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It’s Time to Tell the Truth About the ‘Peace Process’

June 27th, 2013 - 5:19 pm

There are two phony arguments raised by those who believe Israel obstructs the peace it desperately needs: settlements, and demography. It should take only a moment to dispel this nonsense. These arguments must be pushed out of the mainstream debate by ridicule and insult.

Can settlements be blocking a successful peace process? Of course not. If the Palestinians were so discomfited by construction of settlements they would logically want to accelerate the peacemaking process. This is what King Hussein of Jordan warned them about at the 1984 Palestine National Council meeting. Hurry and get peace, he said, before the settlement process has gone forward too long. They ignored the advice; they weren’t in any hurry.

Again, though, if settlements are gobbling up the land perhaps to the point of no return, shouldn’t the Palestinians demand negotiations immediately instead of refusing to talk for a dozen years and setting countless preconditions that seem to become more demanding as any previous ones are met?

Then we have the bogus demographic issue. The Gaza Strip and West Bank are not part of Israel. Nobody today seeks annexation. Palestinians — except those who live in Israel’s borders — are never going to be citizens of Israel. Ironically, let’s remember, it is the Palestinians who demand that they, through the fictional “right of return,” get to be Israelis.

Bill Clinton recently said, with total ignorance:

Is it really okay with you if Israel has a majority of its people living within your territory that are not now, and never will be, allowed to vote?

They do not live within Israel’s territory. Therefore, the question does not arise and it will never arise.

Israel has not annexed and never will annex the Gaza Strip and West Bank. No one thinks the Palestinians there are citizens and they do not want to be citizens. In fact, they vote in their own elections, or at least once did so, and live under their own government and laws. How could anyone not understand this?

Finally, there is the never-addressed issue of what I call “the day after.” Let’s face it: the Obama administration and its predecessors have made — how can I put this politely? — some mistakes with the Middle East. They have often urged Israel towards very dangerous, even suicidal courses. They have not always been faithful to allies.

Are these the best-informed, best-intentioned, most trustworthy people to follow?

Perhaps it is possible that Israeli leaders actually do know more about the Middle East and their people’s interests than does Washington (and Western journalists and “experts”). Perhaps Israel’s people, as shown by their own repeated votes in free elections, are better informed than those thousands of miles away who never lived through this history, and understandably don’t put Israeli interests first.

After all, these are policymakers who have just formed alliances with a former Nazi collaborator (the Muslim Brotherhood) and other groups which preach genocide against all Jews, hate the West, hate Christians, want to murder gays, and to make women second-class citizens.

Would you listen to advice by people who do such things?

Moreover, what would happen the day after a successfully negotiated two-state solution? If cross-border terror attacks began, would the United States act decisively to condemn the Palestinian regime? Could it “fix” the problem of a Palestinian state that did not live up to its commitments?

What about a state that was taken over by a Hamas coup or even a Hamas electoral victory, which happened in the last Palestinian election? Suddenly, Israel would be ringed by a Hamas-ruled Palestinian state that rejected peace; a Muslim-Brotherhood ruled Egypt and perhaps Syria; and a Hizballah-ruled Lebanon.

Do you think that two-state solution or even peace would long endure?

What about a Palestinian state that invited in the armies of neighboring Arab states or Iran, with their weapons or large numbers of advisors?

In short, would Israel be better off making agreements with those who have little intention of implementing their agreements, as has often been the case before, and taking advice from those who urge them to make such a deal but can and will do nothing significant to enforce it?

No.

Clinton said that Israel needs peace to survive. Yet the situation is one in which a certain type of peace would endanger survival. What Israel wants is a two-state solution that brings real peace and that would enhance survival. Why is there never any talk about the quality of the peace?

But finally here is the key concept, as voiced by the Huffington Post’s article on Clinton’s speech:

It underscored a chasm between the country’s official support for creating an independent Palestinian state and the hard-line opponents who dominate Israel’s ruling coalition.

The problem is the word “opponents.” Israel would be happy to create an independent Palestinian state that resulted in an end to the conflict. It was ready to do so at the 2000 Camp David meeting, but the Palestinian leadership then, and since, refused to say that even a two-state solution would permanently end the conflict. It would merely initiate the next round of a battle pursuing total elimination of Israel. This is not an ideological but a strategic issue. Wishful thinking and arguments like “if you don’t work for peace you won’t get it” are fine for the words of bystanders. They would be disastrous for actual policy.

Incidentally, the three most “soft-line” supporters of creating an independent state have been Yitzhak Rabin, Shimon Peres, and Ehud Barak. These men learned vividly the same lessons that their political opponents did.

The real blockage to peace comes from the Palestinian leadership (including Hamas and their open preference of massacring all Israelis) and the realities of the strategic situation.

Is this a right-wing position? No, it is just a recognition of reality. As I noted above, everyone knows it, and if they don’t there are three possible reasons:

1. They want to bash Israel and subvert Israel’s relations with the West and they know what they are doing.

2. They are ignorant about the region or at least very much out of date. And this goes for those ruled by wishful thinking.

3. They think that by pretending peace is possible they can make the Arabs feel that the United States is trying to help the Palestinians, and that therefore most Arabs and Muslims will think better of them and radical Islamists will like America.

Israelis know that since this is a firm belief in the West, keeping their mouths shut makes it easier to get along with those people who are in power in the West. And this goes for those ruled by wishful thinking, though proportionately far fewer than in the West.

It also goes for those who would gladly welcome a real, viable two-state solution but know that one is decades off, and has been made more difficult by the radicalism unleashed by the supposedly moderating “Arab Spring.”

Ironically, the current narrative was put in place in the 1990s precisely because an Israel that was striving for a two-state solution gave peace a chance. The effort proved to Israelis that the Palestinian leadership wasn’t ready to make peace. The effort made the rest of the world think that the Palestinians were victims, desperate for peace. Committing terrorism must have been a cry for help.

Arafat rejected peace; Israel was falsely blamed for rejecting peace even though the facts were well-known to people like Bill Clinton ,who even said so in early 2000.

Fixing this political disaster is not a matter of politics, but of starting the difficult task of correcting the narrative.

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The West has to understand a very basic, common sense thing - the territories are the only bargaining chip Israel has. If we give it up in advance, as precondition to negotiations like the Arabs and Obama now demand, then the only matters left for negotiations are the Arab demands and we'll have nothing to offer in exchange. Why on earth would they ever give up the demand to resettle millions of Muslim-Arabs inside Israel if they already have the land and there's nothing more they can get from us in return for their concessions. Why would they make any concessions if the West is willing to give them everything they want without demanding anything in return?

And just for the record, I've supported the Oslo agreement and the two (three) state solution, but eventually I had to wake up. I might be dumb, but not THAT dumb.

When our "peace partners" openly say in Arabic that the so-called "peace" process is nothing but a ploy, educate their children that the entire land from the river to the sea, that is including Israel, is theirs and that they should engage in jihad to "liberate" it - that is Israel - from the Jews, when their official maps show no Israel, but their own flag instead of Israel, when their media disseminate extreme anti-Israel and anti-Jewish propaganda, including blood libels, absurd conspiracy theories, and genocidal ideas, when they demand to flood Israel with millions of thusly brainwashed Jew-haters as a condition for "peace", and when all that is accompanied by thousands of terror and rocket attacks, even an idiot like me can finally see that these people don't mean peace. So why should I give them as a unilateral concession more land from which to attack us more effectively?
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Some battles cannot be won with words.
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When we have 1.5 billion Muslims and countless millions of leftists spewing antisemitic propaganda day in day out, Israel is left fighting a constant uphill battle to counter narrative.

But this is the same vindictive narrative we fight as Conservatives, constant lies, propaganda and obfuscations from the leftists and the Islamists.
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Hamas told PA Pres. Mahmoud Abbas not to talk with Israel (Peace Negotgiations). In today's Berliner Morgenpost is an article about Turkey's PM Erdogan paying finally a visit to Gaza (when the time is right-he met Gaza's PM and Political Bureau Chief in Ankara)- then China wants to get into the peace negotiations (taking its cue from Iran which is selling more oil than ever to China). US Secr.of State shuttled between Amman,Jordan and Jerusalem,Israel meeting each party 3 times. Latest from PA Pres.Abbas- '67 borders,prisoner release,moratorium in building in J'lem and environs (the same old,the same old). What has changed in EU- their unemployment,especially young, new refugees arriving (Syrians on top of Libyans,Egyptians,Moroccans,) and money is tight to squander on the perpetual Palestinian refugees generation after generation). First now one sees the Hamas kids' summer camps teaching with EU monies how to snare Israeli soldiers over border- Turkey is doing actually Israel a favor for revealing its Islamization neoOttoman style putting down protests with the Ottoman Fist. The State of Israel has a first obligation to its citizens to defend them against enemies to guarantee their very survival. Mahmoud Abbas -nom de guerre Abu Mazen should have years ago been brought to a court as a murderer,faciliator,abettor etc. -in Jordan, in Lebanon,in Israel, in Germany (1972 Munich Olympic Games- also in US of A). Time for Kinbg Abdullah to claim the Hashemite Kingdom in Mecca and Medina (he is one of the parties now for the peace negotiations)
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So why do we continually hear statements from all sorts of Leftists and even so-called "moderates" - Livni comes to mind - that the peace process is real and just mishandled? So all of the columnists, and Livni's entire campaign, are all fake? They're all just lying to us Israelis? I cannot stand these people, I think they're all a bunch of bigots, but I find it hard to be that cynical.

Not that your underlying points are wrong; peace and a peace agreement are pretty much opposite things.
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This has happened before. According to Jung Chang's "Mao", Eisenhower pressured Change Kai-Shek to advance "liberals" and lay off on Mao. The result was the fall of Nationalist China and murder of 70 Million people.

Can it happen here (Israel)? Unfortunately, yes.

Now I need to go fill out by Foreign Bank Account Report to prove to American Government that my household bank accounts and my pension at work is not money laundering. :-)
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Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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And, unfortunately, vice-versa.
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Barry, everything you said is true, and it needs to be said. Thank you. And yet this same kind of double-talk and double-think is now widespread in everything from Obamacare to gay marriage to the federal reserve, cliches are used and not questioned, debate and facts are simply not accepted. This goes beyond the double-think of Orwell's 1984 and straight to the madhouse.

Maybe that's why your politician friends lie publicly, the only way to deal with the madness is to throw yourself into the act. Rationality is just out of style.
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There can never be peace in the Middle East, the Islamist hate the Isreali's more then they hate each other. Killing and hatred is all they know.
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To be fair, they've been killing Jews here in the name of socialism and Ba'thism (a kind of Arab Nazism created by an Orthodox Christian and prounded by Saddam and Assad) also.
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Why shouldn't leftists favor islamists and oppose Israel? After all, Israel is civilized.
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*world
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