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October 10, 2013 - 9:37 pm
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WASHINGTON – Congressional Republicans walked away from a White House meeting Thursday evening without a deal to either reopen the federal government or raise the nation’s debt ceiling, but there are hints that negotiations are continuing behind the scenes.

President Obama – at least for the time being – rejected an entreaty from House Republicans to increase the $16.7 trillion debt limit for about six weeks, thus stabilizing the government’s borrowing power, in exchange for the administration’s commitment to discuss a laundry list of economic issues, including entitlement reform.

But the White House is trolling for bigger fish and delayed any commitment. Press Secretary Jay Carney issued a statement stating that the two sides “had a good meeting” and that the president and his aides listened to the GOP proposal.

“After a discussion about potential paths forward, no specific determination was made,” the statement read. “The president looks forward to making continued progress with members on both sides of the aisle. The president’s goal remains to ensure we pay the bills we’ve incurred, reopen the government and get back to the business of growing the economy, creating jobs and strengthening the middle class.”

The office of House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), who led the 18-member Republican contingent that met with Obama for about 90 minutes, also issued a statement, maintaining that lawmakers offered their proposal to temporarily extend the debt limit and begin discussions to reopen the government.

“No final decisions were made; however, it was a useful and productive conversation,” the statement said.

The president and House leaders agreed that communications should continue throughout the evening.

“House Republicans remain committed to good faith negotiations with the president and we are pleased there was an opportunity to sit down and begin a constructive dialogue tonight,” the statement read.

The White House and Congress are attempting to resolve an ongoing dispute that has interrupted some governmental services and riled markets. House Republicans originally offered to adopt a temporary spending plan, known as a continuing resolution, to fund the federal government beyond the end of the federal fiscal year on Sept. 30. In exchange, the caucus sought to defund the Affordable Care Act, popularly known as Obamacare, the healthcare law that, among other things, requires everyone to obtain health insurance.

Neither Obama nor Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, of Nevada, agreed to those terms, leading to a partial governmental shutdown that has extended for 10 days and counting. The Democrats are seeking a “clean” continuing resolution, meaning one with no strings attached. Republicans have amended their demands along the way, asking that the implementation of Obamacare be postponed for a year rather than having its funding killed. None of the proposals met White House muster.

Further complicating the debate is the debt ceiling, which requires congressional action. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew has warned lawmakers that failing to raise the debt ceiling by Oct. 17 would leave the government without borrowing authority, meaning it would not be able to meet its financial obligations.

Lew appeared before the Senate Finance Committee on Thursday and said the current imbroglio represents “an important moment in American history.”

“Congress has an important choice to make for the American people,” Lew said. “Congress alone has the power to act to make sure that the full faith and credit of the United States is never called into question. No Congress in 224 years of American history has allowed our country to default and it is my sincere hope that this Congress will not be the first. At the same time, Congress should pass legislation to fund the government and end the standoff.”

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"President Obama – at least for the time being – rejected an entreaty from House Republicans to increase the $16.7 trillion debt limit for about six weeks, thus stabilizing the government’s borrowing power, in exchange for the administration’s commitment to discuss a laundry list of economic issues, including entitlement reform."
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If this is the strategy of The Stupid Party then they will indeed fold - probably before the weekend. When will they ever learn that giving up something concrete in return for a commitment from Obozo does nothing but give him/them time to lay out a new plan of attack?

Anyone remember the Stupak promise? Anyone remember "You can keep your Dr."? Anyone remember.... - oh crap - such a laundry list of broken promises and outright lies from this asshat.

Obozo's poll numbers are sinking quicker than a sieve and the SOP (Stupid Old Party) is on the verge of getting something concrete and they're eager to piss it all away - and for what? A 'commitment'? A commitment to talk? Look where that has got them in the past. Holding Obozo's feet to the fire is the only way to get anything from him.

Stupid is as stupid does and Boner and Co. fit that to a tee.




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They are still betting that the Repubs will cave. Prolly a good bet. Ugly game of chicken. However, if it's me speaking for the Repubs. I simply stop the game.

"We are done talking. We have passed many bills to provide funding. They are sitting in the Senate. Pick one. We don't care which."
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The reason Reid has refused to compromise is that he knows he doesn't need to, with weak-kneed doyennes like this. It's like we Neville Chamberlain negotiating for us.
48 weeks ago
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Meetings and speeches are the "product" our government feeds the electorate. Contrary to popular belief, hot air will NOT fix the economy.
48 weeks ago
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We disagree
48 weeks ago
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Don't be so specific!

48 weeks ago
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Jenny Beth is right. This is our hill to die on.
Debts deficits, entitlements are all long term background noise. Obamacare has a good change to be the tipping point where America descended irretrievably into socialism.
It is THE most serious issue "right now!"
48 weeks ago
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Would the Republicans in Congress please take a moment to reflect upon President Charlie Crist?

The media called Florida Governor Crist the Republican frontrunner, if he chose to run for President, after he indorsed Senator McCain the day before the Florida Primary. This was 2008.

Two years later he couldn't even win his party's Primary for Senator.

No doubt he feels more at home these days with the Dems, which kind of proves that the Primary voters knew pretty well why they rejected him.

Seems obvious to me that many Congressional Republicans are more interested in keeping their Obamacare subsidies than representing the people who sent them to DC. They would rather change the conversation, and hope we forget. All I can say is remember President Crist.
48 weeks ago
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How about this tactic:

The House tells the Senate that only upon passage and signing of a budget for F&-2014, will the House vote on raising the dept limit, and only to a point that will cover the projected deficit contained within that budget, which would - theoretically at least - force the administration to mind its P's and Q's on spending for the coming year, and then: Rinse and Repeat.
48 weeks ago
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Chicken Lew seen running around barn-yard screaming "the sky is falling, the sky is falling"; country responds: Yawn!....Haven't we heard this before about the Sequester?

The only ones causing any anxiety about the Full Faith and Credit of the U.S. Government.....
are the executive officials of the U.S. Government.

NO BLANK CHECKS!
48 weeks ago
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When are the GOPs going to face facts. It has been demonstrated many times that the Dems' word is not worth bleep. The Dems crawfish on commitments. The GOP needs to hold all the Dem feet to the fire on the budget and on the debt until they scream.
When will the GOP flatly ask Jack Lew one question: Are you telling us that if we don't raise the ceiling, you will welsh on paying the vig' on the debt? There is plenty of tax revenue coming in to pay the essentials---including the vig'. Or, does Lew want to spend the money on running shrimp on treadmills?
48 weeks ago
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With no Senate majority & a POTUS who is completely in the tank, the Pubs simply don't have the leverage to accomplish any of their goals. Let the Dems have the whole enchilada. Let the American people discover for themselves just what a disaster Obamacare is going to be. That writing is already on the wall. (See here: http://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/editorial-obamacare-premiums-nowhere-near-affordable) It's. The. Only. Way.
48 weeks ago
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Too risky. We have the house. If it doesn't get through the house...it doesn't get done.
It is the most powerful branch by design.
48 weeks ago
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Bills have to pass the Senate as well & then there is the presidential veto pen as yet another obstacle. I do think the Republicans in the House were wise to pass these bills designed to fund everything (but Obamacare) but it's now a stalemate. At this point they should stand down, allow the impact of Obamacare to be felt. This battle is lost but the war is far from over. Dems stand to lose many elections in 2014.
48 weeks ago
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O-care is going to be a disaster no matter what. So why do nothing? That would show the GOP (once again) folded when they could have done more.
Just think past being reasonable and moderate. The lefties do it all the time and they are more powerful than ever.
48 weeks ago
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They have done all they can do, really. Without enough Democrats to cross the aisle & join their cause, it's pointless & Obama's veto pen would still be waiting. Again, without that Senate majority & the seat at the helm of the WH, they can only carry it so far & that's it.

These people must be defeated at the ballot box. What the Republican Party needs to be doing is working very hard on what will be required to attain a much broader voter base. Meantime, the Democrats are enjoying wider appeal than they would otherwise because the Pubs are continually putting people off by the droves.
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Sadly, the number of people who will have to suffer is what's at stake.

In a purely pragmatic sense, one has to shake their head and admit, "Hey...if that's what it takes, it can't be helped."

For the compassion that I feel though, to say nothing of the FACT that national socialists will blame conservatives for whatever goes wrong with the healthcare setup, just makes me cringe.

48 weeks ago
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There are two powerful forces that emanate from the dark side of human nature that drive what has brought this on (the entitlement mentality): Greed & avarice. The left has done a stellar job over the course of many years (think back to FDR & ever since) of tapping into this phenomenon & making incredible political hay over it. It's no wonder that talk of independence & freedom cuts no ice with so many people; they just want that check in the mail.
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"But the White House is trolling for bigger fish and delayed any commitment. Press Secretary Jay Carney issued a statement stating that the two sides “had a good meeting” and that the president and his aides listened to the GOP proposal."

OK, so what this means to me after years of listening to the national socialist's spin on everything is that the meeting sucked (for democrats) and that the president did all the talking and didn't listen to ANYTHING the republicans had to say.

That, and the following paragraph indicate to me that president Golfalot isn't about to roll the republicans like he thinks he can. He threatened and yelled and pointed his bony little girlie-man finger at everyone, and did his best sophomoric "serious tone and look" act and the republicans weren't buying any of that.

And to make it sound like His Petulance is "willing to negotiate" and to give us the impression he's bigger than his arrogance is just an insult to our intelligence and confirms our lack of respect for the boy.

The democrats OWN the shutdown. They also OWN the PP CACA launch debacle as well as its imminent failure overall.

The paint's starting to peel and the curtain is being drawn back only we won't find a well-meaning "wizard" but a truly evil group of people who have lusted for power their entire lives.
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