Akin Fallout Turns GOP Economic Messaging on Its Head
“Paul Ryan and Todd Akin, like two peas in a pod, have endorsed the same legislation,” Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) said on CNN. “…I guess a woman has to have black eyes and black and blue marks in order to actually claim that she was forcibly raped.”
“Here’s why I`m not that shocked that he’s not dropping out. He has stood shoulder to shoulder with mainstream Republicans and I would say that includes Paul Ryan,” Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) said yesterday on MSNBC. “In other words, the new mainstream is really extreme.
They were partners when it came to the personhood amendment. They were partners when it came to redefining rape, outlawing contraception, and so why — he feels ‘why should I get out, I’m being picked on but essentially I’ve just been saying what a lot of Republicans are thinking.’ That’s true.”
Democrats quickly drew vague ideological parallels between Akin and Ryan as their evidence of a greater “war on women” culture in the GOP. But they are just as eager to use the scandal to take stabs at Romney, once pro-choice but now identifying as pro-life, with exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother.
Dr. John C. Willke, president of the Life Issues Institute, wrote a 1999 article on women being unlikely to get pregnant from “forcible rape,” and defended that theory in interviews this week. “She’s, shall we say, she’s uptight,” Willke told the New York Times. “She is frightened, tight, and so on. And sperm, if deposited in her vagina, are less likely to be able to fertilize. The tubes are spastic.”
Willke, a former president of the National Right to Life Committee, was named “an important surrogate” of the Romney campaign in 2007 “for Governor Romney’s pro-life and pro-family agenda.”
An Organizing for America fundraising email, with Fluke’s name in the subject line, went out to supporters Wednesday evening saying Romney supporters and advisers “stood silently by” while the GOP platform “in lockstep with Akin” was adopted.
“Without knowing me or my story, Rush Limbaugh called me a ‘slut’ and a ‘prostitute’ on his radio show,” Fluke wrote in the campaign pitch. “Many Americans stepped forward to tell me they agreed with me, and supported my right to speak out without being verbally attacked. President Obama stood with us. Mitt Romney, on the other hand? He didn’t even condemn the remark, instead saying only: ‘It’s not the language I would have used.’”
The email also cited the original text of H.R. 3 and blamed Ryan for co-sponsoring with Akin.
“Akin’s comments shouldn’t be surprising. But this isn’t about him — just like it was never about me,” wrote Fluke.
Meanwhile, the messaging of the man behind the campaign temblor became more muddled with each media appearance he did today.
“Let me say that legitimate does not — should not be in the context of rape at all,” he said on NBC’s Today show.
When asked by George Stephanopoulos on Good Morning America whether he’d get out of the race before a Sept. 25 deadline that would need a court order, Akin said, “I’m never going to say everything that can possibly happen. I don’t know the future.”
When pressed if that meant he was still open to getting out, Akin said, “Well, I have made the decision to stay in.”
“The word legitimate doesn’t ever have a good reason to be standing next to rape,” the congressman added. “There is no rape that is legitimate.”
Yes, and that was by design. Everyone from Charles Jaco to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz to Wolf Blitzer wants to talk about anything other than the economy. They found an exploitable sound bite and ran with it. And the lazy American electorate, failing to even read the context immediately surrounding the words “legitimate rape”, suddenly thinks they’re experts on Missouri politics and that Todd Akin is a moron who needs to drop out.
In reality, Missourians are still left with an easy choice: the woman who proposed paying women for their aborted fetuses, or a conservative who misspoke once. The woman who has been one of Obama’s faithful accomplices in Missouri, or a man who has fought every step of the way against Obama’s agenda during his tenure in the House.
If all you know about Akin is that he is pro-life and said “legitimate rape”, then please refrain from pontificating as if you’re an expert. Because you’re not.
Todd Akin knows about as much about conception as Al Gore knows about ‘global warming’. Both crack pots.
The Akin implosion is just one, there are more to come and they are all linked together. I have a feeling “you people” are going to rue the day that you ever nominated Romney.
What does abortion politics have to do with Romney’s tax returns you might ask? It’s starting to trickle out why he doesn’t want them released and it isn’t because of how much or how little he paid.
Steve Baldwin, former Republican Whip of the California State Assembly, said recent journalism about the actual date of Romney’s departure from Bain Capital “has almost certainly revealed the real reason Romney refuses to release any more than two years of personal IRS data: Bain’s craven investment in Stericycle corporation — a vendor to Planned Parenthood — lined Romney’s pockets with profits from the incineration of aborted human fetuses. Mitt, it’s time to disclose your tax returns and everything else about Stericycle.” Now being a right to life candidate you’d think that incinerating aborted fetuses would be against everything Romney stood for…..or perhaps, profits mean more.
I’m sure Planned Parenthood probably bought office supplies from Office Depot. Heck, they might have even had a few catered lunches from Chik-fil-A. You could play this ‘connection’ game as far as you like. This whole thing is a side-show distraction from the main event. It IS about the economy, stupid.
Have fun explaining that to the pro-life Christian evangelical voters who already have a problem with the fact that Romney belongs to a church that believes that Joseph Smith can save you better than Jesus Christ. The economy is important, I agree, but it would be a big mistake to discount these other important issues.
Kerry Gauthier had an implosion. He overdosed on pills after the news broke that he had a craigslist-coordinated homosexual rendezvous with a 17 year old in a public restroom.
Anthony Wiener had an implosion. He piled on lie after lie before it finally blew up in his face.
Todd Akin said two words in an interview with Charles Jaco, a foul-mouthed local journalist who has a habit of assaulting people he hates (conservatives), and a few liberals who had already pledged their support to McCaskill got their dander up before Romney, Karl Rove, and the NRSC threw Akin under the bus…for making an assertion that can neither be proven nor disproven.
FYI, asserting that something is either true or false in the absence of any evidence either way is called a logical fallacy: argumentum e silentio. Stop substituting popular suppositions for factual proof, everyone.
Todd Akin voted against TARP twice. That was a vote against the collective wisdom of McCain (the Presidential nominee, Krauthammer (intellect of the Republican Ruling Class), George Bush, Karl Rove, etc. etc. Todd Akins actual voting record is better and more conservative than Paul Ryan’s. Ryan is a good man who voted for TARP, No Child Left Behind, Bush’s Medicare Entitlement Expansion, the GM Bailout and more. Akin voted against these. I will forgive Akin one statement said in support of the idea that killing innocent babies is bad. If Akin has the strength of character to vote against McCain and Bush and Boehner all to support the idea of limited government, then he is far better than 90% of the politicians in Washington. And, by the way, he won his primary. And the calls for him to step aside are disgusting. All these coming from the people who tell us we must hold our nose and vote for the liberal Romney, to save the country from state mandated health insurance and big government, both of which he administered. What obnoxious hypocrisy.
I will send Akin a big a big check today. All I needed was the National Republican Senatorial Committee coming out against him to know he has what is needed.
I suggest everyone read Larry Elder’s “Todd Akin Was Never Accused of Rape — Unlike Bill Clinton”
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/elder082312.php3
As he says at the end of the article, “Game on.”
Anyone with the integrity and guts to stick to his convictions and stand against the Dems, media, and RINO’s is a hero in my book! I wish we had 100 more like Akin in Congress and 60 more like him in the Senate! His voting record not only on pro-life issues, but also the economy speaks for itself. Club for Growth rates Akin 92% on his debt reduction votes. So his determination to stick by his pro-life statements simply validates his voting record for the past several years. It’s almost as if the RINO’s want him out more than the liberals. Politicians like ‘cry-baby’ Boehner, who threatened to redistrict Jim Jordan last year for opposing him on the debt ceiling issue-calling Tea Partiers “knuckle-draggers” — demonizing Bachmann for inquiring about Muslim Brotherhood connections to the White House, are the real dangers to not only the Republican Party, but the entire country!
NJ Mike, Bugg, Kent– What a blessing to find you guys! I am sickened at Levin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Red State and all those so-called conservatives throwing Akin under the bus. Except for Huckabee, I thought I was the only one in support of Akin. I am a substitute teacher/home crafter, so my summertime income is minimal, but I sent Akin a $10 donation and a note of encouragement. Like I said, we need many more like him –those with the integrity to put morality and conservatism above Party. I wish Akin was my Representative instead of Jim Renacci, a clone of John Boehner!
Ellie Nape
Ohio District 16
Oh, almost forgot my rally cry:
“The sure cure for the ‘RINO’ virus –2014 primaries!
Ellie
This is chess not checkers, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gafALL-R1nI
One doesn’t need to be an expert on Missouri politics to know that Akin is a moron who needs to drop out and be replaced by someone with a brain and political sense. The guy is an embarrassment and a distraction. No wonder the only people who want him to stay in are Dems and their compliant media.
Yes, he needs to quit, right? Like Jack Ryan was pressured to quit his Illinois Senate race in 2004 when some personal information came out that was embarrassing. The Republican establishment pressured him, like Akins is being pressured now. So Ryan was replaced on the ballot by Alan Keyes, a good man. I can’t remember. How did that brilliant quit and fold turn out for the Republican establishment?
He’s down 10 points in the latest poll today.
You’re right. So what?
I came in to work 30 minutes late today. I just ate lunch a little while ago. Cars are driving by my office as we speak.
Got any other meaningful news flashes for us, Captain Obvious?
Romney has been trailing Obama since they started polling this campaign season. Does that mean that Romney should drop out too?
Romney has been trailing Obama since they started polling this campaign season. Does that mean that Romney should drop out too?
Newsflash: polling the general public does not yield meaningful statistics. Polling likely voters and gauging enthusiasm does.
Here is a news flash for you, Jaycen. Your boy is tanking (just like I told you he would) and will soon cost us a Senate seat we could have had if he had just campaigned on his principles instead of trying to teach magic biology to the yet unwashed. Stupid can’t be fixed just by being the one who shouts the loudest with and with the greatest volume of righteous indignation. It is time for you to disappear from this site and for your stupid mentor to drop out of the race, I say. ABO2012
People are reacting as if Akin sucked off a 17 year old in a public bathroom…
Oh, wait, that was Kerry Gauthier, a Democrat. But he’s staying in his race, too, and the MSM hasn’t launched a coordinated assault against him.
Translation: “One doesn’t need to know anything about Todd Akin to know everything about Todd Akin.”
Seriously, yours is the same bandwagon mentality that leads conservatives hail Chris Christie as the next Reagan while perpetuating the myth that Todd Akin is a moron. Newsflash: Akin is one of the only principled conservatives in politics today, and Chris Christie isn’t even remotely conservative. Support for balanced budgets alone does not a conservative make. Prime example: Bill Clinton.
Stop taking the media’s word for it. Stop taking Karl Rove’s word for it. Stop reacting to media coverage as if it’s representative of real world opinions. It’s that sort of nonsense that got us Romney – chasing the winner via chasing public opinion. I’ll vote for him, but he is the weakest candidate we could have put forth next to Huntsman. In order to force Romney to spearhead a conservative shift in government policy, we’re going to have to elect solid conservatives like Todd Akin to write the bills that he passes.
by Bridget Johnson
Republicans face unexpected onslaught on social issues heading into a convention where jobs and debt were supposed to headline.
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Because people who are supposed to be on the political Right won’t stop talking about it.
Exactly. Let’s take a local (state) issue, get the lamestream Democrat media to drive the story, and have every so-called Republican talking head pick the story up and run with it. Then Republicans do what they do best; shake in their boots afraid that if they don’t come out with the nails in their hands to crucify Todd Akin with, the media will turn on them. You know, that whole guilt by three degrees of separation thingie.
So while John Conyer’s says “Read the bill? Why should I read the bill?” and Nancy Pelosi says “We have to pass the bill so you can know what is in it.” no one on their side of the aisle clammors for them to resign or end their campaigns.
You see, I have decided that most people in my party (the GOP) are stupid. We are so afraid of what the press, that we aleady know is in the tank for the Democrats, will do to us that we continue to play by the Democrat rule book under the chapter: Rules For Republicans Only.
When this story broke, which was good for a couple of days at most, it was driven by the Obamamedia. It would have died, but noooooo, conservative talking heads had to get involved. Then Romney has to make a statement about it, my own Senator, John Cornyn, who has his own crosses to bear, starts making demands Akin drop out, and before you know it, the Democrats have the full blown faux scandal they wanted all with the help of stupid Republicans who, after 60 years, have still not learned how to deal with the press.
Just call us the Guppy Party; we eat our own with regularity.
I don’t think I’m the only one who finds Johnson’s PJM posts irritating. Does sh secretly work for the AP?
You are right, Studious Citizen. Ignore the flak. People without a moral compass (and a libertarian or leftist agenda) will say the darndest things in pursuit of their utopian nightmare.
“Anything, oh please, oh please, anything,” they cry, “but talk about the disaster for America that has been Barak Obama.”
I take offense to folks saying that anyone with a libertarian outlook has issues with their moral compass.
As a former naval officer, I think that my morals need no qualification by/from anyone. Sorry, but I don’t buy into the whole “Libertarian bad” mantra coming from both sides. Lest anyone forget, the views of the founding fathers are more libertarian than they are anything else.
Its the MSM that is steering the conversation at the moment. Romney/Ryan need to drive around this diversion and get on message. Ignore the dems & the MSM/Obamabots that want to talk about anything but Zero’s record.
Indeed. They should simply state they are not interested in redefining what rape is and while pro-life have no intention to outlaw abortion.
Leave it at that and refuse to comment further on the subject. Then each time a reporter asks the question turn it around and attack Obama and the media for not wanting to discuss the serious problems our country faces, especially the economy. They need to call out the media for what they are doing, helping Obama distract America from his record.
then bring up the proven inveterate liar, disbarred lawyer, notorious adulterer, serial sex-addict, three-time accused rapist, and brazen desecrator of the Oval Office, the one and only Democratic Party idol and elder statesman himself, William Jefferson Clinton Irrumator,
Obama should ask Soros to send Akin $10 million as a continuing thank you for helping to save Obama’s reelection chances.
Stop hyperventilating. Nobody in Missouri who wants Obama ousted is going to let Todd Akin’s comments determine whether they show up to vote against Obama.
Please, everyone – stop pretending to know exactly how the Missouri electorate thinks and behaves. This is just predictable Democrat BS.
Then explain why Herr Obama seems to be so very happy these last 2 days. And what about those reports about Obama dancing a jig and bowing to Meca and giving thanks to Allah?
FeralCat, why not turn your massive wit to attacks on Obama? Or do you live in Missouri?
This isn’t just about one state. The Democrats have turned this into a national issue, it effects every race.
Also consider what happens when Akin loses what should have been an easy race, the Republicans will have a harder time getting to 51 votes in the Senate.
What is more important, repealing Obamacare or defending some guy that doesn’t know how the female reproductive system works?
Lets concentrate on the other 32 Senate races and quit fretting over something we have no control over. Akin is the candidate – it is what it is. Only Akin can change that and it looks like he isn’t budging.
Do YOU know how the female reproductive system works? If you can’t explain it to me accurately, then I think you shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
I mean, if your criteria for Akin running for the Senate is knowledge of the female reporductive system, then surely voting for a Senator should have the same criteria, shouldn’t it, genius?
In your rush to call someone stupid you don’t even know, do you understand just how stupid you sound?
woodun, why do you think it would be an easy race in Missouri? Do you not realize it was the voters of Missouri that put Criminal Claire McCaskill in office in the first place?
Anyone who is demanding Akin drop out due to one stupid statement (but I bet Akin knows how many states are in this Union) is only adding fuel to the fire the Democrats, and their complicit media, built.
Congratulations, you just earned your wings with the DNC.
If the majority of American voters are stupid enough to vote for Obama after his first disastrous term then we’re finished and it’s not Akin who is to blame.
Is it Akins fault that Romney is incapable of cutting the legs off of the Obama political, media machine like the last spineless fall guy McCain before him ?
The wimp Romney is too fearful to play hardball with good topics like Holders stonewall on Fast and Furious that goes all the way to the White House.
Watching the weather reports I’m beginning to think that the spineless RINO party did Alkin a favor by telling him to stay home and miss the mess likely heading to Tampa to welcome them.
‘wimp Romney’ well said…a perfect leader for weeping Boner’s congress of badminton playing eunuchs
Hi Todd.
Hi, Communist Sympathizer.
I think FeralCat is in the lap of Ann Coulter, who is dating Chris Christie, who also has FeralCat’s view of the Muslim World. FeralCat, protecting the world from unborn babies.
Hats off to Bridget Johnson for a fine, dispassionate summing up of a major mess.
Those of us happier fighting in the trenches won’t preserve a sense of humor here. Oh no. The Stupid Party is now doing what it does best, sitting in a circle, fulminating and firing away, getting nowhere, deep in a funk, blustering about ‘fairness’, doing nothing. Meanwhile the skies are black with dive bombers. Harumph…harumph…harumph…time for my nap, nurse.
You might expect that those of us who are proud not to be Republicans are now exalting over this. You’ll have to look long and hard. Many of us are pragmatists reconciled to vote to get the distinctly mediocre Romney in the WH to avoid the greater evil. Yet there you R’s go again, losing the plot, slapping your foreheads and being generally hopeless in the face of the greatest no-brainer in recent memory:
Akin is now toxic all day in every way. The man’s a maroon with a lousy comb-over and a boatload of flaws and pathologies. Yet he keeps on digging and his defenders keep on parsing away, unable to detect the rancid air. Very simply, Akin should have been axed on day one, the damage fully controlled by day two.
Yet instead, here’s another cognitive dissonance alert: You party grandees believe you’re fit to govern? You can’t even be trusted to handle the proverbial pee in a bucket, let alone Barbara Boxer’s dismally dim chirruping.
Don’t expect any thanks for having put us in this position.
Dispassionate? No. Once clue is she calls it a “scandal”. If you are playing THEIR game you’d use that word. If you got caught in the passions of the media frenzied mob you’d use that word.
The winner plays the game his own way, not how a second rate hectoring opponent yells he should be playing it.
With the exception of people like Andrew Klavan, most of the PJ media bloggers are solidly Nationalist Progressives, i.e. establishment Republicans.
You aren’t going to talk sense here, especially not with the commenters. They’re going to help the Democrat Progressives sound the gong as loudly as possible. Ultimately, they don’t really care whether it’s Obama or Romney who wins. Either way, Progressivism wins, and that’s really what it’s all about.
Oh sure, a lot of them are so mired in their groupthink they can’t stand the idea of “the other team winning”, but that’s as deep as they’re capable of thinking. There’s no “there” there.
Amen Jaycen, let’s consider another diplomatic path that might have been taken. The first day Mitt says, “The people of Missouri have chosen Todd Akin as their nominee after a grueling, three-way primary. There has been a misunderstanding regarding his position on abortion. He should clarify his position and we will move on to win.” Would we be here? If the Republican Party were a well managed business, Mitt would have lined up behind the Tea Party three years ago and said, “Now, what do we need to go to 2012 with a winner!” They certainly were happy with the 2010 gains, eh? So…let’s see. Their votes are good until the national election when we must all become moderate progressives and then they are ‘morons’? Hindsight is 20/20 I know, but don’t we appreciate foresight in good politicians? In fact, I expect a presidential nominee to understand and honor the system that the forefathers passed to us. The people of Missouri chose Todd Akin in a primary process that he won, he is their candidate not Mitt’s or the GOP establishments.
Thank you! God, thank you.
As a Tea Partier, I can tell you he’s my favorite. You’re correct that Mitt could have lined up with the Tea Party, but like the rest of the establishment he’s trying to cling to what’s left of the the rotten core of the Republican apple.
I think Mitt has studiously avoided talking about the Tea Party. I think he’s praying for our support, but dreads being painted as one of us.
Akin, on the other hand, has been at the forefront of several Tea Party initiatives. Remember the picture of Pelosi with the gavel in her hand? The Tea Party event had Bachman and Akin driving it.
The establishment Prog Republicans just do not get it. Your wishy-washy, gutless, leadership failure is being replaced by people who will speak their mind. I’ll tell another parent, “Don’t like it, don’t participate!” at school events. That doesn’t bother me a bit. Capitulating to whiners is what got us to this point.
Flush the gutless whiners out of the Party. They’ll line up behind us when they see us leading, just like they do on the highway. Ever notice how close a lot of drivers ride the ass the folks in front of them? It’s not because they’re in a hurry (especially when you see it happening in the slow lane), it’s because they’re the sheep Progressives want to control.
We could try to kick them out of their complacency, to encourage them to speak their minds and stand up for our principles, but that would be just a different form of Progressivism. If you want to be sheep, be sheep.
I’m a sheep dog. I’ll run along side you and give you guidance if you want it, but I’m really more concerned about protecting the flock from the wolves. Luckily, I’ve still got just enough of the wolf left in me that I’ll bite their ass if they try anything.
To me, that’s a huge difference from being the shepherd, who wants to pen up the sheep and keep the sheep dog on a leash. Those are the Progressives.
No, sheep dogs are happy to lie down in the grass and snooze next to the sheep as they graze. It’s warm in the sun, and we can take or leave the safety of the house. We’re independent survivors.
There’s a sense of unreality here, of ships without lights passing in the night. It really doesn’t matter any more who Akin is or what he could have or should have done. This is all about damage control now, the effects of being defined by the MSM and the miserable failure by the GOP to get a grip.
Time for the good people of MO stick their noses over the parapet and savor the stench their former hero has cast over all the land. If the price of maybe winning MO with Akin is losing OH and FL, well, the next step should be kind of obvious. Some things just don’t work out. In GOP/RNC world, lots of things.
I’m sorry, but I just can’t follow your lack-of-logic.
Exactly how does my vote in my sovereign state of Missouri count as a vote in Florida or Ohio?
How am I responsible for how voters in other states think or vote?
Please explain that to me. I’m dying to know.
By the by, please stop telling me where to stick my nose. You probably wouldn’t want to hear where I’d suggest you stick yours.
They could end this in a heartbeat. Just say, “Yes, a candidate said something stupid that no one agrees with. That happens pretty much every day somewhere. We are here to talk about the economy and the future of our great nation.”
Just refuse to discuss Akin anymore. We are not stupid people, we know that the Democrats are busy attempting to direct the conversation everywhere but where it counts. All of their misdirection still cannot hide the fact that they are running us into a permanent ditch. They can’t convince people that we are all just fine when we can see the price of groceries and gas and utilities skyrocketing and our neighborhoods are pocked with foreclosed upon and abandoned homes.
Social issues take a decidedly back seat when the economy skids. We need for Romney/Ryan to play their own game, not the Democrats’ game.
Yes, Progressive trolls like FeralCat are doing all they can in their Soros inspired posts to keep the focus on Akin. I say fine. Someone please post Akins confessional voting record. Please post his ACU rating. Did he vote for TARP? Or the GM bailout? Or increasing the debt limit? No, he voted against these things that FeralCat supports. Now, how many politicians have the strength to vote against the big government programs that FeralCat wants? Not many. PPaul Ryan voted for all this stuff, but I will vote for him anyway. Now, can FeralCat muster some sanity and stop his self flagellation, or does he enjoy self abuse too much?
the self-abuse, Kent, and he has lots of company to do it with, too.
Yes, I agree. If so called republicans would quit carrying the communist democrat water ,Borkings like this one would grind to a halt. Unfortunately a good part of the repub party are really liberals themselves and use any chance to attack a real Conservative.
The big question is can Romney and Ryan navigate the “social issues” minefield Akin’s brain fart has dropped them into without having their legs blown off.
Good luck gentlemen, you will need it…
Hi, Random Progressive Socialist.
Your mentality suggests Todd Akin is responsible for the campaign messaging of Mitt Romney. Todd Akin is responsible for how Romney comes across to his constituents. Todd Akin is responsible for any backlash Romney receives for any reason.
Here in the world of Constitutional Conservatives, we believe people are responsible for their own words and their own behaviors.
That’s why we use phrases like “Republican In Name Only”, because Republicans like you don’t hold to the principle of personal responsibility. In your mind, responsibility is always owned by someone else, or it’s shared amongst many.
You’re welcome to call yourself a Republican, but I’m also welcome to call you out on a divergent world view that better fits with the Progressive Socialist Democrat philosohpy.
Well, I am right now, until people like deign to have people like me forced into camps, or forced into silence, as has so often been historically the case. Good luck building your utopia.
He is NOW.
Bring Popcorn…
Is Akin a crypto-Democrat? I swear: how can people such as him and Yoder do stuff like this in an election year. They have to be 5th columnists. Or is that 5th avenue? 5th estate? *breaks down and is hauled away in a straightjacket*
Simply stop going into the minefield. Since Roe, abortion has been a football game that goes on for 40 years without either side advancing the ball even a yard. We should cut all funding and mock the idea the feds are going to pay for the Sandra Flukes of America to get their CVS shopping sprees covered. But ENOUGH. Abortion is evil, but we’re not banning it, nor morning after pills. Same with gay marriage and “family values”. When this election is about $16 trillion in debt and the feds borrowing 40 cents of every dollar, Obama loses.If you want to be a yahoo like Akin worrying about your neighbor’s sex habits, Obama wins.Supposed conservatives have no more place in our homes and bedrooms than liberal Big Government does in our wallets and businesses. How many more land mines do these country club GOP FOOLS step on before they get it?
So long as they insist on staying buddied up to religion-based groups & organizations, they’re asking for it.
Gee, A Woman (in Tx) how did we every manage to make the greatest nation in the history of the world since we had Founders that “buddied up to religious groups” that did things like start public schools and public hospitals.
Don’t you feel a bit out of place in that horrible Bible Belt state, Texas or are you one of those Austin weirdos?
This controversy, as well as the reaction of most on the right is extremely upsetting to me. What is most clear is that the vile Left has trained us all so well. They call the tune, they ring their bells, and we all comply by running scared. Whether it was a verbal blunder or otherwise, I can’t really say, but the notion that the entire Right can be painted as misogynists and cavemen because one obscure man says one obscure thing in one obscure interview is preposterous.
The fact that this can happen, and that the Right responds to the defamations and serial abuse of the Left so pathetically means the Right thinks of itself as weak and subservient to the framing of the Left. This is UNACCEPTABLE.
We have much work still to do to. The fact that nearly everyone accepts the Lefts framing shows how debased the Right has become. This incident also illustrates, in nauseating clarity, how fragile and wanting the Right’s political and media leadership is. Our leaders should be saying FU when the press and the Left do what they always do. We should not run scared from the likes of the scum, traitors, totalitarian freaks, commies, terrorists, liars, criminals, perverts, parasites, deluded fools, morons, etc. which are the Left’s constituency.
Reply to Yabba Dabba @ 10:
“Much work still to do to. The fact that nearly everyone accepts the Left’s framing shows how debased the Right has become. This incident also illustrates, in nauseating clarity, how fragile and wanting the Right’s political and media leadership is.”
Is it too much to ask for Bridget Johnson to grow some balls? And to not be a willing and submissive victim of a forcible rape by the media?
It almost comes off that the evil rapists have impregnated her. Say if you consider every screed against Akin as yet another love child taken to term.
Is this over-the-top? I want what I hope would be the Party of Sanity to be on the top, and not prison raped by the media yet again.
True.
It will be Romney + Ryan in Nov then working to reform the GoP from the spineless Progressive-lite party of nothing they have become. They just want their turn at the trough again.
Spot-on.
“by Bridget Johnson
Republicans face unexpected onslaught on social issues heading into a convention where jobs and debt were supposed to headline.”
And what was Bridget’s headline? Akin Fallout Turns GOP Economic Messaging on Its Head
Keep goose-stepping your way down the halls of the Progressive media complex, Bridget. Akin is a stupid poo poo head, but Romney is a rock-solid candidate, isn’t he?
Romney prototyped Obamacare. Romney was a Progressive Republican before it was ‘cool’. Romney supported Obama’s version of NDAA.
BUT ROMNEY’S OUR MAN!
Not like that Tea Partying, ultra-Constitutionalist Todd Akin to sometimes pulls a bonehead manuever and says something dumb. He’s just going to get in the way of our big-spending, big-government solutions, anyway, isn’t he Bridget?
I mean, what a jerk. Who needs him mucking up all our fun? He thinks people should be free to make their own choices in their day-to-day lives. What an antiquated fool.
What is most clear is that the vile Left has trained us all so well.
What is clear is that sane republicans (majority) know full well that far right so-con (minority) issues are the kiss of death, and the stench of so-con righteousness is so putrid that even a whiff can wreck an election. What you are seeing here is damage control. The GOP knows better than to include so-con planks but it keeps them quiet… until some complete pinhead like Akin comes along, and the next thing you know, *all* republicans are bible thumping pinheads, and why? They *stupidly* added an abortion plank that is pretty close to what Akin is all about.
It no longer matters. The damage control won’t work. There *are* too many bible toting pinheads and they will lose this election even more spectacularly than the derailment of the McCain campaign with their incessant neanderthal bullshit about gay marriage.
2008: gays. LOSS.
2012: abortion and idiot biology: LOSS.
The pattern ain’t pretty. $1Trillion deficits and more, all because the accursed bible thumpers can’t keep their idiocy to themselves. I sure hope you treasonous geniuses are proud of yourselves. You’ve handed the country to the marxists.
You can be respectful of people of faith and promise to give them a place at the table and a fair hearing. And cutting funding for this supposed right inside an emanation wrapped in a penumbra is a great fiscally sensible idea. But again wasting political capital on trying to ban abortion is the definition of a stupidity. It’s a settled issue. The GOP will lose a vast swath of suburbia and young people who would be inclined to consider Romney and Ryan’s fiscally responsible message. And they would do so to cater to the likes of Honey Boo Boo viewers.
When faith is used as a cudgel to impose the will of a sizeable minority upon a majority to the detriment of all, it deserves ZERO respect.
Only a dumbsky like Akin would go into these weeds. A sensible candidate would’ve rightly deflected this by asking how with our fiscal dire straits why we would spend time even talking about it.
As per Akin, good news for teenagers looking to avoid pregnancy; simply have the female activate the illegitimate rape prevention protocol post coitus. Let’s hope the condom manufacturers don’t find out about that science.
“Only a dumbsky like Akin would go into these weeds. A sensible candidate would’ve rightly deflected this by asking how with our fiscal dire straits why we would spend time even talking about it.”
No. His name is on the papers that supported the issues the reporter asked about. Had he tried to deflect the question, he would have *still* been called on it. And he wouldn’t have been the first.
Faith?
You need faith to tell you that a fetus is an early stage of human life? Do you need faith to tell you that 60 year old is in the “senior” stage of human life?
Does I require faith to think that killing a human being goes against their natural rights? Without faith, are you not subject to the same laws, with the same natural rights as the rest of the citizenry?
You think that it’s a minority that believe killing human beings is wrong? You think it’s only “people of faith” who believe killing humans is wrong?
Perhaps you can clarify your world-view for me, becuase I’m really starting to worry about my own personal safety.
Exactly!
And the Democrats are still going to feature the abortionists (Cecile Richardson and Sandra Fluke) at their convention, along with having Jumah At The DNC 2012, where at least two radical Islamists will speak, and the key note speaker who was accused by three women of attempted rape and he paid one of them off to the tune of $850,000.00, Bill Clinton, but hey, let’s concentrate on a Republican gaffe.
Perhaps I should remind all of you that Elizabeth Warren has actually LIED about being a Native American and actually used that claim to get a tony position with a upper crust university and NO ONE on the Democrat side of the aisle is demanding she discontinue her campaign.
Focus people; you’re being played like a cheap fiddle.
Hi, Random Prog.
Please stop telling me what to suckon. I think you’re attitude is childish and your phraseology is disgusting.
But seriously, I’m not Southern, and I don’t understand why a Republican is criticizing other Republicans for being Conservative. Wait a minute. Wait. One. Minute.
You’re not a “Conservative” Republican, are you? You’re actually a Progressive! You claim the Republican Party is full of people like you!
Holy crap, the Tea Partiers were right! More than ever, we have to flush the Progressive garbage out of the Republican Party. That means we must be more directly involved, volunteer, run for office and vote.
Tea Partiers, I know we’re all working our butts off right now, but we have to go the extra mile. Bitching on internet forums and voting isn’t enough. We must volunteer (volunteers steer the direction of the Party) and we must run for office when possible.
It sucks, I know. I’m slammed at work, but we have to do it.
Fiscally conservative, socially liberal, better than 50% of the GOP and 75% of the population. I’d link to the relevant polls but a) I’m not here to do your homework for you, and b) I’m sure these are just a secular atheist progressive commie plot in the first place.
Try getting a clue. The GOP winning strategy is to insure the moderate (fisc-con soc-lib) vote (e.g. mine) because this also is attractive to the moderates of the opposition. When you have a political divide of 50/50, how you win is to attract part of the *other* 50%, not whip the already decided 50% into a frenzy.
In other words, genius, math is what you can suck on.
The Obama team are running around and up each others butts,
now the Republicans are acting really stupid over this comment by a dingy Senator wanna be.
How many times has Hairy Reid made stupid comments?
Nancy Peskily?
Joe(hair plugs)Biden?
And the great gaffer of all time, Barrack Oblamer?
Move on, let this clown win his election,
at least he is still 5 poll points ahead.
Maybe he will help us in the long run.
If the Democrats want to bleat about abortion and rape for the next 2 months, let them. It will backfire on them. They will look insane. If anyone bleats about The HR 3, calmly state it was to block federal funding for abortion, except in cases of forcible rape and incest. The disticntion forcible rape was made to differentiate between statutory rape, which is consensual sex with a minor, which was not intended to be included in the exception clause. Would that be too difficult? Is there something extremist here? No. Anything new? No. So continue with the campaign, and let the Democrats hyperventilate about it, please. They assume their obsessions are shared by everyone else. They aren’t, so let them obsess about it and they will, as I said, go off the deep end and appear unhinged.
I heard you on Tell Me More on NPR today Bridget. They even mentioned PJMedia.
Thumbs up!
Thank you!
Captain Akin of SpermTrek the Next Insemination: “Rapist sperm incoming! Put up those shields, Scotty!”
“Fire Spermton torpedoes, Mr. Data!”
The fact that Akins found a home in the Republican party for so many years shows just how much the party caters to the far right wing. Obviously the Congressman is not very bright and is ruled by his evangelical beliefs. He will probably issue a statement about creationism next. I don’t think Republicaqn voters should have to swallow their common sense and go on as usual. The fact that so many have adopted the religious dogma convinced me to leave the party and become an independent. Their Big Tent philosophy encompasses those who are dumb and dumber and who jump on the anti-abortuion bandwagon if at all possible.
The fact that Obama found a home in the democrat party for so many years shows just how much the party caters to power mad fascists.
(I posted this comment on another article, but figures it’s also fits here)
The problem is not Akin, it’s the Republican Party and conservatives as a whole. Everyone makes mistakes and have their own weird comments (I’m looking at you Mitt “I don’t care about the poor” Romney). Speaking of Romney, if we really held our candidates to high standards, than he really wouldn’t be running right now.
If we weren’t so ready to throw Akin under the bus, this turdstorm wouldn’t really go as far as it did. We could’ve defend him without acknowledging his comments, we could’ve ignore this issue as to not give it attention, we could’ve shift the attention to the incompetent incumbent McCaskill, but noooo. Of course, there’s also liberal trolls fanning the flames of this issue, but the fault really lies on the conservative side.
If Akin manages to win his senate race I propose a tea party ouster of him in the next primary. What a complete piece of trash.
I propose you purchase a clue.
First, do just the tiniest bit of research on Todd Akin before you re-open your giant flapper. Todd Akin is about as Tea Party as you can get.
You have no idea who this man is, but you’ve mindlessly jumped on the bandwagon, haven’t you?
You think you’re an independent thinker? You think you’re a Tea Partier?
The Mo Tea Party disagrees.
I’m a Tea Partier, and I speak for myself.
Obviously, you don’t understand the movement. Best of luck with that in future elections. Let me know how that mentality works out for you and your Progressive buddies.
Rasmussen today has McGaskill up by 10 over Todd Akin. This man has just guaranteed Obamacare survives. He’s staying in FOR HIMSELF ONLY. He is not the tea party candidate. He’s the democrat candidate and he’s a 100% trash.
“Rasmussen today has McGaskill up by 10 over Todd Akin.”
Well, hey, if someone else said it, it must be true! You truely are an independent thinker, aren’t you? Nobody spoon-fed information to you, did they?
Can I just take a guess? You consider yourself a Republican, but you think those darned Tea Party people are too extreme. Is that close?
Nope you’ve got it 100% wrong. I want us to win you fool and this guy is guaranteeing a loss. He’s staying in for himself only. He is 100% exactly opposite to everything the tea party is about. This guy is not the hill to die on.
Todd Akin voted against TARP twice. Voted against the GM government takeover. Voted against debt limit increase. He has a 97% lifetime ACU rating. He is more a conservistive whereas Romney is a liberal. That is probably the source of the animus. And the fact that he is not a Ruling Class toady who takes his orders from Karl Rove. I think all this qualifies him as a Tea Party type. And by the way, he is not pro-abortion and pro carbon tax, like Romney.
See, Kent? You’ve just proven how out of touch Todd Akin is with his constituents. That voting record is clearly not in line with the Tea Party philosophy. All you’ve done is given us a laundry list of reasons why the Tea Party should primary Todd Akin ASAP.
I mean, pfft! Who thinks a record like that is worthy of being called “Tea Party”. As if…
Obviously the only Tea Parties you attend involve elderly widows and doilies. But I do find your ignorance charming.
My sincere apologies. I thought it was obvious. The internet didn’t convey my dripping sarcasm like I thought it would.
The economy is tanking but the left will win with such weighty issues as contraception, vaginal jellies, womb occupation, and a “war on women”. Even the title is so illogical. What about all the GOP women? Are they being warred on? Are they victims? The whole thing is so farcical that it can only come from the pinheads on the left. Oh yeah. Let’s have four more years of Obama’s fascism because…..abortion matters! They have no idea how outdated they sound. Like a relic from another century. Let’s whip up the country into a frenzy over..abortion. YAWN.
Akin will get out by the next deadline in 11 days (when he realizes he’s toast), and the RCCC will put up the $$$$ to change the ballot. McCaskill (piece of garbage) will go on to electoral oblivion as she should.
Obama’s gone. Toast. This is just like Wisconsin, where everyone thought it was going to be close, but the governor pulled it out by 6-7%. All of this women stuff and Romney Bain stuff is just noise to try to stir up their base. Unfortunately, it won’t work.
Not with a 20-25 point gap with women and latino voters in the states that matter. Especially with women. I’d even expect large swaths of republican women to either stay home or vote for Obama considering recent events. Sorry, the math isn’t there for you. Their aren’t enough old white conservatives to make up the difference, and even they will be turning on “you people” now that they know you are out to destroy their Medicare. Their dislike of President Obama isn’t stronger than their love of the Medicare. You can bet on that. Nope, your fascist fantasy ends in November and it’s gonna hurt.
You sound like Nancy Pelosi.
You sound like a female cat in heat. Nasty …
And you shouldn’t speak ill of the next Speaker of the House.
This is not the “end of the conservative campaign as we know it.”
THE ESSENTIALS REMAIN UNCHALLENGED. GET A GRIP:
We, a majority of lawful, voting, citizens, have “turned a corner”. The passivity of McCain has been renounced. The fear of the SCAMers (State Controlled Amercian Media agents) has fled. The falsity of the “polls” is common knowledge.
* We have a new passion.
* We have WORTHY candidates.
* We FLOCK in hords to see them and hear them; while BO attempts to fill grade school auditoriums and JOE was sent home to his Mommy.
* WE ARE REACHING DEEPER TO GIVE CONTRIBUTIONS–TENS OF THOUSANDS OF NEW CONTRIBUTORS EVERY WEEK. WE ARE TENS OF MILLIONS AHEAD OF THE TYRANT AND THOSE WHO PULL HIS STRINGS.
* WE HAVE A PLAN; OUR LEADERS HAVE SPECIFIC-CONCRETE-PROPOSALS.
* WE HAVE THE MORAL RIGHT; THE TACTICAL ADVANTAGES; THE GIFTS OF ELOQUENCE WHICH DO NOT COME FROM A TELEPROMPTER.
WE ARE BUILDING ON 2010. WE WILL BE VICTORIOUS.
NO TIMIDITY. NO HESITATION. NO “HOPE WE CAN”–WE CAN AND WE WILL.
THE WIN WILL BE BIG. SO BIG THAT ALL THE CHEATING PLANNED WILL NOT BE ENOUGH.
New Sheriffs Coming to Town.
For those among us who still don’t have a clue, Akin in effect handing Obama several points in the polls by making a really stupid and unthinking remark. If he has an I.Q. above double digits, it certainly did not serve him well when he made his “legitimate rape” comment. If you are going to discuss abortion and rape, at least learn the proper descriptive words to use and don’t shoot your foot off by uttering ignorant remarks.
The media will not let this go and Akin did provide the much needed October surprise very early on in the campaign. He probably helped define the tone of the campaign and when you can get the populus up in arms over a stupid remark and keep in the forefront which the Democrats will most certainly do, when Obama is re-elected by default, i.e., stupidity on the part of Akin, he and Biden should throw a celebration dinner with Akin as the special guest of honor.
Dammit, we deserve better than this but when we court idiots who have diarrhea of the mouth at the most inopportune times, we get what we asked for. DEFEAT
Whether he drops out or not, I am afraid that the name of Todd Akin will go down in history alongside that of Rev. Dr. Samuel Burchard. In 1884, Grover Cleveland (D) ran against James G. Blaine (R). At a meeting attended by Blaine, Dr. Burchard said, “We are Republicans, and don’t propose to leave our party and identify ourselves with the party whose antecedents have been rum, Romanism, and rebellion.” Blaine didn’t appreciate the significance of that remark, but a reporter present did. The anti-Catholic slur enraged the Irish and Catholics and cost Blaine the New York vote, and with it, the election of 1884.
The commenters who point out that this is no windfall for the Democrats, at least on a national scale, are right. Let the Democrats run this campaign on abortion and contraception–as someone else pointed out, they will look crazy–how could anyone take that to be a significant issue this year? And their position on abortion is equally “extreme” and no more popular than that of the Republicans. They are working themselves up into a lather, building up fantasies, and we should be happy to let them run with it. And who knows–maybe Akin will even win–why assume that conservative Missourians who were planning to vote for him now won’t?
If at this point in the economic implosion this guy’s remark is an issue then the public is as stupid as the political ruling class thinks they are.
Brad, so true!
EDUCATE AND LIBERATE!
Unsurprisingly, you’re just not following.
The remarks show that the president is working hard on the economy and jobs and the republicans are more worried about abortion — i.e. they’re fiddling while Rome burns.
The message the dems have is that they’re trying hard and sure things aren’t really great yet, but at least they’re paying attention. This is the one thing that can save Obama, and the Akin affair, by showing that the official RNC position is to upset the 1973 abortion ruling, gift wrapped it.
It’s over. Obama via Akin FTW.
So how long has it been since you gave up thinking for yourself.
You could be incorrectly assuming that he ever started thinking for himself.
Congratulations to the writer for falling for another propaganda media generated issue which most Americans could care less about. Tempest in a media teapot. The real truth is the only ones really outraged are the far left feminists and commiecrat politicians. It is jobs, jobs, the economy and the economy. This has no real impact on the election except for a small number gullible people like this writer. I’ll bet this Republican candidate wins.
Curious, his position on rape: If it’s a legitimate rape, the victim will not get pregnant. I presume by “legitimate” he means rape as defined by the relevant state’s penal code and whether the rape fulfilled the required elements of the crime. That meaning is hardly beyond the pale as every peace officer must determine if the purported victim meets those criteria. Of course, such an innate biological reaction to a legitimate rape that Aiken seems to hypothesize would seem to violate evolution and natural selection, as with the dominate male mating rituals among deer where the buck gets all the does: apparently human pair bonding monogamy between one male and one female is a violation of evolutionary principles. The current explanation for the origins of this cultural form of sexual pair bonding among humans is that the weak males banded together to prevent the few dominant males from creating a sexual monopoly. On the other hand, some new medical research apparently explains morning sickness among females as an auto-immune reaction to a foreign body, namely the fetus. Apparently the females that do not get morning sickness exhibited a statistical correlation with blow jobs. Apparently the oral intake of semen acts as a sort antihistamine, which, of course, has no bearing on the current presidential election cycle. I suppose it could have remotely been an issue with Clinton. Narrative and the political agenda is everything.
Akin’s comment is just the tip of the iceberg . Many of the current Republican party’s beliefs are from another century….and not even the last one. It will never gain control of the government as long as it pushes those beliefs.
“From another Century” — wow. I am in awe that logic. Simply in awe.
Some things from another century:
Printing Press
Declaration of Independence
Trains and cars
Farming
Medicine
Mathematics
US Constitution
Bible
Control of fire
Speech and languages
Let’s drop it all! Is that what you really want?
Are you Ludwig’s sister?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=9%2F11+stress+causing+miscarriages&gbv=2&oq=9%2F11+stress+causing+miscarriages&gs_l=heirloom-hp.3…1609.10486.0.10799.34.31.1.2.2.0.188.3517.5j21.26.0…0.0…1c.V9xMf4NVwZA
ANd to think it was a short time ago that the ENTIRE leftist media was trumpeting the FACT that the STRESS of 9/11 was causing miscarriages. I think that to a woman, LEGITIMATE rape(as opposed to Crystal Mangum’s Duke Lacrosse team rape CLAIM) is as stressful as 9/11 and might just act the same way that the LSM SAID IT DID.
I am not a Missourian(?) I am from NJ(home of RINO Christie) and took the TIME to read his comments IN TOTO and then researched. Took me a milisecond to find the Tufts U 6/2003 published study linking cortisol/stressors to spontaneous abortions.
Any losses are the fault of the RNC, the Establishment Republicans and that monor Sean Hannity. Dear Lord you stuttering fool couldn’t you have left well enough alone for ONE DAY and let the guy craft a response? Nooooooo, you had HAD to ‘get’ him for your show.
You think the hulabaloo over Akin is bad? Wait until the left gets ahold of the RNC Keynote speech and comapres it to HIS ACTUAL LEGISLATIVE RECORD.
CC is almost to the left of Uhhhbama.
Brawk! You’re a great American! Brawk! You’re a great American! Brawk! You’re a great American! Haw! Haw! Haw! Brawk! You’re a great American!
(and the rest of your post is spot-freaking-on, brother!)
Spending time talking about abortion as opposed to the fiscal mess in this election is like worrying about making your bed while your house is engulfed in a 3-alarm fire. Or like being broke and yet armed to the teeth and borrowing from the local Chinese takeout place to pay for the upkeep on the car on cinderblocks in the front yard. Yes, abortion is evil.
But face facts-it’s not changing. The vast majority of Americans have come to think of it as evil, they don’t approve of late term abortions and do not want to federally fund any of it(spare rape when Akin’s heretofore unknown girl power of deterring rape conception fails-who knew?). But it’s a huge stretch to think it’s ever going to be ended. We have had 40+ years since Roe and practically NOTHING has changed. Keep banging your head against the wall and expecting anything other than a concussion is the height of insanity.
A GOP government that orders you around about your morality is little better than a liberal government that robs your wallet. Why sis this so hard for some supposed “conservatives” to understand? DOn’t tread on me was an 18th century way of saying leave us the f____ alone.
Bugg,
You and I would probably agree on a lot. The specifc place where we’d debate is on whether or not abortion is a core problem in our society. It took me a long time to move from where you were, to where I’m at today.
I think abortion is killing an innocent human being. At the same time, it’s a tough situation as the baby is technically part of the woman’s body. At the same time, the baby is also made up of the genetic material of the father. If the father was married to the mother, would she be having the abortion in the first place?
How many married couples go for abortions? How does this affect our entire culture?
Is the economy a more immediate issue for more people? Yes it is. Does this mean we ignore a huge problem in our country and throw people like Todd Akin under the bus? I won’t. He’s my Rep, and soon he’ll be one of my Senators.
I can respect your view and agree with it. But I’m not everyone. We can limit abortion, and we can refuse to fund it spare rape. But beyond that what ever you and I believe is not what a majority of Americans think and feel. it is tough, but it’s also clear that these are decisions men and women make for themselves every day and should not be put beyond them because of some government-enacted ban. Spending a national election ruing about something that has reached and uneasy peace is pointless to me when we have dire fiscal issues that need to be addressed forthwith before the republic collapses.
The fiscal disaster is just a horrible symptom of disease. If we don’t get people thinking and talking about the social issues, then you won’t be able to “fix” the economy.
People are taking welfare who are able-bodied, and people like us are shouting at them when they flip out a book of foodstamps at the grocery store.
Get it? The social structure has unraveled, and you’re freaking out about the economy. It’s like being worried that mom and dad have gone over budget when they’re “this far” from a divorce.
Screw the budget, save the marriage. If you don’t address the problem in the marriage, the budget will be the least of your worries.
And how is teaching the pseudo biology of the ability of women to purge themselves of unwanted pregnancies going to show us the way to fixing the social problems facing the American family? Forcing rape victims to try magic to prevent a resulting pregnancy may not be a great starting point to solving the problem of failed marriages, no? ABO2012
Think you’ve nailed it, but good luck. Ken, up thread, told me he’d rather have hyper inflation than legalized abortion. We’ve already got the latter and the former looks likely.
Oh yeah, the cause of all this is people like me, a “libertine” as I was also called up thread. Along with wishes for my financial destruction.
Abortion is a serious issue, but underneath some comments and views, is not regard for human life, but that old worry about other people’s sexual lives.