2009: Tipping Point for Domestic Terror?
This past year is simply without precedent in terms of the number of terror plots and cells exposed and disrupted. For those of us who closely monitor terrorism trends and have consistently warned of the escalating pace of Islamic radicalization — only to be ignored and attacked by Islamic apologists and their allies — 2009 has proven to be a cold and uncomfortable vindication of our concerns. As we move into a new year, we very well may look back at this past year as a tipping point for domestic terror.
The year began with bad harbingers with the November 2008 terror attack in Mumbai — demonstrating the success of a new terror tactic, swarm attacks — and the beginnings of a nationwide investigation here at home into the operations of the al-Qaeda-affiliated Somali al-Shabaab networks (after Shirwa Ahmed, a Minneapolis resident, conducted a suicide bombing in Somalia and became the first ever successful American suicide bomber). That investigation expanded after news of the disappearance of at least a dozen young Somali-American men armed with U.S. passports who turned up in Somalia training with al-Shabaab. The fear remains that some of these individuals may return home determined to wage jihad on these shores.
What 2009 has demonstrated is that the pace and scope of radicalization in the American Islamic community have increased dramatically. From the attempted bombing of Jewish centers in the Bronx in June, to the indictment of seven North Carolina men determined to wage “violent jihad” in July, and most recently to the five Muslim-American men intent on waging jihad who were arrested in Pakistan in November, we see that domestic terror plots are in full bloom. With the increased extremist rhetoric being preached in American mosques, there is no reason to believe that this radicalization and jihadization will diminish in 2010.
This past year also saw two deadly “lone wolf” attacks directed at our military, demonstrating both the external and internal domestic terror threat to our armed forces. In June, Muslim convert Abdulhakim Muhammad shot two soldiers standing outside a Little Rock Army recruiting center, killing Pvt. William Andrew Long, who had just graduated from basic training. Muhammad later defending the attack in an interview with the Associated Press, saying that it was “an act, for the sake of God, for the sake of Allah, the Lord of all the world, and also a retaliation on U.S. military.” And in November, Army Maj. Nidal Hasan entered the Soldier Readiness Center at Ft. Hood and opened fire, killing fourteen and wounding nearly three dozen others.
As I noted here at PJ Media after the Ft. Hood massacre, we can expect more of these domestic attacks on the military. One reason is a perverse paradox at work. The success of our military in Iraq and increased troop levels in Afghanistan dramatically increase the risks for would-be jihadists to attack U.S. military targets overseas, while the successful Little Rock and Ft. Hood incidents demonstrate how vulnerable our military personnel are right here at home. No doubt many jihadists observing these incidents are encouraged by their apparent success and the added benefit of waging “legal jihad” in the court system afterwards, appealing to all the rights and protections afforded them by the very same U.S. Constitution they seek to subvert.
Meanwhile, the investigations into the Ft. Hood incident and the attempted bombing of Northwest Flight 253 last week have exposed the woeful inadequacy and fundamental incompetence of our homeland security infrastructure. In the Ft. Hood case, the FBI was aware of Maj. Hasan’s email communications with al-Qaeda cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, but failed to inform DOD authorities, believing the emails represented legitimate religious inquiries associated with his military duties. Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey afterwards expressed his astonishing sentiment that diversity should trump dead soldiers, saying: “As horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”
And even though the father of the would-be bomber of Flight 253 had informed the U.S. embassy in Nigeria of his fears that his son was being radicalized in Yemen and his name had been placed on a terrorism watch list, the State Department failed to revoke Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab’s entry visa.
Remember that one of the first acts of the Department of Homeland Security under the Obama administration was to issue a report warning of “right-wing extremism” and the looming terrorist threat of military veterans, pro-lifers, and opponents of illegal immigration. That threat didn’t pan out, while Islamic terrorism has flourished notwithstanding Obama’s “Blame America First” world tour and groveling outreach to the Muslim world.
What 2009 has taught us is how rapidly the nature of the threat from Islamic jihadists is evolving and how utterly unable our government is to recognize and respond to that threat. Sadly, I predict that the coming year will show us how bold, aggressive, and inventive our enemies have become and how little we have learned from the events of the past year. Let’s all hope that prediction doesn’t prove true.
I have to make one comment here. While I do think the Bush people got better at tracking terrorists than they were when they started, they were never really anywhere near perfect. Famously a couple of the 9/11 hijackers were issued visa renewals automatically six months after the attacks, with the government unaware this had happened until after the renewals were issued. I don’t think that screw up was Bush’s responsibility, per se, and I’m not sure why Obama should be blamed directly either. The Federal government is a giant bureaucracy, and its members are competent or not (usually not) regardless of the occupant of the White House. If Obama can be faulted for anything, it’s his at least implicit assertion, during the campaign, that he was smarter than Bush and could do the job better. I think, by now, he’s either regretting putting it that way, or hoping no one remembers. Well, and he’s probably a bit annoyed at his dingbat Homeland Security Secretary asserting that everything went according to plan and the system worked. All the system did is close the barn door after the horse was gone…and even that is a dubious assertion, since I’m not sure half the measures involved would actually prevent an attack. Most of the measures seem designed to annoy the terrorists into not flying, by making the experience as painful as possible.
Liberals are whining at republican response to their failure to prevent terrorist attacks
Since the failed attack on the American airline by a Moslem jihadist, the right-wing politicians strongly criticised president Obama for his failure to take terrorism seriously. Liberals turned up the highest whining levels and started to complain that they’ve been treated unfairly.
Read the entire article on my blog:
http://hyphenatedamericans.blogspot.com/2009/12/liberals-are-whining-about-republican.html
I agree with most everything you said about the military being the future targets for terrorist attacks. On the other hand, I feel it was a little unfair to singlehandedly blame the Obama administration for the events of the the past year. From the URL I provided, it can be seen that in both cases, the fault lies with the various security agencies inability to cooperate with each other.
Obama has shown that he is not afraid to take on terrorism at home and abroad with actions such as the drone strike in Yemen, the continuation of the war in Iraq, and the escalation of the war in Afghanistan.
It is clear that we now need to revise our entire security operations and institute new procedures both at airports and in the management of information. The thing I fear most though is us becoming a police state with blanket profiling of various groups and no more respect for a person’s privacy.
We are really in deep doo-doo. The politically correct George W. Bush was bad enough. Barack Obama takes it to entirely another level of awful leadership. He is Bush on steroids. The Muslim terrorists are presumably dark skinned victims of American imperialism. It is our fault that they are so filled with murderous rage. Both Bush and Obama are hostile toward rational profiling. Things are not going to get better in the next three years while Obama is president. Americans are going to have to wait until 2012. But can we wait that long? What do you want me to tell you? I can lie if it makes one feel better.
Our country is paying a terrible price because so many adults refused to do any serious research before entering the voting booth. Their ballots were cast for something of a mystery candidate for president. He had next to zilch executive experience and an overall slim resume—and they voted for him anyway.
Mr. Poole why end an article filled with facts and figures with a footnote of improbable fiction? “Let’s all hope..”
There is no question that the Islamic jihadists are going to ramp up their attacks in 2010 because there is nothing in place capable of stopping them.
There is no question that Barrack Hussein Obama’s first line of defense when it comes to Islamic jihadists is a rush to defend them and their “rights” at the same time the man hasn’t had a single, earnest decent thing to say about the people of his own country since he was born.
The only gray area involved when it comes to the Islamic jihadists is trying to determine whether or not Obama’s supporters are as determined to commit suicide for him as the Islamics are for Allah. Right now the statistical math indicates that score is dead even.
Sadly, this article is correct. Islamic aggression varies inversely with the perceived strength and resolve of its target.
Since the time of Muhammad, there has never been a period when Islam was not “on the march.” Islam’s most sacred scripture, the Qur’an, commands Muslims to convert, subjugate, or kill the unbeliever, such that Islam becomes the only religion accepted anywhere in the world. Variations in its expansiveness have always been due to the firmness of resistance to it. The long period from Jan Sobieski’s victory over the Ottomans outside Vienna to the post-World-War-II transition to accommodation was characterized by European revulsion against Islam and determination to keep Muslims out. The shift in European attitudes correlates precisely with the resurgence of aggressive Islamic incursion into the Old Continent.
It’s essentially irrelevant that today’s Muslim invaders use the birthrate rather than the sword to effectuate their conquests. If the spirit of resolute resistance to Islam doesn’t return to the Old World quite soon, the west will have ceded most of its lands, and most of its heritage, to the most savagely barbaric and totalitarian belief system the world has ever known.
Well said. It makes me want to scream and puke and commit some serious felonies if I was into going to prison or dying today, when I hear those morons talk like they don’t know what is going on. All it takes is reading just a bit of the Koran; reading a bit of unpolitically correct Islamic History and finally get off the arse and read the books from the women that’s lived it. Read the stuff of people who’s been living this stuff anywhere in the Middle East/North Africa. Get off your butts and make use of the library card and start reading up so you can be informative at the next family reunion. Talk to your church friends. Inform, inform, inform. And hopefully, Right Action will be taken. The only way to get people to wake up is to tell them WHAT is in the Koran. And then we tell them about Sharia Law…. unless those morons implement it like what is happening in Britianistan.
The fish rots from the head down.
Our President believes water boarding of a few high value terrorists, the ring leaders of death, is torture. He endorses euphemisms like “man caused disaster” and “foriegn contingency operation” as acceptable substitutes for terrorist incidents and war. He tries hard to divert attention from actual conflict started by Islamic radicals who have repeatedly attacked a country that has spent hundreds of billions of it’s citizens tax dollars freeing Muslims (Kuwait, Afghanistan Soviet occupation) and protecting them from attack (Bosnia). Our President has made an industry out of condemning previous administration’s foriegn policies that protected America and it’s allies.
Our President has appointed an Attorney General who has decided that it is necessary to prosecute CIA operatives for their interogation and imprisonment of the enemy. That same AG believes that it is necessary to try admitted terrorist ring leaders in civilian courts affording them the rights of citizens in the process. He doesn’t believe in employing the military court system that his own boss helped establish through legislation.
When one considers these policies and attitudes one should not at all be surprised that devout Islamists think it is ok to initiate attacks against our soldiers within the borders of the US. They are not terrorists in the eyes of our leaders, they are misguided criminals, as is the 23 year old killer who attempted to bomb NW flight 253.
The incidents that are occuring should not be happening, of course. Our President told us as a candidate that the planet would heal and the waters would recede when he became our chief executive.
That is prehaps, the silliest concept put forth by an academic socialist who believes all sorts of fantasy about the history of our country and its relationships with foriegn powers. That same man is demonstrably resentful of the country he now runs.
We should not be surprised that we are seeing an increase in attacks against our country. The message that it is permisable is being sent by the words and actions of our own President.
The fish rots from the head down. Elections have consequences.
“Multiple terror plots, increased radicalization…”
… yes, mister Poole, you are right, yet there is a silver lining for all the ugly things awaiting us – that is presence at this country’s helm of the steady, deliberate mister Obama who is thoughtfully deciding the course through the unprecedented crisis that the precedent, Bush administration created and cowardly left for him to resove!
Difficult times we face and tanks god mister Obama found a bit of time to rest In Hawaii these days!
It’s so reassuring that the one at the helm of this country is preparing himself for the unprecedented task of taking deliberate decisions in the unprecedented situation we face!
The thoughtfulness displayed in the Afghanistan situation where he spent LESS THAN FIVE MONTHS! to answer and apply gen. McChrystal’s plan shows that president Obama is serious about the job, and that America’s well-being has an important place in his mind.
Partying with friends in Hawaii right after an attempt of terrorism in the country and after the death of 8 CIA people in Afghanistan further shows that we are safe and cared for -
Thanks god, and proud am I that I am Democrat!
Hope and change, God damn America and Yes we can! Long Live President Obama!
Exactly correct.
War is always based on logistics. Under Obama, the jihadist have been allowed to relocate, rebuild and rework their logistic base. The Islamist have measured the man and found him very weak, extremely ineffective, subject to The Grand Kowtow and plainly not serious. He’s moved to defensive.
Sometime during W’s last two years the high water mark was reached on the war against the Islamist. The momentum has shifted and they are, once again, on the move. Increased attacks in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and even in Finland (of all places) not to mention the most recent two in our own country.
Once you go over on the defense, as that Chinese guy once said, you do not want to fight the war inside your territory. But that’s exactly what’s happening. With such a man in office for another three years, 2010 will be the year of increasing assaults on the US and the West and 2011 doesn’t look much better.
Already done tipped. And started to drop and accelerate a long time ago.
We’re like a Road Runner cartoon where Wily Coyote looks up just as the piano or safe or whatever is a few feet above and at terminal velocity.
I expect the coming year to be a bad year on the Long War front…because this Administration has a history of weakness and dithering, I can see our Jihadist enemies to begin a vigorous assault upon America. I suspect that we’ll begin to have multiple attacks or waves of attacks. Last week was only the beginning. Eventually some are going to succeed…and then we’ll see Mr. Biden’s prediction, this adminstration will do…nothing. That deosn’t bode well for America.
Jimmy Carter Redux is a BEST CASE senario…at this point. I suspect that since 90% of our problems in the middle east stem from Mr. Carter’s inability to actually DO anything against our enemies 30 years ago, this president won’t do anything either…but we’ll continue to be attacked while Mr. Obama ineffectually attempts to answer…and that will eventually result in another spectacular failure (i.e. the commando raid to free the hostages in Iran).
Patrick Poole, you are part of a small group of Paul Reveres warning the World about the Muslim Menace. Sadly, our citizens aren’t as receptive to your clarion alarums as our wise ancestors were. Unlike those early days of our republic’s birth, today we can’t say “Terror is Coming!”, for the Muslims are already here ( in their millions), and the terror is already here.
It’s clear that Obama has emboldened our adversaries and alienated our allies.
I’m anticipating that 2010 will be an even more violent year in which the government will further demonstrate its impotence in protecting my family and loved ones.
Especially if we continue importing radical Islam though the asinine Refugee resettlement Program – the same program one that’s a turning once benign Minneapolis into a Somali jihadi factory.
You Are 20X More Likely To Be Struck By Lightning Than Blown Up By Terrorists
Odds of being on an airplane attacked by a terrorist over the past decade, according to Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight.com: 1 in 10,408,947.
Odds of being hit by lightning in any single year: appx. 1 in 500,000.
Why No ‘War on Lightning’?
kudos to bradblog
Remember that one of the first acts of the Department of Homeland Security under the Obama administration was to issue a report warning of “right-wing extremism” and the looming terrorist threat of military veterans, pro-lifers, and opponents of illegal immigration. That threat didn’t pan out, while Islamic terrorism has flourished notwithstanding Obama’s “Blame America First” world tour and groveling outreach to the Muslim world.
As I recall, Big Sis Napolitano’s directive relative to domestic terrorism coincided with the height of tea party activity, around tax day, April 15. David Axelrod was on the airwaves about the same time, painting the tea party movement as the real wackos.
While Islamic terrorists seem to be greatly encouraged by Obama’s continued obeisance to “Izz-lam” and America’s increasingly vulnerable underbelly.
You just have to imagine that everything issuing from this administration is politically, as opposed to intelligently, motivated. It appears the response to the Christmas day incident is a whole new set of TSA procedures (patting down, etc., heads of state and other honchos excepted), as well as barring communications from the cockpit to the airplane cabin…?!
Wouldn’t want to get intelligent about airline security, would we? Engage in a little “profiling” like the Israelis?
If we can’t catch a Nigerian with a powerful explosive powder in his oddly feminine-looking underpants and a syringe full of acid, a man whose own father had alerted the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria, a traveler whose ticket was paid for in cash and who didn’t check bags, whose visa renewal had been denied by the British, who had studied Arabic in Al Qaeda sanctuary Yemen, whose name was on a counterterrorism watch list, who can we catch? (M. Dowd, NYTimes)
Americans are too wrapped up in their “reality” shows and their adulation of inane celebrities and their wacking activities to care about America. We are a sitting duck; our government is too conerned with suppressing dissent which dares to criticize the Obama Pelosis Reid regime. The best advice in the coming year is to avoid air travel completely and avoid entering big cities or places where crowds of witless Americans gather. The number one concern for the coming year is taking care of your family because no one else is looking out for you.
15. kochevnik:
You Are 20X More Likely To Be Struck By Lightning Than Blown Up By Terrorists
Yes, and if we did not take precautions against lightning strikes the ratio would be even higher.
And with great expense we harden our systems against lightning strikes with lightning rods, surge suppressors, and circuit breakers.
And a lightning strike has far less economic impact than a terrorist attack.
What’s your point? I hope it wasn’t to display a superior intellect.
I agree with the author Richard Poole that 2010 is going to be bad. Only the incompetence of the terrorist bomber and a passenger’s fast reaction prevented Northwest Flight 253 from going down. I predict we will lose at least one airliner in 2010. Given that our intelligence and security organizations that cost billions are a JOKE, and the fact that these suicide bombers can get explosives and training, it’s only a matter of time. Even the lost of a few airliners won’t change Obama’s thinking. In a few years, when Iran gives the terrorists a nuke, and one of our cities is turned into a smoking hole, this country might finally wake up.
WMATA at 3,
You are correct that the agencies are in disharmony, ask your self the next question, why?
President Obama is the Commander in Chief. He sets the tone and establishes the leadership for each executive department. He either encourages operations or discourages them. He creates a climate that encourages inter agency cooperation or discourages it. We know this is true because under Clinton Jamie Gorelick instituted a policy that prevented the CIA and the FBI from working cooperatively with each other. The result was 9/11.
Obama’s policies have shaken morale in our security apparatus. We know that the CIA is in upheaval over the prosecution of agents. Director Panetta voiced strong disapproval of AG Holder’s prosecutions, but Holder went ahead anyway. Panetta should have resigned. Obama has gone along with Holder. Napolitano is demonstrably feckless. She has shown her cluelessnes repeatedly begining with her memo on the danger of rightwing extremists and, most recently, with her statement that the security system worked after flight 253 came near to being blown out of the sky. Obama chose these department heads and set the tone for their interrelationship.
Does this policy establishment and staffing give you any insight into why agencies aren’t communicating better? It certainly appears publicly that the interagency communication message is being drowned out by other priorities, none of which are security oriented, but are instead political.
Obama is directly responsible for these choices. He has to take responsibility for the consequences as well.
The fish rots from the head down.
15. kochevnik:
what an as@ crack of an argument. lol
no wonder the president of the USA is an idiot. idiots are allowed to vote.
Kochevnick at 15,
So the point is that because it is an isolated occurence we should ignore it? By the way we already take numerous steps to protect ourselves from lightnig. Lightning detection, rods, grounding etc.
What would be your point? Would you feel differently if you had a child killed at Beslan?
Someday our POTUS will probably get it. It may take a horrific attack. Nevertheless, he will finally understand the threat and what it will take to defeat it. One may make a couple of recommendations for that fateful day when he finally will go to war in earnest:
Mr. President:
(1) Stop and think. Ask yourself why, exactly why, Gitmo needs to be closed. Does it help or hurt the war effort to close it? To make some Euros and hard-line libruls admire and like you? Not a good enough reason, now is it? Most of those folks won’t even acknowledge we are and should continue to be at war.
(2) A few judges and some high-ranking Administration persons, even perhaps including a former President or two, have created an absurd and illegal change to the Constitution by claiming it applies of every person, friend or enemy, in the entire world. There is a process for changing the Constitution, and these persons have not even attempted to use it. That is why I used the adjective illegal. Constitutional rights only apply to U.S. citizens. If this should be changed, let us use the appropriate process.
(3)Stop treating acts of terror and war, especially by foreign nationals, as criminal actions. These warriors need to be treated as prisoners of terrorist war, grilled for intelligence, and tried by military commissions and/or held as prisoners of war away from our shores until the war ends.
(4)In the Middle Ages there were some impregnable castles. Not many, but some. These castles were ruled by a lord and master, the subjects of whom were bound to obey him. The U.S. is no impregnable castle…it is highly pregnable, by our choice. It will remain so. We can’t expect to build an unassailable defense. Therefore, as it seems you may be starting to realize, our main emphasis must be to sally forth and attack wherever the enemy and his supporters may be found. The attacks need to be made with the ruthlessness which the U.S. has applied in those past wars that we clearly did win. Half-measures will only drag out the suffering.
President Obama, please consider these points I beg of you.
Ah, for the good old days, before the terrorists won, and when trouser thrust was still tolerated …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjXkOplqrWo
#15
Hahaha. The first pin head has arrived and it’s name is kochevnik.
One, tell your marvelous librul statistics to the families of the victims of 9/11. Two, please give us what you would consider to be an appropriate and fair number of civilian casualties per year of terror that we would find fitting and proper to accept.
You make us a proposal that we should live like the Israelis, never knowing when they arise in the morning whether they or their children will be attacked that day? Get bent, my good and faithful friend.
… increasing radicalisation and a few other, Part “n +1″
Just seen and read about the recent shooting spree in Finland – besides the tragedy, it is simply amazing the hypocrisy of the MSM when dealing with these cases:
The CNN Internet Report could help finish their piece by without the remark: [...] Finland [...] has a high proportion of gun ownership, with 2 million firearms owned in a nation of 5 million people. [...]
Good to know that, and this sure is the key of the problem, guns ownership, not the fact that finger on the trigger was of one Ibrahim Shkupolli, who is gingerly described as having “lived for a while in the country” -
The name tells me that mister Ibrahim is a Laputan or a Brobdignagian – arrrgh! they’re it again, those Laputans and Brobdignagian!
Still, let’s not generalize and sterotype – president Obama spoke in great terms in Cairo about the Laputans’ overwhelming apport to the human civilization.
Let’s follow president Obama’s way of thinking and accept the fact that the police in Finland acted stupidly – and let’s be consisten and criticise at any opportunity those racist pigs that the Swiss are who try to stop the spread of minarets in their ugly, racist realm.
Yes, we can!
Ibrahim Shkupolli
Here they come. The common retorts.
Retort #1: All “terrorist” incidents are one-offs. No connection, no wider movement. Just random acts of violence. Nothing to see here.
Retort #2: What about other misfortunate events. Take for instance, automobile accidents or cancer or lightning strikes or or spontaneous combustion. (Yeah, we get it. They are dangerous too and none are idealogically driven. Your point??)
Retort #3: Non Jihadists commit crimes too. Can we draw some ridiculous conspiracy theories from these?
The intended message? Just ignore the problem.
Samizdat writes:
“We should not be surprised that we are seeing an increase in attacks against our country. The message that it is permissible is being sent by the words and actions of our own President.”
Yes, and, as you imply, the penalties have been lowered and the rewards raised. That is one might accommodating president, if you are a radical Islamic terrorist. Shucks, the Christmas Day bomber might get to write a book and make a movie. Who knows, he might replace Oprah.
RE #15/kochevnik:
[...] Odds of being on an airplane attacked by a terrorist over the past decade, according to Nate Silver at FiveThirtyEight.com: 1 in 10,408,947. [...] Why No ‘War on Lightning’? [...]
1) Kochy, looks for me that you work in the same boiler room with dba Alice Nolin – same silly rhetoric, same absurd extrapolations made, the purpose of your enterprise being strictly to exonerate Hussein Soetoro from the misery he has dragged this country in –
You sure fight a lost war, buddy – and I don’t pity you -
2) Why no “War on Lightning”? – yeah, right, the headlines “Gunman [named Ibrahim] kills 6 in Finland” justify you –
What was the likelihood of being killed by a Muslim terrorist in Finland before this?
If you want to channel those who were killed there regarding this, do it –
You and AN are such a couple of morons -
TO: Patrick Poole, et al.
RE: ‘Tipping Point’ Indeed!
And it’s worse than we would like to think.
See THIS!
And reading this, I’m reminded of Rick Moran’s pledge last year about this time, i.e., after the election of The One, that Obama would be “his President”.
Now, after reading that government agencies are seizing bloggers computers, I have to wonder if my warning to him about such happening under the Obama ‘administration’, will take effect.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
P.S. I tried to leave a contact-me item to him at his web-site, Rightwing Nuthouse, but considering the way it appeared, e.g., there were required fields but no way to enter data into them, I’m not sure it got through.
Until we can racially and ethnically profile, our airlines and other forms of mass transportation will be exposed to jihadi terrorism.
Until we take the fight, as we did against Germany and Japan in WWII using all our will and weopons in our arsenal and every tactic we have at our disposal to the jihadists, we will continue to this long, unsustainable and losing “war”.
Until we define, with prejudice, that Islamic adherents are the cause of terrorism, and they are our enemy, America, and Americans will continue to be the targets of their jihad.
Until America throws off the chains of political correctness that shackle us like sheep to the leftist dogma, speech limitations, thought regulations and the idea that America is evil, we will continue to lose our American traditions, values, sovereignity and our freedoms and liberties to Islam and their left-wing apologists.
15. kochevnik.
“You Are 20X More Likely To Be Struck By Lightning Than Blown Up By Terrorists”
Go to the tallest hill in your neighborhood on a wet day during a lightening storm. Connect a copper bracelet tightly around your wrist. Pound a 10ft. copper rod into the ground. Securely connect 8ga. copper wire between the wrist bracelet and the copper rod. Take another copper rod, as long as possible, say 25ft, and point it skyward while holding it in the opposite hand from the arm with the wrist bracelet. In lieu of the second copper rod, you could use an ungrounded metal tower, if one is available. Do this on several occasions, if you continue to have the opportunity.
Or you could invite a terrorist with a bomb onto your next airline flight. Do this on several occasions, if you continue to have the opportunity.
In the first case, you pretty much damage only yourself, and the damage is due only to your own thought process. The lighting is not a thinking being. The choice is yours.
In the second case, you damage yourself, all others on the flight, the airline company, and the concept of aviation in general. The terrorist does think and plot, unlike the lightening, and thinks only of killing.
The first case is misinformed, the second is criminal.
Thinly veiled propaganda. First of all, the Mumbai attacks occured in 2008, not 2009. The last time I looked, November is still part of the year it exists in, though it is convenient to lump that in 2009.
In any case, 2001 to 2008 were banner years for terrorism that make 2009 look calm. Richard Reid the first shoe bomber using a component chemical, several home grown plots were disrupted, and for christ’s sake, Benazir Bhutto was assassinated in Pakistan. You people see what you want to see. Terrorism has been on the increase since 2006, with more and more attacks every year since. There are many factors, but I suggest that anyone who wants to understand them, laugh off this rather weak attempt at propaganda by Poole, and seek out a real expert.
2001: United States: Anthrax attacks on the offices the United States Congress and New York State Government offices, and on employees of television networks and tabloids.
2002: An Egyptian gunman opens fire at an El Al ticket counter in Los Angeles International Airport, killing two Israelis before being killed himself.
2003: Saudi Arabia: Bombings of United States expatriate housing compounds in Saudi Arabia kill 26 and injure 160 in the Riyadh Compound Bombings. Al-Qaeda blamed.
2005: United States: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-born graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus, injuring nine.
2006: United States: An Afghani Muslim hit 19 pedestrians, killing one, with his SUV in the San Francisco Bay area.
2006: Federal Agents disrupt Derrick Shareef’s attack on an Illinois shopping mall planned for December 22nd. His intent was to commit “violent jihad” just before Christmas.
2007: United States, A group of six radical Islamist men, allegedly plotting to stage an attack on the Fort Dix military base in New Jersey, were arrested by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) on May 7, 2007
2007: A pair of improvised explosive devices are thrown at the Mexican Consulate in New York City. The fake grenades were filled with black powder and detonated by fuses, causing very minor damage. Police investigate the connection between this and a similar attack against the British Consulate in New York in 2005.
2007: Benazir Bhutto assassinated in Pakistan after several attempts on her life.
2008: Gunmen corner and kill United States Agency for International Development contract employee Stephen D. Vance and his driver around 8:00 am local as they traveled from Vance’s residence to work.
thanks for the link Chuck.
and you know they are only doing this for the good of all. lol.
haven’t seen much of you here lately.
happy new year
Re #30/Chuck Pelto:
[...] And it’s worse than we would like to think. See THIS! [...]
Saw it on Reynolds’, too – good job.
Shooting the messenger – what can you expect from the “God dam’ America!” president?
Lightening is a natural phenom -so nothing can be done-nor should it be tried. You have to be smarter than the lightening is all and if one in 5000,000 aren’t, oh well.
Same goes for terrorist attacks. How long have we all been clued into this being a possibility-especially in densely populated areas or where people tend to gather in mass ? Additionally, how long have we been clued into government dysfuntion ?
I feel sympathy for folks that have little choice about where they work/live and if it is obligatory to travel constantly in order to feed yourself or pay your bills.
Get the message ? You need to protect yourselves. Have you seen all the silly women getting out of their cars while talking on their cell phones in an almost empty parking lot in the wee hours of the night-totally engrossed in a conversation and unaware of their surroundings ?Total marks-might as well adverise.
Don’t be stupid, be proactive. Don’t want to be inconvenienced ? One will have to weigh that aspect themselves. Go to the airport and something is up/some one is acting oddly/acting up?
Be at the end of the line when boarding, suddenly take ill and be unable to board, or whatever, but be proactive. Obviously no one is going to be serious on your behalf. Be a grown-up and stop being so self-indulgent.We have had more than twenty years of this crappola and improvements are quite small in that time period, and, it will continue at this speed for some time to come. Get over it and look after yourself.
Police are useless-too slow. First responders are twenty minutes away=you are either already dead/maimed or taken hostage by then.
It is what it is, get with the program.
“Multiple terror plots, increased radicalization, and continued government incompetence bode ill for 2010.”
you forgot a president who is a muslim apologist.
Oh and alice nolin, you know nothing of islam, you are merely in desperate need of a man (any man), go back to your cave.
Somehow in the national mindset, criminal profiling was canned because it was linked to racism by way of stereotyping. That is nuts. As long as the airport screeners inspect kids and grannys instead of young Muslim men then this war on terrorism will not abate. The Jihad will not end until the Muslims can clean their own mindsets about converting with swords and bombs. No foreign bribes, campfire songs, or education will put that Jin back in the bottle.
33. Alice Nolin: “In any case, 2001 to 2008 were banner years for terrorism that make 2009 look calm.”
In comments on other articles here, you have claimed terrorism is not an issue, yet now, you are listing itemized events. Can’t make up your mind Cybil?
Neverquit. I was expecting this from people here. Rate has nothing to do with quantity. If there are three attacks in may and four attacks in june, the rate has increased, though the amount of attacks is still negligible. If you people insist on making terrorism the biggest issue facing us, then others will have to engage you on the issues you’re presenting. Under your own rubric it makes no sense. There are very few terrorist attacks; within that reality, those numbers have increased since 2006. People with average intellects can understand this, I’m sorry if it went over your head, idiot.
Hey if you want to see how the Obama Administration views its role in reaction to a terrorist incident occuring on it’s watch check out the “The Prowler’s” Report released this date on “American Spectator”, also on “Hot Air”.
The political Big 3 Axelrod, Emanuel and WH Counsel Bauer ordered staff to dig up incidents of Bush Administration screw ups regarding terror during the prior administrations tenure. This after the Big 3 had figured out that Obama had a big political problem after the flight 253 disaster.
The game plan is old and obvious isn’t it? Deflect blame by transfering it back to Bush.
I don’t think this idea is working anymore, the American public has caught on and Obama’s approval numbers are in free fall. Bush has been out of office for 11 months now. Just wait until Rasmussen and company release polling in the next week, the President will be even less popular, and for good reason, he isn’t getting the job done. His agencies are failing to protect US citizens.
Isn’t amazing that this White House doesn’t know what to do turn things around? Saftey and security are just not part of it’s DNA.
I hope more people follow and read the link provided by #30 Chuck Pelto (above) which provides more information about the reaction of our government to the failed crotch bomber. Specifically, the government is cracking down and seizing the computers of bloggers who reported TSA’s reaction to the incident.
I don’t recall hearing of the Bush administration going after journalists who revealed the top secret foreign-telephone eavesdropping program. It seems in this case the Obama administration is so embarrassed they are punishing anyone and everyone who makes them look bad. Seems to be a classic case of shooting the messenger.
@15. kochevnik: – Odds of being on an airplane attacked by a terrorist…
Thanks for that useless red herring, kodipschit. I’m seeing this same glurge posted by all the usual moral adolescents like you and the Nolin/Moho professional sock puppet organization. It must be one of OFA’s talking points this week, yes?
I’m sure that during WWII those same odds comforted all American civilians – they were statistically guaranteed never to be injured by enemy forces in much the same way as well.
But here’s the thing: that didn’t absolve the federal government of its primary Constitutional responsibility to defend the nation by actually acknowledging and fighting WWII, or any war preceding.
Out of all the vote-buying activities the federal government is spending Trillion$ of American Taxpayers’ money on right now – in many (most?) cases directly contravening the will of the American People – its most critical responsibility is the defense of America and Americans from enemy attack.
You morons who claim that we “shouldn’t worry” about the statistical likelihood of being murdered by some islamist terrorist are willfully ignoring and/or trying to downplay the federal government’s responsibilities here. You do this at the behest of BHO and his suicidally inept administration, because you’re woefully ignorant of history, and because no one you care about has been murdered or maimed by terrorists. Yet.
BHO and his sycophant minions want to pretend that Radical Islam’s War Against the Rest of the World® ended the day he was inaugurated, if it ever existed at all. His rhetoric infers that he’s now “cleaning up the mess created by Bush” – a risible fantasy made palatable by a Fourth Estate infested with pathological liars, who have morphed most of the media into the socialist Fifth Column that got him elected.
But the reality is this: BHO will soon be reeling from the mess left by Clinton and all those who, in their efforts to avoid responsibility for national security in a time of war, treated islamist terrorism as a “law enforcement problem”. When there’s a socialist agenda at stake, it’s preferable to pretend there is no (real) war. That way, one avoids the associated, politically debilitating brier patch that comes with the difficult and often thankless task of National Defense. That is a task BHO is in no way prepared for. And with his approval numbers steadily dropping since the day he was sworn in, he also knows it’s a task his marxist agenda won’t survive.
The Bush administration and the Congress that backed him learned through hard, politically devastating experience that islamist terrorists can’t be coddled once they’re captured; they can’t be “reasoned with”, treated like common criminals or arbitrarily extended the rights of U.S. citizens. This learning process played out most significantly in the months following Saddam’s defeat: while Coalition Forces thought they were engaged in reconstruction, al Qaeda’s army – which was not the gang of criminal thugs conventional wisdom of the time portrayed them as – almost destroyed Iraq.
It took years and a lot of lives to figure out that the Clinton administration’s “law enforcement” policies don’t work with a determined, militarized enemy, and that the dangers from such an enemy can’t be minimized simply because its attacks don’t pose an immediate, ‘statistically significant’ threat to any one U.S. citizen, or because it’s not a geopolitical State in the conventional sense. With that change in understanding, al Qaeda was decimated by the strategic decision to focus on Iraq and treat the enemy as a military – not criminal – entity.
What the “compassionate conservatives” never figured out, however, was how to communicate all this to the American People effectively. In point of fact – in stark contrast with BHO’s lightning response to Cheney’s criticism (after waiting days to let Americans know that he was aware of the Christmas terrorist) – their biggest failure was that they barely even responded to the endless raft of lies, misinformation, fauxtography and misrepresentations used to attack the administration’s defense of this country. And so the public pressure to completely neutralize al Qaeda and its islamist allies like Hiz’b'allah dissipated.
Every step in that learning process – every ‘mistake’ Bush and his administration made – was ridiculed, criticized, dissected, amplified, exaggerated and politicized 24/7 by the Anti-Bush Party and their sycophants in The Left Wing Media, from the day the NYT printed Joe Wilson’s lies right through to BHO’s most recent stutterings. Those efforts went well beyond treason in their disregard for national security and the effective aid and comfort they afforded the enemy in a time of war.
The reality today is that BHO and his minions should be criticized even more severely – by the very same people who attacked Bush – since he’s going back to repeating the mistakes Bush and his administration were relentlessly ridiculed for before they shook themselves loose from the previous administration’s suicidal mindset and fully realized what they were dealing with.
This administration and much of this country have regressed to a 9/10 mindset – the mentality that gave us WTC ’93, Kobar Towers, Nairobi, East Timor, the U.S.S. Cole and plenty of other violent islamist aggression. That same mentality gave us the Ft. Hood terrorist massacre. It’s going to draw more of the same islamist aggression, as we saw on Christmas. And this idiotic statistics bullsh!t is part and parcel of that suicidal, regressive mindset.
#40. Alice Nolin: “”There are very few terrorist attacks; within that reality, those numbers have increased since 2006. People with average intellects can understand this, I’m sorry if it went over your head, idiot.”"
Keep on posting, you look more foolish with each one, and each new ID, Cybil.
One can profile-silently, without offense to anyone, right inside ones own head.
Governments don’t mind all that much a few citizen sacrifices in order to uphold the image they are trying to project.
The public quickly forgets-can no longer enumerate and then the tally becomes more insignificant as time passes.
Exponentially fewer flights=less revenue/ fewer jobs= forcing their hand, eventually. A sort of strike against flight. Use ticket money for other sort of retreats or vacations for your kids.
Neverquit, lol. Yes, I will I hope you don’t make me look too foolish! Idiot.
Neverquit at 44,
I am still trying to figure Alice out.
The first post I read from her listed her as “Alice Wigglebottom”, after that she became “Alice Nolin”. She immediately engages the Lib/Marxist tactic of lableing all who disagree or dispute her as stupid, I have noted that.
She always has a “researched” reply at hand which smacks of professional backing, maybe Media Matters, or some other lefty financed front organization. She is quite belicose and there is a good deal of pent up anger in her posts. Her style and syntax are different. Kind of a female version of Now and Then, without the snarky smart alek angle.
In addition to the “everyone who disagrees is stupid ” angle she also employs the “disassemble by diversion and obfiscation” tactic, you know, bring in ten examples of other peoples mistakes to cover up your guys error.
Just thought I would seek out your perspective as the national security sand slips out of our hour glass.
by now you must have figured out that engaging the trolls in debate is fruitless.
they have been indoctrinated. they are morally bankrupt and cannot be honest in their arguments.
I know the impulse to outline the folly of their discourse is strong.
it will bother them more if you do not respond.
http://www.pbase.com/opinion/opinions some good reading
God how I miss Bush at this juncture. Despite his failure to defend himself-I would take him back in an heartbeat.
Thinly veiled propaganda. First of all, the Mumbai attacks occured in 2008, not 2009. The last time I looked, November is still part of the year it exists in, though it is convenient to lump that in 2009.
Have a serious reading comprehension problem? The literal meaning of Poole’s statement (“The year [2009] began with bad harbingers with the November 2008 terror attack in Mumbai…”) is to the effect that the November 2008 attacks were a bad sign of things to come in 2009. So, no, Poole was not placing November 2008 in the year 2009.
Or didn’t the leftwing propaganda school you attended teach you the meaning of the word “harbinger”?
In any case, 2001 to 2008 were banner years for terrorism that make 2009 look calm.
What illogical fantasy world are you living in? #1, Poole is specifically writing about terrorist acts on U.S. soil occurring after 9/11/2001. Therefore, your counting the 9/11 and foreign attacks is irrelevant to Poole’s thesis.
#2, the actual statistics on Islamic / jihad-inspired attacks on U.S. soil after 2001 are:
Year / Killed / Injured / Total Casualties
2002 / 17 / 2 / 19
2003 / 2 / 0 / 2
2004 / 2 / 6 / 8
2005 / 0 / 0 / 0
2006 / 7 / 11 / 18
2007 / 5 / 4 / 9
2008 / 3 / 0 / 3
2009 / 16 / 33 / 49
___________________________________________________
Total / 52 / 56 / 108
These numbers clearly show a major spike in Islamic attacks on U.S. soil in the year 2009. Indeed, the total number of casualties in 2009 is 2.6 times the highest number of any single year from 2002 to 2008, and 5.8 times the average annual number of casualties in all years from 2002 to 2008.
Source:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm
So if anyone here is guilty of spreading thinly-veiled propaganda, it’s you.
I hope you don’t make me look too foolish! Idiot.
Oops, too late, I just did! Idiot.
RE #33/Hysterical:
[...] Thinly veiled propaganda. [...] There are many factors, but I suggest that anyone who wants to understand them, laugh off this rather weak attempt at propaganda by Poole, and seek out a real expert. [...]
Hysterical, switch the keybord with Kochy, maybe you’ll do better – no matter how you contort, the fact that dba Obama’s procrastination (if not seditious attitude) has greatly empowered the terrorist and has discouraged our allies is OBVIOUS -
And the consequences dba Obama’s holograking in issues are severe – all deaths in Afghanistan of American and allied personnel after August (after McChrystal presented the new plan) HAVE AND WILL BE CAUSED BY OBAMA’S VICIOUS ATITUDE IN THIS MATTER, and to his distinct vengeful antipathy for America and the Western Civilization -
“God damn’ America!” was Obama’s cri-de-guerre, and he hasn failed in working to filfill this promise –
Hysterical, you keep trying to get dba Obama out of this – yet the signs are that the jury has reached the conclusion and is working on the verdict -
And ask for a news hymn page, you and Kochy have been seriously left behind by the events –
As far as “real expert”, it’s about the time to find a real head expert for y/self, Hysterical – but don’t go for Kochevnick’s credentials, he might try to use a chain saw to see what’s wrong in your head -
Good lord! What a crew! From what trash bin do MoveOn.Org harvests you? Good Lord! The three Stooges look like Voltaire or Ian Popper when compared with you -
The lowest form of stupidity is weakness. Barack Obama is weakness incarnate.
@47. Samizdat: – I am still trying to figure Alice out.
Why bother analyzing a(nother) Moho sock puppet? The reason s/he reads like Now and Then is simple: groupthink. Mindless parroting with a twist of lemming.
Why No ‘War on Lightning’?
How many lightning bolts are working to detonate an atom bomb in a major U.S. city, idiot?
40. Alice Nolin:
In specific, which issues are more important than terrorism, why is that and what would you do about them? What would you propose we do about terrorism?
Yes, you’re getting called out, if you fail, it will be your last chance here to be anything other than the butt of the jokes of person you consider yourself superior to.
Just a hint, rule number one in cases such as this is:no wikipedia.
“Alice”, you seem to be trying to achieve some kind of put down based on a point about 2008 v. 2009 and rate v. quantity or some such.
And wot’s with laying out a (very incomplete) litany of attacks 2001 to 2008 ?
Is that intended to enlighten, or something ?
Here, eddukate yourself on “quantity” of attacks. It will give you a much deserved headache.
Halfway down the page, List of Islamic terror attacks for the past 2 months
The first post I read from her listed her as “Alice Wigglebottom”, after that she became “Alice Nolin”.
Looks like you have a lot to figure out you, imbecile. Anyone can post under any name here. I have as much idea of who Alice Wigglebottom is as I do who mojo is. It must be comforting to you to pretend to face only one person who thinks you are a total idiot.
46. Alice Nolin.
Word from Modern Liberal World has it that Pee Wee moho – Anon – Shawn Ondeen Whatever’s Alice Nolin Twilight Zone Dummy made the transition from male to female in a Wannabe Jihad camp. It arrived as moho, and the camp counselors gave it the name Lou Foolspin (any wonder?), and Foolspin was assigned to debug the exploding underwear prototype. After the test climax Foolspin looked down, and, well Alice was born.
Nolin is shorthand for No Link. Aren’t those Jihadis funny?
It’s a bit more difficult for Pee Wee to (be a) jerk now, but as the Modern Liberals have taught, it’s the effort that counts, not the results.
Come on Baby Light My Fire, Try to…
“Yes, I will I hope you don’t make me look too foolish!”
No problem Pee Wee moho – Anon – Shawn Ondeen Whatever’s Alice Nolin Twilight Zone Dummy.
251. moho:
After some quiet reflection, I realize now that I’m completely wrong, about everything. My sincere, sincere apologies for disrupting this thread with my hateful nonsense. I wish you gentlemen and ladies a wonderful thanksgiving weekend.
Nov 27, 2009 – 8:28 am
252. Moho:
Well, 251, is an obvious forgery. I would never wish any of you a “Thanksgiving Weekend”. Thanksgiving falls on a Thursday, and it is the only legal holiday. Malingering hillbillies that you are, your traditional dishonest manipulation of turning the event into a four day holiday fails with people who don’t share your enthusiasm for the celebration of the triumph of holocaust. Back to work, you shiftless cousin-f%^^%ers.
Nov 27, 2009 – 10:28 am
“Blistering in its simplicity. Hilarious in its cadence and rhythm. Keep up the good work.”
- Now and Then –
Again -
Come on now, break it out moho, lol, squirreling, pwnage, whatever. By all means be hip. Lay it out.
Be “brave”. Call someone stupid! Be cool. That’s all that matters.
Ok, on the count of three, be my pet dog!
Happy New Year! Whatever.
Baal:
First, I want to say thank you
Yes, you’re getting called out, if you fail, it will be your last chance here to be anything other than the butt of the jokes of person you consider yourself superior to.
Its not often I get such a big laugh out of the brainless hubris of an idiot poster here. Oh, please don’t call me out..lol. What issues are more important than terrorism, you complete retard? I hope you’re joking:
Number One: We are owned by China, you idiot. We mortgaged our future to that country and others to pay for two wars at once on credit. On top of that, we see fit to increase our military spending on credit, rather than go to zero and live off of what we’ve already paid for. It was an awesome idea, to, on top of that cut taxes. Because any economist knows that by increasing indebtnedness and decreasing income, you’re really going to create a fantastic economy. You can add the health care package to that, of course. Had we not dived headlong into two occupations at once, while still increasing the size of our miltiary, we’d only have one balloon payment to make and only one explosion of bankruptcy to worry about in the next decade.
Number Two: I don’t know if you’ve ever read something called a newspaper. In these newspapers, they often follow stories about important things like, oh I don’t know, the falling price of homes. A report issued yesterday finds that home prices are falling again, after a brief and small increase. As many economists predicted, the recovery is W shaped, this isn’t over by a long shot. But don’t forget to crap your pants about terrorism, you idiot, while you’re out on the street wondering why you can’t afford your mortgage for your worthless house.
Number Three: Massive joblessness, no job recovery. As I noted the recovery is W shaped. The staunching caused by the slim growth will be undone. As bad as things are now, they are about to become much worse.
This is all the stuff, and there’s plenty more, even diabetes and childhood obesity is more important than terrorism. You can call me a fool all you want. Believe me when I say to you that almost anyone would have trouble finding insult, instead of humor, by that coming from someone who asked that incredibly asinine question. If, indeed, its you who’s taken seriously here, then all my most carefully crafted insults would never serve to illustrate the depth of stupidity represented by this website.
I wish there were more room in the public discourse for recognition of the fact that a terrorist penetration of the system does not necessarily mean the system failed – it may simply mean that its weaknesses were recognized and exploited, perhaps with the aid of a weakness of very advanced technology.
I hated this argument against Bush – Bush’s fault! – for 9/11, although it was obviously completely appropriate against feckless Clinton.
But to lambast and force the resignation of high government officials because some Nigerian has high-explosive powder sown into his underwear – powder that wouldn’t have been detected with a pat-down or an electronic scanner or a detection wand – is a seriously terrible precedent and only furthers the goals of terrorists. In fact it is tantamount to these officials’ assassination.
I understand it’s great to exploit any opportunity to bring down political opponents, particularly if they’re covert Marxist-Leninists, but can right-thinking people appreciate the fact that, in cases where terrorist ingenuity was simply superior, this domestic political strategy is in bad faith and potentially destabilizing?
“Achmed: you pick up a gun, and walk into a mall, and shoot everyone you see until you are shot down or run out of bullets. That way, we kill 25 Christians, and at least 2 cabinet members have to resign, not to mention this president will never get elected next term – in fact, we may move the Senate too if we do it right, inshallah.”
You want to add casualties? I don’t want to add casualties unless these people were seriously derelict in their duties. Just to say “hey! this person was ranting about this guy in Vancouver for 2 years! and this guy heard something on the shortwave about some guy named Mutab! And this Nigerian said he hates whities and loves Allah! EVERYBODY PANIC! SOMEONE TEAR DOWN THE CIA!!!”
As Americans first, I’d think – no matter the unscrupulousness of our political opponents – we’d all want to build *some* common American sensibility about these things on clear questions like this, without which this Republic is seriously f_cked.
When Big Sis said over the weekend that “the system worked”, she was reflecting this administration’s law enforcement approach to terrorism. For Janet et al., the fact that some procedures (not to mention new niggling little rules for the average American traveler, heads of state & their families excepted) kicked in following the “crotchbomber” means the system is working.
The bureaucratic mind, writ large ! (or small)
As a friend just wrote in email…”the leadership seems to think that we’re better off working within the law enforcement model which, because it’s reactive rather than proactive, means that we’re going to take some casualties.”
And some federal subpoenas have been issued for the “travel bloggers” who spilled Janet’s new set of airline regulatory beans onto the internet, while Obama’s boyz in the hood, Axelrod, Rahm et al. busy themselves trying to identify and pinpoint some parallel kinds of failings during the Bush administration.
TO: All
RE: Interesting….
….that my response to misanthropicus doesn’t seem to have made it past the ‘moderation’ process…..such as it is.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....]
59. Alice Nolin:
So what you’re saying is that you have a weight problem and hate men bc you didnt get asked to the prom?
No, using the “lol” will not make you thinner, but bulemia will.
Now that, said, I would think that a large successful terrorist attack in a major urban area could cause a greater amount of trouble than you may think.
So what you’re saying is that you have a weight problem and hate men bc you didnt get asked to the prom?
Believe me, that’s a better parsing than I thought you were capable of, lol.
59. Alice Nolin,
“Number Two: I don’t know if you’ve ever read something called a newspaper.”
Close Pee Wee moho – Anon – Shawn Ondeen Whatever’s Alice Nolin Twilight Zone Dummy. First do “Number Two” on the paper. Then your “truth” will be on it too.
Van Jones will be proud if you hit the paper. And smearing more “Number Two” on yourself will keep the muggers away, better than your “Courage and Intelligence.”
Sit. Speak. Your funhouse mirror is waiting.
Happy New Year. Whatever.
…even diabetes and childhood obesity is more important than terrorism.
They is ?
Me myself and I is mainly worried about the fact that Barack Hussein Obama has quadrupled the national debt in 11 short months. And that his Porkulus (the portion that hasn’t already been spent on dumb stuff, not the portion that is being held as a slush fund for democrats in 2010) hasn’t stimulated jack.
And then, next on the list, is what feels like increasing national and personal vulnerability under the leadership of a bunch of incompetent, self-serving assorted Chicago thugs & socialists.
And then finally, maybe firstly, I worry about how much damage can be done to the Constitution by a President and his cronies who apparently feel far more comfortable with unions like SEIU and organizations like ACORN than they do with the vast majority of the American people.
@55. baal: – … no wikipedia.
Looks like Moho solved that dilemma by providing no references whatsoever.
Who could have seen that coming.
Lie Number One, Part One: Democrats running the country into the ground recently pushed the federal deficit up to almost $2T – a ~400% increase over last year at this time. Of the current national debt of $12T, just under $800B is owed to China. That’s less than 7%. We are not “owned” by China. Or any other foreign country.
Lie Number One, Part Two: As for defense spending, it went from 3% of GDP to a “whopping” 4% while we decimated al Qaeda in Iraq and pacified Afghanistan (all for nought, since BHO has now effectively surrendered to the islamists). Throughout that time the defense budget remained significantly below historic levels. Defense spending didn’t add a significant burden to federal spending.
Lie Number Two: Home prices fell – and continue to fall – because of the manner in which Democrat wealth redistribution policies corrupted the housing market. The simple solution to this dilemma in the long term is to get the federal government out of the business of using American Taxpayers’ money to underwrite “affordable mortgages” and force it to focus on its Constitutional responsibilities: like defending the country from islamist terror attacks.
Lie Number Three: Jobless increases were predicted back when the Democrats rammed through a minimum wage hike. In fact since 2007, when the Democrat majority took over Congress (which controls federal spending and passes laws governing economic health), the economy has been in steady decline. Go figger. Again, the solution is to abandon Democrat policies aimed at social engineering and force the federal government to do its job, which is to defend this nation, not make federal employees out of the majority of its citizens.
Wow, Taanstafl, you caught a typo. You must be a wiz around the office. I bet you sort out the paper clips for your boss especially well. I am also concerned about Obama’s new addition to the debt–though it certainly hasn’t been quadrupled. The fact you focus your concern on petty organizations–with nearly no consequence good or bad–such as ACORN and SEIU, worrying that they might give somebody a bruise at a rally or whatever it is that makes you throw up your skirt and jump up on daddy’s lap–only accentuates how far your head is up your ass. What have you been doing for the past eight years. Our national debt and maintenance grew by trillions while you were asleep. Meanwhile, our military contractors have absconded with billions of dollars! Billions. It would take three hundred Acorns to do the actual damage perpetrated by the corruption and incompetence of the last decade. Don’t mistake me, no one would mind you teabaggers if you had actually been bitching this way for the last eight years. As soon as you have one of your own in office again, you’ll go back to sleep while your country falls apart around you. Oh, but you got that wascally ACORN, godnabit. Useless and stupid.
The harbingers for domestic terrorism in 2010 are equally if not even more frightening, but we’re not seeing any of this being reported by the American media: http://tinyurl.com/y9tqhl3
#47 & 44
You may know Alice better as jharp. Same psuedo-piquant style gives ole Harpo away.
“jharp:
Maryallene Otis:
“And yes, what we are seeing is an attempt to impose totally government run health care, i.e. socialized medicine.”
You go to hell for lying just as well as for stealing.
And your post is an out and out lie.
Jul 24, 2009 – 12:15 pm”
68. Alice Nolin:You comment about jumping up on daddy’s lap may explain your weight issues and hatred for men….
Alice, darling, now stop fooling around by flirting with those nice gentlemen. You know what the psychiatrist said about that. Come home now, dearest, it is time for your meds. (Sorry, folks, I am at my wits end with my little vixen.) Come home now, light of my life, I have re-cushioned the walls so your room is ready.
Not really a typo “Alice”, just the line I caught since I couldn’t bear to read your tripe in any detail.
Howsomever, someone as fixated as you are on calling people idiots should write perfectly, n’est-ce pas ?
Of course, you completely miss my point re a President who only waxes enthusiastic when he’s with his fellow community organizin’ types or his union (“workers of the world unite !”) buddies.
The rest of the time, he has trouble interrupting his “shout outs” to comment on Ft. Hood or interrupting his golf game to say, oops, contrary to what my DHS said, the crotchbomber WAS a systemic failure.
Anyhoo, didja check out that long list of terrorist acts in the past 2 months alone ? Wouldn’t want to set up any cognitive dissonance in the neat and simplistic set of assumptions that drive those 5 functioning neurons of yours.
Goy, pathetic. I would take issue with the facts around your rebuttal…I said “china…and other countries”…together they own nearly thirty percent of our debt. Indeed, more proof that you’re interested in finger pointing not issues. China’s ownership of the national debt DOUBLED FROM 2007 TO 2009!!!!! Hey, nothing to worry about there…they own close to ten percent of our national debt, a number that doubled in the past two years. Certainly, they’re going to stop there. They also seem to be in a great position to exploit the mineral resources of Afghanistan while we provide security for them to do so. Brilliant!
http://www.optimist123.com/optimist/2009/04/pie-chart-who-owns-the-national-debt.html
But in any case, my point wasn’t who was to blame you idiot. It was what other issues are more important. By god, you’re illiterate, ignorant and apathetic. Watch football instead you ignoramus. That way you can root for the home team while the rest of us try to figure out how to keep our country from blowing up.
Wow, Taanstafl. I thought Goy was lame. Pathetic losers sitting in their crap stained undies chattering their little teeth about the big bad Mooslims and ACORN coming to help them go look for underage prostitutes. Its not even fun to make fun of you idiots anymore; you mock yourselves better than I ever could.
My sympathies, Alfred.
We’ve encountered your wife many times before, she definitely expresses herself in the style of “jharp”.
jharp, we were given to understand, is let out of the jacket for brief periods each day for typing practice.
Magically, every article highlighting the dangers of islamic terrorism causes the trolls to start typing posts like crazy.
I think that the first name of many of our trolls is Muhammed, or something like that.
I think that their posting here is part of the war to weaken America.
I think we shouldn’t answer to their delirious posts.
TO: misanthropicus, et al.
RE: AGAIN!!!!!
It’s Worse….
….than I originally thought, now that I’ve thought on it further, since reading it initially.
The point being that if this ‘administration’ is seizing bloggers computers….because said bloggers pointed out failings of this ‘administration’….
….what we are witnessing is this ‘administration’ violating the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights.
How so?
Because in this day and age, i.e., vis-a-vis the internet, this ‘administration’ is violating Freedom of Speech. If you cut someone off from commenting on the internet, from a governmental perspective, you are effectively nullifying the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights.
I don’t CARE if Amy Alkon won’t allow me to comment on HER web-site. It’s hers to run as she deems ‘proper’. The same goes for Charles Johnson and the bimbo who runs Tim Blair’s web-site. They have the right to contain comments to whomever they please. And ‘kill’ anyone who crosses them in an effective manner.
BUT….when the federal government does such….
….we’re talking about SERIOUS issues. The sort of issues that Rush Limbaugh commented on when he said….
The reason for the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States is when the government disobeys the First.
And I ask….
….are we witnessing that with Nappy’s shutting down bloggers?
If that IS the case….
….Gird up your loins. — Psalms
Happy New Year,
Chuck(le)
[An oppressive government is more to be feared than a tiger. -- Aristotle]
@74. “Alice Nolin”: – …pathetic
You most certainly are. Nothing new there.
- I would take issue with the facts around your rebuttal…
Heh. You might try. But you can’t even remember or go back and read your own post. So you’d fail. Just like you failed when you claimed “Mary Steiner” wrote something “she” never wrote.
Here’s what you wrote up above: “We are owned by China, you idiot.” We are not owned by China. You lied. You’re the idiot. QED.
Furthermore, the hilarious irony buried in the item you chose to display your ignorance and inability to grasp the significance of foreign debt is this: by investing in the U.S., the Chinese helped finance the very military action that they, the French and the Russians tried so hard to thwart via their respective quislings in the U.N. back in 2002. So in fact Americans’ net cost for that action was actually pennies (interest) on the dollar. I call that a twofer.
- China’s ownership of the national debt DOUBLED FROM 2007 TO 2009!!!!!
When you decide what your point is there, let us know. Meanwhile, you’re talking about an increase that occurred while the Democrat majority was running Congress and mismanaging the nation’s finances. More proof they are the ones running the nation into the ground (at least by your risible ‘standards’).
- …my point wasn’t who was to blame you idiot.
Of course it was. You tried to hide that point by pretending there are more important things the federal government should be doing other than addressing islamist terrorism.
The problem, for you, is that the “priorities” you picked are indicative of the stuff the feds have already been doing. Things like stealing my money to finance affordable mortgages, taking over private industry, bribing politicians to push through socialized medicine that the majority of America doesn’t want, driving unemployment higher by increasing burdens on small business, pissing away hundreds of billions of stolen and borrowed dollars on social engineering programs and paying for political favors… None of that is in their job description. The one thing that IS in their job description is protecting the citizens of this country.
All in all, a Big Fail for you.
Human sacrifice in Islam http://seanrobsville.blogspot.com/2009/12/human-sacrifice-in-islam.html
TO: All
RE: More Information….
….HERE!
As I was trying to say to misanthorpicus, et al., this looks like an outright effort to silence critics of the ‘administration’ by seizing their ability to communicate with the outside world.
This, in my honestly held opinion, is an outright violation of the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth is coming out....]
Oh brother, Goy, you really have no sense of dignity. You might as well drop your panties and show us your little dingy now, that’s really all you’re doing here.
Dan at 60,
It’s important you understand the facts. This incident didn’t occur because security failed to detect the PETN explosive. It occured because the intelligence agency didn’t adequately warn the security personel to look out for this guy, pull him out of line and put him through an interogation and bodysearch. Intelligence knew he was out there, they didn’t put out enough of an alert.
The only other possibility is that security didn’t listen to the alert and pick him out when he went through security or the boarding pass aquisition process.
Either way your government run by President Obama was negligent. The average 6th grader with the information would have been looking at every Nigerian male queing for the flight. The punk’s father had actually supplied us with his name, for Pete’s sake.
http://truthandcommonsense.com/2009/12/31/this-i-believe-ive-seen-it-at-the-local-level-obamas-reset-gives-green-light-to-look-the-over-way/
The author and a number of posters here have identified the problem. As I said before I spent the last year of my time in law enforcement tasked to a intelligence unit. It was a frightening experience. About the time you think you know what is going on it changes. The problem with government bureaucrats is at least two-fold. One- they are usually an unimaginative bunch, especially the people at the top, Two- they are very focused on keeping their jobs and careers on track regardless of the potential losses. Now inside that mix are a small percentage of hard working, hard charging good guys who would sacrifice everything to save one life. Sadly, they are dispersed among those who just don’t think that way.
My post links to the American Spectator story about how the Obama administration encouraged the people involved in screening potential threats not to look so hard anymore. The whole “reset” he pushed as part of his foreign policy. You will never be able to tell how many lives will be lost because of this change in attitude due to point #2 above. I’ve seen this happen at the local level more than once. I’ve also seen my bosses simply unable to envision a new threat. When I say unable, it would have been easier to teach a two year old Mandarin Chinese than to get some of the entrenched bosses to re-think their worldview. If I had a dime for every time I heard, “We’ve never done that, we don’t do that now, and we don’t need to do that in the future.” I would be sipping drinks on a beach in Fiji.
Ron Paul is a good example of man who hears only his own voice. Sometimes he’s right, maybe by accident, but when he’s wrong it is a lost cause to prove it to him.
In this second post, I spend some time explaining why the next threat is going to be domestic. Frankly, I’m shocked that we haven’t had more attacks in this open society of ours. It isn’t the anti-terrorism agencies fault either. We are just an open society and have to accept the risks that come with it.
http://truthandcommonsense.com/2009/12/30/glenn-becks-guest-host-misses-the-point-churches-are-a-heck-of-a-good-soft-target/
Without telling too much I suggest you all read a novel written by Tom Clancy called “Teeth of the Tiger.” As usual Clancy was ahead of the game when he wrote it. There are threats easing their way across our borders all the time. Why they haven’t attacked in an organized fashion a church or a mall is a mystery. But as I said in my post, it may have been due to the violent reaction we had after 9-11. Let’s be honest, the bad guys are humans too. Not all are blind jihadists. Some are in it for the money, some the power, some the chicks (KSM comes to mind). I wonder if the political arm of the Islamic terrorists decided that death from a thousand cuts, of which many we would call “criminal acts” is better than hitting us so hard we do something crazy like conquer two nations, kill one leader, and run the rest into the mountains with a month of carpet bombing. Even the dumbest bad guys has to be writing “Note to self, no more killing three thousand at a time, it REALLY pisses them off.”
Which brings us to the “reset” Obama insists on following. Will his wishy-washy attitude embolden the terrorists? If there is no downside to domestic terror beyond arrest and a government provided lawyers, what is there to stop them from attacking a church and holding hostages like Belsan?
I am afraid we’ll know soon enough as they calculate what OBama’s breaking point is. They knew if they tried it with Bush they’d be dodging Hellfires for the rest of their days. Obama may just give up and surrender.
Time will tell.
@82. “Alice Nolin”: – Oh brother…
You’ve offered up yet another non-substantive response – with a dash of desperation and a pinch of projection to boot.
Go back to misquoting Madison and lying about your days hanging with Van Jones, tiny. At least that had a modicum of entertainment value.
TO: All
RE: Others….
….are are picking up on the significance of DHS’s going after critical bloggers.
Happy New Year,
Chuck(le)
[May you live in interesting times. -- Ancient Chinese curse]
You’ve offered up yet another non-substantive response
That’s probably what you hear any time you drop your pants. I responded to your post once, that’s all you get this time around I’m afraid. If you want to read it again here it is, you offered nothing worth commenting to in response. My original post was a response to the poster who asked me this:
In specific, which issues are more important than terrorism, why is that and what would you do about them? What would you propose we do about terrorism?
Which, as I noted, is such an asinine and ludicrous question as to not merit serious response. I answered the question anyway, with those issues that are, by any fair stretch of the imagination the most pressing issues are nation faces. STFU, already you ignorant loudmouth. Yes, we know you are stupid, you can stop advertising that fact now.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/2009-tipping-point-for-domestic-terror/#comment-74
Goy, pathetic. I would take issue with the facts around your rebuttal…I said “china…and other countries”…together they own nearly thirty percent of our debt. Indeed, more proof that you’re interested in finger pointing not issues. China’s ownership of the national debt DOUBLED FROM 2007 TO 2009!!!!!…But in any case, my point wasn’t who was to blame you idiot. It was what other issues are more important.
Well, alice nolin/jharp- again I ask, if you hate this site so much, why do you come here? Is it your assigned site fom lil georgie soros? Are you so screwed up you have to come here to torture yourself? I bet you got picked on/ beat up a lot when you were a little kid. . .To everyone else (and even you,alice) Happy New Year!! May the LORD be merciful to us this year, in spite of ourselves. Stock up on ammo, and hang on!
RE #82 etc./Hysterical aka Alice Nolin:
When we have:
1) Gen McChrystal having to wait for 4 months for a approval and help from Afghanistan in circumstances worsening day-in-day-out -
2) When we have the US GA Eric “when-it-comes-to-birth-certificates-we-are-a-coward-country” focusing on suing some CIA operatives who just did their job of defending America -
3) When on this background we have also 8 CIA operatives killed in Afghanistan while dba Obama is smoking his crack pipe in Hawaii -
5) When the approval rate of the, anyway illegitimate, dba Obama is diving to %40, and clearly will go under %40 in the next few weeks,
… certainly there is much anxiety amongs the Obamatons, and …
who you gonna call?
Hysterical himself! (aka Alice Nolin), whose unhinged rhetoric betrays a deep despair, and whose sole available tactic in this matter is to wave left and right red herrings, trying to distract anyone from the real issue which is…
… Obama’s deep incompetence which is behind all these miseries -Make no mistake, Hysterical (aka Alice Nolin) couldn’t care less about the issues he’s yelling about – his objective is to move the focus from Obama seditious comportament and incompetence to something else -
Hysterical, it doesn’t work – maybe Kochevnik and others of his mental caliber consider you an act but you just don’t get traction -
Hysterical, keep trying, though – maybe you’ll suffocate in the
middle of one of your tirades -
Heheheh -
Bye, Hysterical -keep on truckin’ -
I wonder if the political arm of the Islamic terrorists decided that death from a thousand cuts, of which many we would call “criminal acts” is better than hitting us so hard we do something crazy like conquer two nations, kill one leader, and run the rest into the mountains with a month of carpet bombing. Even the dumbest bad guys has to be writing “Note to self, no more killing three thousand at a time, it REALLY pisses them off.”
Whereas I’d assume bin laden et al. are still looking to repeat the large scale act of slaughter, I also think they may (rightly) assume that the infidel (under the politically correct gobbleygook propounded by its heads of state & much of its citizenry) is doing a pretty good job sabotaging himself.
Good God!! Yes, 2010 is going to be bad. Americans wrapped up in reality shows, the govt. still has not fixed the levey’s in N.Orleans, but there is a silver lining. People are organizing & it’s good.
There is a new book just out about a small town in America where they stand up to corrupt/career politicians & end up starting the 2nd American Revolution. It’s powerful & I’ve been recommending it to everyone to read cause 2010 is upon us & the people are tired of career politicians, political parties that ignore us.
History may be calling upon us in 2010 to fulfill our destiny & leave a legacy. It’s that good of a book & a must read for 2010.
http://www.booksbyoliver.com
I’d like to see the numbers. Not that I disagree, but a chart showing terrorism arrests (not deaths) in the USA from say 2001 to 2009 would be very helpful. Is such data available on the web?
#6 has the correct hypothesis. The weaker the US appears the more terrorism we would expect to see based on the nature of Islam. If terrorism arrests have significantly risen in 2009, it would be fair to conclude Islam sees Obama as weak.
Obama should be obliterating terrorism camps in Yemen right about now. If he doesn’t respond forcefully, we can expect an exponential increase in attacks and arrests.
Buckle-up.
Let’s see, in 1990 there weere 10,000 muslims in the US. In 2009, there are 9,000,000. That alone says something.
Compared to Alice and kochevnik, jharp and David S. make sense.
Clay Marley:
“#6 has the correct hypothesis. The weaker the US appears the more terrorism we would expect to see based on the nature of Islam”
Absolutely – and killing a couple of hundred thousand people in iraq, and bombing villages in afghanistan wouldn’t have any effect at all.
“If terrorism arrests have significantly risen in 2009, it would be fair to conclude Islam sees Obama as weak”
Alternatively, if terrorism arrests have significantly FALLEN in 2009, you could also conclude that obama is weak on terrorism.
FYI there is an Arabic saying that a man who goes about without a sword is not a man of peace because he entices attack upon himself. The Obama message in a nutshell, in his Cairo speech and Al-Arabiyya interview, is that he goes about without a sword.
In my worst nightmares:
The terror attacks increase in 2010 because of the weakness showed by 0bama & Co.
There is finally one very successful one that causes 9/11 levels of damage.
The backlash towards Muslims becomes very violent.
0bama Cloward-Piven’s this into national suspension of civil rights & martial law, suspension of the 2010 elections, Congress is dissolved and the 1st National Socialist in the form of BHO in the WH.
Like I said, my worst nightmares.
But it does appear the tail is wagging the dog these days.
Ragnar #97
A crisis is precisely what’s called for, as you say, in good Cloward-Piven strategy of overwhelming the system.
Thereby necessitating the loving takeover by the federales and the suspension of civil liberties.
This administration is severely disappointed (trust me
) that all their hyperventilating about the coming H1N1 disaster hasn’t materialized as one of the crises they’d looked forward to.
STFU, already you ignorant loudmouth.
Why don’t you just go away and never come back? Your rude comments contribute nothing of any value here. If you have to peddle hate, do it elsewhere.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Obama has recently & quietly signed an Executive Order granting Interpol immunity from American law.
A cynic might say that Interpol’s files have been ruled sacrosanct & not subject to FOIA because they have one on Obama.
An alarmist would find a deeper motive, in keeping with the agenda of this President, his Attorney General Eric Holder, his legal advisor Harold Koh and assorted hangers on (e.g., Samantha Power & husband Cass Sunstein) to supersede the Constitution & subject the United States to the vicissitudes of international law and the ICC.
Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law?
(see also link at the bottom of this one to Threats Watch)
100…yeah, everyone knows immunity is reserved for Blackwater.
everyone knows immunity is reserved for Blackwater.
What an idiotic comment, how long did it take you to cut + paste it from your daily Sorosian e-mail?
Blackwater seems nothing less than a Christofascist terror organization enacting the Vatican’s edicts:
The two declarations are each five pages long and contain a series of devastating allegations concerning Erik Prince and his network of companies, which now operate under the banner of Xe Services LLC. Among those leveled by Doe #2 is that Prince “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe”:
To that end, Mr. Prince intentionally deployed to Iraq certain men who shared his vision of Christian supremacy, knowing and wanting these men to take every available opportunity to murder Iraqis. Many of these men used call signs based on the Knights of the Templar, the warriors who fought the Crusades.
Mr. Prince operated his companies in a manner that encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life. For example, Mr. Prince’s executives would openly speak about going over to Iraq to “lay Hajiis out on cardboard.” Going to Iraq to shoot and kill Iraqis was viewed as a sport or game. Mr. Prince’s employees openly and consistently used racist and derogatory terms for Iraqis and other Arabs, such as “ragheads” or “hajiis.”
50. JPL17: I will try to fix up your data and hope that the comments does not render it gibberish. I am using table HTML but those tags might not work with this forums software, it depends on what is allowed HTML
AttacksKilledInjuredTotal
200217219
2003202
2004268
2005000
200671118
2007549
2008303
2009163349
Total5256108
Oh well I tried but it appears that it failed and since I can’t edit it then it just bombed out but at least I know tables do not work in these forums, they do on some, but not this one.
TO: Steve DeMarcus, et al.
RE: This ‘System’….
….e.g., Pajamas Media….
….has ‘issues’ ALL OVER the place.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out....]
#103 Hootchie Kootchie say: “Blackwater seems nothing less than a Christofascist terror organization…”
But then Hootchie Kootchie oddly (because he is doing the same thing) complains: “Mr. Prince’s employees openly and consistently used racist and derogatory terms for Iraqis and other Arabs, such as “ragheads” or “hajiis.””
Guess dopey doesn’t think “Christofasscist terror organization” is a derogatory term; is that even possible?
RE #103/kochevnik:
[...] a Christofascist terror organization enacting the Vatican’s edicts: [...] “views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe”: [...]his vision of Christian supremacy, [...] the Knights of the Templar, the warriors who fought the Crusades. [...] used racist and derogatory terms for Iraqis and other Arabs, such as “ragheads” or “hajiis.” [...]
Kochy, I’m really shaken – boy, if there is one who knows how to awake Americans and Europeans with revelations in matters Islam, that’s you buddy!
Again, I’m totaly shaken! Listen, do me a favor and let me know how can I apply for a MoveOnOrg membership? I’ll place you character wittness, they’ll give you some McDonald vouchers -
By Golly – glad am I that I heard Kochy clearing this Islam matter – now I understand it and I am a new man!
Good job, Kochy! Keep enlightening around!
108@misanthropicus
Uh yeah sure whatever you say there sport BAHHHHWAAAAHHHHH!
107@Fred Beloit
>Guess dopey doesn’t think “Christofasscist terror organization” is a
>derogatory term; is that even possible?
Who cares if “Christofasscist terror organization” is derogatory if it’s accurate? Only a fascist fundie. And thanks for the name-calling, which accents your childlike mind ironically encased in a withering, wrinkling husk.
Fred@107, Misanthropicus@108: When you attempt to debate with koch you lower yourself to his depraved and dishonest level. I understand the urge to correct him, but as you see it is useless. He (or she) does not think rationally nor know what truth is: It is whatever he (or Kos, CAP or MM) deem it to be. He is programmed to react and retort.
Koch (moho, or DS or N&T, or Tom, Glesga) or whatever he/she goes by is just a tool of the left-a “useful idiot.”
@87. Alice Nolin: – …I noted, is such an asinine and ludicrous question as to not merit serious response. I answered the question anyway…
So you it turns out you’re not only a liar, given that your response was deceitful, but pathetic as well, inasmuch as you chose to respond to (what you claim was) an asinine and ludicrous question.
Well played.
110@blotto
Blotto you just described a conservative. Any other profound bits of enlightenment you wish to share? If not, go to the back of the class.