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Right on, Mr. Voigt. There are no good alternatives. The only way is to rise up – within the rule of law, peacefully, non-violently – and fight against what is in fact a bloodless coup against the American people, their cherished institutions and way of life. The problem is our opposition will use its elected power, the media, ridicule and in some instances intimidation and violence to achieve its aims.
I believe that WE THE PEOPLE will gain the ultimate victory, but it will come at a price. A lot of damage can be done to us between now and November. The elected officials on our side must have the political will to reject, reverse and rescind what this “regime” have wrought upon us in the past 14 months. From there, we must go from victory to victory and defund and dismantle as much of the federal government as possible.
Take back the schools, take back the government and restore the Republic. G-d help us all.
MY Sacred Pipe is Loaded and ready to go, give me your prayers–they will go to the Creator. The same one who stopped the arrogant murderers/theives, and gave US a piece of our land. SHE came ,gave us the Sacred Pipe, SHE does not have a problem teaching arrogant men about respect. HER story speaks for itself, She is a way of LIFE for the LAKOTA WARRIORS____waterbrother
Well said, thanks for reprinting it. I nearly choked on my breakfast this morning when I opened Drudge and saw Obama bowing to the Chinese. Good thing I knew it was in his “play book” so I was not surprised, just outraged. Again. Can someone please add “how to greet a foreign dignitary” as a running loop on the ‘prompter so the Prez can stop embarrassing himself? Maybe Delia is right, perhaps that is Urkel in the White House.
Don’t be fooled.
By bowing to Hu, Obama is covering himself, making bowing now seem to be just an over-courteous bad habit, rather than what it truly was, and is, in the case of his craven bowing down low before Shah Abdullah bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia — the action of a subject and slave, in obeisance to his master.
Absolutely on the mark Carl. Obambi caught so much flak by bowing to his Mohammedan MASTER so he is trying to deflect by BOWING to any tin pot despot he can trying to give the impression that that is what he naturally does.
However he does have some principles he absolutely draws the line at bowing to the British Queen, the French President and in fact the Leaders any of America’s ALLIES at all and to Israels Nettanyahu he was downright RUDE and positively threatening. I will be extremely interested to see what the BUFFOON does if by some chance he ever meets the Pope.
But anyway now we have th measure of the man and what we see is not pleasant at all is it.
Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
This is a good letter, but it doesn’t add much to what this forum already knows and discusses on a daily basis.
A letter from a well known personality should advance the debate a little, offer a new angle; otherwise, it will be thought of as another run-of-the-mill rant.
Thank you Mr. Voight, for so eloquently expressing the sentiments of patriotic Americans everywhere.
Dear Dr. Bones,
We had better confine ourselves to the formal and literary aspects of this neospecimen. Decorum and maturity combine to prevent the decent political adult from pretending to respond in the name of the Holyhomelanders™ collectively. Why, even your rank-and-file kiddie selfservative might conceivably shrink from claimin’ that, over an’ above merely *lookin’* like America obviously oughtta look, she can speak for America as well!
Aspect (1) is that this nifty ploy will not bear much repetition. Should everybody in Foxcuckooland starts doin’ it, decorum and maturity are bound to reconsider our position _pronto_.
(2) Foxcuckooland subjects have been known to make ugly noises when, from time to time, various liberal and “Democrat party” fiends of celebrity have played what certainly appears to be the same game that Neocomrade J. Voight is playin’ here.
No doubt the _primâ facie_ discrepancy can be resolved by some application of the late Buckley Minor’s ever-immortal apophthegm _Quod licet Jovi, non licet bovi_. Yet I fear I cannot guess exactly what that application is and how it works. Possibly when there are more responses from the peanut-gallery peanuts, one of them will reveal why Neocomrade J. Voight cannot ever be sincerely mistaken for Bessie the Cow[*]. Or possibly not.
(3) Neocomrade J. Voight comes bearin’ a passport photograph, which does kinda make sense. Those of ’em at Rio Limbaugh who are *totally* prose-challenged can go straight to the movin’ picture show and not have to worry their heads about the chickentracks. Professor MacL@@han has indeed much to answer for!
And now, that’s enough of that.
I wish you, sir,
Healthy days.
___
[*] http://tinyurl.com/yfc44s5
Ummmm, OK then. Fellow PJMers, allow me to translate, as I speak “insanity” as a third language:
“Jarble, jarble, jarble, bad metaphor, mumble, mumble, mumble, inappropriate simile, stutter, stutter, stutter, half-baked analogy, static, static, static, incoherent use of alliteration….”
Now move along people, nothing to read here…
Time for your meds, Mister President.
Jon Voight talks about moronic moonbats and then one turns up here on PJM just to prove his point.
As typical of his kind and anticipated, the self-extinguishing JHM descends into ad hominem when unable to cogently argue based upon fact. What he perceives as clever is — to one capable of thought beyond the superficial — drivel.
Poor JHM. He’s suffering from some very serious PTSD, which is why he’s curled up on his cell bunk, rocking back and forth and muttering total caca. What intrigues me is how he managed to sneak in the batting helmet covered in bumper stickers that he’s wearing. How’d he get that passed the guards? I mean, just how big is this man’s rectum?
When faced with cogently argued opposition, the disordered personality disintegrates and begins to spout nonsequiturs and nonsense–as JHM shows us here in a textbook demonstration.
Is it you, Mr. McCloskey?
Please fold your hands in your lap. Now push your chair back and step away from your computer by the window. Remember, she cannot see you there. Turn around and walk over to your night table. Open the organizer. Concentrate. Take 2 of the round blue ones and one of the oblong white ones from the upper left compartment. Swallow them and sit down in the stuffed pink chair on your right. Think about that meadow in Morrisville. It is a peaceful place.
I am on my way.
(sent from Dr. Chesterton’s Blackberry)
Please let us quit promoting the lie that America is a democracy. It is NOT!! A democracy is a form of government where mob rule is in place, where 51% of the people can take away the rights of the remaing 49% by a simple majority vote. This form of government was dispised by the founding fathers of this nations as a majority of the people could too easily be persuaded by con men, telling lies and half truths, to pass unwise and tyranical laws taking away all your rights, and that is exactly why those in our government who want to destroy this country to set up a global New World Order keep repeating this lie.
America is a Democratic Republic with a constitution (rule of law) which guaranties certain rights to the people and limits what each of the different branches – legislative, judical, and executive – can do. It spells out exactly what powers each of these 3 branches have, then states that those powers not expressly given to these 3 branches belong to we the people and the individual states not to the Federal Government. Thus any bill passed and signed into law that falls outside of those things specifically given to the Federal Government are UNCONSTITUTIONAL as an act of the legislature cannot superceed the constitution. If the people want to change the constitution it must be done by amending the constitution and can not be done by a legislative act of congress. The constitution spells out the the necessary steps to ammend the constitution.
Paul
Thank you for bringing this up. You beat me to it! I scour blogs and forums looking for this erroneous idea specifically in an effort to ensure that people know what we “are” and what we are “not” as a Nation. Mr. Voight has the right intentions and he should be applauded for his efforts. However, we need to work together to stamp out these incorrect ideas so that we can bring our Federal System back into alignment.
In Vindiciam Libertatis!
JOHN VOIGT IS THE MOST UNDERRATED ACTOR FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS. HE IS ALSO A GREAT AMERICAN PATRIOT OF STAR QUALITY.
TO TALK STRAIGHT AS HE DOES MIGHT ACCOUNT FOR A LESSER AMOUNT OF GOOD PARTS IN HOLLYWOOD.
Go away NORMAL GUY you have already been outed as a pathetic TROLL.
He also has a bad cheap keyboard I am not sure which is worse his bad grammar or his misspellings which is missing in this post, usually he butchers words with misspells!
Ironic
A true tea party movement would not start with the Puppet ( President Obama ) but with the puppet master ( Banking System ).
Until the United States takes back control of its currency from European Banking Families, nothing will ever get better. The US will continue along its slow downward spiral, best intentions notwithstanding.
All these deficits and massive debt structure trace back to the United States relinquishing control of its banks to Europe and accepting credit lines in return, using US taxpayers as collateral for the loans.
If the Tea party is serious, Congress must be held accountable and bring the US dollar back to Gold Convertibility. It is only since this event that the US Economy has been slowly collapsing.
Unfortunately, economic illiteracy and paranoia are not only found on the left side of the political spectrum.
Thank you Sir.
We do appreciate the fact that you COULD live comfortably, very far from all the problems, and instead you join the fight to defend Freedom and the Republic and you use your fame to promote the truth. A true American Patriot. God bless you.
PS I watched Huckabee answering you “I’m sure that Obama doesn’t mean any evil against America”. He doesn’t understand what is happening here.
It’s a whole administration of radicals, they DO have plans for America, and those plans aim at making America WEAKER.
I saw the Huckabee show with Jon Voight and I almost spilled my drink when he said that Obama doesn’t intentionally have an agenda against the United States. Huckabee is right on in some regards, but his defence of Obama in this issue in naive and dillusional.
Mr Voigt: Thank you for having the courage to stand up and provide leadership. It’s greatly appreciated.
Alex is right, its the ruling elite and their quest for world domination that is destroying this country. If they can remove the middle class in this country and make everyone so poor that we can’t revolt, we’ll be easier to control when they destroy our constitution and form a one world government.
Really? A quest for world domination? This isn’t Austin Powers.
America today is not what the Founding Fathers intended.
The individual becomes less relevant every day.
The small business world shrinks every year.
The line between government and corporations becomes thinner every year.
We’re bleeding out. Slowly but surely.
I don’t get it. Obama hasn’t done anything Marxist. Has Obama made private property illegal? No. Has he established communal farms in place of private ones? No. You can’t throw around the word “Marxist ” so easily.
And the idea that “Oh, gee, John Voigt said it! He can’t be wrong!” doesn’t work, because that would mean the opposite is also true, and Sean Penn also can’t be wrong (note: I sincerely apologize for using “Sean Penn” and “can’t be wrong” in the same sentence). Just because he’s an actor doesn’t mean that his opinion is valid.
I’m starting to think that conservatives are bitter that they lost the health care battle. Or they have a problem with a black guy being president.
One true characteristic of the left is that they find it impossible to believe that anyone opposes them for good reasons.
Aha! But the fact that you say that means you find it impossible to believe that anyone opposes YOU for good reason! Check and mate.
But race always seems to arise when the left tries to degrade conservatives. Me thinks thou dost protest too much.
And, don’t forget, they PROJECT.
…Another characteristic of the left is that they think this is all a game.
A game where they win by default because they brought their rhrtorical Babylonian pen-knives to a Constitutional gun fight.
Racism again?? *yawn*
“Marxist” isnt a useful term, since Marx himself was only an eccentric hegelian/aristotelian and Obama doesnt believe literally in Marx writings.
But I think u can argue that somebody who was in favour of a single payer healthcare system for many years and believes that profit itself is the biggest problem in the current healthcare system is indeed a european-style socialist.
Adrian:
I concur with Elize here. In addition, I regret that many Obama opponents make themselves easy targets for articulate liberals with use of over-the-top language. Nevertheless, their anger is justified. One thing I think is a problem in the debate about Obama’s belief system is that we’re not keeping the discussion within the American context. Within the context of what a majority of modern Americans expect as far as our governance goes, Obama’s behavior and policies are alarming. He doesn’t have to be a “Marxist” or a European-style socialist, or Hugo Chavez for his policies to be egregious by American standards and expectations. Adrian, you, in effect, argue that “he’s not that bad,” by dismissing the alarmism, but beneath the alarmist rhetoric is a genuine kernel of truth: Obama is violating the most basic tenets of the American system of governance. He’s not the first one to do so, but rather, he’s ratcheting up and speeding up the process of America’s governing class’s drift away from Constitutional government. Keep in mind, Adrian, that America’s founders were also quick to complain about transgressions that most people of the 18th-century western world would have found to be “no big deal.” Had those 18th-century Tea Partiers not been so quickly and easily offended and alarmed about a “mere trifle of a Tea Tax,” or an “innocuous” Stamp Act, or a “Boston Massacre” that wasn’t particularly bloody or major, then we today would only be the southernmost part of Canada.
Amazing how fast you got to the meat of your argument – that we’re all racists. You have a marvelous economy of thought and are kind in not making us wade through the standard liberal dialectic. Unfortunately, you are mistaken in your analysis. We don’t hate President Obama because he’s black. We just hate people named Adrian.
Your statements are so simplified..perhaps you should get more informed on Marxism, socialism and progressiveness. Find out what they are..what they entail..there is much more to it than you over simplistic statements.
I do not want a European style government. I don’t hate you Adrian, I think you are not fully informed, you make out of left field” remarks, but I don’t hate you,yet.
I also believe Obama has made it difficult for a truly qualified black person to hold the presidency for a long time to come. That’s not racism, it’s truth. It would not matter to most of us what color he is…after all…he’s also 1/2 white..white…
Maybe not marxism. Lets try this:
So-cial-ism
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods (Think banks, GM, Chrysler, etc.)
2 : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done (Think transfer of wealth I.E. obamacare, etc.)
Its undeniable.
Thanks for providing a definition, which, I believe exonerates Obama from the socialist label. He doesn’t actually want to eliminate private property. Noone that has witnessed 20th century history with even a partially open mind seeks that. Instead, he is in favor of nominal private ownership with actual government control. That is, the property will still be owned by individuals and groups of individuals, but that ownership will be regulated by arbitrary and capricious law and executive edict such that it will serve political ends at the convenience of the political elites. By some early definitions, this is “fascism”, although that phrase has too many nationalistic connotations to be useful today.
I prefer “statist” as opposed to “individualist”.
Adrian, your knowledge of Marxism is lacking. Communal farms aren’t Marxist, they are a Leninist heresy.
P.S. Thanks for self-identifying as a rube.
First of all Obama is not just a BLACKMAN, he’s half WHITE, why is it that the left wants to use the fact he is BLACK to say that, that is why whites don’t like him. I have heard that he is a fine man and intelligent, my problem is his policies, ideaology and radicals that he is positioning around himself. I think that it is great that we put a blackman in the White House. President Obama needs to start really listening to the people and not just push his own agenda down Our throats like it or not. Vote on bills that they have read in their entirety and then vote, don’t vote and then read the bill. Congress is now finding that the Health Care Bill applies to them too and their not very happy about it, serves them right for pushing it through. Our fine men and women in the political arena have openly said they don’t care about the Constitution, then why are they where they are?? Our Constitution was meant to limit government and give us a compass to lead by. This country is going the wrong way, not what I grew up with. Stop the hate talk because the President is Black and get to the business of helping get this country back on track. WE DO NOT have to be Europe, remember why our forefathers left?? read your history or we WILL g back to that here n the USA.
***are bitter over losing the health care battle (grammar!)
Adrian the fact that you chose to play the RACE CARD in your FIRST post exposes you for exactly what you are a disgusting RACE HUCKSTER just like the Black Congressmen and deluded moonbat of the highest order.
Its not his PIGMENTATION we hate its his POLICIES
Its not because he is BLACK (well half Arab/Black and half white) its because he is RED.
And its because he is a LYING DOCUMENT HIDING MOHAMMEDAN BOGUS POTUS.
Bravo, John Voight!
Please Folks,
don’t feed the troll.
Keep thanking Mr. Voigt for all he does, forget the little MUSLIM-MARXIST militants.
Hi, I have respect for Jon Voight and I have respect for Pajamas Media but there are some really odd things going on in the Tea Party movement, in that Debra Medina presents herself as conservative traditionalist and yet the Facebook page
Debra Medina
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Debra-Medina/95669721909?ref=ts
featherbeds persons who subscribe to this sort of stuff,
” If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against the United States in a few days. Permanently. I would first apologize — very publicly and very sincerely — to all the widows and the orphans, the impoverished and the tortured, and all the many millions of other victims of American imperialism. I would then announce that America’s global interventions — including the awful bombings — have come to an end. And I would inform Israel that it is no longer the 51st state of the union but – oddly enough – a foreign country. I would then reduce the military budget by at least 90% and use the savings to pay reparations to the victims and repair the damage from the many American bombings and invasions. There would be more than enough money. Do you know what one year of the US military budget is equal to? One year. It’s equal to more than $20,000 per hour for every hour since Jesus Christ was born. That’s what I’d do on my first three days in the White House. On the fourth day, I’d be assassinated. ”
William Blum
and hounds one,if one subscribes to a centrist or right of center conservative position, somewhat on the lines of President Reagan or Senator Barry Goldwater and if they can’t beat you in argument on the issues, a Dr Hannibal Lecter type character attempts to try to tear you apart psychologically and if that doesn’t work, just coincidentally one gets death threats via Facebook private mail. And then they start a campaign to have you suspended / permabanned from Facebook. Conveniently for these characters, when folks get suspended from Facebook all their critical postings of that filthy Facebook page disappear from that filthy Facebook page.
Medina was outed as something quite different from most of the tea party types when she fell in with the 9/11 truthers.
There are some fringe anarchists hanging on the edges of some tea party gatherings (probably attracted by the anti big government side of the issues) but usually they don’t last very long. There are also many of all ilks who are latching on and trying to co-opt the message. See the latest pledge of attack by the far left. These things will shake out IF and ONLY IF the media allows it. Let us keep standing strong, holding to our most simple principles of a small, less intrusive government and lower government spending and we will prevail.
I hear what you are saying but thanks to these characters I got a permaban on Facebook for my account and saw about thirty Facebook groups I was admin on go down the toilet and I haven’t seen anything coming from within the Tea Party movement to distance themselves from Medina.
I hear what you are saying but thanks to these characters I got my Facebook account permabanned and I saw about thirty Facebook groups I was admin on go down the toilet. And I did not see any of the Tea Party Facebook pages criticizing Debra Medina over her Facebook page, so I am not exactly enamored with these folks at the moment.
Certain members of Debra Medina’s Facebook page are constantly attacking and taunting others with an opposing view.
Jon Voight speaks for people in the real world trying to raise a family and better themselves. He sees it changing and it is not taking away your personal property–yet. But as of a few weeks ago you will be less able to enjoy the fruits or your labor. It has nothing to do with health care or ethnicity. But you ought to try reading the Patient Protection or whatever nice name they put on the health care legislation. It is a mess.
I like the man, and share his views, but the letter is a little wild.
Mr. Voight:
Where are you registered to vote?
Would you care to run for office?
jej
We see hundreds of hollywood and rock.n.roll types out there for liberals all over the place. Its good to see one out there (besides charlton heston all the time doin the gun speeches) standing up for the right wing, though I am not sure what exactly Jon was really standing up for and/or against. I remember John Wayne, very sincere,…out there doing the same many years ago. I think it is a good thing that hollywood have some representatives from both sides of the spectrum. Good Luck to Mr. Voight !
I’m a Jon Voight fan and an even bigger fan of his politics. I wonder if people realize that he has crashed his career by coming out as a political Conservative. It’s sad, but then heroes like Jon Voight usually are. We hardly deserve them.
The world is going through a lot of stuff right now and it will probably get worse. But it has to. We the people need to be in a state that we will accept a man who can bring order out of the ensuing disorder. It is okay cause its going by the book.
Keith
Dear Mr. Hollywood Elite;
I think you said this better back in 1969 as Joe Buck, “Whoopee-tee-yi-yo. Git along little doggies. It’s your misfortune and none of my own.”
@JHM… Do you really believe that your drivel actually “means something”? You do sound like someone who has gone off their medication.
MarkTheGreat says:
Unfortunately, economic illiteracy and paranoia are not only found on the left side of the political spectrum.
——————————————
Equally unforetunately , financial complacency and ignorance seem to abound even after a serious failure of our countries financial system.
Why should the united states should pay interest to the federal reserve for the currency and the book entries that the federal reserve creates ?
Why shouldn’t the treasury print notes that say U.S. treasury instead of federal reserve ? The treasury actually used to print such notes back before Lyndon Johnson became president. Why did they stop ?
How much political power do you think a private corporation would have if it could write as many checks as it wanted to and never settle it’s checks because, by law, the checks themselves could be used to settle any and all debts ? How long would it take such a corporation to endow chairs of economics at major universities and populate them with apologists for that corporation ? How long before that corporation owned a majority of the countries senators and representatives ?
Amen!
I wish I could write a letter back or better yet, look him in the eyes, and talk to him quietly.
It’s very sad the man sounds like he has lost his mind. And I think most Americans would think he’s far too irrational for words.
I hadn’t heard that Mr. Voight had completely lost his mind. How very sad for his family. Please don’t encourage him it will only make his madness worse.
First sensible comment I’ve read on this thread so far.
@Steve Bonser: Xenophobia is a terrible thing, isn’t it? It can take normally sane and innocuous people and turn them into raving lunatics. Very sad.
You always hear actors talking about other actors being “brave” in picking and choosing their film projects and the character choices they make. Nonsense! There’s nothing brave about pretending to be someones else for a seven figure salary. Conversely, an iconic, Oscar winning actor like Jon Voight is in fact brave! Speaking out in a town where he’s out numbered a hundred to one. All for the sake of defending true core American principles and values!
14. Adrian wrote, “I don’t get it. Obama hasn’t done anything Marxist. Has Obama made private property illegal? No. Has he established communal farms in place of private ones? No. You can’t throw around the word “Marxist ” so easily.And the idea that “Oh, gee, John Voigt said it! He can’t be wrong!” doesn’t work, because that would mean the opposite is also true, and Sean Penn also can’t be wrong (note: I sincerely apologize for using “Sean Penn” and “can’t be wrong” in the same sentence). Just because he’s an actor doesn’t mean that his opinion is valid.I’m starting to think that conservatives are bitter that they lost the health care battle. Or they have a problem with a black guy being president.”
Your post is beyond foolish. Obama hasn’t done anything Marxist? A growing mountain of evidence, part circumstantial and part empirical, refutes your claim. Obama has nationalized GM and Chrysler, significant portions of the banking and financial services industry, and now healthcare. If not Marxist, that is certainly Socialist in the Fabian model aka Britain, and socialism is derived in part from Marxism. Even more damning are Obama’s friends and political appointees, who wear their Che Guivara T-shirts, and talk openly about being influenced by Mao. If Mao isn’t Marxist, please tell me who is? Your last sentence is the kicker. I have long wanted a black man (or woman) who shares my values to be elected President, and number among the current figures with which I am impressed LCOL Allen West, and economists Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams. Obama’s skin color means nothing to me pro- or con. I object to the man on the basis of his policies, ideology, and apparent amorality. Or, in your version of these United States, aren’t we allowed to object on those bases any longer? Hurl bogus charges of “racism” at me all you want, that charge does not carry nearly the effect it once did. leftists resort to name-calling and labeling the moment they are put on the defensive rhetorically or politically. Well, we the people are wise to that tactic, so go ahead and use it; it only discredits you and your cause.
Regarding Jon Voight, he is an American citizen, not only an enormously successful and respected actor, and is excercising his rights to free speech. Got a problem with that? Hope you say “no,” because you leftists never seem to have a problem with “progressive” celebrities who are to be found everywhere in the media these days, commmenting on this-or-that issue, c.f. Bruce Springsteen, Barbara Streisand, Rosie O’Donnell, et al., even though most of them haven’t clue on the issues about which they are speaking. Voight at least has done some homework, and knows whereof he speaks.
One more time – free speech is a two way avenue.
He’s free to speak.
Others are free to say he sounds like a Sean Penn rant in reverse, only worse.
I couldn’t stand his rants, either. Talented people can say inane and insane things.
As an outsider looking at America it is easy to see that this country is corrupt to the core. If you guys want peace and respect then start by cleaning out the CIA FBI Dept of Defence and Wall street. Stop worshiping the buck and start by pulling your nose out of other countries. Leave the OIL alone. Look after each other not your pockets.
Mr. J. Voight, thank you for the courage to speak out for the American people.
Anyone else remember Jon Voight’s character on “24″ last year? Typecasting, eh?
Jon has every right to speak… and rant, and he is an antidote to Sean Penn, but not to Tom Hanks, who despite some shots he has taken here, is way ahead of both of them in common sense. After all the blather about “Pacific,” anyone who is watching it can tell you that it is damned good…except my wife, who says all that killing is all the same.
Gee Terry, in what non-corrupt country do you reside? I can’t wait for your reply.
John,
Run for office.
Joe
Whatever the state of the political center and the political left, Pajama Media illustrates that the right has lost its moorings.
What is the matter with self-described “right wingers”? “Pete” is a good example of how little critical thinking and intelligence is involved in the right wing endless pity party.
“Pete” types (you cannot call sch assertions ‘writing’ nor ‘thinking’):
“A growing mountain of evidence, part circumstantial and part empirical, refutes your claim. Obama has nationalized GM and Chrysler, significant portions of the banking and financial services industry, and now healthcare. ”
Neither Chrsler, GM, nor ANY portion of “the banking and financial services industry” have been “nationalized”?
And, “Pete” brilliantly sticks “and now healthcare” in a grammatically-meaningless fashion at the end of his untrue rant, presumably to show that “healthcare” has now been “nationalized”?
NONE of these assertions by “Pete” are true. N-O-N-E. Pajamas Media is a fact-free zone.
This deplorable level of discourse ought to concern everyone here, because you believe and traffic in lies. I assume “Pete” covers himself as far as being a right winger goes by saying “the growing mountain of evidence” is “part circumstantial and part empirical”.
No part of GM, Chrysler, Health Care, nor the banks have been “nationalized”. Health Care related stocks of private companies have let a market buy because there are direct capitalism-based opportunities in bringing Health Care to everybody. And banks and the Auto companies are 100% privately owned.
All you people are good for is being angry, enriching fools like Beck, and complaining that Obama has taken away all your freedoms, even though NOTHING has changed since Obama became president.
You are sad and pathetic in your despair and it is impossible to believe how much attention sore losers get just because they are used to the GOP ruling everything.
#35 TERRY,
As an outsider, you haven’t the right to comment….I suspect you live in some 3rd world republic with far more governmental corruption than the U.S. Strangely, much of the world would be happy to emigrate to my beloved country. Thankfully, you (and your ilk) can remain in yours.
R.H.
Why is it that the opposition to Barack Hussein Obama is now the majority rule and there has not been a large group effort to throw the rascal out.
Obama is not American. Read all about it: http://politickamerica.com/.
Has everyone become dumbfounded. Wake up and kick Obama out!
If President Obama was not a citizen don’t you think that the Republicans would have exposed that he was not an American Citizen before he became President? He has been President of the United States now for 15 months now and no one has proven he is not legal? His birth certificate was posted on the internet and has been validated as authentic. Give it up and live with the fact is that he is who he says he is, our President of the United States.
tomcj – you’re way off the mark.
It’s clear your definition of “nationalized” differs from reality. You, of all people, should know that whenever the Federal Government “bails out” or proffers “stimulus money” to private industry there are ALWAYS strings attached. Do you honestly believe that the Obama Administration expects nothing in return from the bailed out automakers? If so, then you, sir, are seriously deluded. Here’s an example: when the Federal Government doles out funds for interstate highway projects, the recipient state is beholden to the Fed in the form of speed limits allowed, what the funds can be used for, who gets the funding (i.e., contractors, etc.), not to mention standardized Federal highway infrastructure – even when those standards are subpar or minimal. The individual states surrendered those rights long ago. Taxes collected via fuel excise are funneled to the Federal level even though collected at the state and this leaves the several states at the beck & call of the Fed.
No where in the Constitution does the Fed have this right. The Federal Government also does not have the right to “nationalize” or force a national healthcare program on its citizens. And this is precisely what liberals have done, to wit, crammed a national healthcare program down our throats even though various reliable polls clearly showed that the great majority of Americans do NOT want it!!! Rasmussen and Zogby polls showed, at varying times, that anywhere from 62% to 69% of Americans reject national healthcare. That’s not even close. Yet your buddies in DC ignored untold millions of phone calls, e-mails, letters, and voter petitions!
How people (such as you) can be so blinded to the erosion of individual and state rights by an Adminstration bent on expanding the role of Federal government is beyond comprehension.
Don’t believe it? How about this example: hate crimes. There are laws on the books of several states and even at the Federal level that delineates the definition of hate. To what end? What is it supposed to accomplish? Aside from more control of what you and I think, it accomplishes nothing. No hate crime punishment can make anyone ‘get along’ or ‘not hate’ another human being. If anything it foments resentment against a prying government that has no business telling us we can’t hate. It also fosters resentment against the person toward whom the hate was directed. No one, especially not government, can make one person not hate another. Personal interaction or lack of it is the choice of the individual and not the role and purview of any governmental agency. Put another way: you can’t make me like or not hate you (or anyone else) if I don’t want to.
Our elected officials are seriously uninformed about the Constitution. In fact, Phil Hare (D-Illinois), said, when asked about the constitutionality of forcing millions of Americans to buy health insurance, “I don’t worry about the Constitution on this to be honest.” See: http://www.infowars.com/illinois-congressman-i-dont-worry-about-the-constitution
Wake up, tomcj. Nationalization is well on its way unless informed Americans fight back via protests, the voting booth, and letter writing campaigns.
ModernDayPublius:
Thank you! And to all the rest who are saying much the same thing on this forum: the People of the United States are being marched along the road of Nationalization and European-Style socialism. The rich and powerful will continue to be so, and more, and those who despise taking the advantage over others, who abstain from taking away the freedoms of others, will be powerless…
The bailout money was a loan. GM has already paid part of one loan. They still have another to pay off. Any bailout money are loans with stipulations as to when they are to be paid off in full. Nothing was given out gratis. The Recovery and Reinvestment Act is the same deal. The government helps get companies back to recovery and are paid back. New companies are given up-start money to get started and hiring people and further down the road the loan is paid back. There is no free rides so this money going out right now by the federal government is expected to be paid back.
“I’m a Jon Voight fan and an even bigger fan of his politics. I wonder if people realize that he has crashed his career by coming out as a political Conservative. It’s sad, but then heroes like Jon Voight usually are. We hardly deserve them.”
LOL. I think he ‘crashed’ his career by being a very poor actor who is notoriously difficult to work with. This is also a man whose own family have sought and obtained restraining orders against him.
This is your standard bearer?
Who’s your next champion, teabaggers? Ron Jeremy? Donald Duck?
amen to teabagger. bunch of ignormuses.
There used to be a commercial. It said, “if you want to get somebody’s attention, ‘whisper’.” Nowadays, I find if you want to get someone’s attention, you write not an email, but a letter, a la Jon Voight. Well done, Jon.
Might I just add that, like Pearl Harbor, previous to Obama’s election, there were warning signs just how diametrically opposed Obama’s political philosophy was to America. 53% of the voting public,though,ignored them. It’s time for 100% of Americans to heed them now.
Looking back for a moment (and I’m old enough to get a pretty good view) one could almost see an Obama coming. Winning the day with a beaming personality; decorating his speeches with words whose honest intent lives only in Neverland.
Putting the voting public to sleep on a bed of lies, Obama walked into the White House with the Alinsky playbook under his coat like a domestic terrorist might carry a bomb. Then they put the playbook into action.
P.T. Barnum couldn’t have done a better job.
Three months into his Presidency, though, with Barack’s approval numbers still sky high, people writing on the best conservative blogs, from PJM, to Hewitt’s Town Hall to Ms. Malkin’s stash of good stories, to Fran Porretto’s ER were sniffing out the skunk in the House. Predicting not just left wing political disaster, but disaster for the nation. Dr. Victor Hanson wrote some great quotes to this effect, but it’s too late in the evening to track them down. I still haven’t seen my taped version of “24.” Suffice to say, Victor Hanson’s two cents were worth every penny. And Hanson’s pennies are made of gold.
Still apathetic? No siree Bob. Today’s Americans have the mettle of Marines. Last time I looked, Barack’s cage was so rattled he’s come to call fellow Americans who happen to disagree with him politically, “sexual perverts.” Tea Baggers. Have you seen the 40 and 50 year old men and women at the Tea Parties? In your face, Obama. Americans are mad as hatters, and if I were Barack, his stoolies or anybody who smells Democratic, I’d be running for the hills. Either that or be retiring so quickly Saul Alinsky be spinning like an Olympic figure skater.
These Obamunists have run the national debt ragged. Tried to nationalize every industry they can get their paws on. Obama’s bowed to every two bit dictator he can clink glasses with overseas. And treated every friend of America like a long lost enemy. These same progressives who used to say that dissent was the highest form of patriotism now whine that dissenters are some form of seditious low life.
If Obama’s counting on apathy to return in 2012, he’s in for a huge surprise. Barack, you’re doing your best to try and put us in the worst financial bind imaginable. Trying to discredit and desecrate the first ten amendments. You nominated a 5’ 3” puppet for the Supreme Court. A summary injustice. You jammed through an ObamaCare bill that’s virtually unrepealable, ruining the world’s best heathcare system with 2,000 pages of viral gobbledygook. And the list of your misdeeds is growing at the the speed of a Michelle frown. You’ve accumulated more Frequent Liar Miles in a year than the Clintons (the entire family) will have accumulated in a lifetime. Your decision to put missile defense on the back burner is as dangerous as it is disgraceful. You say some people make too much money, while the words, “radical Islam” you won’t say at all. Everything that smacks of American tradition you smack down. Anything that smells of Marxism like your idiotic slip-of-the-redistribution-of-wealth tongue remark you embrace like you’re holding a Playboy Bunny. You call the new Arizona Immigration law vile without having read it while you demonstrate a venomous dislike for saluting the American Flag.
Does anybody ever consider what Russian Generals are thinking? “I wonder what Barack’s response would be, comrades, if we decided to vaporize Israel tomorrow? Hah. Hah. Hah.”
Well, Rachel Peepers can tell you. President Obama would grab what they call the “football”; the code books needed to launch a full retaliatory response. And he’d punt.