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As Obama Continues Israel Visit, His Themes Are Reinforced

March 21st, 2013 - 5:38 pm

The other development was Obama’s visit to Ramallah. There he gave a message to the PA leadership that also preached the benefits of a two-state solution. He even referred to Israel as a Jewish state, which was a significant phrase.

In response, however, Abbas made it clear that he would only negotiate with Israel if certain preconditions were met, including a new freeze on construction within existing Jewish settlements on the West Bank, and also Israel providing its final proposal for where the border should be. Presumably, if Israel seeks to change the pre-1967 borders, Abbas will not come to the negotiating table.

I wonder if Obama and his advisors noticed two things about Abbas’ statement; I think they did.

First: the last time Obama got Israel to do a freeze, Abbas did not negotiate seriously, leaving Obama looking foolish. Netanyahu cooperated; Abbas and the Arabic-speaking regimes didn’t. So why should Obama fall for the same trick twice?

Second: the situation is similar to what happened early in Obama’s first term when Abbas arrived in Washington and gave an interview to Jackson Diehl of the Washington Post, making it clear that he was not interested in negotiating with Israel. Abbas has given several interviews recently in which he explicitly stated that now that the UN General Assembly has declared Palestine a “non-member state,” he doesn’t need to negotiate with Israel.

In other words, Obama’s trip to Ramallah reinforced his view that the “peace process” is going nowhere, and he cannot expect the PA to cooperate with any big effort by him to try to get talks going.

So why should Obama bother to pressure Israel in trying to push ahead?

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I don't understand these "negotiations".

What are the Palestinians asked to give? What is it that they will assure, and how will they assure it?

Obama is so willing to ask someone else to give up land for nothing, I say let's give up California to Israel. For nothing. Let them simply have it.

We will have peace. And finally, some good deli in Orange County.

We sure aren't doing anything with it anyway. But, no more US settlements in East LA. That's a precondition. If we desire peace so much, let's prove it. Enough talk. Give Israel the state of California. Tear down everything they built and let the Palestinians have the land as it was when Israel became a nation. Move every brick, every pipe, every edifice.

Instead of lecturing others on how to give away their land...show them.

This would also have the additional benefit of getting rid of Nancy Pelosi.
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Yes, the analysis is so clear that maybe the emperor will notice he has no clothes on. I particularly like your caveat that you were not being satirical about Obama's 'peace is good' narrative to what looked like students but were in fact soldiers too. I wonder how he would have handled it if they all showed up in uniform?
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I hope that Barry Rubin is right that Obama and his advisers will comprehend that Abbas is not really open to seriously negotiating.

One wonders why Obama did not try his gifted rhetorical skills on young "Palestinian" Arabs as he did on young Israelis. Maybe he knows they would not give him the same cheers and standing ovations as he received in Israel. Could his security even be guaranteed if he did give such a speech?
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Maybe Obama will suggest that the US taxpayer stop funding the PA and organizations that support Hamas?
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I don't understand these "negotiations".

What are the Palestinians asked to give? What is it that they will assure, and how will they assure it?

Obama is so willing to ask someone else to give up land for nothing, I say let's give up California to Israel. For nothing. Let them simply have it.

We will have peace. And finally, some good deli in Orange County.

We sure aren't doing anything with it anyway. But, no more US settlements in East LA. That's a precondition. If we desire peace so much, let's prove it. Enough talk. Give Israel the state of California. Tear down everything they built and let the Palestinians have the land as it was when Israel became a nation. Move every brick, every pipe, every edifice.

Instead of lecturing others on how to give away their land...show them.

This would also have the additional benefit of getting rid of Nancy Pelosi.
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"I say let's give up California to Israel."

One can only wonder how long it would take for the illegals in Cal to organize a Mexican version of Palestinians - then petition the UN for recognition...
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LaRaza is already working on that meme
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Outstanding!!! Simply the best analysis out there. Thank you!
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