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		<title>By: deguello</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/912-tea-parties-galvanized-by-health-care-reform/#comment-398716</link>
		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24:NOW AND THEN:Oh I see, if it doesn&#039;t have affirmative action tokens to make you feel good,and patronize, a political movement lacks legitimacy.Very deep! Last time I looked, there were few  if any,nonwhite faces when we wrote the constitution,won our independence, or freed the slaves during the civil war.I guess these efforts weren&#039;t worthy because they didn&#039;t meet your minority quotas.What crap! We  are creating a resistance infrastructure that will utterly crush you.Enjoy your libtard fantasy while you can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24:NOW AND THEN:Oh I see, if it doesn&#8217;t have affirmative action tokens to make you feel good,and patronize, a political movement lacks legitimacy.Very deep! Last time I looked, there were few  if any,nonwhite faces when we wrote the constitution,won our independence, or freed the slaves during the civil war.I guess these efforts weren&#8217;t worthy because they didn&#8217;t meet your minority quotas.What crap! We  are creating a resistance infrastructure that will utterly crush you.Enjoy your libtard fantasy while you can.</p>
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		<title>By: deguello</title>
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		<dc:creator>deguello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Praetorian:Good handle;you named yourself after the armed thugs who enforced the psychotic fantasies of criminally-demented Roman Emperors.These thugs sold out their and their countrymen&#039;s liberty for loot:sort of like you and your welfare checks.Oh, and leave the constitution alone,it wasn&#039;t meant for welfare parasites, but for free men.We are going to neuter you,same as we are neutering your Caligula of a president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praetorian:Good handle;you named yourself after the armed thugs who enforced the psychotic fantasies of criminally-demented Roman Emperors.These thugs sold out their and their countrymen&#8217;s liberty for loot:sort of like you and your welfare checks.Oh, and leave the constitution alone,it wasn&#8217;t meant for welfare parasites, but for free men.We are going to neuter you,same as we are neutering your Caligula of a president.</p>
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		<title>By: Delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>N&amp;T, just how many &#039;black&#039; people are &#039;independents&#039; and didn&#039;t vote for 0bama?

How many Jews are &#039;Liberals&#039;?

The Dem&#039;s are having their wet dreams so the idea of hard-line Democrats showing up protesting the crap that 0bama is doing is st00pid to even expect it.

You sure are obsessed with skin color. Don&#039;t forget your prezzie poo is have white-devil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N&amp;T, just how many &#8216;black&#8217; people are &#8216;independents&#8217; and didn&#8217;t vote for 0bama?</p>
<p>How many Jews are &#8216;Liberals&#8217;?</p>
<p>The Dem&#8217;s are having their wet dreams so the idea of hard-line Democrats showing up protesting the crap that 0bama is doing is st00pid to even expect it.</p>
<p>You sure are obsessed with skin color. Don&#8217;t forget your prezzie poo is have white-devil.</p>
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		<title>By: Inrptrn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inrptrn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is no reasoning with these people. They literally need to be beaten down because that’s all they understand.&quot;

Sums up race-baiting, wards of the state, leftists perfectly. Who do you suppose will do your dirty work because I know you ninnies would just as soon piss yourselves before handing out any beatdowns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no reasoning with these people. They literally need to be beaten down because that’s all they understand.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sums up race-baiting, wards of the state, leftists perfectly. Who do you suppose will do your dirty work because I know you ninnies would just as soon piss yourselves before handing out any beatdowns.</p>
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		<title>By: Now and Then</title>
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		<dc:creator>Now and Then</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>18 Delia . . . That;s not the issue. Here&#039;s the issue . . . 

&quot;It&#039;s a populist movement . . . young, old, liberal, conservative, white, black . . . etc.&quot;

Well, no, it&#039;s not. You want people to believe it is, but when people start asking, &quot;OK, but I don&#039;t see any black people&quot; you say, &quot;Well of course not. Why would there be black people?&quot;

Why indeed. Or Hispanics. Or Jews. Come to think of it, I didn&#039;t see any independents, either.  Of course they&#039;re easier to claim, ain&#039;t that right . . . far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18 Delia . . . That;s not the issue. Here&#8217;s the issue . . . </p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a populist movement . . . young, old, liberal, conservative, white, black . . . etc.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, no, it&#8217;s not. You want people to believe it is, but when people start asking, &#8220;OK, but I don&#8217;t see any black people&#8221; you say, &#8220;Well of course not. Why would there be black people?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why indeed. Or Hispanics. Or Jews. Come to think of it, I didn&#8217;t see any independents, either.  Of course they&#8217;re easier to claim, ain&#8217;t that right . . . far right.</p>
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		<title>By: myth buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>myth buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Praetorian, you&#039;re projecting again.  Please put the cool aid down, sleep it off, and start drinking water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praetorian, you&#8217;re projecting again.  Please put the cool aid down, sleep it off, and start drinking water.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually (after a little more research), the &#039;general welfare&#039; wording had to do with the authority to levy taxes such that Congress could carry out the specific powers it was given authority for in the Constitution, not to do any durnfool thing it wanted to. Either way, sticking its nose into health care ain&#039;t part of Congress&#039; powers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually (after a little more research), the &#8216;general welfare&#8217; wording had to do with the authority to levy taxes such that Congress could carry out the specific powers it was given authority for in the Constitution, not to do any durnfool thing it wanted to. Either way, sticking its nose into health care ain&#8217;t part of Congress&#8217; powers.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, &#039;Praetorian&#039;, a little history lesson. &quot;The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.&quot; Sound familiar? That would be the 10th Amendment. Now, let&#039;s try to think clearly (difficult for a leftist, I know, but...): if the &#039;general welfare&#039; wording meant that Congress could do any durnfool thing they thought was good for the citizens of the US, then what does this amendment mean? Nothing. 

We have to read the Constitution as it was meant to be read by the Framers, not bringing our own modern prejudices to it. At the time of its writing, the United States was a new, separate entity, a union of theoretically independent nation-states. The general welfare wording meant that if there was something Congress saw fit to do that benefitted that union qua union, they could do it, not to interfere with the personal lives of the people, or the proper functioning of the states.

And, give us a couple more Scalias, Roberts, or Thomases on the SCOTUS, and who knows? Maybe we&#039;ll see a substantial dismantling of the monstrous bureaucracy of federal gov&#039;t we have now, built substantially by gross misreading of the Constitution, like yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, &#8216;Praetorian&#8217;, a little history lesson. &#8220;The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.&#8221; Sound familiar? That would be the 10th Amendment. Now, let&#8217;s try to think clearly (difficult for a leftist, I know, but&#8230;): if the &#8216;general welfare&#8217; wording meant that Congress could do any durnfool thing they thought was good for the citizens of the US, then what does this amendment mean? Nothing. </p>
<p>We have to read the Constitution as it was meant to be read by the Framers, not bringing our own modern prejudices to it. At the time of its writing, the United States was a new, separate entity, a union of theoretically independent nation-states. The general welfare wording meant that if there was something Congress saw fit to do that benefitted that union qua union, they could do it, not to interfere with the personal lives of the people, or the proper functioning of the states.</p>
<p>And, give us a couple more Scalias, Roberts, or Thomases on the SCOTUS, and who knows? Maybe we&#8217;ll see a substantial dismantling of the monstrous bureaucracy of federal gov&#8217;t we have now, built substantially by gross misreading of the Constitution, like yours.</p>
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		<title>By: ETAB</title>
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		<dc:creator>ETAB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Praetorian, your attempt to deny the validity of the Tea Party protests by stating, without any evidence, that all such protests are racist, is pure nonsense.

Most people are indifferent to Obama&#039;s skin colour and his parentage (white skinned mother; black-skinned father). After all, most people voted him in as President. 

However, all presidential and Congressional actions are open to debate, analysis, criticism and support. That&#039;s because this is a republic, not a totalitarian state. Obama&#039;s actions are open to a LOT of criticism, from his pork-filled &#039;stimulus&#039;,his actions with  the banks, and the auto companies, his insults to foreign heads of state, his constant denigration of America - and - his denigration of Congress by insisting that they pass bills without reading or debating them.

Could you tell me what is particularly &#039;black-skinned&#039; or &#039;white-skinned&#039; about any of his actions? I&#039;m afraid I can&#039;t see any relation. I can&#039;t see that his skin color makes him behave or act as he does. Therefore, we have every right to crticize him.

Oh - and you are missing a vital, a key point in your reference to the Constitution. The vital point is a colon. You see, after the colon, the exact nature of &#039;what is understood as the general welfare&#039; is listed. Specifically.

Do you seriously assume that the Founding Fathers, who worked very hard to separate powers and to limit government, would insert a clause that was OPEN rather than Limited?  

Why, if you had a clause that set up the federal govt  as having the power to do anything &#039;for the general welfare&#039;...that could include anything that any sophist could dream up. But..there&#039;s that fact, that colon: and after that colon:...is listed, specifically, the nature of the actions that constitute this &#039;general Welfare. And guess what..health care isn&#039;t among them. After that colon:

So, try again. Try understand that Obama is not immune to criticism; that we have the right and duty to observe, examine, analyze.and critique his actions. For you to say that such is &#039;racist&#039; on our part is boneheaded. 

Oh..and read the Constitution. Remember what a Colon means: it is used to introduce a list. And that list, which outlines the specific actions understood to contribute to the &#039;general welfare&#039;..is finite. Specific. Closed. And no health care. Sucks, doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Praetorian, your attempt to deny the validity of the Tea Party protests by stating, without any evidence, that all such protests are racist, is pure nonsense.</p>
<p>Most people are indifferent to Obama&#8217;s skin colour and his parentage (white skinned mother; black-skinned father). After all, most people voted him in as President. </p>
<p>However, all presidential and Congressional actions are open to debate, analysis, criticism and support. That&#8217;s because this is a republic, not a totalitarian state. Obama&#8217;s actions are open to a LOT of criticism, from his pork-filled &#8216;stimulus&#8217;,his actions with  the banks, and the auto companies, his insults to foreign heads of state, his constant denigration of America &#8211; and &#8211; his denigration of Congress by insisting that they pass bills without reading or debating them.</p>
<p>Could you tell me what is particularly &#8216;black-skinned&#8217; or &#8216;white-skinned&#8217; about any of his actions? I&#8217;m afraid I can&#8217;t see any relation. I can&#8217;t see that his skin color makes him behave or act as he does. Therefore, we have every right to crticize him.</p>
<p>Oh &#8211; and you are missing a vital, a key point in your reference to the Constitution. The vital point is a colon. You see, after the colon, the exact nature of &#8216;what is understood as the general welfare&#8217; is listed. Specifically.</p>
<p>Do you seriously assume that the Founding Fathers, who worked very hard to separate powers and to limit government, would insert a clause that was OPEN rather than Limited?  </p>
<p>Why, if you had a clause that set up the federal govt  as having the power to do anything &#8216;for the general welfare&#8217;&#8230;that could include anything that any sophist could dream up. But..there&#8217;s that fact, that colon: and after that colon:&#8230;is listed, specifically, the nature of the actions that constitute this &#8216;general Welfare. And guess what..health care isn&#8217;t among them. After that colon:</p>
<p>So, try again. Try understand that Obama is not immune to criticism; that we have the right and duty to observe, examine, analyze.and critique his actions. For you to say that such is &#8216;racist&#8217; on our part is boneheaded. </p>
<p>Oh..and read the Constitution. Remember what a Colon means: it is used to introduce a list. And that list, which outlines the specific actions understood to contribute to the &#8216;general welfare&#8217;..is finite. Specific. Closed. And no health care. Sucks, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Praetorian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Praetorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delia wrote: &quot;Why would black/brown people who overwhelmingly vote Democrat and who overwhelmingly voted for 0bama show up at a tea party protest in any great numbers?&quot;

ROFLMAO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delia wrote: &#8220;Why would black/brown people who overwhelmingly vote Democrat and who overwhelmingly voted for 0bama show up at a tea party protest in any great numbers?&#8221;</p>
<p>ROFLMAO!</p>
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