Who Rules Egypt? The Battle Begins
As for the reformers, forget it. The alleged Facebook kids are turning into Brotherhood satellites, supporting al-Mursi and campaigning against the army limiting his power in any way. In Tahrir Square, some of those demonstrating against the military explained that they expect the Brotherhood will reward them for their support.
And in what should be a very important lesson and a huge media story, a Brotherhood leader has spilled the beans about Wael Ghonim. The Google executive was portrayed as the very model of a moderate liberal Egyptian during the “revolution.” Ghonim publicly announced that he voted for al-Mursi in the presidential election.
Now, veteran Egypt-watcher Raymond Stock points out that Essam el-Erian said Ghonim has been a Brotherhood member for a while. Equally significant, el-Erian added that Abdel-Rahman Mansour is still a Brotherhood member. As Stock explains:
These are reputedly the two most important figures behind the famous social media side of the revolt.
The Brotherhood has frequently praised both men, though it has made clear they should not be given any real authority or influence. Stock added:
This information completely destroys the fiction that there is a clear separation between the “secular-liberal youth” cadre and the Islamists. Essentially, El-Erian is bragging none too subtly that the Muslim Brotherhood played a key role in launching the uprising.
They did, however, leave the initial leadership and planning to others for the first few days.
Meanwhile, the third leading “secular” activist who led the revolution, Asma Mahfouz, in her latest interview — though the reporter and viewers are given no hint of this — stands in front of a poster that has a scorpion on it. The head is that of Ahmad Shafiq, the presidential candidate who opposed al-Mursi. Overthrown President Hosni Mubarak is the stinger. An Israeli Star of David is imposed on Shafiq to present him as the puppet of the evil Zionists.
There are certainly dissenters, truly anti-Islamist, anti-totalitarian liberals, but they have little power. The Wafd Party, largest of the non-Islamist groups, is directionless and often ready to sell out. The democratic liberal Free Egyptians’ Party is limited by the fact that it draws most of its backing from the Christian minority.
How long before we have to send humanitarian food relief?
I have an idea for containing the MB. Send them more money. Look how well it’s worked in Pakistan. Bad example, well what about North Korea? Uh, well what about Iraq? Yeah Iraq is a stable moderate islamic . . .oh never mind.
Let’s just let them kill each other. Maybe trade them our muslims for their Christians. That way, our muslims can live under sharia liekthey want, and the Coptic Christians can live under religious freedom without being attacked by the religion of peace.
With the Muslim Brotherhood taking over Egypt, what western company in their right mind would want to do business there, let alone maintain offices there? At any moment that country could turn into another Iran, with westerners being trapped there as they were when Mubarak was being overthrown. Egypt right now is NOT the picture of stability, so I’m not really sure who would invest in it. If they have to rely only on our military aid to stay afloat, then they’re in really big trouble.
The only hope is for the Army to maintain total control of Egypt and keeping the Muslim Brotherhood in their place. If the Army does not do this, they will lose all power to the Muslim Brotherhood and I’m sure the generals know they will never get that power back if that happens. No, the best that we can hope for is another Anwar Sadat from the Army taking over Egypt. Not the best, but a heck of a lot better than any of the alternatives.
I can only hope that somehow the increase or opening of hostilities with Israel is forstalled by some group in Egypt that has a pragmatic understanding of the horrible consequences that an attack would precipitate. From afar things look bleak. If the economy in Egypt continues to worsen (and why would it not) then after the ‘excitement’ of the change in rulership wears off, millions of young men will realize that they still have basically no real future to look forward to. Their disillusionment will turn to despair, and thus the society will be ripe for demagogues to focus all that negativity on a scapegoat, and GUESS WHO that will be. If we get 4 more years of the present administration, its likely the US influence will be of no value in moderating extremism and the confused messages we send may only embolden the radical elements. This just isnt good!
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Who rules Egypt? I think we all know the answer to that question…DEMOCRACY RULES EGYPT!! I am so excited that the Egyptian people have spoken with one voice to select a representative government. I believe that the “Arab Spring” we are witnessing would never have come about without the courage and conviction of Our Very Dearest President Obama. Just His presence in the Oval Office gave traction to the powerless around the Middle East. What we’ll finally see is a renewal of peace and friendship, a scaling back of dependence on foreign oil in favor of “green” renewables, like wind, algae, and hand-picked non-genetic modified organic soy based fuel-type liquids. And maybe, the people who run the global banking system and news print will start to see how freedom has enveloped the land around them, and that they can no longer oppress, repress, and digress without repercussion! That, I believe, will lead to world peace and an ushering in of a new age of Man and His earthly divinity and self-actuated happiness. I love Me!
Wonderful.
This is at the top of short list for MB “To DO” things. The flourishing new democracy of the region will lead them all to a bright new future. All hail…who?
Awesome, that has to be the funniest posting I’ve read in a long time.
I’ll bet actual soldiers and military officers of lower rank are the least enthused about a possible war with Israel. But 1973 was a long time ago. Sometimes it takes a few air strikes in the neighnorhood to remind people war is hell. And then it’s on and too late.
The Muslim Brotherhood must also know that a shooting war with Israel is not likely to go well. Not that Egypt is a pushover. It’s got some advanced military hardware — thanks to decades and billions of US tax dollars. But as Israelis are always fighting to avoid genocide, they’re not likely to give up this time either.
BusinessWeek June 26, 2012
“An Egyptian court suspended the military’s right to arrest civilians, in a win for the Muslim Brotherhood in its power struggle with the ruling generals ahead of an end-June handover of power to the new Islamist president. ”
It looks as though the MB is going after the military’s power a little at a time.
How is this bad news?
Eygpt, in going the way of the Soviet Union, is doomed to the same fate. They are no threat, for a generation or more. This is good news.
I don’t believe for a second that the western “leftists” wanted anything other than another pro-western tin-dict who wasn’t perfect, but supported the the US the west and respected the Treaty with Israel. Getting rid of him and installing another western hating, Jew hating, sharia loving, genicidal maniac islamic republic was always their plan.
Got some starving people? No problem! Just have the imams jin up some Christian hatred and all the remaining (true Egyptians) Christians are slaughtered.
Still got starving people? No problem! Just have the imams point the finger of their misery at the Jews next door and use them for cannon fodder. Don’t worry! The world will make sure the make the Jews stop before they win the war and you won’t lose an inch of territory. But boy howdy! There will now be a lot more food for the remaining population!
Know one thing – if Syria falls, Jordan is next!
PS – There are also stirrings in Kuwait – our dependable Kuwait.
Egypt is almost gone (just think of it as gone – you’ll save yourself anxiety) Syria is fighting for it’s life (Assad is better than what will replace him. I firmly believe it’s the “rebels” who are killing the women and children and calling the media for photo ops. Classic propaganda mastered by the pals) and if they fall Jordan will be next. Who’s left after that? Yemen was always iffy. The United Arab Emerates? Small country and already islamic. The only question will be who prevails – Sunni or Shi’ite? Or maybe that doesn’t matter when there are Jews and Christians and Infidels to kill…..
Islam controls Egypt. Egypt’s poor employed Jeffersonian Democracy to elect imams. It will only get worse. Egypt will regress and be unable to feed itself. The pyramids could be at jeopardy. We have a real mess on our hands.
That the Moslem Brotherhood would take over was highly predictable to anyone who remembered the Iranian revolution which led to Khomeini and the Islamist government. The revolution was led by true liberal democrats, who quickly lost power to the Islamists. Those, like Thomas Friedman, who were oblivious to this likelihood, are now still trying to whitewash the Moslem brotherhood’s commitment to Sharia law, and anti-Israelism. For at least 60 years these have been the center-pieces of the Moslem Brotherhood’s charter and program. Friedman http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/04/opinion/what-does-morsi-mean-for-israel.html?ref=thomaslfriedman, again, is showing his obliviousness to the reality of the Moslem Brotherhood.
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