election victory depends on a lot more than just votes.  You want the base to be excited about a candidate, to contribute to his campaign, and to help get out the vote.  Sure most social conservatives would vote for Paul over Obama but what about the other two activities.  I would not donate to Paul and the best endorsement I could offer is that at least he is not Mr. Obama, something that could be said of Joe Biden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to henry @ 147:  The question is not whether social conservatives would vote for Paul over Obama.  Election victory depends on a lot more than just votes.  You want the base to be excited about a candidate, to contribute to his campaign, and to help get out the vote.  Sure most social conservatives would vote for Paul over Obama but what about the other two activities.  I would not donate to Paul and the best endorsement I could offer is that at least he is not Mr. Obama, something that could be said of Joe Biden.</p>
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		<title>By: David K.  Meller</title>
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		<dc:creator>David K.  Meller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Johnson&#039;s limited government positions are praiseworthy, and I certainly hope that he continues to &quot;fight the good fight&quot;. However, I am not sure that he is as aware as Ron Paul, and many other Libertarians and Constitutional conservatives that Foreign policy, monetary policy, and tax policy are at the crux of American tyranny!

It is in fighting a global crusade, whether the so-called &quot; war-on-drugs&quot;, war-on-terror, war for democrazy, and so on, that anesthitizes Americans as to the loss of our rights! People yield to police powers in wartime, or even in a state of war preparation, that we would never tolerate in peacetime. Ron Paul insists we give up our empire. Does Gary Johnson?

Inflation and central banking, with its accompanying deficit spending allows a government to create, and spend, far more money than it could otherwise extort from its citizens through open extortion and blatant theft of taxation. It lowers our standard of living, makes us dependent upon banking and mortgage loansharks, and makes serious saving almost impossible. It also functions as a wealth redistribution racket where the goverment acts as a &quot;bagman&quot; for the bankers, their client bailout corporations, the military-industrial complex, and the rest of the criminal element in our society! Does Mr.Johnson know this? If not, he should really learn before he re-enters politics.

Taxation, especially the income tax, but also the so-called &#039;fair tax&#039;, and &quot;flat tax&quot; and other ridiculous substitutes, is nothing but legalized slavery, theft, and extortion writ large! It is an enforced claim on the fruits of your labor, by people whose signature claim is that they have NOTHING to openly and honestly TRADE with you! It is not any sort of contract entered into with mutual advantage and mutual respect, it is literally &quot;your money or (many years of) your life! Taxation exemplifies not the relationship between one sovereign citizen and another, but the interaction between a beast of burden and its owner! Does Gary Johnson understand this and how willing is he to inform his fellow Americans?

Gary Johnson sounds like an attractive and personable candidate, perhaps even for the Presidency. His unambiguous call for an end the egregious enforcement of a major category of laws, e.g. drugs, gambling,and prostitution, among others, suggest that he has welcome and strong libertarian instincts. The enforcement of such laws has done its part into making America a prison State filled with &quot;crimeless victims&quot;! However, I think that he has a ways to go.

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Johnson&#8217;s limited government positions are praiseworthy, and I certainly hope that he continues to &#8220;fight the good fight&#8221;. However, I am not sure that he is as aware as Ron Paul, and many other Libertarians and Constitutional conservatives that Foreign policy, monetary policy, and tax policy are at the crux of American tyranny!</p>
<p>It is in fighting a global crusade, whether the so-called &#8221; war-on-drugs&#8221;, war-on-terror, war for democrazy, and so on, that anesthitizes Americans as to the loss of our rights! People yield to police powers in wartime, or even in a state of war preparation, that we would never tolerate in peacetime. Ron Paul insists we give up our empire. Does Gary Johnson?</p>
<p>Inflation and central banking, with its accompanying deficit spending allows a government to create, and spend, far more money than it could otherwise extort from its citizens through open extortion and blatant theft of taxation. It lowers our standard of living, makes us dependent upon banking and mortgage loansharks, and makes serious saving almost impossible. It also functions as a wealth redistribution racket where the goverment acts as a &#8220;bagman&#8221; for the bankers, their client bailout corporations, the military-industrial complex, and the rest of the criminal element in our society! Does Mr.Johnson know this? If not, he should really learn before he re-enters politics.</p>
<p>Taxation, especially the income tax, but also the so-called &#8216;fair tax&#8217;, and &#8220;flat tax&#8221; and other ridiculous substitutes, is nothing but legalized slavery, theft, and extortion writ large! It is an enforced claim on the fruits of your labor, by people whose signature claim is that they have NOTHING to openly and honestly TRADE with you! It is not any sort of contract entered into with mutual advantage and mutual respect, it is literally &#8220;your money or (many years of) your life! Taxation exemplifies not the relationship between one sovereign citizen and another, but the interaction between a beast of burden and its owner! Does Gary Johnson understand this and how willing is he to inform his fellow Americans?</p>
<p>Gary Johnson sounds like an attractive and personable candidate, perhaps even for the Presidency. His unambiguous call for an end the egregious enforcement of a major category of laws, e.g. drugs, gambling,and prostitution, among others, suggest that he has welcome and strong libertarian instincts. The enforcement of such laws has done its part into making America a prison State filled with &#8220;crimeless victims&#8221;! However, I think that he has a ways to go.</p>
<p>PEACE AND FREEDOM!!<br />
David K. Meller</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the choice is Paul/Palin of Obama/Biden who would you vote for?  Would social conservatives vote for Obama over Paul?</description>
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