ABC Raids Message Boards to ‘Break’ a Decades-Old Story
The Blotter stirred interest on Monday with the painfully titled “U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed with Secret ‘Jesus’ Bible Codes.” ABC’s Joseph Rhee, Tahman Bradley, and Brian Ross wrote:
Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the United States military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.
The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers.
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Written in a scandalous tone perhaps better suited for Page Six, the ABC News team notes that the tritium-illuminated optical sights manufactured by industry leader Trijicon have abbreviations noting Biblical verses. The verses are on each and every product Trijicon ships, including variants of the Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight (ACOG) telescopic sights and Reflex close quarters combat sights commonly used by U.S. forces. The scripture references always contain the word “light,” a reference to both company founder Glyn Bindon’s Christian faith and the fact that the glowing tritium used in these sights make them useful in almost any lighting condition.
The “secret ‘Jesus’ Bible codes” are hardly secret. They are noted on the body of each optic, appended to the model number. For example, the line on a telescopic 4-power, 32mm lens ACOG sight reads “ACOG4X32JN8:12,” with “JN8:12″ a rather less-than-cryptic reference to John 8:12 — a verse in the New Testament that reads:
When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”
A Reflex sight manufactured by the company notes a model number line of “REFLEX1X2-2COR 4:6,” with the familiar biblical abbreviation of “2COR 4:6″ referring to 2 Corinthians 4:6:
For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
Other variants of these Trijicon optics also contain a biblical abbreviation openly appended to the product number, as do some of the other optical products made by the company. The abbreviations are an element that Tom Munson, Trijicon’s director of sales and marketing, says has “always been there.”
As it happens, “always” would go back to when Trijicon optics were first adopted by the U.S. military, starting with an early version of the ACOG entering the Army’s Advanced Combat Rifle Program in 1987 — 23 years ago.
Trijicon optics first went to war with the U.S. Army in Operation Just Cause in 1989, and Trijicon sights were used in the 1990-91 Gulf War, also known as Operation Desert Storm. By 1995, the 4×32 ACOG was adopted by the U.S. Army Special Forces, with the Reflex joining the Green Berets in 1996. By 2004, a variant of the 4×32 ACOG became the first standard combat rifle optical sight of the Marine Corps, after a 229-year tradition of relying almost exclusively on iron sights.
As an atheist and long term shooter with a few Trijicon equipped firearms, I must say I am mildly amused. Also, having four of Hawkins books, I’d say I am more impressed with his scientific knowledge than his politics.
There’s silliness on both sides of the equation, particularly when the Elite Media can make much ado about nothing.
I will be interesting to see if the government tries to force Trijicon to remove the scripture references from the products that the military buys. If Trijicon doesn’t comply, will the government stop buying Trijicon sights and buy inferior sights? If so, this will be another example of political correctness putting our soldiers at risk in the same vein as the Nidal Hasan episode.
Doesn’t ABC have anything better to do?
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Why is it that persons of a particular religious group seem to always be the arbiters of what is allowed and not allowed when discussing religion in America? Just who made Mr. Weinstein the person in charge of regulating what the official dogma is concerning religion in our military?
Of course ABC did not press the issue. They only wanted to make it an issue because they are supporters of a left-wing agenda.
If an atheists can make a better scope then bring it on–let there be a competition for those defense dollars.
At some point in our future, atheists and those of this particular religion who seem to think this is NOT a Christian nation will face serious consequences for their actions. I, as a Catholic, am sick and tired of this tedious harping on religion. Yet when the issue of Islam comes up both atheists and this particular relgious group are errily silent…
Nice article. I like the part about asking which Federal law is being broken. The only military code, from what I understand, is for the soldiers not to write religious messages on their equipment. From the pictures I see of the soldiers in action, I think they aren’t allowed to write anything on their equipment anymore. It surely doesn’t look like the days of WWII or Vietnam where the helmets had all sorts of messages on them.
The sights are a little expensive, but if I ever need a highend sight, I know which company I am buying from.
These optics are also sold to the civilian market. No breaking of law. If a private company wants to use references to the bible that is their perogative.
We will have a lot made of this by a very compliant media who likes to make mountains out of nothing. These markings are part of the model number/serial numbers. If the company who manufactures these items use Letters and Numbers that can be equated to biblical passeges it is thier business and none of ours. The only question that needs to be asked is do these sights work? The answer to that question is a resounding yes.
for anyone not familiar with these sights:they are fantastic tools that give any soldier employing one a huge advantage over their advisary.
they also cut down on civilian casualties.
any nitwit who starts bleating about ceasing the goverment contract over this should be lightly beaten.
I think IN AND OUT BURGER has bible quotes on the bottom of the package the burgers come in.
not having an imaginary friend myself I am not offended, but slightly amused.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
ABC seems to have a First Amendment problem. They don’t like it when people of certain faiths freely exercize their faith. Tough.
The eternal vigilance of the mainstream media against… Scripture verses? Somebody tell Janet Napolitano – it’s a right-wing recruiting tool!
I’m a church employee (not member of the church where I work, though) and thought you might be interested to know the reaction to this at my workplace. Without quoting directly, the response is that this is a misuse of scripture, and needlessly endangering the lives of people in uniform by implying that this is a holy war.
Tibetan Buddhists have a prayer wheel that offers a prayer whenever a mechanical action is performed. I wonder what it would take to incorporate that prayer wheel technology into the mechanism of an M16/M4 in the interest of ecumenical outreach and as payback to the people who blew up the Bamiyan Buddah statues.
and of course, by PUBLICIZING this in the way they did, they’re doing what they always accuse US of doing, inflaming the anger of the terrorists and (presumably) creating some new ones. At the very least its propaganda for them to maintain their stupid fiction of the ‘crusades’…
I don’t blame Trijicon at all, as they’ve been doing this for a long time and have never tried to hide it or apologize for it. It’s really a nonstory, unless this bad journalism forces some PC army jerk to cancel orders and buy crap sights to avoid the ‘appearance of religious bias’, even though our enemies are SCREAMING RELIGIOUS BIAS FROM DAY ONE.
Something will have to be done about teaching Einstein in school.
He said:
“GOD does not play dice with the universe”
Germans were so outraged they called Einstein’s theories “Jewish Science”.
Why are we teaching Jewish Science in our schools.
And for the humor impaired: [/sarc]
#13 Annie Oakley:
“Without quoting directly, the response is that this is a misuse of scripture, and needlessly endangering the lives of people in uniform by implying that this is a holy war.”
Have you apprised them of the fact that it IS a Holy War?
It certainly is to our enemies…”Jihadists”, “martyrs”, n’all that?
I’m the worst Catholic in the world, but I’d be happy to tote an ACOG with a Talmudic inscription stamped into it. Heck, if it isn’t disrespectful, I’d mount a mezzuzah on the stock of my machine gun.
Can’t hurt, and may even help.
Please take note all you atheists out there; you won’t be able to hide from His presence. He will find you where ever you are and root you out and confront you with His Truth. You will have your chance to say to His face that you reject Him as He has allowed you to do. You are responsible for your actions and will be held accountable for all of your deeds in this life.
It’s no wonder you hate to see any mention of Him in society or government (even though He made all the laws). This reminds you of your sin. The result is you go around trying to sear your conscience with a hot iron so it won’t bother you anymore. You may be successful for a while but the day of reckoning will come. There is still time to change.
I really have no problem with terrorists believing they are being killed by “Jesus guns”. I hope it terrorizes the terrorists.
They. Hate. Us.
I saw the article yesterday and thought it was pretty cool. The faux outrage was entertaining.
I’ve been shopping for a good scope. Was thinking Leatherwood, but I immediately checked out the Trijicon line. The 3X9 Accupoint would be my choice if it had a 30mm tube.
Charlie
The message should be on the ammunition and the intended target.
That would be literally sending a message to the jihadists.
WHAT! no mention of the “pig fat and grease” Used to coat the FMJ bullets used in the weapons themselves?
ABC must be slippin’!
The most ridiculous thing about this story is a supposed Christian manufacturing and selling weapons. It is thought amongst biblical scholars that Jesus whipped the moneychangers due to their profiteering off ANIMAL sacrifice. I wonder what Jesus has done to this arms manufacturer in the afterlife.
All I have to add is, “America, buy Trijicon”. This company manufactures a Quality Product which is Protecting and Making more Effective our soldiers in their battle agains IslamoFascist terrorists. Guide their descent into hell! Is this fun or what? And are these “people” silly?
As long as the manufacturer engraves this on their own behalf, I do not see a problem. However, if the DOD specifically requested that each sight was engraved with a religious verse, it would be a different story entirely.
That said, I won’t feel particularly sorry for the manufacturer if their product is no longer bought. There are good reasons to leave religion and politics out of business.
So we also need to get rid of the Vulcan, the Hellfire, the Phoenix, and Aegis?
Or is it only Christianity that’s unacceptable to these bigots?
“The most ridiculous thing about this story is a supposed Christian manufacturing and selling weapons… I wonder what Jesus has done to this arms manufacturer in the afterlife.”
You’re not a Christian, are you?
All the biblical quotes I’ve seen mention the word “light”. Trijicon’s optics all work by gathering light via fiber optics, or tritium for night sights, and using that light to make the reticle/aiming point. Seems a rather clever pun to me… Fiat Lux! (Let There Be Light!) ;^)
Spake #18 Jeffery:
“He will find you where ever you are and root you out and confront you with His Truth.”
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Seriously.
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Providence doesn’t come to punish you or take you prisoner, but to set you free and bring you home.
The hymn “Amazing Grace” was written by John Newton, who sailed slave ships. Read the lyrics and then meditate on the things he must have done and seen.
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@#16 – I’m thinking it’s kind of cool, personally. I’d like to use one, hoping that the Lord is helping me aim my shots, etc. My employer (the church I do not belong to) feels that this should not be a holy war (even though, to the opposition it is) and that we as a secular nation, and as Christiansshould distance ourselves from the appearance of one.
As an atheist, I implore you, don’t blame this nonsense on atheism. The MSM, academics, etc. are not atheistic, they are anti-Christian, as part of their disdain of anything associated with Dead White European Males. I find what Trijicon does amusing, and actually admire the cleverness involved.
I generally like Dawkins, but he does go overboard at times.
If a non-Christian were to look at the model number how would they even know what it meant?
As for WWJD?
“Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered. He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors’ ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.” The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.” “That is enough,” he replied. (Luke 22:35-38, NIV)”
Later He admonishes the disciples about being quick to draw a sword. I take that to mean that we should be judicious in our use of violence. Since the Trijon system reduces “spray and pray” and the resulting civilian deaths it is appropriate.
Why did they feel that they needed to hide it by making it appear to be part of the serial number?
No better than having “Gott mit uns” engraved on belt buckles. Look that up if you don’t know the historical reference.
And I’m all for killing terrorists. Hang them up by their balls and slit open their bellies as far as I’m concerned. Just leave the F***ing religion out of it, OK?
“I wonder what Jesus has done to this arms manufacturer in the afterlife.”
#24, Wee. If he isn’t up to Jesus’s caliber, I’m sure Jesus will fire him. Isn’t that in the Catholic Canons?
I’m not surprised, and not bothered one bit. A good rifleman needs to feel a little closer to the Lord as he slays the unrighteous. My hero from “Saving Private Ryan” is Pvt. Jackson — “My high tower and my deliverer, my shield, and He in whom I trust”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlBEFoVdbrw
It’s tacky to put scripture on sights. If an atheist wants he call always file them off.
RE: AnnieOakley 7:12 AM
“by implying that this is a holy war”
A holy war? in 1987???
I don’t this this is a big deal, albeit the markings are mildly inappropriate. My bigger beef, as a Jewish gun collector and rifle shooter, is that none of the references are from the Old Testament.
It’s part of the serial number?
When I read that article the other day, I wondered what on earth they were talking about and where ABC picked up their decoder ring. I tried to figure out how you could fit a Bible verse on a sight, and how anybody could read it if you did. Now I realize I needed the decoder to unscramble ABC’s message. I was on a treasure hunt, didn’t even know it, and completely missed the most important clue: The Biblical “references” somehow “appeared” to look like the model numbers on another Trijicon product.
It wasn’t till I went back to the site today that I saw the video still with what is a raised, not inscribed, set of letters and numbers. So that’s what Biblical “markings” look like! In the very cleverest part of the ruse, they are actually part of a model number which look like a randomly generated password! Now I get it!
When your story doesn’t even include the word “serial,” and you have to hide the centerpiece in an addendum that looks like all the other in-text advertisements I ignore, you can’t blame the deliberate misdirection on the headline writers.
Blessed is the peace-maker – not the peace-talker….
Hey, ABC Junior Associate Editor and Vassar graduate, go into your purse, pocket, or European shoulder bag, and get a twenty dollar bill. Turn it face down. Look above the White House at the small print. What does it say? Then go in the next room and f yslf. I am not a religious person but a supporter of the Constitution, unlike our President and many members of his party in Congress who took an oath to protect and defend it.
“Doesn’t ABC have anything better to do?”
Um….no.
“the general reaction seems to have been mild bemusement…”
Really? “Puzzlement, confusion, or bewildering?” It isn’t just a low-key form of “amusement.”
I’ll let you all in on another little secret — if you actually look thru the scope, you’ll see the target in “cross” hairs — Will these fundamentalist Christians never stop??? Oh dear, what will ABC do now???
All I can say is that if you give me a choice between a Trijicon sight with “GEN 1:3″ on it, or a Benchmade knife with “ATF: Always Think Forfeiture” on it, I’ll take the sights, please. As Jefferson noted, religious twaddle “neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg” — neither of which you can say about BATF forfeiture. It’s pretty obvious which of these should be objectionable to all Americans.
I caught about 15 seconds of that ABC news story.
That 15 seconds was long enough to find some blathering moron decrying how, “We are training some of Iraqi Armed forces with these scripture-laced weapons. How is that going to win their ‘hearts and minds’?”
I snorted… “Oh, no! If we’re not careful, some of those Islamists might get really mad and start killing our people indiscriminately! Oh, wait…”
wait till ABC finds out about the scripture verse inscribed on the bags at In’n'Out Burger…
Good for Trijicon! We need more true American courage to stand up for what we believe in. The scripture verse should be on every rifle also,not just the sights.
I told my wife about this when I saw the article yesterday.
She said any mom with a son in the military (which IS us) should feel comforted.
I said “I wonder what they’d do if they knew about Buck knives?”
That company issues a complete Bible verse with their product.
I own 3 models, and I’m not even Christian.
What about NASA using the names Mercury and Apollo for spacecraft? Both Greek gods.
Since the recent re-discovery by the MSM of these inscriptions, many more people have read those two verses this week than otherwise would have – and, who knows? maybe a good percentage of those people decided to read more!
Thank you, MSM, for helping out with the Great Commission! God used you and you didn’t even know it. Once in a rare while you folks in the media end up spreading TRUTH, instead of lies, and it’s incredibly funny when you do it without realizing it.
Who knows? Maybe even some in the MSM are, right now, reading the Good News, and letting some light in themselves, all because someone who worships at the altar of Atheistic Humanism didn’t like someone else’s religion being alluded to in public. That one Atheist may have been the catalyst for 10,000 new Christians! If even one person found the truth because of all this, I laugh and praise the God of creation for his daily-proven genius.
#41 jcrue,
I like your commentary on that phrase – it’s perfect.
Icredible, who are the idiots that don’t understand they are in a Jihad which is a holy war against us? This is the most ignorant thing I have ever heard in my life, and should never have been reported as such. Please, all of you, realize without religion – even for the bad parts – in the end, there would most likely be anarchy and lawlessness. That is why religion flourished, people will kill each other for a variety of reasons with now type of law in the first place. Kind of like santa for kids you dorks. So if you don’t believe as an adult, that is up to you, but in the end, it is sooooo stupid to not understand the overall benifits to a reformed religion. Get over it and get behind OUR guys and quit worrying about non-sense, I mean, don’t we ALL believe islam as such is basically non-sense?
Richard Dawkins is NOT an atheist. He IS anti-Christian, but he’s not an atheist.
Search his site for Islam, and see how he treats it. He speaks quite favorably on Islam quite often. Christianity on the other hand will lead him to all manner of invective.
A good journalist/interviewer who takes the opportunity to simply ask Dawkins to say the same things about Islam that he says about Christianity will have themselves quite the scoop and an excellent takedown of this fraud.
thanks for the link to Richard Dawkins. I have not seen or read anything from Richard that wasn’t reasonable.
I have read one of his books and seen him in interviews. He never said anything that I disagreed with nor was he sounding irrational. I would not say that about those who interviewed him.
regards
Jason Coleman:
“Richard Dawkins is NOT an atheist. He IS anti-Christian, but he’s not an atheist”
He’s pretty darn close. On a scale from 1 to 10, one being absolute, certain belief in god and 10 being absolute, certain belief that there is no god, he once described himself as (from memory) a 9.5.
“A good journalist/interviewer who takes the opportunity to simply ask Dawkins to say the same things about Islam that he says about Christianity will have themselves quite the scoop and an excellent takedown of this fraud”
Google the phrase “dawkins on islam”. See for yourself. – he doesn’t single out christianity at all.
I have acogs on both of my tactical rifles.The set up with the mini holo sight on top is sahweet! It might be noted by the hand wringing sallie’s that these scopes are not an integral part of the rifle.Meaning Muslim allies can remove them if they wish.With the M-4A1 or M-16A4, they just need to install a back up aperture sight or use a different scope.Simple.
David Jay and Annie O, do you remember the “fatwa”.You know, a religious decree by the ayatollah’s to wage jihad against the “great satan” America, issued during the Iranian revolution in 1979? To them that made it by definition a “holy war”.The American public just refuses to acknowledge this fact due to political correctness/stupidity.
Ahhhh,,, yes; I always dip my bullets in pig fat. Just in case.
Wait until ABC News discovers that every US Navy Officers Sword displays the Jewish Star of David. Imagine the Islamists trying to wrap their heads around that.
It would be nice if these self appointed guardians of the First Amendment actually read the document. We do not have a federally established religion in this country. At least we did not before the acolytes of Gore and Global Warming gained power. There was no doubt when the Constitution was written and for 200 years following what an establishment of religion means. The Church of England is Established as is the Presbyterian Church in Scotland. They are supported by taxpayers and have a formal voice in government. Bishops of the CofE sit in the House of Lords. Two hundred years ago some of the states that ratified the Bill of Rights had established churches at their level. Maryland for example was founded by and for the Catholics by Lord Baltimore. The entire point of the Establishment Clause is to protect minority rights to freedom of conscious and worship without imposition by the Federal government.
It may be possible to make a policy argument against fielding equipment with scriptural references on it and it may be possible to argue that the self confidence that displays will engender more respect and be effective. That debate has nothing to do with the Constitution. One argument raised against the Crusader artillery system was that the enemy fight find the name inflammatory and intimidating. Maybe we should do something really frightening and attack our enemies with weapons named after Barney that kill while singing.
this kind of adds weight to the old adage about no atheists in foxholes. that would just be just horrible, i tell you, that we would offend a terrorist,when the shooter is about to pop a cap in his ass. how much more offensive can we get. tell him to lawyer up and sue the shooter, if he survives.
A fantastic idea to put biblical references on US equipment. The info. should be disseminated widely, it may then stop unfriendly forces using the equipment if it fell into their dirty hands.
I have real trouble referring to Dawkins as an Athiest.
I’ve heard him speak on several occasions. And the best I can gather is that he is on a crusade, a mission if you will. And every time I hear him speak, with the unending venom and vitriol I conclude quite simply…
Dawkins does not disbelieve God!
Dawkins HATES God!
I’m sorry, but it is impossible to Hate something – the existance of which you do not believe.
jd
This is reminiscent of Judas Priest’s lead singer Rob Halford revealing he’s homosexual sometime ago. ~15 years after the fact most people knew this anyway.
This story, as well as Halford’s is not about the story. But the time which it’s revealed.
Due to Republicans winning important seats in the Senate recently the alphabet ‘news’ sources are releasing ‘breaking’ information they feel will stir the pot, so to speak.
If the administration can’t win the fight, then their usurpers will gladly take up the reigns.
Here in Israel, the IDF uses lots of Trijicon scopes. All of the scopes are inscribed with New Testament Bible Codes.
So the Jewish Armed Forces are using Christian Rifle Scopes to fight Fanatical Muslims.
Is the poetic justice?
Pictures of the IDF Christian Scopes and Rifles here.
Lifeofthemind, that’s not a Star of David. The Star of David has 6 points.
“….At some point in our future, atheists and those of this particular religion who seem to think this is NOT a Christian nation will face serious consequences for their actions. I, as a Catholic, am sick and tired of this tedious harping on religion. Yet when the issue of Islam comes up both atheists and this particular relgious group are errily silent…”
Sorry, blotto, it’s not a Christian nation. We do not have an establishment of one religion. And stop sneaking around. We all know you meant “Jew”. Say “Jew.” Us Jews are NOT “eerily silent” about Islamofascism. I dont know what corner of the world you live in or where you get your news – Stormfront? Opus Dei? I see Jews all over the place trying to make people take Islamism seriously. Daniel Pipes, David Horowitz, Barry Rubin, Dennis Praeger, Melanie Phillips, Meryl Yourish, Richard Landes, Omri Ceren, Pam Geller, our own Roger Simon and Phyllis Chesler, the entire staff of Commentary… just off the top of my head …. I’m sure I am missing many…
What a lot of hoo-hah over very little. The numbers are part of the serial number, and are very small, about the size of the word “Liberty” on a quarter, and etched. They do NOT stand out. And if you didn’t KNOW what the numbers were, you wouldn’t know what the numbers were! “JN” is obviously “John”? Yeah, right.
Of course, had it been a company which included citation of the Koran in serial numbers, I doubt there would be the fuss going on. What is good for the gander is no longer good for the goose. Shariah, here we come!
ABC (and Obama) is Anti-Military, Anti-Religion. They suck. This is a big event for them. Call their sponsors and complain about these biases.
Chick-Fil-A is closed on Sunday in honor of the Lord’s Day. Founder Truett Kathy has a huge philanthrophic commitment to Orphanages.
In-N-Out (yeah baby! – a Double Double! Thank the Lord I live in SoCal. The government in CA sucks like ABC but the weather, Chick-Fil-A and In-N-Out ROCK!!) has Bible verses on their cups and wrappers.
Doug Giles (Hannah’s Dad) has a humorous take on “Will this amount to an AlQueda Recruitment Tool??”
http://townhall.com/columnists/DougGiles/2010/01/23/what_do_jesus,_rifle_scopes_and_dead_terrorists_have_in_common_trijicon?page=1
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