Vice President Joe Biden has given a very revealing interview with Newsweek. In it, he confirms my consistent analysis that the administration defines the U.S. problem with revolutionary Islamism as only involving al-Qaeda. It cannot be stressed enough why this policy is so extraordinarily dangerous.
Why? The irony is that while the Obama administration refuses to use the expression “War on Terrorism,” this is precisely how they have defined the entire U.S. strategy, although one might also call it the “War on the Perpetrators of September 11.” What is missing here is any dealing with major strategic issues.
It is true that September 11 and other massive terrorist attacks are of huge significance. But there’s a whole world out there. Revolutionary Islamists are taking over the Middle East, moving toward the rule over tens of millions of people, getting nuclear weapons, carrying out subversion and terrorism against U.S. allies, and inciting hatred of the United States and a passionate desire to hurt it.
Among the countries where anti-American Islamists — however they conceal their views and goals — are in power are the following: Egypt, Gaza Strip, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, Tunisia, and Turkey. Syria is their ally and so, to a certain extent, is Qatar. Pakistan often covertly supports such forces as well. The list of those supporting this stance is far longer than those on the other side.
The Obama administration has consistently underestimated the growth and spread of Islamism. No, let me go further: It basically claims that the phenomenon doesn’t exist at all. Worse still, like someone faced with fire who pours gasoline on everything in its path, the Obama administration is doing things that worsen the situation by backing radical Islamists and systematically failing to support their intended victims.
To be fair to Biden, however, it is understandable that he must downplay the Taliban threat in this case because he is justifying the coming U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan. Yet what he says is far more revealing in a damaging way than the superficial criticism — Biden says Taliban is not our enemy — misses.
Regarding al-Qaeda, Obama said that the American goal in Afghanistan is “to fundamentally alter their capacity to do damage to American allies and vital U.S. interests….” Yet what about the other, far larger, more powerful, and more dangerous groups that are doing that?
The interviewer, the very capable Leslie Gelb (a liberal Democrat foreign policy establishment guy who nonetheless sounds very unconvinced by Biden), asks: “…Depending upon who comes to power in Afghanistan in the future, they [al-Qaeda] can come back.” And Biden responds, “I would argue they are not able to come back. I would argue that there has been serious damage done to their infrastructure in a way that the coherence of this thing called al-Qaeda and their ability to metastasize has been severely damaged.”
This is naïve to say the least. Al-Qaeda is functioning very seriously in Yemen, Somalia, and other places. You don’t kill a terrorist organization that has always been profoundly decentralized by killing a few leaders. But, again, what about new versions of al-Qaeda?
The main criticism of Biden has quoted him as saying that the Taliban is not an enemy of the United States, but that’s a misinterpretation of his words. What he actually says is something far more stupid in policy terms. The Taliban, he explains, “is not our enemy” unless it is in power. To quote him precisely:
“If, in fact, the Taliban is able to collapse the existing government, which is cooperating with us in keeping the bad guys from being able to do damage to us, then that becomes a problem for us.” So the Afghan government should “be strong enough that they can negotiate with and not be overthrown by the Taliban. And at the same time try to get the Taliban to move in the direction to see to it that they, through reconciliation, commit not to be engaged with al-Qaeda or any other organization that they would harbor to do damage to us and our allies….”
The Taliban is like bailing out a boat: as soon as you stop it sinks. They will be back in power in Afghanistan and Pakistan will not only not hinder such an event they will help it. To say our policy in Afghanistan is wrong-headed is light hearted.
The Obama administration was never interested in a real foreign policy in either Afghanistan or Iraq, all it wanted was to get out in a way that didn’t look like a defeat. It has just about accomplished that and even when it doesn’t work out the way the Obama guys wanted it to, they will claim that it has.
Iraq is already turning into an oppressive dictatorship from which the Iranians and their Iraqi proxies will “liberate” the Iraqis very soon.
The Karzai government is already in negotiations with the Taliban and will almost certainly form a coalition regime with them the presence of American troops notwithstanding.
But given the fact that both of these wars were huge mistakes and accomplished almost nothing positive, it doesn’t really matter what the Obama stooges say or do.
“The Obama administration was never interested in a real foreign policy in either Afghanistan or Iraq, all it wanted was to get out in a way that didn’t look like a defeat. It has just about accomplished that and even when it doesn’t work out the way the Obama guys wanted it to, they will claim that it has.”
In other words a replay of “Vietnamization”, circa 1973.
The liberals wanted a U.S.. defeat there, in the belief that it would “moderate” U.S. opposition to socialism, at home and abroad. As well as discrediting the U.S. military in the eyes of the American people. A few years later, Ted Kennedy was celebrating the fall of Saigon, and a few years after that, Jimmy Carter was lecturing us on our “inordinate fear of Communism”.
Just before the USSR decided that the quickest route to a warm-water port went right through Kabul. Helped along by the “distraction” supplied by the mullahs in Iran for 444 days. Whom the progressives were also telling us were really nice people we just didn’t understand properly.
The same dynamic is in play right now. And has been since 9/11. Liberals are always on the lookout for the next anti-Western movement they can cheerlead for. And when that movement becomes genuinely dangerous, sternly lecture the rest of us for our “misperception” of same.
Their irrational hatred of our society blinds them to threats which, in the end, wish to bury them along with the rest of us.
Seen in this light, Biden’s ramblings are perfectly understandable. If you substitute “Vietnam”, “Cambodia”, “Communism”, etc., for “Afghanistan”, “Iraq”, “Islamism”, and so on, you could be listening to any of the Democratic Party’s Congressional leadership on the same talk shows in 1974.
The names change, but the progressives’ delusions remain the same.
That time around, Vietnam and Cambodia were the progressives’ sacrificial lambs in pursuit of their Utopian dreams of truncated American power abroad and hegemony at home. Afghanistan and Iraq are the Vietnam of this go-around.
I am very much afraid they’ve decided that Israel gets to be Cambodia.
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The end game is obliteration…of themselves. Evil crafts a common vision toward self-annihilation – through a prism of many facets: Marx and Mohammed and Torquemada and, and…thus dwells the Beast, always most in those who deny stridently the darker side of their natures.
I agree the end result is a type of self-destruction but in the case of Obama and the Democratic Party that day is far in the future. Their game is predicated around paring down the European population of the U.S. because of what they see as the endemic racism of Europeans. The solution is the empowerment of the Rainbow Coalition, multiculturalism and diversity and minorities have gloated in public about celebrating 2050 when whites will be the minority. 90% of immigration to the U.S. in the last decade has come from the Third World and that is not including illegals. There is an implicit faith on the Left that in fact all men are created equal but reality has other ideas on this score. Even one week doing something as simple as watching the Discovery Channel is case closed; all roads lead to Rome.
The problem is that the faddish excuse and apology factory called political correctness is of little value to reality. The most hated culture and institutions in America being attacked are in fact the very ones with the innovative tech and greater-good values that have enabled everything from vegetarianism to feminism to civil rights for minorities; in this sense, the Left is destroying the goose that laid the golden egg as having a faith that Haitians are unlucky rocket scientists is not the same thing as that actually being true.
If a day comes when America is ruled by values and concepts typical on tip-of-the-iceberg shows like The View and Oprah, that is the day we will be well on our way to a return to an Age of Copper. Look at Detroit and see what has been wrought by listening closely to con men and apologists for reality which itself has come to be seen as “racist” as has common sense.
Muslims are only the latest in an unlucky scenario that promises to only further weaken the U.S. and turn it into a bickering Babel with the same commitment to the greater good which permeates the Third World which is to say none. The new immigrants are not the same as the old immigrants as the old immigrants didn’t have a marked disdain for the story of America nor was that disdain matched by a large segment of the populace already here for generations.
It is politically correct, according to the Saudis who have given the green light to their man in Washington (Obama), to say that Al Qaeda is the one and only enemy in the Muslim world – provided the USA does not say that it is connected in any way to Islam and to emphasize that Al Qaeda’s teachings are a perversion of Islam… and thus an anomaly.
Truth has been butchered and our safety and security compromised by the vacuous and subservient Islamists and Islamist-lovers in the Obama administration.
Have a look at “Obama-speak” filtered down through to the administration lackeys. This is an abomination of truth and the end result of brainwashing that has resulted from the Muslim Brotherhood operatives running around freely in the White House:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WU6n1mrpAGY
Obama most certainly isn’t the man of the Saudis in Washington. Had he been, the US would have already bombed the Iranian nuclear facilities, and the US wouldn’t have been involved with the revolutionary forces in Egypt and wouldn’t be in such a hurry to turn on Mubarak. Nothing this administration did favors the Saudis, their interests or their position in the Middle East, and if the US doesn’t watch it the Saudi royalty, and other regional US’ allies, might look for more reliable allies elsewhere. And I’m not saying this as a fan of either Obama or the Saudi royalty. I think I’m just stating the obvious. The Obama admin ended up helping the Muslim Brotherhood, but definitely not the Saudis. The Saudis and Jordanians might yet end up joining the winning horse in the Middle East – the Muslim Brotherhood – if they’ll feel they can’t beat it, but it wasn’t the horse of their choosing.
The Saudis finance all radical Islamic factions just to be safe. The Brotherhood and most of Egypt is Sunni. Wahhabis are are odds with all branches of Islam depending on time, place and situation but they are very supportive of the Salafi who gained 24% in first stage of Egyptian elections. I gather that the Saudis are not happy that they cannot manipulate the USA to take out Iran because it is a major Shiite competitor (Iran is 90% Shiite whereas Saudi is only 18%). It is about power and who maintains control over Mulsim world but the Saudis do not seem to be worked up enough to fight their own battles (Why should they when America has done so for them globally?) The Saudis groomed Obama but Obama sees everything in black and white – all Muslims as good in his eyes. The Saudis and most others in the ME make real distinctions between sects and tribes. Yes, The Saudis are upset with their toady-in-office because events surpassed the naive rhetoric of the Obama administration and they seized the opportunity to challenge the dictators. It was an unintended consequence of these movements that change went against Saudi interest but that does not mean that Obama is not still their man in office (though now he is also the best man in Libyan Brotherhood, Egyptian Brotherhood, Tunisian Brotherhood, Yemen Al Qaeda, Iranian mullahs’ circles).
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Aren’t you forgetting Bahrain?
So, if I apply their foreign policy views regarding the anticipated behavior of moderate Muslims to their own real domestic political behavior for moderate public policy implementation during the last three years (eg., Obamacare), I can only conclude they’re irrational. If by irrational one means a person regularly doing the opposite of what that persons says or claims he or she is doing. What’s that old nostrum, “watch what I do and not what I say”? Or is it “do as I say and not as I do?” Well, since Iraq is going down the tubes and Obama can’t blame it on Bush after blowing the status of forces agreement, I suspect in the end Obama will hit the Iranians for meddling in Iraq, but under the rubric of preventing nuclear arms. There’s more than one way to win an election during the second great depression an Obama is running out of options.
“If by irrational one means a person regularly doing the opposite of what that persons says or claims he or she is doing.”
That’s not irrational at all. If I’m doing something you won’t like it would be quite rational of me to lie to you about it. If, for instance, one spouse regularly cheats on the other they wouldn’t normally say to their cheated spouse: ‘Hi, hon. I’ve just spent a great afternoon sleeping with your best friend, and it was fantastic! How was your day?”. They’re more likely to say: ‘Me?! Cheat on you?! Never!”. Similarly a politician who wants to get elected won’t say he/she will raise taxes. They’re more likely to say: ‘I will not raise taxes. Read my lips.”, and then raise taxes after being elected. Politicians do this sort of thing all the time, nevermind diplomats. If you know your entire policy on every issue will be unpopular, but you insist on implemeting it anyway, the only way you can do it is by lying your way through it. Of course, at some point people will start noticing, but by then you’ve already implemented quite a bit of your policies, and in some cases it will be impossible to reverse.
Yes, true, but they don’t think they’re lying; they think they’re on a mission, mission possible, if highly improbable. They have the truth, they’re the best and the brightest. Apparently they really think everything is working out. They really thought the folks would love Obamacare and that the Muslim Brotherhood is really moderate, and that modern technologically sophisticated Muslims in the Sudan wouldn’t suffer from vanishing penis syndrome for shaking hands with infidels and have have a collective penis panic in Khartoum. Perhaps self-deception or delusional would have been a better terms?
No–I disagree. I fear that the only military option teh Won is even capable of envisioning is a preemptive surrender, the only conditions being that he will be granted sanctuary in some exotic clime with a fifty million dollar a year allowance.
Biden is, simply put, an idiot. When I consider the old BS about the “Lions” of the Senate, I could just puke! A bigger bunch of a-holes, serial rapists, drunks and narcissists can hardly be imagined. Kennedy, Sarbanes, Biden, Leahy…am I leaving any miscreants out? Lions? A-holes is the only term I can think remotely appropriate.
Not many people take the time to peruse C-Span. I no longer do, as I am a little busy trying to survive with a total moron and scumbag in the White House, as well as a full Congress of thieving, conniving, self-serving mooks. But once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away (up until the moment that GHWB showed us that “Republican” is a negotiable position) I used to watch them, exhaustively.
That was when I realized the depths of depravity that the MSM will stoop to to defend undefendable scum who happen to be Democrats. If Republicans make 200 salient points, destroying the Clintons and their little small biz scam (which would land you and me in jail for a very long time), and one Dem says, “Oh, yeah?”, the “oh, yeah?” will be covered fifty times while no mention will ever be made of any of the 200 salient points.
Gentlepeople, once you have identified the person as a cheap, scurrilous liar, the argument has ceased. You cannot even respond to a liar except to award him credibility. At this point, the Democratic party is, in fact, a criminal entrprise. It seeks to destroy and fray the social fabric in order to enrich and empower itself. It is an evil cancer which needs to be excised.
Remember, it’s not paranoia when they really are out to get you. It’s survival.
Roger, if you print this, you are a true patriot.
Righteous and pass the ammunition. A paranoid is someone with all the facts – William Burroughs
“Do not attribute your own motivations to those of others. At best, it will break your heart, and at worst, get you dead.”
You keep assuming this administration is way down deep inside basically on our side. Biden is the same guy who called the Tea Party ‘Terrorists’ just a couple of months ago.
This is the same administration that terrorist bombers as white middle-class Americans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qml7obNdmgk
From their perspective, the Taliban are their simpatico friends and those of us in the middle-class are the enemy.
This ad is ridiculous. My guess is they didn’t want to offend Muslims or cause Islamophobia or any controversy, so they chose to show average Americans. But even so there’s a better way of doing it – don’t show people at all, just objects that might be bombs. I grew up with this type of ads showing objects. Every child in Israel knows the term ‘hefetz hashud’ – suspicious object. They also know what to do if they suspect some object might be explosive, which was left out of this American ad. Yes, it said to report to the local authorities, but by the time the local authorities get there the bomb would have probably already exploded. The Israeli ads say you should first warn everyone around to get away from the suspicious object and then call the police. This way if the thing explodes before the police gets there no one will get hurt. It’s really sad to see this type of ads have reached the US too. American kids will have to grow up with that in mind. So sad.
Ken, you are right that Obama didn’t plan to win Afghanistan or remain in Iraq despite the problems of instability. My own feeling was that Afghanistan was more about an operation platform for pressure on Iran and counter-terrorism operation Pakistan. Without an end to corruption and a decent Afghani Army, nation building and stability are rather losing propositions.
While I lament what might come in Iraq I’m not sure we could remain without being asked or protected under law. McCain swears we could have reached a btter result. I would have been nice basing some troops in Kurdistan, but the situation between Iran-Turkey and the Kurds is volatile.
I disagree Turkey is in the same enemy list as Iran. Rumor has Erdogan’s heath is bad and things can change. Many Turks are more Liberal than their government.
Panetta its seems has taken a recent hard line against Iran and Wag the Dog is quite possible. Syria is a mess though the Russian position is weakening and Israel and Turkey have more in common interests lately.
So I don’t think it fair to exaggerate the options Obama has. Congress acts: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/asd/2011/12/20/02.xml&headline=Lawmakers%20Boost%20Israeli%20Missile%20Defense
I think the failure to object to Turkey’s stand on the Goldstone Report and Cyprus/Israeli energy exploration was a big mistake. Also the administration is quite confused about the handling of Egypt, Lebanon.
The largest problems however are domestic economy, signals (like the Taliban are not our enemy), handling of Defense procurements, lack of transparency.
You are right that Obama now seems willing to seek options that defy our understanding of simple definitions. We could have reached a better agreement with Iraq but Obama didn’t want to be there. From before he was elected, Obama has been warned over any Grand Bargain.
So in short, domestic issues, poor signals and a deep desire to withdraw and leave fate to chaos are the primary faults, but it is a difficult situation and the administration could be far worse than it is.
Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Sudan, Egypt, Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan totter. The consequence of disorder will spread non-linearly. I don’t think Obama has mastered the art of butterflies.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57345322/panetta-iran-will-not-be-allowed-nukes/?tag=contentMain;contentBody
“Former International Atomic Energy Agency Director General Hans Blix, though, said pressuring Iran with potential military force is unlikely to be effective.
“I am somehow doubtful that one can scare a country away from going for nuclear weapons. Carrots are better for persuading them,” Blix told Russia Today in remarks reported on Tuesday. Tehran “might stop short of a weapon,” he suggested.
“Iran does not have a track record of aggression,” said the former official, playing down Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s previous declaration that Israel must be “wiped off the map.”
“Most people think he was really talking to the Arab streets. He wanted to destabilize Arab states that supported the United States,” he said. “I do not see an immediate threat from Iran — but I can understand that the Israelis are nervous.”
“Any kind of attack risks a total confrontation in the Middle East. The Iranian mullahs are not sitting to tittle-tattle, they will have a counterattack and maybe they will drag the U.S. into the war. It is a terrible fire they are playing with,” Blix said. “In the case of Iraq, they talked about weapons that in fact did not exist. Today they are talking about Iranian intentions (to have nuclear weapons) that may or may not exist” (Russia Today, Dec. 20).” NTI
Of course Obama is not alone in his thinking and there are numerus forces at work in the West even more disconnected than the President.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2076355/Arab-Spring-The-terrifying-truth-revolution.html#ixzz1h4It2MIc
Attacking Iraq doesn’t risk any kind of a confrontation in the middle east. Who would ally with who and how compatible are their weapons systems or even capable in the first place if they were? The middle east as a group today is hopelessly disunited in real terms and just as just weak even as a whole since too many cooks spoil the broth. You can’t even find two countries in the middle east that would unite against the West.
Well, Pakistan could support a Taliban government in Afghanistan. Iran certainly supports Hizb’Allah. It is also possible Egypt could turn and unite in an alliance Nasser had should Islamists take over Syria. Already weapons from Libya transit Egypt to Gaza via the Brotherhoods. I am not sure what your point is.
And of course, terrorism can easily be coordinated between countries.
Iraq could split up: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/21/iraqi-pm-kurds-sunni-vice-president?newsfeed=true
The Kurds could come under fire from Iran, Turkey and Shiite Iraq.
You are right that ME governments are not coordinating their militaries, but as we know, the street will unite first and the military will follow.
My point was very simple: “You can’t even find two countries in the middle east that would unite against the West.”
You used the term “total confrontation;” as Bugs Bunny would say “This means war.”
It doesn’t mean tacit support or guerilla tactics or street violence.
There is not a snowball’s chance in hell the middle east can or would confront the West over Iran; not the entirety of the region together has any real military capability. And what’s that old saw about Finland outproducing the region? They can’t reach us militarily and they can’t protect themselves from us. In any event Iranians are Shia and though privately and not so privately many Sunnis admire their stance against America, many just don’t like Iran and they sure as hell aren’t going to risk having their cities carpet bombed for a Shia nuclear device.
One only has to remember that liberals are like moths attracted to light and the power of that light so strong they will do anything to be close to it, anything. These lifelong academic and Hollywood dependent types are not only over paid and overvalued and for the most part productively useless. As for Biden, he can fix any problem with just one more drink and his boss with just one more lie.
Biden wants to gloss over the real threats in Afghanistan because Obama wants to get out of there no later than next year. All Obama cares about is looking good to his far-left liberal base, and if he can say that he got our troops out of both Iraq and Afghanistan, he’ll be treated like a hero by the loony left. Problem is, both Iraq and Afghanistan are falling apart, especially Iraq. In a few months we really could be asking ourselves, “Who lost Iraq” because that country is about to have one heck of a civil war. As for Afghanistan, Obama will say that the threat from al Qaeda is over, regardless of what the Taliban is doing (which is taking over the country). Soon we will be asking, “Who lost Afghanistan,” too. And to think that Obama wants to run away from these countries after we’ve spent so much blood and treasure there is disgusting. I hope a new president in 2012 can fix some of this coming disaster, because if it’s too late, you will see one heck of an evacuation from Afghanistan in about a year from now.
Libertyship46, what do you propose in Afghanistan? If Syria and Iran are major problems and even Egypt becoming a mess, what is the most issue and the troops we might need? You can’t honestly let this death from a thousand cuts and the Republicans have a hand in the coming 1 trillion dollar cut to the military. Gates had a hand in defense procurements. Biden has always maintained his view that Afghanistan was not a national building effort as it was a counter-terrorism base. How much COIN force would be need for a war that has been waged for more than 9 years?
As for Iraq,
““I’m surprised by the statement of President Obama when he said that the United States had left a democratic Iraq,” he said. “Is that the reality of Iraq? I’m sad. Either the American president is deceived or he is overlooking the facts existing here. Today my house is surrounded with tanks. I’d ask him, what democracy are you talking about, President Obama?”
Almost as significant as what Mr. Hashimi said was where he said it: in Erbil, the capital of the semiautonomous northern region of Kurdistan, where Mr. Maliki’s security forces cannot easily act on the warrant issued Monday to arrest him.
Mr. Hashimi, who is barred by the government from traveling outside the country, said he would not return to Baghdad, effectively making him an internal exile. The case against him, he said, should be transferred to Kurdistan, where he could face a fair trial.
As Mr. Hashimi’s news conference was broadcast on several Iraqi television channels, the state-run channel replayed the confessions from his guards at least twice.
Baghdad security officials unveiled the charges a day earlier, playing the videotaped confessions from three men who said they had worked as Mr. Hashimi’s bodyguards and had been ordered by him to commit murders. The men claimed to have used roadside bombs and silencer-equipped pistols to kill Iraqi government officials and security officers. Mr. Hashimi, they said, rewarded them with money.
Security officials promised to play more confessions from other Hashimi bodyguards among the 10 they arrested over the past week.
Yasir Ghazi and Zaid Thaker contributed reporting.” NYT
Here, I agree that Obama did not negotiate the way he should have. I will point out that this situation above refutes Juan Cole’s claim the Sunnis and Kurds WILL NEVER WORK TOGETHER. The Sunnis usually react by increased terrorism which will encourage a spiral of death. And what concern does Obama give the Kurds. Perhaps their love of Bush and civility towards Israel is a black mark in administration circles. On the other hand Obama ran on withdrawing from Iraq and I’m sure he considers his re-election as important as future stability in Iraq.
What is very disturbing is the spin given the Arab Spring. The NEWSPEAK required to stage withdrawal as good for our security stretches reason.
Bush did not steal Iraqi oil and dominate Iraq through many bases. Even Panetta says Iraq was worth it. The media moved swiftly to smother the story of the second Syrian nuclear facility (the spinning factory) that Ssddam allegedly sent his nuclear materials to.
Should we remain for more than eight years? Given the drama being played out in Iran and Syria, it might have been more prudent to leave some force in Iraq until the Iranian and Syrian questions are resolved. KSA should have paid the US to keep them there.
Politically, if Obama is so wrong and the situation starts unraveling before next November, Obama is hurt. If things play out towards stability, then Obama shines.
I certainly know where the odds are.
sorry for the glaring typos….very long day rebuilding a floor….
Lest we forget, the first “executive” decision their nominee (the soon-to-be-prezboy) made, was to choose Mr. Biden as hizrunenmate ….
Now, prezboy is thinkin …. bout dumbpen …. oBiden …. For Hillary!
God, help us all …
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ( how many are ready to sing, “She Loves You”?) I know Biden talks like an idiot, but lately I’ve been listening to President Obama, and he’s sounding more and more like a man who could be re-elected. He sounds sure of himself. Knows how to go on the attack. Has brilliant people around him.
It’s almost as if the Democratic operatives can read the minds of their Republican counterparts.
But really that’s neither here nor there. Is it?
Back to Biden. I know Biden sounds like he doesn’t know who our enemies are, but that’s probably because he, like anybody else, makes so many speeches he gets things sometimes pretty mixed up.
It’s all so confusing to a girl anyway. Politics. Ugh
Ordinarily I’d close and go to bed.
But I really can’t. Maybe I’m not sleepy. Except to say that I think Obama now has a 50/50 chance of being re-elected. Just food for thought. And that’s allowing for the vote stealing the Democrats are so good at.
Unless the Tea Party or the legit Republicans go on the attack like the Democrats and Obama are doing, I think Obama just may eek this election out.
I guess it would be okay to lose one more election. But this time, if we lose, I sorta don’t think we’ll have a nation to preserve, protect and defend when 2016 rolls around. I could be wrong. But I don’t think so.
But Mtt doesn’t have the balls to attack. And Newt thinks it would be bad PR to go on the attack.
Now I wouldn’t say the Democrats are paying Republican operatives off: that Republican operatives are kind of double agents against the Republicans, although the Democrats have the money if they want to pay for something like that. And the union guys to fix a screw up in a double-agent plan.
While it is part of the Alinsky playbook, it’s just to inconceivable to be true.
I guess I’m the only one that could even think up that kind of ruse.
So, no, it’s very unlikely. Of course, some lower level Republican staffers could be reporting to the Democrats. But that would be risky. You’d need the cover of the main stream media if the truth ever started to leak. Would you not? And reporters these days are notoriously middle of the road honest types, wouldn’t you say?
Now I’m not saying the Republicans should give lie detector tests to staffers. I mean that would be paranoid. Wouldn’t it?
Anyway, nice talking to you about this anemic Republican field; tactics, strategies, and and. And these seemingly inept Republican staffers.
One one thing that bothers me: like my grandad used to say, “if it smells bad, and tastes bad, and appears bad, maybe something really is rotten.”
“Unless the Tea Party or the legit Republicans go on the attack like the Democrats and Obama are doing, I think Obama just may eek this election out.”
Now, wouldn’t Axelrod love seeing the Republicans fall into that trap?
BHO – through all of his co-criminal contributors/beneficiaries, as well as through the entire lefternmost one-third of the political spectrum – is going to be vile this time around. We’re going to see new women and men and probably children of both genders coming out weekly to tearfully admit that they had repeated and glorious sex with {Candidate}, some of them years ago, some last Thursday. His/her bank accounts will be hacked and changed and used as clubs. Old medical records, and new ones, will magically appear. An ex-boss from the teen years will call him a dishonest thief. We’ll see ads with grannies in hospital beds, with the nurse yanking out the IV and spilling her blood all over the floor and yelling “{Candidate} says you’re cured! Now get out!”
Foreign people – probably Asian, the Dems historically do a lot with shadowy and rich Asians during elections – will appear on TV talking about the oodles of cash they’ve seen secretly going to {Candidate} from China. Some news anchor, in a throw-away aside sort of comment, will wonder out loud if the investigation, years ago, into {Candidates’} role in the death of ________ was ever reopened.
A noted psychologist will tell Whoopsie that it’s been accepted as proven and unassailable fact throughout the psych world for decades that {Candidate’s} attitudes and hostility, combined with his wardrobe choices, have always been clear signs of a self-hating closeted homosexual. Dems will replay the interview over and over and snigger. (Gay Dems will, once again, try not to be angry at Dems for attacking others by calling them gay.) An old black man will come forward to tell us how {Candidate} once called him “boy”.
A doctor from D.C. will come forth to tell us that he’s been handling the abortions for {Candidate’s} various ladyfriends for about twenty years. Olberman will prove {Candidate} suffers from a profound sexual dysfunction, requiring various sex toys and rope to have an orgasm. Dan Rather, reappearing in a News Special carried simultaneously on MSNBC, CNN, NBC, PBS, and The Comedy Channel, will interview an old Mexican woman who claims that {Candidate’s} maternal grandmother was actually an illegal alien from Mexico, and that {Candidate} had her home village attacked and razed decades ago to hide the proof.
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz will tearfully confess that she is {Candidate’s} love child, and that {Candidate} abandoned her mother shortly before she was born because he needed the church vote and he couldn’t be seen with sluts. And . . . there will be more. Much more. Every day, something new and disgusting, I’m guessing.
And there are enough people out there who watch the Kardashians or pro wrestling or Dancing with the Stars and who catch little snippets of news when they’re not careful and who won’t know anything beyond “I don’t know who to believe, but there are so many accusations about {Candidate} so you just can’t take the chance, where there’s smoke, there’s fire . . .”
And if we just let them – if we don’t try to outdo them with every little piece of garbage we could find or make up – then the American public stands a good chance of noticing what he’s doing. And being completely repulsed by it.
If we wade in on the attack, as you suggest, then we’ve let them pick the game, and in their game the best attackers and the best liars and the quickest to jettison principles and honesty in order to grab power will always win.
Plus, we’d be going up against the BHO – a guy who’s spent thirty or more years preparing for this, checking off all the right boxes without really caring what was in the boxes, rehearsing every utterance and burning and locking away anything from his past not useful to him now. He’s a cleverer, more evil version of Bill Clinton, with the addition of big-money backers who have been invested in him since Harvard. He learned what he knows of electioneering in Chicago, where everything’s for sale and you knife Mom if it’s a good visual. We’re not going to be able to out-sleaze this sleazebag.
We need to calmly state and restate and explain our beliefs. We need to humorously point out BHO’s total reliance on sleaze. We need to keep going over all of the Dems’ oft-repeated lies that become truths if not answered, and not let them get away with another “Bush lied.” And we need to go that far back and re-air all of those lies, repeatedly, so that voters can see the forest, and not just each tree serially.
If we attack like BHO is gonna attack, we’ll lose. Because, that’s their game. It’s all they’ve got this time, too. Let’s just watch that part, and chuckle.
Obama doesn’t brilliant people around him, he has a politically correct base of morons comprising a swath of the American public. One wonders what more overt acts of America hatred he could display than he already has.
Americans have been transformed into sheep that will not only accept gov’t direction meekly and mildly but even insist on it. This country has the exact country it deserves. Watch TV programs in America: the undercurrent is one that dislikes our history and teaches that morality, “soul” and “wisdom” is based on gender, skin color and economic status.
I’m not surprised Obama was elected and I don’t see how the GOP’s apology tour/Tower of Babel approach can unseat him. You can’t be against illegal immigration and apology for that stance to the point where it is effectively taken off the table. Reps have been muzzled and America, even if it recovers from its socialist brush with political Marxist correctness, will be so deluged by Third World failure insisting on more of the same it will be too late. We have be undone.
What is “radical Islam?” Is Islam not Islam?
“What is “radical Islam?” Is Islam not Islam?”
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It’s like “extreme right wing”. It’s used to signify something about the speaker as well as about the subject.
Open your eyes.
It is THE ISLAMIC WORLD WAR.
~ The Infidel Alliance
You’ve got THAT right.
We’ve been handing victories to the Islamic world for over half a century. The Suez crisis, the Iranian revolution and hostage crisis, Oslo, the Balkan wars, the Pakistani nukes, and now the “Arab Spring” sellout.
Joe Biden was one of the main cheerleaders for the Clinton Administration attacking the Christian Serbs in the Balkans, on behalf of Muslim interests.
But then, Joe Biden was and is stupid enough to believe all of the anti-Serb and pro-Muslim propaganda without bothering to verify anything. And that propaganda is continuing to the present day.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/19/white-house-stands-by-biden-statement-that-taliban-isnt-us-enemy/?google_editors_picks=true
Maliki demands the Kurds give up the Sunni VP
Israel says DOD and Panetta are on the same page as the IDF (really?)
Chavez calls Obama a clown that is ruining America
Meanwhile Republicans are showing disorder. Wanna laugh? Watch Sasha Cohen’s latest movie trailer. Now that is funny….
The strange thing about the middle east is that you have these strongmen from 30, 40 years ago, in the case of Syria now inherited, but no sign of such a strong man rising in the middle east today to take their place.
Gaddafi, Hussein, Assad, Mubarak, Khomeini, Arafat: where are these men? Some sea change has occurred and we have not been paying attention but may benefit nevertheless.
It’s not all good as the essentially headless Taliban have shown and in the case of Egypt taking out Mubarak essentially changed nothing. Nonetheless it is easier to not have to deal with the consequences of megalomania and their strange dreams of glory.
A system like Pakistan, Iran or the Taliban presents its own difficulties but those are different and consensus is not as threatening as one man moving armies on essentially a whim.
For those 30 or so years you’re talking about (actually, more like sixty, going back to just after WW II), the progressives have been watching and supporting all these “strongmen” in turn, dreaming of the day that one would prove to be the Ultimate Arab Warlord who would;
1. Erase Israel from the map (thereby getting rid of a state they loathe for reasons they are entirely unable to explain logically);
2. Conquer all the other Arab states (creating a Super State they see as a Euro-Union style version of the U.S., without all that “messy democracy”); and
3. Of course give them a single potentate to deal with for oil (thereby allowing them to nationalize the oil companies, ration the product, and thereby Make The World New Again).
And every single one has disappointed them. By being a typical Islamic dictator. Defined as “One who only lasts until he runs out of people to kill.”
This probably explains their present teenage-girl-swooning-over-Elvis crush on the Muslim Brotherhood. They at least understand that it is a “pan-Arab” movement, and believe that if they can sidle up to it in just the right way, it will finally, at long last, give them that Ultimate Warlord they have wet dreams about.
What is more likely to happen is that it will give them, and us, a world-class headache in the form of a Baath Party leader who has visions of being either the Twelfth Imam or Nostradamus’ Third Antichrist, take your pick.
For anyone who thinks that people can’t be deluded into doing extremely crazy and dangerous things in that way, look up “the Mahdi”, “Khartoum”, “Taiping Rebellion, China”, and/or “Chinese Gordon”.
The Muslim Brotherhood is already functionally delusional. Give them a single leader operating like the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini (which their belief system seems admirably suited to creating), and you can expect them to go full-on bat(excrement) (intercourse)ing insane.
And if they have AFPAK to go with Egypt, Syria, etc., they will be doing so with nuclear weapons in their back pockets.
Three guesses who they’ll try them out on. You only need two to win.
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The Muslim Brotherhood is essentially an immigration movement: all their hopes and dreams revolve around taking a leading role IN the West by exporting Sunni Islam by babies. Ironically it is the failure of Islam itself that has propelled this immigration. As long as the MB is in the Middle East they are isolated from world affairs as they have been in the role of always the bridesmaid and never the bride for decades. They haven’t won anything yet. Stop importing Muslims into the West and effectively there IS no MB.
How come we get such great 3D movies and such a 2D bums for President and vice president?
If I ever end up in a fox hole with any of these idiots, I know in which direction to shoot first to optimize my chance of survival.
And where in the Bill of Rights, Constitution, or Code of Federal Regulations does it empower these imbeciles to hold the working/middle class as ransom for votes from the welfare commune?
The Democrat Party is engaged in an adolescent coup for the purpose of becoming the entrenched, ruling class of the United States.
Like a dog chasing a car; What are they going to do with it when they get it?
Its obvious by now that Pakistan is no ally of the West. Afghan troops inside Afghanistan were shelled by the Pakistani army. The NATO counter strike was cleared in error by Pakistan, and they’re embarrassed by it.
The terrorist Haqqani network is operating as an arm of the Pakistani army. The Taliban is the Pakistani army’s expeditionary force in Afghanistan. Pakistan shelters, funds, trains, supplies and advises the Taliban. Pakistan is the world’s No.1 state state supporter of terrorism.
Pakistan wants a puppet regime in Kabul and run Afghanistan as a colony. Once NATO pulls out, it will likely push the Taliban into an all out civil war.
Chris Mason of the Center for Advanced Defence Studies in Washington raises an interesting proposition. The answer lies in 20th century (a study of mine)…1947-Baluchistan.
The Baluchis were never consulted about becoming a part of Pakistan. Since then, nothing more than neglect and abuse began to degenerate into genocide by the 1970′s. An independent Baluchistan would, in fact, solve many of the region’s most intractable problems quite immediately.
We eventually will pay for this administration’s stupidity with even more American lives and treasure than previously, possibly in a cataclysmic way (i.e., the nuking of an American city). Obama and his cohorts will deny to their dying days that it was their fault.
Here are 2 reasons why the far left of the Democratic Party would logically support a nuclear armed Iran
1) They feel that a nuclear Iran would provide deterrence to the US and thus prevent future wars such as Iraq/Afghanistan
2) They hate Israel but know that most of the American population will not push Israel to adopt suicidal UN resolutions. Thus, Iran could do the dirty work without Democrats having to absorb the domestic blowback
If I were Georg Soros, Thomas Friedman, Roger Cohen, I would be doing everything possible to support nuclear Iran
The Obama Administration is not confused; it knows what’s happening vey well. They are simply afraid. They can not stop Iran from getting nuclear capability. They can not stop the Saudis from developing their own nuclear capability as a response. They lost Iraq. They cannot stop Pakistan from working with terrorist groups. They cannot defeat the Taliban. The afghan government will be unable to finance its security forces for another 15 years. And the Administration chose to go the European way, the dhimmi way.
The alternative is a Cold War with the Muslim World, and this is considered too costly by the current elites.
There are 3 basic demands by the Muslim World that America must meet in order to be left alone.
1 Witdraw from Muslim Lands and do not interfere there.
2 Do not side with non-muslims against muslims, especially with India and Israel.
3 Remove obstacles to the spread of Islam in America, including free speech.
These demands were already accepted by Europe after the 1973 Oil Embargo. It appears that historical shift is taking place, and american elites are gradually choosing dhimmitude as well.
If your goal is blood-lettting throughout the world, your plan is sound. It would appear the U.S. has developed past barbarianism in order to contain its social functioniong within its borders. Let the world catch up. We cannot change that. Obama knows this is true and encourages slaughter in many countries thru the U.N., etc. His goal is world chaos and mayhem. Take a look ~ Do the research. The world does not need him in any cvapacity. He is an angry child abandoned by both his angry mother and his angry father. He is paying the world back.
HATRED A THOUSANDFOLD
If the Taliban gave safe haven to al-Qaida because they shared the same violent ideological hatred of the US, what then is that hatred now after we drove them from power and killed thousands of their warriors? It has grown a thousandfold. Al Qaida or no Al Qaida, if the Taliban return to power we will keenly feel the intensity of their blistering wrath here at home.
There is no better example of why Mr. Biden was known as the stupidest man in the Senate. And he represents our “leaderships” thinking?
Poor Joe Biden ~ Having needed to pilfer his law school exams (well documented) in order to pass his law classes, his view of ALL things is so simplistic. The reason he was chosen as obama’s vp, is that he would never GET obama’s plan for the U.S., one that is systematically being carried out SLOWLY each day so that it is unrecognizable to the average citizen, but rather looks like civil rights on parade. How many people don’t realize SLAVERY was started in Africa and continues today? Shouldn’t the obamas change things in africa first instead of slaughtering thousands of sunnis across the globe?
Biden was wrong to identify Al Qaeda as the only threat. The only significant terror threat to the US are the Wahabi. And the country that threatens the US is Saudi Arabia.
Until you can say that you have nothing to say worth hearing.
I do not write a ton of comments, however i did a few searching and wound up here Rubin Reports » Biden Makes It Seem As If You Can Only Be an Enemy of U.S. Interests If You Attack the World Trade Center. And I actually do have 2 questions for you if it’s allright. Is it just me or does it look as if like some of these responses come across like they are coming from brain dead folks?
And, if you are writing on additional online sites, I’d like to follow anything new you have to post. Could you make a list of the complete urls of all your social sites like your linkedin profile, Facebook page or twitter feed?