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		<title>By: Placer County Rich</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/a-conservative-earthquake-in-new-york-and-beyond/#comment-433710</link>
		<dc:creator>Placer County Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuesday will herald a good message; regardless of the exact outcome !

&quot;Some people &#039;GET-IT&#039; ... some folks never will.&quot;  Newt is brilliant as a strategist and thinker; he just doesn&#039;t seem to &#039;GET IT&#039; when it comes to application.  Like other well educated idealist ... he is limited like an officer who can WIN a battle; but, he has proven to the Conservative part of the Nation that he can not lead in &#039;WINNING THE WAR&#039;.  Regardless ... he is like &#039;soiled goods&#039; - too much baggage and I believe he is totally unelectable.  ((If he really wanted to be effective he would have to renounce ALL personal ambitions of running again.)) His last attempt &#039;to be drafted&#039; was, I believe, an ego driven mistake, and surely a miscalculation.

Mr. Steele does not impress me as a man who &#039;GET&#039;s-IT&#039; either ! 

If there is one thing Republicans could use; I think it would be a &quot;Carville type&quot; mouthpiece.  Damage control is just something the party does not understand; and the Dem&#039;s are masters at pounding on their agenda; regardless of letting facts or truth - get in the way !

Tuesday night should help define the mission ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuesday will herald a good message; regardless of the exact outcome !</p>
<p>&#8220;Some people &#8216;GET-IT&#8217; &#8230; some folks never will.&#8221;  Newt is brilliant as a strategist and thinker; he just doesn&#8217;t seem to &#8216;GET IT&#8217; when it comes to application.  Like other well educated idealist &#8230; he is limited like an officer who can WIN a battle; but, he has proven to the Conservative part of the Nation that he can not lead in &#8216;WINNING THE WAR&#8217;.  Regardless &#8230; he is like &#8216;soiled goods&#8217; &#8211; too much baggage and I believe he is totally unelectable.  ((If he really wanted to be effective he would have to renounce ALL personal ambitions of running again.)) His last attempt &#8216;to be drafted&#8217; was, I believe, an ego driven mistake, and surely a miscalculation.</p>
<p>Mr. Steele does not impress me as a man who &#8216;GET&#8217;s-IT&#8217; either ! </p>
<p>If there is one thing Republicans could use; I think it would be a &#8220;Carville type&#8221; mouthpiece.  Damage control is just something the party does not understand; and the Dem&#8217;s are masters at pounding on their agenda; regardless of letting facts or truth &#8211; get in the way !</p>
<p>Tuesday night should help define the mission &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Avitar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avitar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newt does have good ideas and is fine historian but what he knows about politics is more wrong than he will ever imagine.  The Rinos stabbed him in the back when he was speaker yet he comes back and supports them.  DUMB!
Is there a name for this phenominom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newt does have good ideas and is fine historian but what he knows about politics is more wrong than he will ever imagine.  The Rinos stabbed him in the back when he was speaker yet he comes back and supports them.  DUMB!<br />
Is there a name for this phenominom?</p>
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		<title>By: oldguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Mr. Lector said, &quot;If you can&#039;t keep up with the conversation, be quiet!&quot; Good advice for Newt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Mr. Lector said, &#8220;If you can&#8217;t keep up with the conversation, be quiet!&#8221; Good advice for Newt.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Z</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/a-conservative-earthquake-in-new-york-and-beyond/#comment-433035</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoffman is to New York, 

as Liberman is to Connecticut. 
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The apparatchniks are seizing control of mid level positions in many of our institutions.

That is how a leftist like Dede Scozzafava gets nominated.  A few county bosses selected her.

John F. Kennedy would refute the values and policies of today&#039;s Democrat Party.

If Hoffman wins, he and Liberman will give legitimacy to electing Independents in the Northeast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoffman is to New York, </p>
<p>as Liberman is to Connecticut.<br />
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The apparatchniks are seizing control of mid level positions in many of our institutions.</p>
<p>That is how a leftist like Dede Scozzafava gets nominated.  A few county bosses selected her.</p>
<p>John F. Kennedy would refute the values and policies of today&#8217;s Democrat Party.</p>
<p>If Hoffman wins, he and Liberman will give legitimacy to electing Independents in the Northeast.</p>
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		<title>By: GlennO</title>
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		<dc:creator>GlennO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Purge is On!

Forget creating a new Party... the Republican party belongs to Conservatives and we will take it back. Reagan rallied us and we did it before.

How?

Supporting only those candidates who adhere to Conservative/Constitutional Principles. 

We have the power of alternative media, communications and the purse at our finger tips. 

There is clearly a majority of conservative Americans.

Now get to work! 

There&#039;s Bolsheviks in the White House and the inmates have taken over the asylum - Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Purge is On!</p>
<p>Forget creating a new Party&#8230; the Republican party belongs to Conservatives and we will take it back. Reagan rallied us and we did it before.</p>
<p>How?</p>
<p>Supporting only those candidates who adhere to Conservative/Constitutional Principles. </p>
<p>We have the power of alternative media, communications and the purse at our finger tips. </p>
<p>There is clearly a majority of conservative Americans.</p>
<p>Now get to work! </p>
<p>There&#8217;s Bolsheviks in the White House and the inmates have taken over the asylum &#8211; Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc  Malone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc  Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#98 baal - No, I would not support the Pledge.  This has already been done each election.  It rarely means much.  Besides, I support the Fair Tax.  When you change the tax code completely, how would you compare and etermine if atxes were raised.  Apples and Oranges.  However, the opposition will try to do so.  They will cherry-pick and distort.  &quot;Aha!  This group is paying more!  You raised taxes, you hypocrite.&quot;  They&#039;ll take their cheap shots, but one is not required to stand out in the open whilst they do so.

RE: shrinking the GOP - This is a Leftist meme; a canard.  The problem with the old guys in the GOP is they believe the MSM memes and they run scared.  For example, they become embarrassed by the religous right and try to distance themselves, even if they themselves are devout.  They jump through the hoops the Left holds out for them, afraid to take a stand.  The Leftist media has been trying to marginalize the GOP base, and the so-called moderates have been going along; buying the meme.  This is why the GOP has been shrinking.  The Far Right has been leaving, not the moderates.

  The truth is, it is not about Dems versus Pubs.  It is about Big Government versus Small Government.  The Conservatives, the Libertarians, and the Constitution Party are all Small Government types.  EVERYONE else is for Big Government.  Moderate/Liberal Pubs go in the same direction as Moderate/Liberal Dems.  They just get there more slowly.  The cliff, however is the same.  (A lemming analogy seems very apt, here.  Call it the Lemming Movement.)

  People were unhappy with deficit-spending Bush.  They were unhappy with the deficit-spending Pub Congress.  So, they threw them out and put in... deficit-spending Obama and Dems.  they got more of the same... in spades!  It&#039;s because it was defined as Pubs versus Dems, rather than as Big Government versus Small Government.  This is how we change things.  Change the understanding.  You don&#039;t like the Big Government spending?  Then choose Small Government types, not the Other Big Government types.

  Small versus Big.  David versus Goliath.  It&#039;s a winner, because it strips away the disguises (and sounds good, too).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#98 baal &#8211; No, I would not support the Pledge.  This has already been done each election.  It rarely means much.  Besides, I support the Fair Tax.  When you change the tax code completely, how would you compare and etermine if atxes were raised.  Apples and Oranges.  However, the opposition will try to do so.  They will cherry-pick and distort.  &#8220;Aha!  This group is paying more!  You raised taxes, you hypocrite.&#8221;  They&#8217;ll take their cheap shots, but one is not required to stand out in the open whilst they do so.</p>
<p>RE: shrinking the GOP &#8211; This is a Leftist meme; a canard.  The problem with the old guys in the GOP is they believe the MSM memes and they run scared.  For example, they become embarrassed by the religous right and try to distance themselves, even if they themselves are devout.  They jump through the hoops the Left holds out for them, afraid to take a stand.  The Leftist media has been trying to marginalize the GOP base, and the so-called moderates have been going along; buying the meme.  This is why the GOP has been shrinking.  The Far Right has been leaving, not the moderates.</p>
<p>  The truth is, it is not about Dems versus Pubs.  It is about Big Government versus Small Government.  The Conservatives, the Libertarians, and the Constitution Party are all Small Government types.  EVERYONE else is for Big Government.  Moderate/Liberal Pubs go in the same direction as Moderate/Liberal Dems.  They just get there more slowly.  The cliff, however is the same.  (A lemming analogy seems very apt, here.  Call it the Lemming Movement.)</p>
<p>  People were unhappy with deficit-spending Bush.  They were unhappy with the deficit-spending Pub Congress.  So, they threw them out and put in&#8230; deficit-spending Obama and Dems.  they got more of the same&#8230; in spades!  It&#8217;s because it was defined as Pubs versus Dems, rather than as Big Government versus Small Government.  This is how we change things.  Change the understanding.  You don&#8217;t like the Big Government spending?  Then choose Small Government types, not the Other Big Government types.</p>
<p>  Small versus Big.  David versus Goliath.  It&#8217;s a winner, because it strips away the disguises (and sounds good, too).</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#111  MOHO Yes, and there was a time when &quot;LIBERAL&quot; did not mean a gulag-loving,freedom hating,Stalinist thug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#111  MOHO Yes, and there was a time when &#8220;LIBERAL&#8221; did not mean a gulag-loving,freedom hating,Stalinist thug.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Majority coalitions &lt;b&gt;do&lt;/b&gt; work; its the only way you can get things done in Congress.  However, what Gingrich and other party old-farts don&#039;t realize is that they&#039;ve been out of step with the electorate for quite some time.  This is not a new phenomenon.  They&#039;ve been so out of step that they&#039;ve been disenfranchising increasing chunks of the electorate for some time and that chunk of people hasn&#039;t been voting.  So the republicrats and demopublicans have been listening to an ever-shrinking portion of the electorate and misguidedly thinking that they are representing america.  For the demopublicans its been the loony anti-war marxist left.  For the republicrats its been the loony religious right social conservatives.  Both groups have been pissing off the independents, just for different reasons.  If republicrats want to be a majority force in politics again, they&#039;re going to have to start paying attention to the independents.

The tea partiers are not pissed off republicans.  They are independents who are waking up from a political stupor and finally getting involved.  They aren&#039;t going to just lay back and take it anymore from either party.  Social conservatives have been driving the republicrat party and are more than willing to give up fiscal conservativism in order to get their social conservative agenda rammed down everyone&#039;s throats.  The independents and other fiscal conservatives have had it with this approach, epitomized by the policies of Bush 43.  They gave the republicrats a wake up call in 2006.  They didn&#039;t get it.  They gave you another massive wake up call in 2008.  The comments from the likes of New Gingrich, Orrin Hatch, Bob Bennett and other so-called &quot;conservatives&quot; from the republicrat establishment makes it quite clear that although the phone has been ringing loudly and incessantly for 3 years, they are still asleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Majority coalitions <b>do</b> work; its the only way you can get things done in Congress.  However, what Gingrich and other party old-farts don&#8217;t realize is that they&#8217;ve been out of step with the electorate for quite some time.  This is not a new phenomenon.  They&#8217;ve been so out of step that they&#8217;ve been disenfranchising increasing chunks of the electorate for some time and that chunk of people hasn&#8217;t been voting.  So the republicrats and demopublicans have been listening to an ever-shrinking portion of the electorate and misguidedly thinking that they are representing america.  For the demopublicans its been the loony anti-war marxist left.  For the republicrats its been the loony religious right social conservatives.  Both groups have been pissing off the independents, just for different reasons.  If republicrats want to be a majority force in politics again, they&#8217;re going to have to start paying attention to the independents.</p>
<p>The tea partiers are not pissed off republicans.  They are independents who are waking up from a political stupor and finally getting involved.  They aren&#8217;t going to just lay back and take it anymore from either party.  Social conservatives have been driving the republicrat party and are more than willing to give up fiscal conservativism in order to get their social conservative agenda rammed down everyone&#8217;s throats.  The independents and other fiscal conservatives have had it with this approach, epitomized by the policies of Bush 43.  They gave the republicrats a wake up call in 2006.  They didn&#8217;t get it.  They gave you another massive wake up call in 2008.  The comments from the likes of New Gingrich, Orrin Hatch, Bob Bennett and other so-called &#8220;conservatives&#8221; from the republicrat establishment makes it quite clear that although the phone has been ringing loudly and incessantly for 3 years, they are still asleep.</p>
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		<title>By: ETAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>ETAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ryan - I don&#039;t think that the GOP should &#039;shrink&#039;, which implies a reduction to a few specific points. I think that the GOP should return to basics, which are general rules, as articulated in the Constitution. 

The error of many in this suggestion of &#039;shrinking&#039; is to confuse particular points with general rules. The GOP ought to be for smaller government, which allows specific rules to be made by local government. Common rules ought to apply to common, crossing-the-state issues.

This perspective has nothing to do with religion. Dave, I disagree - intellect is NOT morally neutral but necessarily moral. The &#039;Golden Rule&#039;is moral law that rests in the intellect not in any authoritarian metaphysical voice.

I disagree that weeding out the dross from the GOP leaves a host of religious, or other,  fanatics. Such views are peripheral not ground views and are found in both parties. In the Democratic party, such religious or dogmatic views, aka radical socialism, have now taken over that party.

The basic perspective of the GOP is rooted in the Constitution. This is the conservative view. Nothing more, nothing less. It is rooted in an insistence on individual freedom and responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ryan &#8211; I don&#8217;t think that the GOP should &#8216;shrink&#8217;, which implies a reduction to a few specific points. I think that the GOP should return to basics, which are general rules, as articulated in the Constitution. </p>
<p>The error of many in this suggestion of &#8216;shrinking&#8217; is to confuse particular points with general rules. The GOP ought to be for smaller government, which allows specific rules to be made by local government. Common rules ought to apply to common, crossing-the-state issues.</p>
<p>This perspective has nothing to do with religion. Dave, I disagree &#8211; intellect is NOT morally neutral but necessarily moral. The &#8216;Golden Rule&#8217;is moral law that rests in the intellect not in any authoritarian metaphysical voice.</p>
<p>I disagree that weeding out the dross from the GOP leaves a host of religious, or other,  fanatics. Such views are peripheral not ground views and are found in both parties. In the Democratic party, such religious or dogmatic views, aka radical socialism, have now taken over that party.</p>
<p>The basic perspective of the GOP is rooted in the Constitution. This is the conservative view. Nothing more, nothing less. It is rooted in an insistence on individual freedom and responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: joe buzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Repubs. are failing to realize that they and the stances they assume are part of the problem, which exacerbates the problem. We must vet. all candidates. Do not be too quick to jump on a bandwagon. Thompson and Palin are attempting to start leading this neo-neocon push.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Repubs. are failing to realize that they and the stances they assume are part of the problem, which exacerbates the problem. We must vet. all candidates. Do not be too quick to jump on a bandwagon. Thompson and Palin are attempting to start leading this neo-neocon push.</p>
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