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		<title>By: Quentin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 23:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #4:

The best bumper sticker I ever saw was in Hay River, Alberta  (better that &quot;cold, dead hands&quot; stuff):
&quot;When they take my gun it&#039;ll be warm and empty!&quot;</description>
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<p>The best bumper sticker I ever saw was in Hay River, Alberta  (better that &#8220;cold, dead hands&#8221; stuff):<br />
&#8220;When they take my gun it&#8217;ll be warm and empty!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#36 Atheism is a religion. It is more of a religion than Christianity which is based upon fact. A real Christian is apolitical but as a citizen he or she is free to vote however they want. As one of my atheist friends said, &quot;there is no difference between a man and an animal.&quot; I said &quot;wrong because animals don&#039;t pay taxes.&quot;

As one who passed through the halls of academia I was appalled by the brutish behavior and lack of reason on the part of my professors. I entered the university as a Kennedy Democrat and came out a Goldwater Republican. Quite the opposite of most people. Fear and intimidation are their stock in trade and people many years after college are still afraid of being called a neanderthal. They project all their mean vile behavior onto their opponents. As the saying goes &quot;your best defense isa good offense &quot; and who would want to defend their cruel and inhumane positions. That is why they struggle to change the meaning of words. It makes them less appalling.

Liberals have been around for eons. They usually close out a great civilization. Ours is about to end. They have had control of our schools for more than 60 years. Last week I sat next to a girl at the airport who was breathlessly telling her friend &quot;we are about to have health care like they have in Sweden&quot;. She knows nothing about either subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#36 Atheism is a religion. It is more of a religion than Christianity which is based upon fact. A real Christian is apolitical but as a citizen he or she is free to vote however they want. As one of my atheist friends said, &#8220;there is no difference between a man and an animal.&#8221; I said &#8220;wrong because animals don&#8217;t pay taxes.&#8221;</p>
<p>As one who passed through the halls of academia I was appalled by the brutish behavior and lack of reason on the part of my professors. I entered the university as a Kennedy Democrat and came out a Goldwater Republican. Quite the opposite of most people. Fear and intimidation are their stock in trade and people many years after college are still afraid of being called a neanderthal. They project all their mean vile behavior onto their opponents. As the saying goes &#8220;your best defense isa good offense &#8221; and who would want to defend their cruel and inhumane positions. That is why they struggle to change the meaning of words. It makes them less appalling.</p>
<p>Liberals have been around for eons. They usually close out a great civilization. Ours is about to end. They have had control of our schools for more than 60 years. Last week I sat next to a girl at the airport who was breathlessly telling her friend &#8220;we are about to have health care like they have in Sweden&#8221;. She knows nothing about either subject.</p>
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		<title>By: AtheistConservative</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/a-republican-at-my-cocktail-party/#comment-354289</link>
		<dc:creator>AtheistConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I respect their political beliefs ... if conservatives could make their arguments on the basis of shared values and beliefs, rather than trying to impose religious dogma on their fellow&quot;

As a subversive you&#039;re quite poor. You can&#039;t even hold a straight face through three sentences.

Sir, I could debate circles around you. Any topic, any issue. You would be crying and begging for mercy - or, like most statists do, probably just resort to ad hominem attacks and screaming.

This is why your type don&#039;t like talking with Conservatives. It has nothing to do with &#039;religious dogma&#039; - which is a hilarious non-issue; when was the last time someone invoked &#039;religious dogma&#039; to rail against Obama&#039;s massive deficit spending, takeover of private industry, and attempt to take over health care? 

&quot;It seems like conservatives have a bit of a persecution complex that isn’t really justified by recent history&quot;

Not at all. We realize that the vast majority of America is at odds with the MSM, the entertainment industry, and the academic crowds - all of whom are centered in big cities. We know from polling that the vast majority of this country is Conservative. 

We don&#039;t complain about persecution from real Americans. Just from the trendy, left-wing, tired, empty-headed, hateful people with whom we have to associate. The &#039;entitled&#039; crowd who think the universities, big cities, movies, television, newspapers, magazines, and so on are their property. 

The biggest indicator of this schism was the meteoric rise of Fox News. Which is why you lefties hate it so much: as with all things, you think you DESERVE complete control of all forms of communication, because everything you say is perfect. Even if you can&#039;t really explain it, or defend it in an argument. Even if you never bother to update your knowledge or check your facts. I mean, you watch The Daily Show! Isn&#039;t that enough?!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I respect their political beliefs &#8230; if conservatives could make their arguments on the basis of shared values and beliefs, rather than trying to impose religious dogma on their fellow&#8221;</p>
<p>As a subversive you&#8217;re quite poor. You can&#8217;t even hold a straight face through three sentences.</p>
<p>Sir, I could debate circles around you. Any topic, any issue. You would be crying and begging for mercy &#8211; or, like most statists do, probably just resort to ad hominem attacks and screaming.</p>
<p>This is why your type don&#8217;t like talking with Conservatives. It has nothing to do with &#8216;religious dogma&#8217; &#8211; which is a hilarious non-issue; when was the last time someone invoked &#8216;religious dogma&#8217; to rail against Obama&#8217;s massive deficit spending, takeover of private industry, and attempt to take over health care? </p>
<p>&#8220;It seems like conservatives have a bit of a persecution complex that isn’t really justified by recent history&#8221;</p>
<p>Not at all. We realize that the vast majority of America is at odds with the MSM, the entertainment industry, and the academic crowds &#8211; all of whom are centered in big cities. We know from polling that the vast majority of this country is Conservative. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t complain about persecution from real Americans. Just from the trendy, left-wing, tired, empty-headed, hateful people with whom we have to associate. The &#8216;entitled&#8217; crowd who think the universities, big cities, movies, television, newspapers, magazines, and so on are their property. </p>
<p>The biggest indicator of this schism was the meteoric rise of Fox News. Which is why you lefties hate it so much: as with all things, you think you DESERVE complete control of all forms of communication, because everything you say is perfect. Even if you can&#8217;t really explain it, or defend it in an argument. Even if you never bother to update your knowledge or check your facts. I mean, you watch The Daily Show! Isn&#8217;t that enough?!?</p>
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		<title>By: Strawman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strawman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But, IMHO, lefties just feel more of a need to SAY SOMETHING than most righties do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No. Nuhah. Full out wrong. What lefties feel the need to do is morally/intellectually pose. They&#039;re vain, and want to show the world how smart and sensitive they are. So they plaster their carbon spewing machines with vapid non sequiturs about saving the planet. Cuz that&#039;s what smart people do. 

Wingnut rednecks, OTOH, are too dumb and selfish to tell the world how dumb and selfish they are. Because that would be a waste of a bumper sticker. You can buy a beer for what that bumper sticker costs. Why try to show everyone how dumb and selfish you are, when you can have a beer?

Make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But, IMHO, lefties just feel more of a need to SAY SOMETHING than most righties do.</p></blockquote>
<p>No. Nuhah. Full out wrong. What lefties feel the need to do is morally/intellectually pose. They&#8217;re vain, and want to show the world how smart and sensitive they are. So they plaster their carbon spewing machines with vapid non sequiturs about saving the planet. Cuz that&#8217;s what smart people do. </p>
<p>Wingnut rednecks, OTOH, are too dumb and selfish to tell the world how dumb and selfish they are. Because that would be a waste of a bumper sticker. You can buy a beer for what that bumper sticker costs. Why try to show everyone how dumb and selfish you are, when you can have a beer?</p>
<p>Make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: canuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never have a problem...I merely remind them that it is politically incorrect to refer to any kid as being brain damaged, gorked, retarded, etc...so we merely lump them all together as &quot;Democrats&quot; and everyone in sight knows exactly what is being said...except of course the Democrats that are so illogical and spoon fed to understand.

They all run from association with Nancy Pelosi, Chucky Dirtbag Schumer or Rangel, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Ted Kennedy, Little Dick Durbin, Sleazy Murtha, Stupid Barbara Boxer...they only want to discuss some generic perfect and honest leftist, but none cannot name one.

I can&#039;t help them there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never have a problem&#8230;I merely remind them that it is politically incorrect to refer to any kid as being brain damaged, gorked, retarded, etc&#8230;so we merely lump them all together as &#8220;Democrats&#8221; and everyone in sight knows exactly what is being said&#8230;except of course the Democrats that are so illogical and spoon fed to understand.</p>
<p>They all run from association with Nancy Pelosi, Chucky Dirtbag Schumer or Rangel, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Ted Kennedy, Little Dick Durbin, Sleazy Murtha, Stupid Barbara Boxer&#8230;they only want to discuss some generic perfect and honest leftist, but none cannot name one.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help them there.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter the Bubblehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter the Bubblehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>28. Common Sense wrote:
Even scarier is that my sister-in-law and her daughter are teachers.

Peter writes: Of COURSE they are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>28. Common Sense wrote:<br />
Even scarier is that my sister-in-law and her daughter are teachers.</p>
<p>Peter writes: Of COURSE they are!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter the Bubblehead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter the Bubblehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Blotto @ #24:
Hey, Blotto.  ET2/ss myself.
I&#039;m amazed at how many fellow bubbleheads show up on PJM.  Actually, when I consider our shared experiences, perhaps I shouldn&#039;t be so amazed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Blotto @ #24:<br />
Hey, Blotto.  ET2/ss myself.<br />
I&#8217;m amazed at how many fellow bubbleheads show up on PJM.  Actually, when I consider our shared experiences, perhaps I shouldn&#8217;t be so amazed.</p>
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		<title>By: CJinMadison</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJinMadison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh... David S.  You&#039;re a good solid liberal.  You can sleep well tonight.

I&#039;ll simply challenge one of your comments:  You say that you are more concerned with right-wing indoctrination than with left-wing indoctrination.

Where, exactly, do you observe this right-wing indoctrination occurring?  If you are going to try to persuade me that there is more right-wing indoctrination in the public school and universities, then I call you a scoundrel and a liar.  You simply must provide proof and documentation... reports (not anecdotes) and sources.  To me, &quot;liberalism in academia&quot; is more of a no-brainer than &quot;global warming&quot; or &quot;hiring quotas are necessary&quot;.

So... assuming that you were referring to some other venue for all of this pernicious right-wing indoctrination, again, I have to ask &quot;where?&quot;  Please, oh please, tell me that you are concerned about all the right-wing indoctrination that occurs in all the churches in America.  Please, tell me that is your big concern.

If so, then I dance around your figurative grave: public schools are funded by (say it with me) public money.  Churches, on the other hand, are private institutions.  I can choose to support a church, or have my kids indoctrinated by a church.  I, however, cannot choose my schools.  Nor, can I choose to expose my kid to the indoctrinations of the classroom.

And, Bub.  One bumper sticker in the airport parking lot does not a craze make.  There are plenty of extremers, on both ends of the spectrum.  But, the original post, which instigated your response... the original post suggested that, percentage-wise, there are more left-wing bumper stickers than there are right-wing bumper stickers.  This, too, I take as a neutral fact.  (That is to say, if it&#039;s true, there&#039;s nothing wrong with the observation.)  But, IMHO, lefties just feel more of a need to SAY SOMETHING than most righties do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh&#8230; David S.  You&#8217;re a good solid liberal.  You can sleep well tonight.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll simply challenge one of your comments:  You say that you are more concerned with right-wing indoctrination than with left-wing indoctrination.</p>
<p>Where, exactly, do you observe this right-wing indoctrination occurring?  If you are going to try to persuade me that there is more right-wing indoctrination in the public school and universities, then I call you a scoundrel and a liar.  You simply must provide proof and documentation&#8230; reports (not anecdotes) and sources.  To me, &#8220;liberalism in academia&#8221; is more of a no-brainer than &#8220;global warming&#8221; or &#8220;hiring quotas are necessary&#8221;.</p>
<p>So&#8230; assuming that you were referring to some other venue for all of this pernicious right-wing indoctrination, again, I have to ask &#8220;where?&#8221;  Please, oh please, tell me that you are concerned about all the right-wing indoctrination that occurs in all the churches in America.  Please, tell me that is your big concern.</p>
<p>If so, then I dance around your figurative grave: public schools are funded by (say it with me) public money.  Churches, on the other hand, are private institutions.  I can choose to support a church, or have my kids indoctrinated by a church.  I, however, cannot choose my schools.  Nor, can I choose to expose my kid to the indoctrinations of the classroom.</p>
<p>And, Bub.  One bumper sticker in the airport parking lot does not a craze make.  There are plenty of extremers, on both ends of the spectrum.  But, the original post, which instigated your response&#8230; the original post suggested that, percentage-wise, there are more left-wing bumper stickers than there are right-wing bumper stickers.  This, too, I take as a neutral fact.  (That is to say, if it&#8217;s true, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with the observation.)  But, IMHO, lefties just feel more of a need to SAY SOMETHING than most righties do.</p>
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		<title>By: johnt</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul in MI, only one sentence, that&#039;s it?  I bet you had no trouble with most of the other sentences and the points therein.
But I&#039;m a helpful kind of guy so just in case your confusion, fifteen times over, is not feigned let me unravel the puzzle for you.
 The &quot;self conscious&quot; part of it is my expressed supposition that you know damn well that there are other very real and substantive issues that deserve criticism, that there is a tad or so of old fashioned bulls--t in your F-22 only comment.
It is possible that you have been in a coma for six months and have missed a lot of the action.  If so I wish you a speedy recovery.  If not we are back to the bulls--t option.

I would reserve the word &quot;pathetic&quot; for a President and his more zealous supporters who are so thin skinned as to take after the very few real critics of his grotesque policies when in fact the vast bulk of the media has been whoring a plenty for this obnoxious creature.

Much more could be said of pathos, in particular of those who make weak attempts at comparisons where none exist. But I went into that already.

Good luck in your reading, this one you should ba able to handle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul in MI, only one sentence, that&#8217;s it?  I bet you had no trouble with most of the other sentences and the points therein.<br />
But I&#8217;m a helpful kind of guy so just in case your confusion, fifteen times over, is not feigned let me unravel the puzzle for you.<br />
 The &#8220;self conscious&#8221; part of it is my expressed supposition that you know damn well that there are other very real and substantive issues that deserve criticism, that there is a tad or so of old fashioned bulls&#8211;t in your F-22 only comment.<br />
It is possible that you have been in a coma for six months and have missed a lot of the action.  If so I wish you a speedy recovery.  If not we are back to the bulls&#8211;t option.</p>
<p>I would reserve the word &#8220;pathetic&#8221; for a President and his more zealous supporters who are so thin skinned as to take after the very few real critics of his grotesque policies when in fact the vast bulk of the media has been whoring a plenty for this obnoxious creature.</p>
<p>Much more could be said of pathos, in particular of those who make weak attempts at comparisons where none exist. But I went into that already.</p>
<p>Good luck in your reading, this one you should ba able to handle.</p>
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		<title>By: Strawman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Strawman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If conservatives could make their arguments on the basis of shared values and beliefs, rather than trying to impose religious dogma on their fellows, there would be much more calm and rational discourse&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Spoken just like Alan Dershowitz. Nothing matters except my fantasies of bending society through the force of government, and I&#039;ll listen to your ideas, as long as mine rule. That&#039;s essentially what that red herring boils down to; you can have any political views as long as they&#039;re flaming left-wing. That&#039;s what &quot;shared values&quot; is code for. 

This petulance is a ruse. This is just plain dishonest to imply that it&#039;s legitimate to have preconditions for civility. They&#039;re just trying to hide from their responsibility to be honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If conservatives could make their arguments on the basis of shared values and beliefs, rather than trying to impose religious dogma on their fellows, there would be much more calm and rational discourse</p></blockquote>
<p>Spoken just like Alan Dershowitz. Nothing matters except my fantasies of bending society through the force of government, and I&#8217;ll listen to your ideas, as long as mine rule. That&#8217;s essentially what that red herring boils down to; you can have any political views as long as they&#8217;re flaming left-wing. That&#8217;s what &#8220;shared values&#8221; is code for. </p>
<p>This petulance is a ruse. This is just plain dishonest to imply that it&#8217;s legitimate to have preconditions for civility. They&#8217;re just trying to hide from their responsibility to be honest.</p>
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