NEWS FLASH: Muslim Brotherhood Claims Victory in Egypt Presidential Election
IF MURSI BECOMES PRESIDENT (winning second round run-off):
Remember that he and the Brotherhood are now not even trying to hide their extremism, openly demanding an immediate Sharia state and a Caliphate. In fact, I’d suggest they could have done much better in the first round if they had continued to pretend more moderation. Also Mursi was not an attractive candidate personally. Remember he was not the Brotherhood’s first choice but stepped in at the last moment when someone else was disqualified.
This would set off a crisis that will dominate the region for a decade or two. This would be a catastrophe equal to and perhaps greater than the Iranian revolution. No exaggeration. If there isn’t a war with Israel within three years (Hamas backed by Egypt or even involving Egypt) it would be a miracle.
Note that what’s most important is not the presidency in isolation but:
- Brotherhood control over parliament and president and writing constitution.
- Brotherhood triumphalism, which we have seen repeatedly, belief in victory leading to arrogance and more extremism.
There will be panic. Christians and liberals will start packing their bags.
I think it will be Mohammed Mursi. The problem Arab nationalists face is the fact the Islamists are in a very strong position. Either way, even a moderate non-Islamist President has his hands tied and has no real way to pursue his agenda. The Muslim Brotherhood will be in the government either through a strong President if it wins or it can select a Prime Minister to implement its policies.
Whatever happens in the second round of the presidential race, Egypt is in all likelihood is going to have an Islamist regime. The liberal Facebook kids won’t be running Egypt and deciding its future.
I suppose this means that Madonna will not be performing in Cairo after her show in Tel Aviv this weekend. When that happens Egypt will have achieved a “moderate” level of liberal democracy. Call it the Madonna test. She is 53 years old so they better hurry up.
What a mess Obama helped create! Here is Bernard Lewis’s view on the Arab Spring, from Notes on a Century, page 342:
I am mistrustful and view with apprehension a genuine free election – assuming that such a thing could happen – because the religious parties have an immediate advantage. First, they have a network of communication through the preacher and mosque which no other political group can hope to equal. Second, they use, familiar, indigenous, language. The language of Western democracy is for the most part newly translated and the concepts are not readily intelligible to the general population. A dash towards Western-style elections, far from representing a solution to the region’s difficulties, constitutes a dangerous aggravation of the problem and I fear that radical Islamic movements are ready to exploit so misguided a move. In genuine fair and free elections , the Muslim parties are very likely to win. A much better course would be a gradual development of democracy, not through general elections, but rather through civil society and the strengthening of local institutions. For that, there is a real tradition in the region.
The victorious Islamists will promise jobs,clean water, food, infrastructure, reform, and dignity. Of these, they will only actually provide ‘dignity’–which is of course a code word for racism, hysteria, hatred, paranoia, and war. The Egyptian economy will continue to collapse. And the odds that collapsing, starving, crumbling, imploding Egypt will build a nuclear weapon? Oh, roughly about 100 percent. Dignity requires nothing less.
They Ikhwan may be lying, since they have clearly exhibited a penchant for it, but if they aren’t then there is going to be trouble ahead. I haven’t believed for a second that Abul-Fotouh ever even left their organization regardless of his public actions or statements. The Ikhwan seem to me to be a blood in/blood out kind of organization and you don’t achieve that high a position in it and then just take off when it is on the verge of its greatest triumph. He was a useful tool and the MB’s greatest hope was that there would be a runoff between he and Mursi so they would win no matter what. Even though that doesn’t appear to be in the cards there is little doubts where his votes are going and the FJP is only going to have to syphon off a few more votes in the next month to gain the presidency, if the military allows it that is. On that note I never see any articles or info on the web that take into account the rate of MB infiltration of the officer corps which I have to think they have been doing these last few decades.
In any case, Egypt’s economy is in a death spiral and if there is an Ikhwan takeover then they will send those millions of unemployed youth off to war because it will be easier to kill them off and to celebrate their martyrdom than it will be to find them jobs
40 million women in Egypt are about to go behind the vail and forced to submit to the men in their lives, their freedom has ended because of Obama and the stupidity emanating from the State Department led by Hillary. Bush freed 40 million from the lash of Saddam and Obama brought the Brotherhood from out under the rock that they have been hiding under. That will be Obama’s and Hillary’s legacy, they brought slavery back to Egyptian women. Voting in the United States has consequences worldwide, because of the vetting of the MSM and the Democrat Party 40 million Egyptian women gets to have their heads used for rock throwing. What a disgusting bunch of people in the Democrat Party anymore.
You are overlooking that which is really important:
Obama is cool.
A very astute observation. This administration backed the MB who will take the ME back 1,000 years. How sad that they project THEIR war on women onto conservatives.
When I was in Egypt in 2008, I was told by numerous people that in a straight up, fair and square election, the Islamists would win 75% of the vote. This is not a surprise to anyone paying attention. Next up….war with Israel when they realize they can’t get the economy moving and they have 20 million unemployed young people to mollify. Egyptian Christians should start looking for a safe place to hang out.
“Next up….war with Israel when they realize they can’t get the economy moving and they have 20 million unemployed young people to mollify. Egyptian Christians should start looking for a safe place to hang out.”
Well, between 8 million Christians fleeing and 15-20 million Egyptians being killed by Israeli nukes when the Egyptians are crazy enough to attack Israel, they’d certainly solve their population problem.
1. Where can 15 million Christian Copts possibly flee TO?
2. If it comes to war with Israel, one hopes that Israel will relentlessly target the MB leadership circles and their economic interests, not just massacre a bunch of starving peasants.
1. I don’t want all those Copts coming here, because of the anti-Semitism/anti-Israelism they will bring, but let’s say we take 500,000 and Canada and Australia each 50-100K. The rest can go to Western Europe, which due to their declining non-Muslim populations, could use them. And where their anti-Semitism would fit right in.
2. I imagine the MB leaders would be targeted by the nuke(s) launched on Cairo.
Wow, Isreal- and America-hating islamists, who’d've expected it?!
Female genital mutilation apparently has not been an issue in the campaign. Mubarak and his wife outlawed the procedure when they were in power.
http://www.tnr.com/article/world/96555/egypt-genital-mutilation-fgm-muslim-brotherhood
What do Egyptian women think about this? For that matter, what do Egyptian men think about this?I could imagine 90% of Egyptian women and 30% of Egyptian men voting against the Muslim Brotherhood if this issue entered the campaign. But what I could imagine is simply a guess-imagination.
Muslims are hopeless. Sooner or later, if given the chance, the will sink to the lowest common denominator.
An elected MB leadership will almost certainly run Egypt into the ground. In a democracy, the voters would then vote them out at the next election. Don’t count on that happening–or being allowed to happen.
The die is cast, and by one means or another, and in one time frame or the other (short or mid-term), the Islamists will come to power.
Whether this will bring war with Israel, as in all-out war, it’s too early to say. Clearly, that’s the inevitable and ultimate direction or outcome, but it may take more than three years. Well, hopefully. In the meantime, the current regime is clearly very ambivalent about the Islamist presence both in Gaza and Sinai. When it does act, it does so only to protect itself, not to help Israel in any way. And the IDF is gradually shifting to viewing Egypt as a permanently hostile border. Now that will speed up.
The stuff about Israel massacring millions of peasants – fantasy.
The Bible says that Egypt will not escape God’s wrath — now we know why.