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All Eyes on Toomey-Manchin Amendment as Reid’s Gun Bill Advances

Text released in advance of vote next week on background check compromise, but conservatives in House want Boehner to use Hastert Rule to block any gun legislation.

Bridget Johnson


April 11, 2013 - 5:59 pm

The 68-31 cloture vote this morning began consideration of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013, which was introduced March 21 and cobbles together a handful of gun-control bills from the 113th Congress: Sen. Pat Leahy’s (D-Vt.) firearms trafficking bill, Mark Warner’s (D-Va.) and Barbara Boxer’s (D-Calif.) “campus safety enhancements,” and Sen. Chuck Schumer’s (D-N.Y.) universal background checks.

Even though the National Rifle Association was scoring today’s cloture vote, a break with tradition for the NRA on a procedural vote, the more controversial aspect of the gun-control package has yet to come to the floor as an amendment — and will be scored as well.

After the cloture vote on Reid’s package, Sens. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) and Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) wrapped up the language of their Public Safety And Second Amendment Rights Protection Act.

Reid reiterated his promise that it would be the first amendment to his bill offered on the floor next week. If passed, the language would replace Schumer’s universal background checks in the final bill.

“It is important that the public and my colleagues in the Senate have ample opportunity to review and consider this important measure,” Toomey said. “Since a Senate vote is not expected until next week, everyone will have days to read and reflect on this legislation, and I welcome the their input.”

Toomey later released a letter from John C. Yoo, a former deputy assistant attorney general under George W. Bush and visiting scholar in constitutional law at the American Enterprise Institute, stating “the main provision of the Act poses no constitutional difficulties under the Second Amendment.”

“The Act’s expansion of federal background checks should survive the first step of the Heller analysis,” Yoo wrote. “…Indeed, the background check system would appear to be a vital mechanism to ensure that firearms sellers do not violate the terms of the national Gun Control Act. These restrictions have existed in federal law for 45 years and have not been constitutionally invalidated by the courts.”

The bill says it will be offered as an amendment by Manchin for himself, Toomey, Schumer and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.).

“I encourage all West Virginians, gun owners, NRA members and all Americans interested in fixing our culture of mass violence to read this bill,” Manchin said. “This bill simply prevents criminals and the dangerously mentally ill from purchasing guns while protecting our Second Amendment rights. This bipartisan, commonsense compromise closes the existing background check system’s loopholes by including all advertised commercial sales. It also protects gun sellers’ and gun owners’ rights.”

“Senator Toomey and I are confident that if people take the time to read the details of this important legislation, there will be nationwide support,” he added.

But even Republicans under fire for voting to move debate forward on Reid’s bill tried to tamp down criticism by saying they had no intention of voting for the Toomey-Manchin amendment.

Republicans voting yes were Sens. Toomey, Kirk, Kelly Ayotte (N.H.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), Roger Wicker (Miss.), Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), Jeff Flake (Ariz.), Susan Collins (Maine), John McCain (Ariz.), Richard Burr (N.C.), Bob Corker (Tenn.), Dean Heller (Nev.), John Hoeven (N.D.), and Saxby Chambliss (Ga.).

Touting his pre-cloture NRA “A” rating, Alexander said he’ll be a “no” vote on the compromise language.

“I’ll examine each amendment to determine whether it strengthens or infringes upon our Second Amendment rights,” Alexander said. “The Toomey-Manchin proposal to expand background checks in my opinion doesn’t meet that test and I will vote against it.”

Graham said he welcomes debate on the gun-control bill, “and you should too.”

“I have my own legislation, supported by the NRA, which I want to bring forward in the Senate. My legislation would make a real difference in keeping guns out of the wrong hands,” he said.

Sen. Mike Johanns (R-Neb.), who voted against the procedural motion, said on a conference call this morning that “days and if not a few weeks” of debate are ahead.

“I’m looking at some amendments myself. I must admit, I’m a little bit pessimistic that a bill that is shaped in this way can be changed sufficiently to get my vote,” Johanns said. “But having said that, we’ll see what transpires in the next couple of weeks.”

Johanns is pushing a bill with Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) to study the exposure of kids to violent video games before rushing into any legislation called a solution. “This notion that somehow this is going to solve anything by taking an action that violates the Constitution, that creates a national gun registry is just so misguided, and, quite honestly, it isn’t going to stop anything,” he said.

Some GOP senators had correctly prophesized that the filibuster organized by Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Mike Lee (R-Utah) and Ted Cruz (R-Texas), later joined by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and others, wouldn’t hold.

Connecticut Sens. Richard Blumenthal (D) and Chris Murphy (D) said in a joint statement that the “brave families from Newtown who were in Washington this week truly turned the tide on this debate.”

“Just four months ago, the conventional wisdom was that gun violence legislation would never go anywhere in the U.S. Congress. Today—thanks in large part to the courage and passion of the Newtown families—we have disproved this conventional wisdom,” the senators said, dropping “Newtown” a total of five times in a 195-word statement.

Democrats Mark Begich (Alaska) and Mark Pryor (Ark.) voted no on cloture for Reid’s bill.

“I’ve long believed we don’t need more laws restricting the Second Amendment rights of Americans, we need to better enforce those on the books,” Begich said. “…I voted today against the so-called cloture motion because I strongly disagree with many of the provisions of the anti-gun legislation currently on the Senate floor.”

White House press secretary Jay Carney called today’s vote “a first stage in an effort to get sensible, common-sense legislation that would reduce gun violence in America while protecting Americans’ Second Amendment rights signed into law.”

“There is still work to be done… But we certainly welcome this development.”

Over in the House, Democrats were crying foul at a grassroots effort gathering steam to encourage Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to invoke the Hastert Rule — the majority of the majority — to prevent the Senate gun bill from being brought to the floor of the lower chamber.

Reps. Paul Broun (R-Ga.) and Steve Stockman (R-Texas) began circulating the letter among colleagues last week. A Stockman spokesman told PJM this afternoon that they’re up to about 50 supporters.

The letter expresses “strong opposition to legislation requiring private sale background checks for firearms purchases.”

“The so-called ‘universal background check’ system would be a violation of Constitutionally-guaranteed rights on an unprecedented scale. The principle that no person can purchase or sell a firearm without first receiving government permission transforms the Second Amendment from a ‘right’ that should be protected by the government into a privilege granted by the government,” it continues.

“Under the precedents and traditions of the House, we would ask that no gun legislation be brought to the floor of the House unless it has the support of a majority of our caucus.”

Bridget Johnson is a veteran journalist whose news articles and opinion columns have run in dozens of news outlets across the globe. Bridget first came to Washington to be online editor at The Hill, where she wrote The World from The Hill column on foreign policy. Previously she was an opinion writer and editorial board member at the Rocky Mountain News and nation/world news columnist at the Los Angeles Daily News. She is an NPR contributor and has contributed to USA Today, The Wall Street Journal, National Review Online, Politico and more, and has myriad television and radio credits as a commentator. Bridget is Washington Editor for PJ Media.

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I've had a gutfull of these Vichy RINO's folding like a cheap suit...and in Toomey's case,he has apparently sold out to Mikey Bloomberg...somebody needs to primary his @$$ in 2014
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I read somewhere that being on a very plush yacht and booze helped with that bill. Apparently the mboat belonged to Manchin. I aqm wondering what he did before running for Congress and who paid for the booze.
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It's better that an occasional mental patient or ex-convict may be able to get a gun than for the decent people to be inconvenienced in arming themselves.
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"But even Republicans under fire for voting to move debate forward on Reid’s bill tried to tamp down criticism by saying they had no intention of voting for the Toomey-Manchin amendment."
Ya gotta be dumber than a red brick to not ask why the hell they'd let this go forward if they have no interest in voting for the amendment. More and more the republicans are fogging the line of who they are vs who the democrats are.

And while the world's most important deliberative body sit on their collective arses millions of Americas are asking - no - begging - for a decent paying job.

Way to go you Nimrods! The world's most important deliberative body shows itself for what it is - a pack of fools - and carrying water for the head fool all so he can save face and tell Americans he's done something to help control 'gun violence'. What is that saying - never let a good crisis go to waste? If the economy isn't a crisis I don't know what is - but that doesn't seem to bother these morons.

Rome is burning...
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The only conceivable reason for letting this idiocy go forward is to let it be shown who doesn't trust the American people.
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If Reid keeps his word [a highly doubtful thing] all this means is that the Toomey treason will be voted down overwhelmingly by the Democrats as not being sufficiently restrictive. Who will then pass whatever tyranny Reid wants on a party line vote. Or perhaps a bipartisan vote; Collins, McCain, et. al. still being what they are. The rest of the Republicans will claim that their losing no votes will prove that they really are loyal to the Constitution. Lying sacks of excrement. Their only hope of saving the 2nd Amendment was the filibuster, and they gave that up rather than fight.

There is no reason for a Republican party to exist anymore.

Subotai Bahadur
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If the bill just says I = name; underwent a background check so I could buy a gun, fine.

If it says I = name; underwent a background check to buy a Remington 30-06 riffle; serial# 123987654. My current address is....... We have a problem!!
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I think this quote says it properly:

"Thick As A Brick"

Really don't mind if you sit this one out.
My words but a whisper your deafness a SHOUT.
I may make you feel but I can't make you think.
Your sperm's in the gutter your love's in the sink.
So you ride yourselves over the fields and
you make all your animal deals and
your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.

And the sand-castle virtues are all swept away
in the tidal destruction the moral melee.
The elastic retreat rings the close of play
as the last wave uncovers the newfangled way.
But your new shoes are worn at the heels
and your suntan does rapidly peel
and your wise men don't know how it feels
to be thick as a brick.

I guess the Dims and Repubs should be careful what they ask for.......
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Wow man! That was deep!
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No, that was "Jethro Tull"
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Perfect analogy using one of my favorite oldies. I saw this performed live back in the day.
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I've had a gutfull of these Vichy RINO's folding like a cheap suit...and in Toomey's case,he has apparently sold out to Mikey Bloomberg...somebody needs to primary his @$$ in 2014
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Im not Toomey, and unlike Toomey, I will defend the 2nd Amendment.
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How do you propose to do that? The real problem lies within ourselves. Sooner or later like the sheep we are...we just shrug and comply. If we really feel so strongly about protecting our rights and if our will continues to be defied by our masters...beetching isn't going to solve one dang thing.
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