A Call to Arms for Parents Upset About Obama’s Public School Address
You need to understand that there are teachers, principals, and administrators who see themselves on a mission: to rescue students from the “provincial,” “backwards,” and ignorant parents of the progeny in their care.
You need to know what they are hearing at the National Education Association. From a 7/19/2009 column by Peter Heck, former NEA member:
It was indeed a heartwarming moment. With teachers, representatives, and affiliates to the National Education Association’s annual convention gathered around, the NEA’s retiring General Counsel Bob Chanin took to the stage to deliver his outgoing remarks. His inspiring and uplifting message asserted the profound commitment held by the NEA to the betterment of American society: “We are not paranoid, someone really is after us. Why are these conservative and right-wing b****rds picking on NEA and its affiliates? I will tell you why: it is the price we pay for success.”
Like most liberals, many liberal teachers see conservatives as evil and stupid. Posing as the tolerant class, they dehumanize and vilify those philosophically opposed to their political agenda. They will do their best to “deprogram” your children and convert them to the religion of liberalism.
We must work harder to stay informed, have the courage to go in to discuss classroom situations where teachers have gone too far, and gather like-minded people to work on specific projects that need addressing. We need to attend school board meetings and hold our members accountable. We need to run for school boards ourselves.
Above all, we must stop letting leftists define us and control the discussion.
I just completed 24 hours working successfully to make sure that Obama’s September 8 address to students would not interrupt Loudoun County’s first day of school. Though the speech will be canned for future use as teachers see fit, I find that a lot less threatening than 57,000 students plugged in to a totalitarian-type telecast. And I trust my own local teachers here to be fair-minded and conscientious in any future use of it.
In a neighboring county recently, a grassroots effort to overhaul the excruciatingly morbid selection of required books for middle and high schools was successful. All it took was a parent taking the time to read every book and cite specific content which was extremely objectionable.
Leftists would call this censorship — but when you’re talking about children 11 to 13, I call it discernment.
The key for parents is to take the time to find out from your kids what is going on in school. Ask good questions. My grandson says that his economics teacher is pushing ObamaCare — in other words, giving only one side of the argument and not equipping children to see both sides and think for themselves. My grandson will be gathering information calling ObamaCare into question. Our children need to be encouraged to learn how to debate and they need to see us as strong role models.
Be sure to let your teachers and principals know that you support their efforts and that you would never let political differences interfere with a mutually respectful relationship.
But above all, conservative parents who’ve remained in the closet need to come out now and prepare themselves to defend their schools and their children.
Day by day this POTUS shows his likeness not to Americans such as Polk and Jefferson, but to dictators such as Chavez and Mubarak; and he fills the land with dread, as he fills his administration with crooks.
“Why parents should lobby schools against broadcasting the president’s September 8 speech.”
You are right.
This speech should be given to the PARENTS. They need to know how things work.
And these parents are the ones who allow their children to spend COUNTLESS hours watching violent, sexually explicit, horror TV programming and idiotic cartoons.
Any observer can see how this country is reversing to the paranoid witch hunts of the 1950′s. Has anyone seen the date on their calendar?
The Beloved Leader Obama just wants to help the lost children to find their way to Nirvana. I would suppose that the next thing will be for the Beloved Leader Obama to ask children to report how their parents discuss “fishy” political issues at home so that his Stasi “community organizers” will be able to visit those parents to explain how the Beloved Leader Obama wants them to behave.
This is really an attempt to promote cultism and use Obama as the Jim Jones figure.
Unfortunately, the teaching world is already there and while some superb and dedicated individuals are sprinkled through every system, the unions place restrictions on their membership and on the school administrators alike that are essentially anti-child. For most of the membership it is easier to get along and go along…but the agenda is set by the leftist leadership.
Put into context of his Marxist background and Ayers’ connection, this is entirely too ominous. He cannot successfully sell his Obamacare fallacy to the adults, so let’s sell it to the kids. Of course the left’s argument is going to be, “What’s the harm?” or “It’s the President of the United States, aren’t you supposed to be patriotic or something?” Why yes, when taken out of context, they may be correct with those arguments, but life isn’t lived out of context. Moreover, the kids do not have the discernment and judgment, nor can escape the further encouragement and socialization that the curriculum, teacher, pictures, discussions and other nuance within the school that will occur. It’ll be subtle, innocuous but the end result is the same. I wouldn’t feel half bad if the Reagan 10min speech from 1961 on socialized medicine weren’t played immediately before or after Obama.
The hypocrisy of the left is enormous, if GWB would’ve done this–then whole school districts would be shut down and the NEA would revolt. You’re called on it now. Obama is merely trying to sell sugary cereal to the kiddos and packagin it up all nice to make it look okay. Only parents and people with an understanding of responsibility and long term outcomes will understand. The miscreants here that troll in support of obama take note that this is a key piece of evidence that strongly supports the homeschooling movement that is growing by thousands each year. The future of this country is in the hands of homeschoolers that are groomed with their talents in mind and God in their heart. I have faith that God and this incident will reveal that to many mothers and fathers this next week and that movement shall grow. There is nothing more precious than our children, and Obama is now akin to the drug dealer on the corner selling them something we don’t want them to have. Try as you might to defend him as a duly elected President but he’s trying to insert himself in between the parents and parents aren’t going to take that. Not his position. Not in this context.
I think it’s humorous to think that a 10 year old is going to care what Obama has to say.
However… right or wrong the guy is the President, I don’t like his policies so far, but I teach my children to be respectful… and I respect the position. There is nothing wrong in my opinion with the guy speaking, if he leave politics out of it, all the better, if he doesn’t then I will have a good opportunity for a dinnertime discussion with the kids. If someone thinks a 20 minute speach is going to be more powerful than the upbringing you are giving your kids… then you really should talk with your kids more.
Parents: keep your kids home September 8th.
“But above all, conservative parents who’ve remained in the closet need to come out now and prepare themselves to defend their schools and their children.”
Conservatives need to understand that liberals are like bag worms on crab apple trees. To keep them off you have to spray the tree in the Spring every year, not just one time expecting the problem to be permanently solved.
Nice, timely article Ms Curtis, thanks much.
If Bush had tried to politic with a captive audience of children the media would have gone nuts. Keep your children home in protest.
Boy, Republicans and conservatives in generalreally hate education and being well-informed these days. I suppose that goes to reason…..
‘Substitute the word “God” for “the President,” and it should be clear why something Obama supporters call benign is malignant to those who teach their children to put God and family first.’
Substitute the words “Silly Fool” for “Barbara Curtis” and it should be clear why this post is moronic.
Knowing the sensitivity of this issue, it looks like Axelrod/White House are trying to throw the attention off health care.
Watch what they release for “news” on Friday night as they close up shop for the weekend.
Is this communism, or what?
I called my son’s middle school yesterday about this. The first person I talked to was the school secretary, who told me she had not heard anything about this and knew nothing about whether the school would participate or not.
Now, I’ve been dealing with schools and other government-related organizations for many years and I can assure you the secretary is one of the FIRST to know what is going on. So the very first thing they tried to do was feed me a crock!
I requested a call from someone who sould know. The principal called me and his story was that they had not yet decided if they would participate! (Another crock!) Then he said the decision would be made at a staff meeting on Friday. When I pointed out that this would leave only Monday to notify parents and give them the opportunity to opt out he seemed non-plussed. I don’t think it had occurred to him to even offer parents the option to have their children shielded from this propaganda!
He said he would ensure that my son will not have to attend, whatever the decision is they make. We’ll see.
I told my son that if they start this program with him in the classroom he is to immediately report to the principal’s office; with or without permission! If it comes to that, after the principal promised me he would be allowed to leave, and if they try to punish my son they will have to answer to me!
All you parents out there; at every opportunity remind your schools (especially the administrators and those pompous “Dr. so-and-so’s”) that YOU are their bosses. Make it clear and make it stick! They might take their marching orders from Washington, but when you are standing in their office they cannot ignore you!
Take back your schools; take back your children!
Why so threatened? Civics is an important part of public education that rarely attracts such attention. There is no threat here. Students should address the role of the President as part of their education.
The truth is that a lot of righties are afraid of science & logic because their kids might see through the BS they get fed at home. A lot of Kindergarteners were upset to learn the true nature of Santa Claus, too. But that’s the real world.
Peace.
DS
A liberal totalitarian statist Nazi Sith conspiracy to brainwash your conservative children??
According to announcements posted on ServiceWire.org, Obama will address students “about the importance of persisting and succeeding in school” at 1 p.m. Eastern at the WhiteHouse.gov website.
See, that right there? That proves it! There is a conspiracy against the right wing!
Because clearly, if your children listen to the President, take his words to heart and actually pay attention, learn to read and write and apply critical thinking skills, they’re actually a lot less likely to read fine publications like World Nut Daily, Red State and Pajamas Media.
That is, except when they’re mining them for comedy gold, like this shiny little turd nugget of an article.
You are so wrong David S.
This is what parents are afraid of – and rightly so:
Obama Kids
It’s the Obama supporters own actions that betray them.
(I posted the same message on the other article on PJM about Obama’s “asking” to give a speech to all public school children)
First, what is creepy is that this has NEVER been done before. Why is Obama doing this? As others have noted, if it is just about “staying in school, working harder, and the value of education”, that message could have been done via commercials.
Commanding a good portion of a school day for the pre-discussion, getting the kids to the gym for the speech, post-speech talks about
“Why does President Obamaa want to speak with us today” and
“How will HE inspire us”
What is President Obama inspiring you to do”
that will be led by some teacher, whose political leanings I don’t know. How will this teacher add to the indoctrination?
Yes, Obama is the President, but he is also a politician, and this is an overt POLITICAL move into the government monopoly schools by him. It is creepy.
My solution is that my wife and I will allow our kids go to the speech, but we will take the time off of work to ask to be in the classroom during the post-speech teacher led discussion and work. If the school refuses, then we will not allow them to go to the speech, possibly keeping them out of school that day.
I have heard and read many funny things about Obama from conservatives. I have heard he’s a Muslim, He’s Kenyan, He belongs to a church that hates America and white people (why is Muslim Obama going to a Christian church?), he’s a facist, he’s a liberal, he’s a communist, he’s a marxist, he’s a racist, I’m sure I’ve forgotten a few other tasty tidbits.
But this is the first time I have heard that Obama should not speak to children.
I don’t see much chance for success on this “Don’t let the President of the United States speak to your children” boycott in the public schools. Any parents that are paranoid enough to fear their children listening to the President have already taken their children out of the public school system which hysterical people have been screaming against since long before Obama was born (wherever he was born).
“Above all, we must stop letting leftists define us and control the discussion.”
Exactly. *sigh*
Well said and well done, Ms. Curtis!
David S. makes a decent point here. Although my 7th grader doesn’t start school until the 9th, I would not keep him home. He is used to being surrounded by left-leaning public school baloney, so this would be another opportunity for him to analyze the situation for himself. He gets it. If we keep our kids home in protest, their is no dissenting thought in the classroom. Send your kids to school.
The reason these folks want to keep their kids home is understandable, though I doubt any liberal understands the real reasons why. It’s not fear, it’s trust. Let me explain: Mr. Obama’s actions and statements since his election have flown in the face of how he portrayed himself when he ran. It’s soaring deficit, cronyism, bail-outs, Cash for Clunkers, Cap and Trade and Health Care “reform” that will cost trillions of dollars – and people aren’t buying it anymore. The reason folks want to keep their kids home is that they don’t trust Mr. Obama not to take this opportunity to promote some political agenda. It’s that simple. They don’t trust him.
And that, dear friends, is the crux of the matter.
To WJ,
President Reagan addressed school children on TV about the evils of drugs. President Bush addressed school children about 9/11. President Obama will be addressing children about the importance of a good education, studying, staying in school, setting goals. It will be as appropriate in todays educational enviornment as the previous Presidents addresses. There won’t be any talk about health care, government spending, congress, whatever.
It won’t be any more political than the rest of the school day unless maybe getting an education is a polical issue. It is no more CREEPY than Reagan talking about drugs and Bush about terrorism.
I imagine that if you go watch this and take a deep breath you will say something like “Oh, that was ok”.
You can tell it’s important when the trolls get out of bed in the morning. I think Soros pays them time and a half to report to work before noon. It’s no fun trying to troll with cannabinol still in your veins.
Boy! Doesn’t this guy try at moment to creep from the position of elected president to the one of dictator! Countless attempts to slip & enforce his agenda outside the what his constitutional authority is – and to complement this latest shot at Hitlerjugend-isation of the country, I’ll remind you two other that occurred recently:
1) “dennounce thy ill-wishing neighbor” program of tracking “fishy e-mails” -
2) the NEA summoning the “American artists” on tax-payers money and urging them to “support” the president -
Instinct & design: Obama’s latest action shows, time and again, that he won’t have the slightest hesitation if offered the opportunity to secure his power by force – beware.
David s. Interesting that you bring up truth and logic in this as your premise for the presentent’s position. As history has shown, the presentent does NOT engage in truth, nor logic. Case in point, if you google “obama and strawmen” you’ll see many columns devoted to his repeated use of weak and fallacious arguing via this rhetorical tactic, a tactic antithetical to logic. He frequently mischaracterizes opponents positions through bald-faced lies, then appears as deus ex machina and the “reasonable man” by destroying the strawmen that he fallaciously constructs. Hence, your premise that Obama’s speech to the kiddos represents either “truth” or “logic” is in need of some further explanation, because it simply does not hold water. Moreover, put into greater context of the debate that he is losing, and losing badly, is clear indication that he can neither appeal to reason, nor logic, nor facts in advancing his position and must devolve his advance to demagoguery, mischaracterization and manipulation of a population who has limited ability to discern the nature of the presentent’s intentions in his requests.
Now, I fully support the presentent’s open call to hard work, study and good citizenship and believe that his speech to the NAACP was a good one in this arena. If there is one thing that young black males need these days it is someone who they can look up to who is educated, articulate and accomplished and if that motivates them to follow that same path–then, great, get going. However, the presentent has a distinctly marxist background and his associations support the position of using education as a vehicle to further their leftist pursuits. This position requires a vulnerable and malleable population and schoolchildren are a perfect example of that. More concerning, is that he is engaging a largely compliant NEA and liberal education system to do his bidding. In summary, the speech will largely be innocuous, but placed into the greater context of obama’s failure to appeal to truth and logic, as well as his marxist background and freefall in polling, we are right and prudent to criticize the Presentent’s motivation to engage the nation’s children with the sort of “candy” he’s selling. A parent’s gut instinct is to shield their children from people and influences that may be harmful to their health and welfare. This example is no different.
Keep up with the truth and logic premise though, it, like Obama, sounds great on the surface. However, when exposed to actual truth and logic it is left in smoking disarray, just as Obama’s arguments would be if he were actually exposed to questions, and followup questions.
How about this. Keep your kids home and watch the video together. This is a teaching opportunity and should not be wasted. This will also give you the opportunity to control the discussion and teach your kids about what is being said instead of some liberal teacher. And if the president does turn this into something political you can counter-act it or discuss how you feel about it and give them your opinion on whats being discussed.
Menu of Classroom Activities
President Obama’s Address to Students Across America
K-6th Grade
September 8, 2009
Before the Speech
Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama. Teachers could motivate students by asking the following questions:
Who is the President of the United States?
• We are not really sure who the president is because Mr. Obama won’t release a bunch of documents from his past. In fact he has spent over a million dollars to pay lawyers to keep these documents secret. (College records, Passport Records, Original birth certificate…etc.)
• A man with a lot of Radical and Communist friends.
What do you think it takes to be president?
• A corrupt, bias News Media that refuses to ask any difficult questions and only says good things about me?
• Supporters like George Soros with billions of dollars and very powerful friends
• The support of radical organizations like ACORN that are willing to break the law to get you more votes.
To whom do you think the president is going to be speaking?
• He will be speaking to the public school children of America to try and manipulate them into feeling an obligation to serve the government (He won’t say “the Government” though, he will say “the poor”, our “community”, “other people”).
Why do you think he wants to speak to you?
• Because children are impressionable and easy to manipulate
• If you are in a position of authority it is very easy to lie to children and have us believe you (because parents are always telling us to respect authority).
What do you think he will say to you?
• He will tell us how important it is to SERVE our country and community (He won’t say it out loud but what he really wants is to teach children to support his political ideas, most of which take money from hard working people)
• Maybe he will even tell us that the government (Which doesn’t do a very good job of running the post office) needs to run health care… and how great it is.
I’ve been grateful that the boy POTUS never seems to know when to shut up, but keeps on revealing himself for who he is. However, that gratitude springs from the hope (and I hope that my hope is not presumption!) that the response on the part of Americans to the revelation of the character of this despot in waiting will be to defeat him, remove him, impeach him, isolate him, STOP HIM.
If it turns out that his endlessly nauseating self-revelation is not used as reason to shut him down and remove him, then I guess he will get to play despot for real.
Soetero has GOT to be stopped.
(All of our grandchildren are suffering the first symptoms of Soetero flu. The crisis will apparently be experienced next Tuesday, so they’re all just gonna have to stay home from school–poor dears. It’s expected that they will be feeling much better by Wednesday morning…)
David S – ‘truth is that a lot of righties are afraid of science & logic..’
Really? Please, do share with the current administration’s attempts of reaching across the aisle and discussing Climate Change with anti Man-Made Global Warming scientists with the likes of John Holdren.
Or how about tenured pro intelligent design professors in academia. How about tenured professors who entertain the discussion of intelligent design only for discussions sake?
How about the ‘bipartisan’ practices the Obama administration is extending to Republican drafts of health care reform.
‘Logic’.. so you’re insinuating Speaker Pelosi, who possesses a lower approval rating than GWB all-time lowest approval rating, Connecticut Representatives playing solitaire during budget discussions, California’s Peter Stark blowing up during an interview recently, NY’s Rangel dodging taxes et al. is ‘logic’?
Sure, there are plenty of Republicans currently to jab at as well. Your commenting the Democratic Party practicing ‘Logic’ is pure fantasy.
Please don’t use emotion on subjects which warrant more diligent comments.
I have wavered on whether or not to send my kids to high school and middle school on that day. I have spoken with them about the “campaign commercial” Obama will be broadcasting that day. I have also told them to let me know if their teacher’s agenda for the time after is one of politically left leaning claptrap. My 6th grader is already rolling her eyes at what this speech will be.
I do not have a problem with a current or former President airing a message that supports our kids in their endeavors. But it should end there. If the teachers want to then discuss the issue raised, it should be done without any reference to the President. So let them discuss why they should stay in school, but do not tie it to what they can do for President Obama. Which is what the “study guidelines” were advising the teachers to do. At least until the White House took that part out.
But I agree, why can’t it be a commercial aired on all the kid’s channels leading up to the first day of school. My kids have been back for 3 weeks now.
I couldn’t agree more. My son was assigned a “protest project” and the teacher, predictably handed out guidelines that included suggested topics such as global warming and poverty – my son’s chosen topic was the unconstitutionality of welfare
and I think he did a good job of making his fellow students consider a different point of view. If our kids must be in public school, I agree that we should do all of the things suggested above and fight for their well being, and also teach the older children to fight back and advocate for conservative principles, a perspective they are not likely to hear much of from most of their peers.
VIVO SAID: And these parents are the ones who allow their children to spend COUNTLESS hours watching violent, sexually explicit, horror TV programming and idiotic cartoons.
Any observer can see how this country is reversing to the paranoid witch hunts of the 1950’s. Has anyone seen the date on their calendar?
AAH Dear Vivo its liberal networks who create these programs you damm, and the only folks on a witch hunt are folks like the ACLU and their like minded zealots. So Vivo go back to sleep! and check your 6 on the way!
Imagine your children being quarantined in a school with these teachers and video’s at their disposal!!!!!!!
Cash for Clunkers Dealerships got a shocker when their computers told them they belonged to the government now.
What’s next? Parents of children who are ‘using the public school system’…your children belong to the government now.
Response to #22 vomit something:
Below is an item regarding Arne Duncan (Secretary of Education) saying it is the first time this has happened. If you want to call Obama’s Secretary of Education either ignorant or stupid, that is your business.
“In his letter to principals, Duncan said viewing of the speech is encouraged, not mandatory. It’s the first time a president has ever given a speech addressed directly to students.”
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26711.html
I guess I was not clear, I am less concerned about the speech than all of the activities the Dept. of Education sent out for teachers to talk about Obama for possibly days.
More details from this posting: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090903064435AAlgdWH
This are just some examples of what should be happening in the classroom:
Menu of Classroom Activities
President Obama’s Address to Students Across America
(Grades 7‐12)
Produced by Teaching Ambassador Fellows, U.S. Department of Education September 8, 2009
Before the Speech…
“Teachers may engage students in short readings. Teachers may post in large print around the classroom notable quotes excerpted from President Obama’s speeches…”
Menu of Classroom Activities
President Obama’s Address to Students Across America
(PreK‐6)
Produced by Teaching Ambassador Fellows, U.S. Department of Education September 8, 2009
During the Speech
“Students could record important parts of the speech where the president is asking them to do something. Students might think about the following:
What specific job is he asking me to do?
Is he asking anything of anyone else?
Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?”
You guys are almost giving Obama too much credit if you think in one speech about how students should study hard, he’s going to manage to recruit your kids for the Shining Path.
H.W. Bush and Reagan both addressed school kids. I had to sit through both. No one made a fuss back then.
The knee jerk reaction to Obama on this would be comical if it wasn’t so ridiculous and sad.
22. barf-o-saurus:
The creepy part is the pre-prepped spin that the teachers will pour into the little ones heads. The glorification of the One by the NEA is hard to swallow at the best of times. Just review the talking points that they want to address with he kids and you can see how this will play out.
Sort of ironic to see a man who spent a significant part of his youth cutting class and doing drugs (by his own admission) and then getting a race-based pass on higher education lecturing our kids about staying in school and studying hard. Nothing in his background reflects that sort of commitment. Nothing in his background reflects hard work and achievement, he has simply moved from one half-finished job to another.
I am certain that I don’t want my kids following his example.
DAVID S.(talinist)VIVIOT,and other supporters of brainwashing children:This is a great “teaching moment”.You can use this attempt at state indoctrination of children,by turning off the volume,and then playing a recording of Pee Wee Herman,Monty Python’s retarded Mr. Gumby,Curly, from the three stooges,or similar clownish figures,while the O’hole reads his teleprompter.This would serve as a useful exercise in ridiculing this pathetic,affirmative action,castro wannabe,using ridicule to inoculate children from this con man’s lies.
Hmmm… looks like this post didn’t take. I’ll try again.
By the way, kids can be smarter than you think. Any parent who asks their kid, “Where did you here that swear word?”, understands this. Kids pick up on things they here more than we realize. I’ve heard that kids learn most of the information they need to survive between ages 5 and 12 and that this is where they are most impressionable. Anyone who thinks that a political speech will not get picked up by young children I think doesn’t understand them.
36. Middleman: “H.W. Bush and Reagan both addressed school kids. I had to sit through both. No one made a fuss back then. The knee jerk reaction to Obama on this would be comical if it wasn’t so ridiculous and sad.”
I disagree. The knee-jerk hatred of the President is comical precisely because it is so ridiculous and sad.
It might be acceptable for the President of the US to address school children in times of dire national emergencies. But Obama intends to speak about topics such as staying in school, working hard, etc. Those are matters that are the responsibility of the parents, and Mr. Obama is attempting to usurp their role. Why?
As Pink Floyd said (more or less)
Hey!
Preacher!
Leave us kids alone!
You wouldn’t be complaining if Bush were doing this. I highly suspect that this is because the President is an African-American Democrat.
There is no “knee-jerk hatred” of this President. There is a lot of very well researched and thought out concerns about how he is managing our country. Mrs. Curtis does a wonderful job explaining exactly why this sort of student address is inappropriate. I find it humerous that not a single liberal poster has responded to any of her concerns. Instead they just say “LOL U R DUMB!”
I hope that conservatives don’t go for the head fake on this one. This “children’s address” looks like something that White House tacticians have cooked up to divert attention from the health care debate and other grown-up issues. They want an overreaction to this so that they can recoil in horror and gasp that those on the Right are “anti-children.”(This is a favorite Democratic gambit.) If Obama’s address is just some anodyne collective head-pating about “staying in school” and “don’t do drugs” than I say let it go. If he uses it to pitch specific policy proposals at the kids to “discuss with their parents” then all hell should break loose. I don’t have kids but, if I did, I would follow the advice of several of the posters here and ask the school to be allowed to sit in on the speech and the follow-up discussion. If this request was refused I would keep my kid home that day.
I’m as right wing as they come and I see no problem with this as long as he doesn’t politicize. Of course, my kids are not in under-performing public schools so I don’t have to worry about them seeing this.
41. Nancy Reagan thought it was alright to bombard us time and again with her Don’t Do Drugs message. Perhaps my parents should have told her to shut her mouth. Then again, they aren’t paranoid lunatics.
I don’t see how in the world the president of the country, be he right or left, telling children something as universal as to study hard and to excel in school, somehow is now divisive.
If Obama’s address is just some anodyne collective head-pating about “staying in school” and “don’t do drugs” than I say let it go.
You don’t understand.
What he says is irrelevant. The intent is to provide an opportunity for liberal Democrat teachers to wax sycophantic on Dear Leader and his policies. It’s not the few minutes of the speech that matter, it’s the discussion afterwards where the damage is done. Remember, the speech is intended just to be one part of a teaching unit. What, exactly, do you think the administration REALLY wants the kids to be discussing? Remember, there is an extremely high probability that any school administration which approves of this is exactly the same kind of administration inclined to ‘lead’ discussions on to matters of the day.
And there will be more Dear Leader speeches if there is no resistance to this one.
Seniors in high school will be voting in 2010, and the juniors and sophomores will be voting in 2012. Obama wants to make this a regular thing, like he makes all his other Orwellian appearances. The man can’t win an election without supermajorities in the 18-29 demographic.
Everything Obama does it political — EVERYTHING.
Obama has painted himself into the corner of mistrust. He became the enigma man by sealing all his records, supposedly because he didn’t want to boast of his superior intellect, that has yet to be employed. His exposure to radicals and communists during his formative years. Surrounding himself with admitted Communists in his administration. Being incapable of putting forth a logical argument without his teleprompter and we still don’t know who is keying in the teleprompter. His promises to fund his own civilian militia with the same armament and funding as our military. (The big question is why?) The government funding of a criminal partisan political group like Acorn. These are the Obama factors that we are aware of, the ones that we are not aware of are probably even more despicable.
Totalitarian indoctrination of the Progressive Marxist isn’t an over night affair, it is accomplished incrementally and slowly over time.
The washing of the brain is a delicate process.
Obama like Chavez was elected and like Chavez he has no intention of relinquishing control. He has no hope of regaining a foothold of power among Conservatives or most independents, so he is reaching out to the youth. If Acorn can manipulate his reelection in 2012 the youth would be a huge segment of the population by 2016. FDR has already proven that you can be elected for life and that is the plan of every Orwellian Marxist in power. Power for life, oh excuse me “Service” for life.
Thank you for your service to Freedom, Barbara; please continue your stand against tyranny.
Umm…..far be it from me to point something this obviouso to teh Party of Angry Old White People…..but forbidding Obama to your kids is just going to make him that much more irresistably attractive to them.
But good luck with that.
ditto with trying to get teachers not to show it.
Academe is painted blue.
You can’t “take culture back” until you take academe back.
I don’t think this is a diversion tactic by the Progressives. I think they are stunned and surprised repeatedly, especially this last couple months that moderate and conservative people aren’t laying down like sheep anymore.
By calling us brown shirts and mobs and terrorists they crossed the line and will pay the price next November. They will find the road to spreading the Progressive Cancer much harder from here on out.
I would encourage everyone, not just parents, to log on and watch the “speech.” I want to see what is said, and if enough people log on, there may be the added benefit of overwhelming the server providing the video.
“42. DerekP:
You wouldn’t be complaining if Bush were doing this. I highly suspect that this is because the President is an African-American Democrat.
Sep 3, 2009 – 9:47 am”
Disagree with Obama = Racist!
OK, I get it.
I’d take this blogger seriously when she comes out opposing compulsory school prayer and the pledge of allegiance.
Why the paranoia? Do none have faith in your values and in your upbringing of your children? What’s wrong with you?
President Obama is THE president, just like former presidents HW Bush, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, etc. How did a president who lives in the 21st century, using the same technology you’re all using, speaking to our children about studying, good grades….? And if I recall wasn’t former president George Bush having students read to him on the morning of 9/11 at a grade school in Florida. What IS ‘My Pet Goat’ really about? Was that propaganda?
I feel like I’m watching ‘Chicken Little’ on the big screen.
52. It’s not disagreeing with Obama that brings up suspicion. It’s the whole concoction of wildly baseless bordering on paranoid-schizophrenia lunatic ravings about where he was born, what religion he is, and what he believes that are raising the suspicions.
I have yet to hear any arguments based on facts about Obama. It’s never about spending money that’s not there. It’s all about race, religion, and socialism. Socialism obviously a concept many people don’t really seem have a grasp on as they take advantage of socialist concepts such as public schools, interstate highways, the intercoastal waterway, and other public works and government programs Americans both left and right take advantage of daily.
Socialism? It’s been here already!
7. J.J. Sefton:
“Parents: keep your kids home September 8th.”
At home they will watch C-SPAN.
They will watch on their i-Phones.
Next day, kids will talk about it.
42. DerekP:
“You wouldn’t be complaining if Bush were doing this. I highly suspect that this is because the President is an African-American Democrat.”
Bush did something similar on September 11, 2001.
Time to watch that video again?
According to a caller on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show today, the worksheets–specifically the detailed for Grades 7-12–ask poll oriented questions; for example, one question asks to pick the 3 most important words from Obama’s speech. Aside from the brainwashing & indoctrination, Obama is abusing his authority as President of the United States to ask poll questions to juveniles. The subversion is high. President Obama deserves the scorn he & his people have created with this controversy. He needs to back off from his speech to impressionable children. Once more the unions are the source for the Obama propaganda in the Teacher’s Union & Department of Education.
I’m happy to let Obama address the nation’s schoolkids if equal time is given to the Supreme Court and to the Congress. We have three branches of government, Legislative, Executive, and Judicial. Neither is more important than the other.
That’s what our kids should be taught. That’s what mine have been taught.
Watching Dear Leader tapes is torture!!!11
paul_unalaska:
Or how about tenured pro intelligent design professors in academia. How about tenured professors who entertain the discussion of intelligent design only for discussions sake?
Intelligent design is not science. It’s response to any unanswered question is “It must be god”. What would be next? Teaching that bushes and snakes can talk? Teaching that the earth is flat?
This is classic misdirection! There is something else that is happening on September 8, 2009.
Something of Interest, posted elsewhere on the Net:
“Discovery hearing re. Obama’s Kenyan BC, request for depositions of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates scheduled for September 8th, 8am.
08/21/2009 44 MINUTES OF IN CHAMBERS ORDER by Judge David O. Carter: ORDER SETTING SEPTEMBER 8, 2009 HEARING ONMOTIONS: (See document for
details.) In summary, the Court sets for hearing at 8:00 a.m. on September 8, 2009, (1) the Discovery Motion, (2) the Service Notice, and (3) the Ex Parte Application. All parties are ordered to be present. The Clerk shall serve this minute order on all parties to the action. (rla) (Entered: 08/21/2009)
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MISTER PEANUT!
Send your kids to school with a Mister Peanut doll or a photo of Mister Peanut.
Dick Armey was an Economic professor at my alma mater, up until he decided that leading zombie armies of astroturfers was much more lucrative.
RE; THE ‘I PLEDGE’ VIDEO
Now my case is raised,…now everyone of you out there understand what I mean.
FORGET THE ‘QUESTION TO THE STUDENTS’ / THE ‘WRITING EXERCISE’ AFTER THE AUDIO-VISUAL EVENT,….WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THEIR BRAINS SHOULD A SUBLIMINAL SIGNAL IS ENDUCED IN THEIR NEURO-PATH THROUGH THE AUDIO-VISUAL TRANSMISSION? …..Just out of curiousity, get some info on this, will you? It is not science-fiction or nothing of the sort,…this is serious.
SUBLIMINAL TECHNIQUE
As EVERYONE KNOWS, this administration is ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL, ANTI-MERICAN and so, ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE / ENEMY OF THE STATE, TERRORISTS FRIENDLY-ORIENTED, AND MEGA- CORRUPTED.
An addition , EVERYONE KNOWS that the individuals in different areas are SOCIALISTS / COMMUNISTS MILITANTS, PROMOTERS OF EUTHANASIA AND GENOCIDE, not to mention TOTALY IRRESPONSIBLE WHEN COMES TO NATIONAL DEFENSE.
For they are proven so ruthless and DISRESPECTFUL TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC , it will not be of surprise that there is A PHASE INSIDE THIS MASTER PLAN OF DESTRUCTION OF OUR COUNTRY which consist of SUBLIMINAL TECHNIQUES TO IMPLANT INDOCTRINATION ON PROPAGANDA OF ANTI-AMERICAN NATURE IN THE MINDS OF OUR CHILDREN.
Very scary, I know. Too speculative? I don’t think so!
Liste-up and wise-up people, ; WE DON’T TRUST THEM IN ECONOMY, SOCIO-DYNAMICS, NATIONAL SECURITY, FISCAL RESPONSABLILITY….MUCH LESS WE CANNOT TRUST THEM REGARDING OUR CHILDREN.
The children of america, the future for strength and advancements, OUR CHILDREN ARE AT STAKE! We have to PROTECT THEM FROM ANY DANGER,… FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC!,,,FOR NOTHING , ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTAN THAT OUR CHILDREN – THEY ARE OUR GREAT COUNTRY.
In conclussion;… Do I pledge?,… Oh!, AFIRMATIVE! And what is my pledge? ;
- I DO PLEDGE TO WORK HARD AND VOTE IN 2010 AND 2012 FOR THE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THE CORRUPTED ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE / ENEMIES OF THE STATE, THOSE TRAITORS THERE IN WASHINGTON, THAT ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS THE OBAMA CHICAGO-STYLE CORRUPTED ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL, ANTI-AMERICAN AND TERRORIST FRIENDLY-ORIENTED BAND OF INDIVIDUALS NOT DESRVING OF THE TRUST OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC – I PLEDGE LIKE THIS FOR I AM A TRUE AMERICAN PATRIOT.
Who would like to pledge similar?,… input anyone?
GOD BLESS OUR GREAT COUNTRY!
And so it goes;
Respectfully,
Daniel Cabrera
Merrillville,Indiana
To you ‘thick as a brick’ Liberals out there, the harm is in the precident this sets, the Liberal teachers framing the in-class discussions, and the ‘focus group’ data to be collected. A close second is the obvious head fake away from the seriously ill-conceived policies and agendas promoted by this administration. By not allowing your kids to sit in on this BS, you’ll remove the Socialist’s propaganda platform, and take advantage of a real ‘teachable moment’ to impart a little truth about this poser and his intentions. No objective, observant individual trusts Obama any longer, so I suppose we’ll just have to wait for the Democrat holdouts to finally come around to the truth about the Wizzard of Uhs.
Sunnstarr, that’s quite a coincidence, isn’t it?
Under the ObamaCare plan, Mr. Cabrera would be given the psychiatric care he desparately needs.
Maybe you idiots who compare Reagan giving speeches to schoolchildren can name me how many Weather Underground terrorists he had in his educational background? None. Obama the imposter moslem communist has nothing BUT anti american hate mongers like Bill Ayers(who by the way, just returned from meeting with the COMMUNIST CHAVEZ IN VENEZUELA) Mark Ruud, Van Jones, and the punk who wrote the stimulus package, the actual FOUNDER of the Weather Underground. If any of you “moderates” have no clue what the Weather Underground or Hugo Chavez is, I suggest you go to South Florida and ask a Cuban immigrant or maybe a Vietnamese immigrant from the 70s who left communist Vietnam on rickety boats ,risking death just to escape. Of course,thats not important right? Finding out who replaces Paula Abdul on american idol means more than your grandchildren going broke does right? Remember what happens to “middle of the roaders”-THEY GET RUN OVER.
My Daughter has already informed me and my wife her and her husband will NOT be allowing my grandson (age 7) to attend school the day the moslem communist attempts to brainwash OUR FUTURE GENERATIONS with his HATE America Communist claptrap. Furthermore, my daughter informed the school that ANY attempt to use this against her by ANY teacher WILL result in my grandsons withdrawl from indoctrinated schools and home schooling,even if she has to quit her job(shes a weather FORECASTER ,by the way). I hope MILLIONS of other parents adopt such an attitude, what this scumbag is attempting to do is USE OUR OWN CHILDREN AGAINST US.
It’s very clear that the POTUS has no clear idea of setting priorities.
Let’s see:
1. Spread my message to young school children.
2. Play golf.
3. Vacation.
4. Play golf.
5. Promote Nancy’s health care plan
6. More golf.
7. Meet with Middle Eastern leaders
8. Vacation
9. Photo op for dinner date with Michelle.
10. Seriously work on U.S. economy
One of the aspects of this that I am very curious about is, why can’t I, as a parent, see a copy of the speech before hand? At the beginning of every school year I know which math book, civics book, reading book, etc. will be used. I can choose to either go through them or not, but I have the opportunity.
Now, my child is getting a lesson from the PRESIDENT, and I am not allowed the opportunity to review this lesson prior to it being given. That does make me wonder what it contains.
Another aspect of this, which I feel can be an even bigger issue, is the pre and post speech discussions within the classroom. We teach our children to respect their teachers and listen to what they have to say. That is mostly because they are teaching them FACTS. Now they are expecting our children, who most of them have never given much, if any thought to politics, to discern whether their teacher is now espousing facts, or espousing their OPINION.
In my opinion, there is a very good reason this is unprecedented in US History. And not only a speech, but an accompanying lesson plan. Wow, just wow.
btw, just received my childs “opt out form”. Funny thing is, if it is NOT returned, they will assume they have my permission for my child to participate. Typically, for any extra curricular activity, they assume my child MAY NOT participate unless permission is given.
For goodness sake, if the guy can convince a few more students to stay in school and start caring about their education, give him a chance.
Check out http://detentionslip.org for this, and more crazy headlines from our schools.
#71 Hall Monitor.Obama is not interested in education,just libtard brainwashing.Besides,Education,and the Phrase”American Public Schools”,constitute an oxymoron.
uncommon nut,
The popular rock band, Rage Against the Machine, has been using blatant communist symbolism since they’ve been together as a group. If they haven’t been able to turn America’s teenagers into little Trotskys and Lenins, then I highly doubt President Obama, aka “moslem communist” (which if you’d have a clue you’d know muslims don’t like communists either), will have much success either.
It is not the speach as much as the suggested exercises in the lesson plan and the emphasis on the “President” which was frightening. Children should be accountable and responsible to their parents alone. Young children especially should not be made to feel responsible for their friends, community, country or the President. Many have parents struggling with unemployment, mortgage issues, and other family problems. They are having enough trouble being children; they do not need more pressure to be miniture adults.
It should have been an address at a time when PARENTS could watch with their own children if they wanted to do so.
Before you keep your children home, please find out if your child’s teacher or school is even showing the speech. Many are not. There are plenty of other worthwhile topics to discuss and skills to practice. One lost day may not seem like much, but we only get a short amount of time with the students anyway.
If they can’t tell you one way or another about showing the speech, then you have a choice to make, of course. If it’s not about the speech, but about the protest, please try to open a positive communication with your child’s teacher about your decision.
What do we expect? Our kids have been taught what to think in the government’s labor union operated schools for more than 40 years. Obama is the first presidential product of this type of education. He thinks he is doing a good thing here and this will make America’s children better citizens. I believe most of our brainwashed society thinks this is a good thing too. Some of them will even think this is a lesson in civics(see #14 and #21 above). You can’t start too early in a child’s life to involve him in all things political. We should just go ahead and give 6 year olds the right to vote, you know?
September 8th. Hearing in Judge Carter’s chambers on Barack’s eligibility. He is a former Marine Judge, who said he understands the importance of Constitutional eligibility. He has ordered all parties to be there, and to have there papers in order. He did not dismiss it. Let’s hope the curtain starts getting peeled back this day on Mr. Obama. Before he can speak to school children, I would like to see his school records. George W Bush released his, his IQ is 130, what is Baracks IQ, and where are his school records? Registered as a foreign student perhaps? Too many radical writings perhaps? He is just one big question mark.
CROSS POSTED ON THE OTHER THREAD:
The bit about writing letters to themselves and then following up on them later smacks of something I’ve heard before…
Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals:
The intent of this is seriously demented and intended to damage the young ones’ self-esteem, long-term, should they, after discussing what they write with their parents, decide that they wrote in haste. I think this is monstrous!
Who would you rather send your kid on a camping trip with – Obama or a Catholic priest?
How thoughtful and peace-loving, Northern Light and other peaceful, sophiscaticated people.
I’m curious. How often did you go out and spread the love when the democrats were painting Bush as “hitler”? Or said a WORD in defense of Dick Cheney? in the name of temperate, judicious,and peace-loving approach to life, of course.
64. DANIEL CABRERA:
Diagnosis: paranoia
Cure: stop watching right-wing propaganda.
2nd opinion: 66. Middleman
72. deguello:
Your commas and periods are getting squeezed. Looks like that’s how your brain works. Open your ming!
80. Immy Grant:
“How often did you go out and spread the love when the democrats were painting Bush as “hitler”? Or said a WORD in defense of Dick Cheney?”
Do criminals and liars deserve it?
Hands down, the best line of the month of August: “Obama’s puffed up popularity has fallen like a souffle”
The gall of these cowards hiding behind their children to make their points.
Holy smoke! The troll-fu is strong with this post. That shows there is a higher power controlling the narrative. The DNC.
I ask again, vivo, (hey where was moho? too stoned?) et al – If us Conservatives here are so dumb, why do you keep hanging around?
84. Robohobo:
“If us Conservatives here are so dumb, why do you keep hanging around?”
I have answered that several times, here it goes again:
Some are smart and have good points, I hv learned a few things. Others are sooo out of their minds it’s hilarious or pathetic. Besides, the site is well laid out, easy to read. Congratulations PJM!
Curious.Calls to stop watching right wing propaganda.What?As opposed to left wing dominated media?If i want to hear from the Left (and i do) i turn on the TV because they are everywhere.Right wing talking points i have to get from the internet.
Furthermore im not loyal to Obama or any of his cohorts in Washington.Thats Communism/Fascism.Brain dead hollywood thinks its a good thing to pledge alligence to one person?Not going to happen.
Republicans should use Obama’s speech as a teaching moment…
http://hyphenatedamericans.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-is-becoming-easy-target-for.html
We should all be aware of Obama’s signature educational venture; his four plus years as the Director of the Annenberg Challenge in Chicago, where, in four years of daily work with Annenberg in Chicago founder, Communist, and unrepentant urban terrorist Bill Ayers, Obama steered $100 million dollars (some say $200 million or more)–examining grant proposals; selecting some, rejecting others–to far left radical groups and black identity politics organizations, while stiff-arming grant proposals from mainstream educational organizations which focused on things like math and reading improvement in the abysmal Chicago public school system.
What kind of grant proposals did Obama favor?
As with all things Obama, this period of his life and his actions are obscured by layer upon layer of fog and records are sealed or had to find, but according to what those researching the Challenge papers–just recently opened up for scrutiny—have found so far, some grant money went to:
The Rev. Jeremiah “God Damn America” Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ to carry on; no doubt, their Marxist-based, racist, anti-white and anti-Jew, but pro-Muslim “Black Liberation Theology” oriented church work.
Money also went to the Arab American Action Network, run by Obama’s friend and “ex-PLO operative” Rashid Khalidi.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars went to the “Small Schools Workshop,” founded by Ayers in 1992 and run by hard core Maoist Mike Klonsky, a former SDS radical and close friend of Ayers, to run a “Peace School.”( http://tinyurl.com/6qxr7v)
The “South Shore Village Cooperative” won money to teach school teachers how to celebrate “Juneteenth,” a June 19 holiday celebrating the abolition of slavery in Texas. Said the grant application,
“Negroes celebrate Juneteenth instead of the Fourth of July, as their national independence day.”
But a grant application from the Chicago Algebra Project was rejected.
In other words, Obama, who was in charge of grant selection, gave money for many far left, ideologically and Black identity oriented programs, like the teaching of Juneteenth as a substitute for Blacks for the 4th of July but other, more straightforward proposals, just geared to academic improvement, like the Chicago Algebra Project, were turned down.
Both outside observers and those involved in this Challenge had to admit afterward that this enormous expenditure of money resulted in absolutely no discernable improvement– in any way—in the abysmal Chicago public school systems the Challenge was supposed to reform and reinvigorate.
Perhaps bill Ayers view of education can best be summed up by a November 2006 speech he gave in Venezuela, when in approving Marxist President Hugo Chavez “education reforms” Ayers declared, “La educacion es Revolucion!”( http://tinyurl.com/696u2y). I suspect that this is Obama’s view too, and that is why he should not be allowed to address our children.
“Children, before I begin, let’s all stand and face your President for the pledge of allegiance…..
We pledge allegiance to “The One”
for the deconstruction of America,
and to the Republic we hope to change:
one Nation under debt,
Islamicized,
with dependency and bankruptcy for all.”
As voters realize the emperor has no clothes, Obama’s poll numbers are plummeting, and he realizes his fawning, adoring base is falling apart. He needs to find new bodies to repopulate his personality cult.
Thus, like Michael Jackson, he turns to those who can be manipulated by his charm the easiest, children, to feed his fragile, narcicisstic ego.
This is just creepy.
~ The Infidel Alliance
P.S. – What do you want to bet part of his speech includes a reference to tolerance of and the great contributions of Islam in America?
When a King rules a nation through righteousness the people rejoice. When a King rules through wickedness the people groan. Looks like we haven’t had a righeous leader now for a very long time.
Missouri said Chuck you Farley!
56 more states to say no way Jose and all will be well, fine and will obamaproof our kids
As most people have probably noticed by now, the left is again trying the Alisnky rule of “ridicule” to opponents of this, just as they’ve been trying to do with Tea Party people. Dress it up in nice sounding feel-good language and then call anyone who objects a meanie and a loon.
That’s a tell-tale signature every time that the objections and suspicions are well-founded.
VIVO: Stop squeezing yourself;it won’t cure your VD:try penicillin.
#83 MOHO: Hiding behind children? You mean like Obama,trying to proselytize grade schoolers?
HEY! LIBTARD! LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!
The President wants to tell our children to stay in school, work hard, succeed in life, become comfortable telling politicians their thoughts. So the immediate reaction of the far out right wing is Keep the kids out of school. makes sense to them I guess. That way they can have a family activity like watching cartoons and the soaps.
I’m sending my kids to school on the 8th, speech or no speech. It really doesn’t matter to me what the President talks about, because it’s either going to be a generic “be cool, stay in school” message or he’s going to politicize it. If he politicizes it, my daughter will make sure to set her friends straight afterward. If there’s a classroom discussion, my kids know how to talk sense. They need practice persuading others to their point of view. And I want them to know what a creepy totalitarian vibe feels like, so they know what to avoid in the future. Don’t worry, I’ll make sure that my kids have a nice preamble and post-discussion from their parents. We’ll watch this video today.
You have hit the nail on the head. Very well said. Thanks from a mom and teacher.
I am a teacher at a middle school. I consider myself an independant and try my best to sort through both sides of each argument before having an opinion. Those opinions are never shared with my students. Every teacher I know takes their job very seriously. Though it may be impossible to eliminate all bias from any discussion, we understand it as our duty to give both sides of issues during discussions. When I heard about the uproar of parents regarding this speech, I jumped online and started reading through conservitive blogs to hear the arguments against showing the speech. I must admit that no matter how hard I try, I cannot understand the point of view that the president is an evil man bent on the destruction of America. I don’t believe he is a terrorist. I don’t think his is a communist, or a Marxist. I’ve done the research and just don’t see the evidence.
I will be watching this address with my students with their parents permission. We will have a discussion in which I will moderate between the students, asking question to promote and encourage thought, and making sure all students feel safe to voice their true feelings. That is my job, and that is what I’ve been trained to do.
I don’t understand the villafying of public education by some posters. The NEA is nothing to me but a sender of junk mail. They don’t control me, my teaching, or my political leanings. Though there are admittedly more lefties than righties at my school, you wouldn’t know it by sitting in their classrooms. A collegue of mine who teaches US history lead a discussion after Obama’s Innauguration Speech. This guy is the shining image of bleeding heart liberal and is proud of it. I had a planning period so I sat in to see how the students would react. His students were so well trained at the skill of group discussion and debate, that he said not one word for 30 minutes. Those kids had the most thoughtful, careful discussion I had ever heard from a group of 12 year olds. It was inspiring to me and I learned a lot from them.
Point is, educators are professionals who go through many years of college in order to pursue their goals of educating the youth of our country. Do you really think we are all a bunch of leftist puppets who waist your childrens’ time trying to promote the presidents politics?
Sorry for the long post. I just had a lot of reactions to this discussion.
Cheers