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Moreover, is Friedman correct, and Mursi wrong? Is the world really going to cut off the money to Egypt if it keeps getting more Islamist? Will the U.S. insist the IMF stop aiding the Egyptian regime, or even … stop sending it free weapons?

Aide: “President Obama! The Muslim Brotherhood is grabbing more power and not being inclusionary!”

Obama: “Jumping Saul Alinsky! We must cut off aid at once! Then he’ll learn that he must be open to the world in order to unleash Egypt’s potential for growth!”

But wait! Egypt doesn’t have a potential for economic growth. It isn’t going to happen. The country has too many people and not enough resources. What if Mursi knows that Egypt isn’t going to be the new China, with shining cities of high rises, factories pumping out consumer durables for export, and so on?

If he knows that there is no real chance for economic prosperity … maybe that is why he follows the policies he does! Might it be that Mursi knows more about Egypt than Friedman, or even Obama?

Perhaps Mursi could intimidate or blackmail those with oil and gas, as his predecessor Gamal Abdel Nasser did. And, after all, the Arab nationalists faced precisely the same problem as Mursi does, and yet stayed in office for 60 years. Yes, they had the USSR, but that hardly gave a lot of economic aid. Why can’t the Islamists run Egypt for the next 60 years?

Aide: “President Mursi! We must abandon Islamism! We can’t afford it!”

Mursi: “Oh well, I guess the IMF is more important than Allah. Mwa-ha-ha! Just kidding!”

If you know anything about societies like Egypt, you would understand that these societies have a lot of flexibility. People can get along with far less than in the West, and be a lot more passive in the face of suffering, because that’s the way they always had to live. This is a largely agricultural society. Some can go back to the villages, or be sustained by extended families, or tighten their belts. They have low expectations. And the “Arab Spring” has not changed that fact, at least for a majority. What proportion of the Egyptian public participated in those romanticized events before the Mubarak regime was overthrown in 2011? Say, 100,000 out of a population of 70 million?

And many of them were Muslim Brotherhood cadre.

The Egyptian people also know they face repression, and they have a deeply embedded ideology to comfort them and to drive them onward. And why are they so poor and miserable? It’s not Mursi, but America, the West, Israel, and now even the Saudis who are blamed for their suffering. Obviously, not everyone is going to believe this, but enough will — or will get bopped upside the head — to keep the regime in power. Wait until you see what’s going to happen in Syria as a new dictatorship takes control there as well.

The one ray of hope in Egypt is that there are now four Islamist parties: the Brotherhood, “moderates,” radical Salafi, and “moderate” (i.e., pro-regime) Salafi. If the democratic opposition wasn’t led by such a bunch of quarreling incompetent egomaniac politicians, there might actually be some hope of defeating Islamists in the parliamentary elections due in a few months.

This is all a tragedy for the poor victims in the Middle East, and a farce for the well-paid, much-honored careerist opportunists and ideologues in the West.

What’s so frustrating about this mess: not only are the policies so bad, not only is the permitted debate so narrow, but these people don’t even try to come up with logical arguments because they know they can get away with any old trash and still get applauded.

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This is a prime example of why they are called the useful idiots......
1 year ago
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Before you know it Tom will be demanding Obama cut off Tank and F-16 deliveries to Egypt....after the fact.
1 year ago
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Hey Barry,
the thing that is most puzzling is that Friedman is not a stupid idiot - nor are most americans as well as the chattering classes. Don't they see what we all see, re; Islam?
Imperical, actual, hard core facts are everywhere about the religion of peace.
I just do not see how "anyone" can hold a contrary view and be a credible thinker of any sort. Jefferson and Churchill were correst ages ago!
1 year ago
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C'mon Barry, you very well know that the MB would cut off Tom's head if they had half a chance.
2 years ago
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It's remarkable that a zero track record of accuracy never disturbs a pundit's grandiose self-image.
2 years ago
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I bet a pay check even Friedman knew the so called Arab Spring is not, nor ever was about democratic anything. It is about one region, one coin, and one central bank. The blood of the innocent be dammed!

Yes, yes I know, allah akbar!

2 years ago
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"...faced a choice of whether to behave in an inclusive way or grab more power, true to its Bolshevik tendencies it grabbed more power and sacrificed inclusion. [President].... power grab will haunt him."

"What’s so frustrating about this mess: not only are the policies so bad, not only is the permitted debate so narrow, but these people don’t even try to come up with logical arguments because they know they can get away with any old trash and still get applauded."

Things that make you go...hmmmm.

2 years ago
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Not to worry. Chuck Hagel and John Kerry will soon set things to right. Just you wait and see. I see a new dawn for Egypt. It's going to be wonderful.
2 years ago
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Que playback of "You Belong to Me".
2 years ago
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I had to laugh at this part- "Might it be that Mursi knows more about Egypt than Friedman, or even Obama?"

Someone no more than Thomas Friedman or Obama? No way!
2 years ago
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Friedman's article is pretty much right on. Is the beef he is learning as events in Egypt unfold the problem? Anyone can present an unrelenting negative picture of Egypt, only present the negative news and say "See? I told you so." Try that with the Super Bowl. It won't work cuz they announce the score.

Did you predict Egypt would flood the smuggling tunnels into Gaza as they just did? Did you mention it here? No. Why would you?

Did you predict MB offices in the very city they were founded in would be torched and a curfew put in place by Morsi everyone ignored?

Are you writing stories on the unrelenting anti-Morsi, anti-MB street violence that's been going on for weeks, twice shutting down the subway and pushing Morsi out of his own Presidential offices?

I could list lots more. There is no doubt Egypt has problems, from A to Z, and solving them will be a gigantic and perhaps insurmountable problem. This is a country that is coming from a very dark place with endemic failure heaped on top. They are stumbling as they go. But Egyptians are nice people, maybe as nice as any you'll meet in the world. They have a culture that is ignorant in many ways but they are not evil.

As for your characterization that 100,000 participated in the revolution across Egypt, that is simply false. It's interesting to me that when people such as yourself want to mention the famous Qaradawi speech in Feb. 2011 in Tahrir Square, the number zooms to 9 billion zealots, and they all came to see Qaradawi - well, they didn't. There were probably a quarter of a million to 400,000 that day. It was large, but not the largest and typical for what was happening at that time. And Qaradawi wasn't there those other times.

In fact a few millions took to the streets across Egypt during those 18 days and at the risk of their lives as there were pre-dusk to dawn curfews in place the entire time.

The bottom line is that if one has a just argument, there is no need to withhold or exaggerate information. If I went by what you wrote alone, I'd think Iran on the Nile was set for the next thousand years.

And Egypt has 84 million people.
2 years ago
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The conduct of Morsi was totally predictable to anyone familiar with the history of the MB.
2 years ago
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I think slightly wider nets were being cast than that. It's an easy call, sure. No one said it wasn't. But no one could predict how much the MB would or wouldn't pander to the reality of politics, and that's very real. Because these groups are elected, not dictators for life. If they don't produce, sooner or later they'll be kicked out and someone else elected. Morsi's overplayed his hand and alienated many people who otherwise would've been on his side. If the exact same Presidential election were held today, he'd lose. He won by a slimmest of margins anyway.
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