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You Still Don’t Understand Islamism, Do You?

January 8th, 2014 - 5:57 pm

Following is what I predicted in my 1980 book Paved With Good Intentions: The American Experience and Iran:

United States-Iranian relations could not possibly have been worse in the months following November 4, 1979. From the American point of view, the central problem was obtaining the release of fifty-three American diplomats being held hostage at the American Embassy in Tehran. To the Iranians the capture of the American Embassy and its occupants marked a successful end to one revolution and the opening shots of a second. For Iran, like Russia in 1917, was to undergo both a February and a November revolution–the first a political struggle to unseat the old regime, the second a social, economic, and cultural revolution to build a new Islamic society.

In Iran’s case, it was the fundamentalist mullahs and their Islamic Republican Party who were seeking to achieve what the Bolsheviks had done in Russia–monopolize power. Like Lenin, Khomeini would in time turn against moderate segments of the revolutionary coalition and purge their members from positions of authority; like the Bolsheviks, the fundamentalists, once in power, would refuse to compromise with those ethnic movements that had aided the revolution; and like the Leninists, Khomeini’s supporters would try to create a totalistic structure, subsuming into their ideological framework all aspects of national life, from the courts to the schools, from the military to the conduct of commerce, and even the daily behavior of the citizenry.

Thus, the United States and Iran, two countries whose friendship had begun with such high expectations and whose relations had included fine moments of selfless cooperation as well as many shameful episodes of corruption and insensitivity, were now the bitterest of enemies.

In 2014, I am convinced that the leadership of the Iranian Islamist regime still feels the same way, just as American policy makers still don’t understand that nice verbiage has not changed anything. Note that President Ronald Reagan sending the Iranians a key-shaped cake — supposedly to symbolize the “opening” of U.S.-Iranian relations — also demonstrated little understanding of Iranian extremism.

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This situation with "moderate" muslims has a parallel in history. In the run-up to WW II, Joseph Grew, the American ambassador to Japan, counseled the Roosevelt administration not to aggressively counter imperialistic Japanese ambitions in Asia, because it would undermine the "moderate" Japanese who really wanted peace.

As it turned out, there were no "moderate" Japanese, at least none who were willing to oppose the Japanese militarists.
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What's the difference between a Radical Muslim and most Moderate Muslims? Radical Muslims want to kill all Kafirs. Moderate Muslims want Radical Muslims to kill all Kafirs. What's a Kafir? You are.
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The real problem is that politicians see islam as good & christianity bad now. Some musim guy murderers soldiers in the army. Gov't pretends it's workplace violence. They never, never, ever get it. The pooh bahs in the pentagon are even worse. The fact that we have an active muslim as head of our cia speaks volumnes. The fact is that muslims in the gov't or military are a great security risk as history has proved over & over again. No muslim should be allowed in any US military branch, to serve in gov't or be in any police forces. They simply are not loyal & will always lie, as is permitted in islam, to further islamic interests at the cost of their loyalty. The intentional naivete of our gov't in dealing w/ muslim nations such as iran, saudi arabia, pakistan, et al is simply astounding. And, they will reap the result of the stupidity they have sewed...it is just a matter of time.
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BhObama tactic is to buy out Iran hostility , by letting Teheran build all the necessary tools for nukes.Obama has only one idea ; to do business again with Iran no matter what will be the outcome of his appeasement shameful geneva agreement.BhO and his team are either inept, or irrespsonsible or even worse accomplices of Iran expansive and aggressive policy.We shall see to whom is left the gauntlet to stop iran; Saudi Arabia is the no.1 target of Teheran expansion.Israel is no.2 target.Guess who will move first ?
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Everything we needed to know about Islam we learned on 9/11.
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Also check out Frank Gaffney (Secure Freedom Radio)'s interview with John Guandolo, a former Marine Reconnaissance Office who holds seminars for police and intelligence officers about the Jihad/MB threat. A real eye opener. The massive trove of MB information found in a raid over a decade ago - information which laid out their whole strategy for the US - has been suppressed by the upper echelons.
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And let us not forget that Islam was allied with the Nazis in WWII as well, united by their hatred of Jews and their totalitarian mindset.
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This situation with "moderate" muslims has a parallel in history. In the run-up to WW II, Joseph Grew, the American ambassador to Japan, counseled the Roosevelt administration not to aggressively counter imperialistic Japanese ambitions in Asia, because it would undermine the "moderate" Japanese who really wanted peace.

As it turned out, there were no "moderate" Japanese, at least none who were willing to oppose the Japanese militarists.
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There are some things that require genius or near genius intellect such as rocket science, brain surgery or highest level mathematics but not so for determining the intent of Islam - any Islam. It's all right there in their book.

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"

There is another book that offers a bit of common sense. Matthew 7:16. "But by their fruit you will know them. Do they gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles?"

1400 years of thorns and thistles should be enough for anyone with the slightest bit of common sense to see the intent of Islam.

If Western Civilization survives, and that is by no means a certainty, future historians will look upon this generation extremely unfavorably when it is obvious that we had the wherewithal to, if not eliminate the cancer of Islam, at least marginalize it to where is no longer a threat.


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The main problem, even under President Bush, is that we only declared war on al-Qaeda and similar Islamic Jihad terror groups. The United States never declared political war against Political Islam. Our Founding Fathers were not so blind or so stupid - they understood that we are only obliged to tolerate religions which are not a threat to our God-given rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, and our Constitution which secures our natural human rights. We are not obliged to tolerate totalitarian Political Islam - we must become officially and legally intoleratnt of totalitarian Political Islam.

“In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practiced, and, both by precept and example, inculcated on mankind. And it is now generally agreed among Christians that this spirit of toleration, in the fullest extent consistent with the being of civil society, is the chief characteristical mark of the Church. Insomuch that Mr. Locke has asserted and proved, beyond the possibility of contradiction on any solid ground, that such toleration ought to be extended to all whose doctrines are not subversive of society. The only sects which he thinks ought to be, and which by all wise laws are excluded from such toleration, are those who teach doctrines subversive of the civil government under which they live [Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights and Constitution].” Samuel Adams

http://history.hanover.edu/texts/adamss.html

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The West's problem is our concept of separation of Church and State.

At some point in their long histories, all Jews and Christians have found the full power of the State arrayed against them. During those periods they developed what we now regard as a healthy respect for the idea that the State should not involve itself in the religious affairs of its citizens. Your religion is between you and God and the State should butt out. This concept is now an integral part of our thinking. And we behave as if this concept is universally accepted. It is not.

Islam's history is very different. From its founding, Islam moved from success to success. Despite military setbacks, There was hardly any period in its history where Islam was NOT both the religion AND the State in the areas it controlled. It never was 'persecuted'. So it never developed a concept of separation of Church and State. Religion is NOT a private matter between you and God. In fact, such a thing is anathema.

Until the West realizes this difference it will consistently mis-read Islam.
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The irony, though, is that the Christianity that Islam dealt with for 700 years was as theocratic as Islam, at least at the time of Islam's initial conquest of the MENA. There is good evidence that the greatest contributor to Islam's easy conquests in the Levant, Egypt, and Roman Africa was the tribulations imposed by the Byzantine Empire and the Orthodox Church over various heresies. Jews, Arians, Copts, adherents to Monophysite belief were all brutally persecuted and many found conversion to Islam or dhimmitude preferable to Byzantine religious persecution.

Unfortunately, internal religious conflicts so hampered governance of the Byzantine Empire that it was rarely united enough to effectively oppose the Muslims. It finally fell to the Roman Catholics of the West to stop Muslim incursions into Europe.
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Cite your evidence, please.
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If the Obama Administration were acting as agents of Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood, what would they do differently?
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