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A Cop’s Worst Nightmare

Sometimes life is just awful, and sometimes it’s awful but lawful.

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Jack Dunphy

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October 30, 2013 - 10:44 pm
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It is by far the weightiest decision a police officer must make: Should I pull the trigger?  And though he must reach that decision in less time than it takes to read this sentence, his actions will be examined and critiqued for months or even years, often by people with little experience or understanding of what it’s like to make such a decision.

Last Tuesday at about 3:15 p.m., two Sonoma County, California sheriff’s deputies were on patrol in Santa Rosa, about 50 miles north of San Francisco, when they spotted a male walking down the street with a rifle.  News reports say the deputies stopped, took cover behind the opened doors of their car, and shouted for the male to drop the gun.  One of the deputies then fired eight shots, hitting the male with seven of them, two of which were fatal.  Then came the awful discovery: the male was 13 years old; the rifle he carried was a pellet gun.  Now a mother and father must mourn the loss of their son, and the deputy must bear the weight of having killed him.

Of course, there have been the usual accusations of murder and calls for the deputy to be fired and jailed (see the comments at the Daily Kos story, for example), but a dispassionate look at the shooting must resolve the question of whether, despite what came to light in the aftermath, the deputy was legally justified in his use of deadly force at the moment he pulled the trigger.

Every police officer can tell stories of times when he could have shot someone, when he almost did shoot someone, but for some reason held his fire.  This is one of mine.  I was working a plain-clothes assignment in one of L.A.’s less glamorous neighborhoods.  Some of my coworkers were interviewing two men about some suspected criminal activity, and as they did so my job was to stand nearby and watch their backs.  The neighborhood was such that any white guy in jeans and a T-shirt, no matter how scruffy he might appear, is automatically presumed to be a cop, so though we were in plain clothes I was confident that everyone within eyesight knew we were police officers.

In the driveway next door to where we were standing was a man working on his car, installing a new radio or some speakers, as I recall, and he was kneeling down outside the car as he fiddled with something or other under the dashboard.  The setting was all quite routine and ordinary . . . until it wasn’t.

A young man walked up to the man working on his car and pulled out what to me appeared to be a semiautomatic pistol, pointing it at the kneeling man’s head.  In that moment I was certain that I was witnessing a carjacking or perhaps even a murder.  I drew my pistol and shouted, “Police!  Drop it!”  My two coworkers, unaware of what I had seen but alerted by my cry, took cover and drew their own weapons, and for an excruciating second or two the man with the gun froze in place, neither raising nor lowering it, as three cops performed the infinitesimal mental calculations required before deciding whether or not to shoot him.  At last he dropped the gun, which turned out to be a plastic replica of the one I carried.  The man he had approached was his friend and neighbor, and he had given no apparent thought to the potential consequences of pointing a realistic toy gun at him out on a public street.

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One other thing, and I've come to this fairly recently, it's time for reflexive support of the police to stop among conservatives. We've past the point where they are "our friends". The police serve an increasingly authoritarian state where they are taught that they are under siege and that everyone they meet might kill them. They are increasingly the Warriors keeping order for Plato's Philosopher-Kings of the Republic. The half remembered images of the helpful beat cop of yore are dangerous especially in blue states, but increasingly in red ones too. Apologies to cops who still respect citizens rights...sucks that you're the bad guys now...
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Cops didn't always perceive seeing ANYONE with a gun as an immediate threat. They absolutely do nowadays. When I was an 11 year old kid (1958), my friends and I used to go rabbit hunting in the fields near our homes carrying our .22 rifles with us - walking down the streets. I can remember once a police officer stopped next to us, leaned out of his window and casually said, "Mind where you are shooting and be safe." Today, the cop would immediately call SWAT and all hell would break loose, perhaps with one of the kids ending up dead. My point is that the mindset of the police today has devolved into an "us vs them" attitude where EVERY contact is potentially dangerous. Today, the police have been "militarized" and are trained to be aggressive. Society is definitely NOT safer.
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But of course George Zimmerman had to be put on trial for murder for finally pulling his gun and shooting Trayvon Martin while Trayvon was astride George, bashing his head bloody against the concrete.

Sorry, don't buy it. The kid wasn't doing anything illegal, even if it was a real gun. What is threatening about the kid turning around to see who is yelling at him. Maybe panicky cops shouldn't be on the street.

Why do we have to hear the cops version from another cop on this site? Who is speaking for the kid and his family with the evidence at hand?
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For those who have not pinned on the Tin Target and enforced in a metropolitan area, ALL contacts ARE potentially dangerous. If, as a police officer, you do not KNOW that fact, you are liable not to be around at EOW. I read that the boy pointed his weapon at the officers, and that it appeared to be a semiautomatic rifle. If so, we cannot reasonably fault the shooter. Pointing a gun at an officer automatically evokes a fatal response. To Hornspe: If we're the Bad Guys now, please don't call us to save you. Since you can't trust us, and lack the intelligence to read the facts of a case, you're now on your own. Godd luck !
49 weeks ago
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I assure you, I no longer trust you enough to call you. You may want to consider that in 110+ comments, no one else does either. As I noted, I didn't used to feel like this. You are the bad guys now. I'm really sorry. Go read Peel's 9 Rules and see how far you have fallen.
46 weeks ago
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Wow, rereading the comments. The Police have somehow succeeded in reversing the historically unequivocal support of conservative Law and Order Republicans, into something approaching seething, open hatred.

50 weeks ago
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Conservative frustration/hatred is a very important issue. However it is not hatred of Gays and Blacks, it is hatred of less than pure elements within their own movement. The most vocal elements of our camp are in complete despair. They have stopped referring to Jeb Bush as a RINO and not consider him to be a Socialist as they proclaim there to be no difference between the two parties.
50 weeks ago
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I can understand their frustration. Politically George Bush had a Repub congress and senate and he was impotent in his efforts to rationalize entitlements. He tried to make a move on Social Security and the collective voices of socialism along with lack of 60 votes in the Senate stopped his plan cold. Contrast that with Pelosi and Reed pushing through the ACA with less than 60 Senators. Like normal aggressive males they want to play a little offense, not just defense. In Bush's defense I doubt any of the angry keyboard warriors on our side did anything but change the channel from ESPN to FOX News to support his efforts. There was no groundswell of support.
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Maybe it is just the nature of the game that we play mostly defense/ Rope-a-dope. "A conservative is someone who stands astride history and yells, Stop": William F. Buckley. In Christianity we build up our defenses (prayer) to resist the temptation of the devil. Defense is not as much fun as playing offense. So these guys play offense against our own side.
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But ultimately their despair plays into the hands of our opponents. Cops are not perfect. They are flawed human beings doing a job. Not unlike wide receivers or accountants they vary greatly in their skill level. But a few cops have given me a break. Now it is time for me to give the a break.
50 weeks ago
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Uh...no...at least not in this case. You get a "break" losing you temper and professionalism with a guy acting like a jerk in a traffic stop. You don't get a break for blowing away a 13 year old kid who is DOING SOMETHING COMPLETELY LEGAL on the streets of a major city. Even if it had been a rifle, had the kid been 18 (I believe), or certainly 21, and the gun unloaded, his actions would have been lawful. This deputy made the presumption that an innocent action was a lethal threat and killed a minor under circumstances that would likely have breached the rules of engagement in Fallujah. Therein lies the problem. We no longer have police, we have recon patrols who move from a posture of "deter crime and arrest lawbreakers" to "kill any threat who does not instantly surrender" *at will* the moment they feel threatened. This would get a concealed carry permit holder the death penalty, but no CCW holder would ever have made the error. As citizens with a respect for gun owners our minds would have gone to, "hmm...I wonder where that guy is taking that rifle" to "he looks pretty young" to "oh...I'll bet it's an air soft gun, gee those really look real." If the Deputy wanted to be a front line soldier in a war zone, the military is available. Also if we don't want a front line in a war zone in our country, we need to declare victory in the "War on Drugs" and take a lesson from Prohibition. No more looking the other way when these jacked up drug warriors blow away innocent people walking down the street or sleeping in a house fingered by a jailbird stooge looking for a deal in a drug case.
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We need to end the war on drugs, it is a bigger threat to our society than the drug problem. The execution of Jose Guerena, the Iraq vet in Tucson, was the last straw for me. Police need to walk to the door and serve warrants, no SWAT Teams. This outbreak of police executing citizens has got to be stopped, and officers should be held accountable, the same standard that applies to CC should apply to them. Even accused drug dealers deserve their day in court and to be able to face their accusers. I feel for police officers killed in the line of duty, but this is no justification for execution of innocent citizens. Take the SWAT teams away as well as the military mentality that our citizens are the enemy. http://pjmedia.com/blog/jose-guerena-vindicated-widow-receives-3-4m-settlement-from-arizona-police/
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Another quick thought, if we are going to militarize the police, let's be honest about it. Give them Humvee's and urban camo, issue M-4's as carry guns, and put them in military body armor and set them to patrolling the streets in the "bad" parts of town. The issue here is the missed visual que. This kid needed to know that he lived in a hyper militarized police state because his neighborhood was front line of the Drug War. No kid in Fallujah would openly carry something that looked like an AK where the US military was patrolling, it would be too dangerous. This kid made the mistake of believing that since he was complying with the law, he was safe. Had he understood where he was and who he was he would still be alive. We need our citizens to understand who and what they are to the police. They need visual aids.
49 weeks ago
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the war on drugs has turned our country into a police state and is destroying our freedom. now they have the war on terror to supplement the war on drugs. these "wars" are a bigger threat to our country than drug use or terrorism. we don't need a "militarized" police force, we don't need a federal police force, and we sure don't need militarized gung ho police officers gunning down citizens, family pets, and children and destroying our republic and rights in the process. I have young family members who smoke pot, I don't want to see them gunned down because of these minor behavioral problems. the reckless use of deadly force by police officers is increasing and we are seeing it more and more. these bad officers are giving the decent ones a bad name, the bad ones MUST be culled. We need to be able to recognize the police as our friends, not our enemies or we are heading for big trouble.
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Yeah, it's a lot more profound than I expected. Unless I missed one, there are no comments supporting the police that are unqualified, and I see only about two or three of those. Additionally, only one or two topics on "current" PJ Media (defined as what has yet to scroll off). Has generated more comments. The anger thus seems both deep and wide. I would again respectfully ask the author (whose previous contributions I have, by in large, agreed with) for his opinion on the cause of this avalanche of negative commentary, and how deserved he might believe it is. Not tried this before, but perhaps everyone might LIKE this comment as a means of indicating if they are still reading the thread, and to solicit the authors input. I will stipulate that doing so will not indicate a preference for my opinion per se.
50 weeks ago
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Horrible tragedy. Will pray for the kid, his family, and the officer. If I blow it on my job, I miss a deal. If a cop blows it someone dies. They can try to prepare the officer for such a moment, but it is not easy. I get stopped by cops all the time. Have yet to meet a sadistic officer. Most have been nice guys.
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From the info that has been made available this is my humble but learned opinion: the officer who actually fired on the kid was a highly trained and motivated SWAT type guy who was/is at the top of his game when it comes to tactical scenarios and proper response. When he saw the kid with a realistic looking firearm he went into the "zone" he had been preparing for ... a chance to prove his worth and ability and finally get his just dues and bragging rights as a special ops type cop. Trouble is if he was such a tactical expert with exceptional shooting ability, it seems to me he could have (should have) waited that extra split second to more accurately access the situation before pulling the trigger, and not just pulling the trigger one or two times but multiple times. Well, the SWAT guy has his bragging rights now, but an innocent kid who was just playing was hosed on the spot. Don't know about all y'all but I wouldn't want that outcome on my professional cop resume.
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Take note everyone, this is a conservative/libertarian website. There are essentially NO comments in the least sympathetic to the cops. Maybe the police might start questioning what they have done to so completely lose the support of those who have previously been their staunch defenders. With all seriousness I would ask Jack what his reaction to this avalanche of negative commentary is...it has to be disconcerting for anyone concerned by the public's perception of the police.
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Well, disrespect for the police began when women were permitted on the force; sorry folks, but it meant the police were feminized; next, they ticket people for cracked car windows and jaywalking while hordes of illegal aliens breaking local, state and federal laws go scot free; third, they do all of the above and more, and then demand pay raises when the struggling pubic at large hasn't had a raise in eight years. In short, they became union Democrats whether they vote that way or not.
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I'm not saying the situation is the fault of the police. They are only following the law, but the laws are no longer meant to serve or protect the public at large, but rather to protect a variety of special political interests. The cops are their enforcers; that is why they are increasingly resented by the public at large.
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hornspe,

It is my opinion that modern police have worked hard and long to richly earn the overwhelming hatred of what once was their most supportive base. On a strictly intuitive level, ordinary observation of police in their day to day rounds suggest something is drastically out of whack in a free society.

Modern police clearly emanate the idea that they are in control of society. They are the shephards, we are the meek sheep to follow.

Just look at a police car. In the old days, it would usually be stenciled "To Protect and Serve." Nowadays, more likely than not, it screams "Keep Away!" Cars are painted in menacing black and white colors. Police wear black Battle Dress Uniforms giving credence to their self-image as Seal Team Six members assaulting Osama Bin Laden.

There are legions of videos on YOUTUBE of ordinary traffic stops where the police have in essence taken over an entire city block or a quarter mile square area of a freeway in order to issue a traffic ticket, with black masked snipers, rude and belligerent screaming at passerby doing the videotaping, menacing postures, guns drawn. Every other normal human activity is supposed to complete cease in the area while the police conduct their business. In any given small rural county, the Police "presence" is overwhelmingly intimidating and menacing.

The Police lost their support when we became a Police State.
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"Cars are painted in menacing black and white colors."

Um, excuse me. That has been the norm since the 30s or so. We didn't see pretty cop cars until the 80s.

Drop that sentence, and the entire over-the-top last paragraph, and you have a sensible summation of this very real problem.
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The ones around here are painted with stripes that make them look like pouncing black tigers. They lay in wait all day long and two or three will pounce on one suspecting motorist, in order to scare the living sh!t out of them.

And "KEEP AWAY" in huge letters, like if you were to accidentally touch the side of it, you might get poisoned.

I don't recall the stripes like that on cruisers when I was growing up.
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Just over two years ago, my friend as a pedestrian was killed in a hit and run and the vehicle captured on camera. Sheriffs still haven't solved.
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Sorry Jack, but based on YOUR description of the event, there was NO reason for the Sonoma deputies to have fired.

They weren't threatened. If they feel that another citizen, unknown to them and not in uniform, simply carrying a rifle on a public street is a threat sufficient to justify threatening and then using lethal force, then the deputies have either been very badly trained, or are rogues who deserve the death penalty because they acted to murder a citizen under color of law. ( I'm going to go with the former until otherwise proven. That's their "benefit of the doubt." )
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"Awful but lawful"? I'd be careful with slinging the jargon. I'm a retired cop. You know from your experience as a police officer there are many questions that are left out of your brief one paragraph description. Here's a few, that a proper investigation would likely cover: Did the subject indicate to the officers that he heard them verbally address? Him? How many attempts did they make? If he did indicate, how did he do so? How was he holding the rifle when he was first addressed? Where was the rifle pointed - at the ground, in the air, Over his shoulder, in an arm carry point perpendicular to his line of travel perhaps toward the officers' line of approach? Was it already pointing at the officers' general direction. If not then did he turn it/raise it/lower it and point it in the direction of the officers? I hope for everyone's sake there is at least one independent witness to the shooting. But for now everyone, even those of us sympathetic to our law enforcement personnel, should withhold rash judgments like "it's awful but lawful". We don't know that, yet.
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Thank you.


And thanks for your service, too.
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With the amount of money being dumped into the Police Forces, why not spring to get some of these officers some Google Glasses so that we can all finally see what they saw.

Then there won't be a police report that's so easy to fabricate.
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Bah.

I have seen the Washington PD gun down an unarmed woman with a small child in her car *after* she stopped and got out. I have seen the LAPD light up two elderly Asian women in a truck when they were looking for a hulking black man in a different color truck. I have seen the Boston PD claim 'exigent circumstances' to storm through entire neighborhoods -- and be applauded by the sheeplike citizenry afterwards. Link related:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MezLoczjfY

Watch that footage, Mr. Dunphy. Watch just the first half minute of it, and imagine this is your house with your bewildered family being manhandled by men with full-automatic weaponry and NO DAMN WARRANT. And now here you are soft-soaping the death in broad daylight of a teenager with an Airsoft gun in a state where just last year, open carry of longarms was legal. Now it nets you a death penalty, carried out Judge-Dredd style on the spot with no appeal by men who are shielded from criminal prosecution should any of those rounds go astray.

Your profession has fallen on hard times. You look like bad guys, dress in black like bad guys, and act like bad guys. You speak of your fellow citizens as 'civilians' and profile us as though we were all potentially guilty of something. Well by God, America is profiling you right back -- and we are not thrilled with what we see.
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"manhandled by men with full-automatic weaponry and NO DAMN WARRANT


And no probable cause, either.

Our Constitution isn't even worthwhile as toilet paper if "exigent circumstances" justify this conduct.


If that's the standard, there is NOTHING the government cannot do. We ARE a police state.
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I just find the present uproar about the NSA's spying activities to be completely hilarious. At the very least, the NSA tries to get court orders, and apparently follows them, allowing whatever it is they do.

99.999999999999 percent of the time, local police make no effort to get a warrant, search or arrest for what they do. Anyone that even tries is probably thought of as some sort of quaint weirdo. Yet that is un-newsworthy. The New York Judge that struck down New York City's "Stop and Frisk" policy found that the local police massively violated the Fourth Amendment over many years. And that same activity takes place everywhere in the United States every single day.
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Whatever.

Police are told to put bad guys behind bars. That's (by and large) what they sign up to do. The majority aren't there to be thugs or bullies or killers.

Fifty years ago, before the breakdown of the nuclear family, and before public education started telling people to worry more about their rights and base their relationships solely on their skin color, the majority of citizens were just that, CITIZENS. They were industrious, self-reliant, hard-working, and compared to today, a lot more curteous, moral and conscientious.

Now we have places like New York City where the majority of pregnancies end in abortion, 80+% of high school graduates can't read, most children are the product of broken homes, and public school indoctrinates people with early sexualization and underachievement. Political groups teach minorities (and any whites who will listen) that responsibility, morality, sobriety and self-reliance are for idiots. And those same cops who signed up to put bad guys behind bars and to protect the innocent are expected to police these areas. They live in and are expected to police WAR ZONES.

Before society went south, police were sufficient to police our society. Want to know why they're militarizing? Because they're working in war zones now.

There are massive political and leadership failures in our country; absolutely. But the largest failure has been the failure of America to create citizens. We have a nation full of people demanding the rights of citizens but only willing to have the responsibilities of subjects (if that). Most cops are decent people. The failure is in society and the leadership we elect.
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Guess what, there is no draft for the police force. The job is to protect and defend the rights and property of the citizens. Sorry if it's not safe. If we fire everyone incapable of doing it right we'll have to pay a lot more, but the product will be better. If my tax money is going to be spent, I vote for that.
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"The job is to protect and defend the rights and property of the citizens. "

No, sorry, that's not their job. Not directly, anyway.

Their job is to enforce the law. Period. They have no duty to protect anyone.
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Well, they used to put "To Protect and Serve" on the sides of the cars...and the supposed intent of the law is to maintain the civil and property rights of the citizens...but I guess it's a lot more fun to dress up in black outfits and "clear" rooms filled with real targ...er...drug suspects. I say this having shot a tactical carbine competition recently with the head of our local SWAT (big city in Texas). Great guy, very knowledgeable, helpful to the younger shooters, seemed like a supporter of the 2nd Amendment (although we didn't talk about that specifically). It was upsetting that I hated what this guy did for a living. We've created a monster that eats good people too. They think they're the good guys and they're not...it's time some of them realize this.
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"Well, they used to put "To Protect and Serve" on the sides of the cars"

That's a slogan, nothing more. It means less than a Superbowl commercial for [fill in the blank].

Courts have repeatedly held that police have no duty to protect anyone.


...and the supposed intent of the law is to maintain the civil and property rights of the citizens..

Yes, in a general way, that's true. But it's not specifically true of any particular law, and it's not at all true of the duties of police officers.
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Background: I worked in law enforcement for a short while, then came to my senses and went into the Army. I know several cops, I work with several Guardsmen who are cops, sometimes my Army training is with cops.

You make good points, but by and large the problem ISN'T the cops themselves. Up above you talked about "menacing black and white paint" on cop cars etc. That largely happened because of a court ruling on an entrapment case that declared traffic enforcement vehicles had to be clearly marked. The case was later overturned, but making sure vehicles are clearly marked is a good thing for safety reasons.

Further, cops execute policy. They do their jobs as outlined, or they go to jail (or get fired, if they're lucky). Are there scumbag cops who get put on YouTube because they're poster boys for retroactive abortion? Yes. But most cops genuinely do the best job they can do. I know one cop who put in about 20 hours a week of his personal time for a month surveilling a meth house in his jurisdiction so he could get dirty people off the street. When he presented the case to the DA, the DA tried to plea bargain. What a joke!

In the first place, most police chiefs are political appointees. Most heavily urban areas tend to vote pretty leftist, so you get leftist policies regarding use of force and persecuting concealed-carriers in urban areas. If it's a Sheriff, they're usually elected. Think of all the Sheriff's who signed letters giving Obama a stiff middle finger on gun enforcement during the last gun push, and the Sheriffs in NY and Colorado who are now refusing to enforce stupid gun laws recently passed by legislatures. But even then, you sometimes get stupid Sheriffs elected in some areas. State police chiefs are often appointed positions as well.

On top of that, city councils and state legislatures often write policy regarding law enforcement, and they often write law that puts a revolving door on jails. Good cops are hamstrung in investigating crime and apprehending criminals, but the criminals just walk right out of the slammer when some lazy DA looking for a high conviction rate plea-bargains everything and then the councils, legislatures and parole boards let jailbirds out of the slammer when they ought to be executing the rapists, thieves, child molesters, drug dealers, etc. So scum gets right back on the street and keeps polluting their communities and the gene pool.
On top of this, our drug policy does nothing to stop drug lords from selling their wares, and we refuse to achieve a body count in the war on drugs. So Latin American and other cartels have a high profit motive and low risk factor when they combine with local gangs to move and sell their products. The cartels are increasingly militarized, so the cops have to be as well.

What do you think happens when the family breaks down, education levels plummet, criminals get a slap on the wrist, drug use gets mainstreamed, and the fed arms cartels? Cops are the executors of (increasingly stupid) policy. By and large they do an amazingly good job of protecting us IN SPITE OF OUR OWN STUPID VOTING HABITS. What do you want the cops to do? Just walk off the job en masse? Stupid cops grab headlines, and yeah, there are some departments with thuggish policies, and there are lots of local, state and federal officials who have a lower IQ than a can of spray cheese. But cops don't have all the power you assume they do. It sounds like the ones in this article screwed up, but we don't know all the facts. And even if they did, what's your point? If you want Andy Griffith as a cop, you better live in Mayberry. And the US looks nothing like Mayberry right now. You want less militarized cops? We're going to need strong nuclear families, lots of civics programs, swift execution of violent and/or predatory criminals, much better literacy, low taxes and a stronger economy. You're attacking the symptom while ignoring the disease, which is leftism and cultural dependency.
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Police everywhere are treating everywhere as "War Zones," including deeply-moral, family-oriented, rock rib conservative rural red states.

This is not a failure to "create citizens," this is a failure to train the police.
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Militarized cops is a symptom of leftism in action. What do you get when you combine high taxes with ineffective school systems, dependency mentality and class warfare, coupled by refusal to execute violent offenders and a breakdown of the nuclear family and leftists in city, state and federal government? Anarchy. This is the result of our own stupid voting habits. People are demanding the rights of citizens but the responsibilities of subjects. You can't have it both ways. Either make your country Mayberry and have Andy Griffith, or let your country become a drug-riddled, hedonistic "utopia" with no good role modeling in the home and you can have shock troops policing the streets.
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