Al-Qaeda’s ‘Mad Scientist’ Killed in U.S. Air Strike?
A top al-Qaeda leader with a $5 million bounty on his head may have been among six people killed in a pre-dawn explosion in Pakistan’s tribal region on Monday. CBS News reports that a Pakistani intelligence official confirmed that Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Umar, also known as Abu Khabab al-Masri, was killed in the strike. A Fox News account states that al-Masri’s wife, who was injured in the blast, has confirmed his death. U.S. officials have not yet confirmed his death, but according to one interviewed by the Associated Press, “There is a real sense that this guy is gone.”
Local militants have recovered and buried the remains of six people killed in the strike, complicating efforts to officially identify the body believed to be al-Masri. He had been thought killed in a previous strike on January 2006 that targeted Ayman al-Zawahri.
While U.S. military forces have denied taking part in cross-border operations, the circumstances surrounding the blast are consistent with previous pinpoint strikes against high-value al-Qaeda and Taliban targets by CIA Predator drones armed with Hellfire missiles in South Waziristan, just across the border from Afghanistan. Abu Laith al-Libi, a senior al-Qaeda leader, was among those killed in a similar strike on January 29.
Al-Masri (not to be confused with the similarly named Abu Ayyub al-Masri, leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq) was a chemical and biological weapons expert and militant trainer for al-Qaeda, and a top associate of Osama bin Laden dating back prior to 9/11. He is credited with directly training hundreds of al-Qaeda terrorists in the use of explosives in Afghanistan since the 1990s, including foiled shoe-bomber Richard Reid. He also wrote training manuals for making chemical and biological weapons.
Al-Masri was living in a former religious school several miles from the border with Afghanistan at the time of the attack, and was said to be training suicide bombers and building vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices (VBIEDs) for cross-border attacks.
A Reuters account of the developing story tellingly notes that Pakistani officials are not told in advance of coalition operations inside Pakistan’s borders. The Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), the largest intelligence-gathering service in Pakistan, has been closely linked with the Taliban, and there is concern that the organization may be helping shield top al-Qaeda and Taliban militants. This concern was corroborated in a Pak Tribune article, in which a local militant commander confirmed that sources in the Pakistani government usually inform them of U.S. strikes upon militant positions in South Waziristan.
The strike occurred as Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani was in Washington, D.C., on a trip that saw him meet with President Bush and make a “strong commitment” to fighting terrorism within Pakistan. Gilani was made prime minister in March, after an election that saw the Pakistan Peoples Party gain 84 seats after former Pakistani prime minister and PPP leader Benazir Bhutto was assassinated by militants aligned with al-Qaeda.
Boo-who…..Welcome to hell, you POS
>may have been among six people killed in a >pre-dawn explosion in Pakistan’s tribal region on >Monday.
yeah, right
>“There is a real sense that this guy is gone.”
Absolutely fantastic prove!
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this war with false `islam threat` is a pathetic excuse to misguide American Public from real threat of tens of thousands of nukes aimed AT YOU from the Russian and Chinese territories
And of tons of biological and chemical poisons that were successfully tested on YOU in 2001.
Yes, islamist play their role in it as INSTRUMENT basically to cover up, to be a stalking horse of world communist alliance
Silly TV viewers BOUGHT IT AS A REAL THING. Such a shame..
I’m glad he’s dead and may he burn in hell
The Paki Gov’t has credibility issues so unless our boys or the UK troops can get in there and conform it, I’m skeptical.
kabud must have discovered the wonders of crack and then got on his Mommy’s computer.
allah akbar
ST333:
i like your level of argumentation:
anything else you can tell us?
Hope they did get the b*****d.
I also hope that we do not let the Paki government know what we are doing in these instances. Can’t trust them one iota!
The poisonous suspicion that makes OUR government the fared and mistrusted one shows a total lack of knowledge of Islam. This is the latest chapter in a very long war. Read Bin Laden and Zawahiri. Their justification for everything they do is classical Islam, the Islam of the Prophet and his Companions. Tell me that their interpretation of Islam is wrong. There are many “moderate Muslims”; there is no “moderate Islam.” To paraphrase Solzynitsyn: “Islamism is Islam practiced BY EXPERTS.” Denying the obvious only shows cowardice or obtuseness.
Well, kabud, it does sound a bit like drug induced schizophrenia.
What’s better than Habeas Corpus?
He be a corpus.
Buford Gooch:
>Well, kabud, it does sound a bit like drug induced >schizophrenia.
>Jul 29, 2008 – 4:36 pm
Please explain yourself.
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By the way American Congressmen an weapon experts think even in more alarming terms, also schizophrenia, right?
EMP effects from nuclear bursts are not new threats to our nation. What is different now is that some potential sources of EMP threats are difficult to deter-they can be terrorist groups that have no state identity, have only one or a few weapons, and are motivated to attack the U.S. without regard for their own safety. Potentially hostile states, such as North Korea and Iran, may also be developing the capability to pose an EMP threat to the United States, and may also be unpredictable and difficult to deter. China and Russia have considered limited nuclear attack options that, unlike their Cold War plans, employ EMP as the primary or sole means of attack. Indeed, in May 1999, during the NATO bombing of former Yugoslavia, high-ranking members of the Russian Duma, meeting with a U.S. congressional delegation to discuss the Balkans conflict, raised the specter of a Russian EMP attack that would paralyze the United States.
As recently as two weeks ago, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Asian and Pacific Security Affairs James J. Shinn testified before this Committee that China’s arms buildup is increasing the danger of a future conflict over Taiwan. Mr. Shinn disclosed that China’s military is working on exotic electromagnetic pulse (EMP) weapons that can devastate electronic systems using a burst of energy similar to that produced by a nuclear blast. “The consequence of EMP is that you destroy the communications network,” Mr. Shin said. “And we are, as you know, and as the Chinese also know, heavily dependent on sophisticated communications, satellite communications, in the conduct of our forces. And so, whether it’s from an EMP or it’s some kind of a coordinated [anti-satellite] effort, we could be in a very bad place if the Chinese enhanced their capability in this area,” he concluded.
http://xyu.livejournal.com/670186.html?mode=reply
El Khabob got the El Kaboom.
Joseph McNulty:
Read Bin Laden and Zawahiri. good that you mentioned. There are virtually no books published EVER in Muslim countries, except of Koran and its variations.
One can not conduct ANY serious operation against the West on the CAMEL BACK level. One needs extensive knowledge and experience. KGB has it : 90 years millions of its operatives were doing EXACTLY THAT.
here are expert’s testimonies:
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Today’s international terrorism was conceived at the Lubyanka, the headquarters of the KGB, in the aftermath of the1967 Six-Day War in the Middle East. I witnessed its birth in my other life, as a Communist general. Israel humiliated Egypt and Syria, whose bellicose governments were being run by Soviet razvedka (Russian for “foreign intelligence”) advisers, whereupon the Kremlin decided to arm Israel’s enemy neighbors, the Palestinians, and draw them into a terrorist war against Israel.
General Aleksandr Sakharovsky, who created Communist Romania’s intelligence structure and then rose to head up all of Soviet Russia’s foreign intelligence, often lectured me: “In today’s world, when nuclear arms have made military force obsolete, terrorism should become our main weapon.”
Between 1968 and 1978, when I broke with Communism, the security forces of Romania alone sent two cargo planes full of military goodies every week to Palestinian terrorists in Lebanon. Since the fall of Communism the East German Stasi archives have revealed that, in 1983 alone, its foreign intelligence service sent $1,877,600 worth of AK-47 ammunition to Lebanon. According to Vaclav Havel, Communist Czechoslovakia shipped 1,000 tons of the odorless explosive Semtex-H (which can’t be detected by sniffer dogs) to Islamic terrorists — enough for 150 years.
The terrorist war per se came into action at the end of 1968, when the KGB transformed airplane hijacking — that weapon of choice for September 11, 2001 — into an instrument of terror. In 1969 alone there were 82 hijackings of planes worldwide, carried out by the KGB-financed PLO. In 1971, when I was visiting Sakharovsky at his Lubyanka office, he called my attention to a sea of red flags pinned onto a world map hanging on the wall. Each flag represented a captured plane. “Airplane hijacking is my own invention,” he claimed.
The political “success” occasioned by hijacking Israeli airplanes prompted the KGB’s 13th Department, known in our intelligence jargon as the “Department for Wet Affairs” (wet being a euphemism for bloody), to expand into organizing “public executions” of Jews in airports, train stations, and other public places. In 1969 Dr. George Habash, a KGB puppet, explained: “Killing one Jew far away from the field of battle is more effective than killing a hundred Jews on the field of battle, because it attracts more attention.”
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjUzMGU4NTMyOTdkOTdmNTA1MWJlYjYyZDliODZkOGM=
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Ayman al-Zawahiri, the reputed Number 2 chief in al-Qaeda and the man second only to Osama bin Laden on the FBI’s “Most Wanted Terrorists” list, was trained by the Russian FSB (formerly known as the KGB). That’s the story told by ex-FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko, who fled Russia in 2000. According to Litvinenko, as reported in the Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita, on July 17, “Ayman al-Zawahiri trained at a Federal Security Service (FSB, former KGB) base in Dagestan in 1998.” “He was then transferred to Afghanistan,” the defector says, “where he became Osama bin Laden’s deputy.”
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0JZS/is_16_21/ai_n25113603
THERE ARE THOUSAND SOURCES ON THAT.
Kabud,
For the moment, we’re addressing recognizable, tangible threats. Once we’ve sent them to Hades, we’ll start on your favorite threats, OK?
I’m kind of surprised you haven’t linked to http://www.prisonplanet.com yet. Alex Jones sounds like your kinda guy.
I’m wondering if faraday cages will deter an EMP? I’m going to do some research on this and see if it’s possible. I realize that an EMP wave will destroy electronics. This is what star wars was all about during the Reagan years.
Bod:
u demonstrate a naivety that leads to disaster
it is not GUY, KIND YOURS or MINE
it is a grave threat
read books, learn, think
Jabba the Tutt:
another one was entertained to brain death((
Jude:
if even our officials cry wolf-
it means something
in the last 20 years all they could do is praising each other for false winning of the cold war
and now we have to deal with it and enemy is stronger then ever:
kremlin, beijing and OPEC have a worrking union
Jude:
Yes, a Faraday cage will block an EMP pulse. It’s not magic, it’s just a very powerful electromagnetic wave. Military electronics are designed to withstand the effect (since it’s one of the signature effects of a nuclear detonation). There’s also nothing particularly new or exotic about the idea.
Please stop bothering us with exotic-sounding Arabic words.
Most of the Arabic names used by would-be warriors are simply descriptive, and often refer to a person’s origin. Al-Masri means “the Egyptian”, al-Libi means “the Libyan”, etc.
Oh, and let’s stop pussyfooting about the name of Iran’s “Quds Brigades” (an elite unit within Iran’s Revolutionary Brigades, i.e. Waffen-SS). Al-Quds is the Arabic name of Jerusalem (also used as a loanword in Farsi).
The idea, of course, is that these brigades will achieve the “liberation” of Jerusalem that the Arabs have failed to achieve. This in turn would restore Shiite Iran to its supposed rightful place as the leader of global Islam under the aegis of the ayat-allahs (commonly spelt ayatollah).
Today’s terrorist is tomorrow’s corpse.
El Khabob got skewered.
Usually when these guys get whacked they claim it was a wedding party. We should be hearing this pretty soon.
Kabud:
I don’t claim to know you Kabud therefore I wonder what your message is. There seems to be a warning, is that your intent Kabud? Your insight seems on target to me, are you for or against the security of the USA? The approach you take in writing suggests to me that you search for a means of destruction. What exactly is your position on this?
Larry Anderson:
explain yourself.
well, i know i am wasting my time on you, but anyway, to be fair:
If you did not get my message- may be you have a reading comprehension issues?
islamists are instrumental in a war against USA that is conducted from kremlin and beijing under the disguise of muslim terrorists,
just do yourself a favor and read articles by PACEPA and NYQUIST
if it can help the poor state of you comprehension of course
your attitude will ruin this land of Free
because you dont want to face a real danger
Hey, kabud:
Somebody must have read this thread, and posted a personal message to you here:
http://tinyurl.com/6dzpgc
Korla Pundit:
i would advice to someone and all to read:
nyquist, pacepa, joseph douglas, anatoliy golitsyn, lunev, petr cibulka
and very important: read us Senate and Congress hearing on security matters
and USE YOUR BRAINS
if someone needs to tell me something: he can click on my name here and find out how
i would not bother going to any idiotic links otherwise
ps
what does KORLA mean?
what ethnicity?
Agree with Kabud that the Chicoms and KGB gangsters are still against us and still threats. But so are the mohammedians.
mohammedians.
were manipulated and NOT ALL OF EM
kgb trained thousands from the mid 60s or earlier
rest of them are very poor and uneducated:
we must REACH to THE PEOPLE there and support THE BEST support aspirations of freedom
this `conflict of civilization` is a KGB DECEPTION
Muslims are people of Faith but very poor and in the dark
well, just peole, humans
as u and i
gangster are our common enemy
DEATH TO COMMUNISTS- must be our goal
This is another example of how the Bush adm. is becoming a quasi-fascist state and destroying the Constitution. This man was not given a fair trial. How can this be allowed under our Constitution?
I fear for my life.
Fred:
Maybe it was a wedding party. Death was the suitor.
Kabud’s argument that communists are the root cause of terrorism is wrong because it omits the fact that terrorists commit suicide. All the KGB scheming and munitions supplying in the world won’t convince a person to wear a bomb and blow themselves up. Only an entire world-view, a profoundly and completely corrupt philosophy like Islam can imbue hatred of life to that degree.
Nations offering financial or safe harbor to terrorists like Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan should simply be nuked because innocents like the USA have the moral obligation to defend themselves out of our allegiance to the natural requirements of living in this world – freedom from the initiation of force. Islamic leaders and their minions openly preach, want, and celebrate death (e.g. dancing in the streets on 9/11). Let’s simply give them what they want and move on with living!
Pat:
it was a genius discovery made by KGB to deploy kamikaze on the plains
After 1993 attempt to blow up WTC i remember thinking about it and discussing it with friends -engineers from former ussr
well, we laughed at stupidity of those who planed to do it from the garage, we all studied elements of construction engineering in universities and knew how silly was it planned
But then i remember we figured that it could be done from the air.
But we missed one thing: kamikaze element.
As normal westerners we only figured that parachuting from such a plane would be impossible
The KGB expertize ONLY could have created 9-11:
if you think about it , the complexity of it is impressive:
like u say- kamikaze.
So imagine that u have to recruit , train and make sure that they NEVER defect and will be able to finish the job of such a complicated nature as driving planes into buildings
It is not a matter of convincing:
it is a matter of very complex BRAINWASHING. And it is not an easy task.
because you cant have idiots-operatives.
You need TOP people and TOP people are not willing to die.
There is NOTHING wrong with Islam.
it is just a religion.
people who sold you the idea of clash of civilizations DESIGNED it in kremlin in 1950s
It is documented in many sources: PACEPA articles are a good read.
The invested in antisemitism as a method to make a billion enemies in ME who will hate the WEST
Trust me, we deal here with much more sophistication then we are used by watching idiot-box commonly known as TV
Kabud wrote, “There is NOTHING wrong with Islam. it is just a religion.”
This is another of numerous arbitrary assertions among Kabud’s comments.
And because the arbitrary has no claim to truth, falsehood, right or “wrong,” it must simply be dismissed without further consideration – like most of the commentators above have already properly been doing with Kabud’s posts.
There are only two means of acquiring knowledge: reason and mysticism.
Reason is the process of thinking – of purposefully integrating the material provided by the senses in the FULL context using logic to check our premises, discard contradictions, and arrive at truth and certainty. In periods dominated by reason, such as ancient Greece, the Renaissance and Enlightenment, freedom and happiness on earth flourished. For the past 200 years, western culture has been gradually abandoning reason and allowing more mysticism – to our peril.
Mysticism is belief without proof. As such, mysticism leads only to arbitrary knowledge which is an unreliable guide to action. Mysticism says, “don’t think, BELIEVE.” Some content of the mystic’s mind may occasionally correspond to reality, but even when it does, it’s an accident – not the result of a deliberate, full commitment to grasping reality – and therefore not worthy of further consideration by anyone who loves life and understands the requirements of our nature as rational individuals. This is one reason why permitting Ahmadinejad to speak at Columbia was wrong – there is nothing to learn from mystics, and in his case, continual appeasement of a thug who shouts “death to America” (or Israel) leads to suicide.
Communism and Islam are the two most mystical, and thereby life-threatening, movements ever. Although they disagree on whether there is life after death, both agree that the mind is incompetent and must be subordinated to the whims of a handful of parasitic brutes – whether kommisars or ayatollahs. “Don’t think, believe – and OBEY.”
Communism withered because it ran out of moral fuel – even its leaders couldn’t continue believing in the promise of utopia after another 5-year plan while their neighbors in the West produced ever more abundant and wonderful new products and services.
But Islam is more consistently mystical; it will therefore continue spreading its death-worship until the west achieves a resurgence of reason – where governments and religions are again subordinated to the rule of law by the principles of individual rights – including completely separating the church from the state.
And just as the arbitrary beliefs of mystics have no place in the rule of law, they have no place in another one of the supreme products of reason – the internet. It is good that we name arbitrary assertions as such, dismiss them and their advocates out of hand, as many have done here with Kabud, and continue to fight for truth that is fully anchored to ALL of the evidence of our senses.
Reason is the only means to flourishing. Mysticism, like Islam, is the means to primeval barbarism and death. As the father of logic, Aristotle, said: “Either-or.” Let each of us continue choosing reason as is so often the case at this website.
there are virtually NO BOOKS published in Muslim World
if u seriously think about ~them~ as a serious adversary- it is laughable
Read Pacepa, Nyquist, Douglas, Lunev, Golitsyn.
It will take some time to understand strategy issues but believe me it is worth it
There is nothing like it seems in the strategic matters
The idea to make peole like u think that danger is coming from Islam and make some muslims think that West is about to destroy them-
is a BRILLIANT strategic solution to gain power
Don’t u think?
And WHERE ARE STRATEGIC WMD ?
Answer: in Russia and China
WHY THEY KEEP IT WHEN NOBODY THREATENS THEM?
Ever asked yourself? it is time to do it NOW.
any questions?