Secretary of Defense Panetta Shows How the Obama Administration Is Selling Out Israel…and US Interests
Charlie: “You coulda been another Billy Conn, and that skunk we got you for a manager, he brought you along too fast.”
Terry: “It wasn’t him, Charley, it was you. Remember that night in the Garden you came down to my dressing room and you said, `Kid, this ain’t your night. We’re going for the price on Wilson.’….I coulda taken Wilson apart! So what happens? He gets the title shot outdoors on the ballpark and what do I get? A one-way ticket to Palooka-ville! You was my brother, Charley, you shoulda looked out for me a little bit. You shoulda taken care of me just a little bit….”
–Budd Schulberg, On the Waterfront.
In a major address on U.S. Middle East policy to the Brookings Institution U.S. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta gave us a clear picture of the Obama administration’s view of the region. When taken along with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s recent speech on the same subject, we now know the following regarding Obama’s policy:
It is dangerously and absurdly wrong. This administration totally and completely, dangerously and disastrously for U.S. interests misunderstands the Middle East. They are 180 degrees off course, that is heading in the opposite direction of safety.
Despite the satisfactory state of relations on a purely military level, the Obama administration is not a friend of Israel, even to the extent that it was arguably so in the first two years of this presidency.
It is now an enemy; it is on the other side. Again, the issue is not mainly bilateral relations but the administration’s help and encouragement to those forces that are Israel’s biggest enemies, that want to rekindle war, and that are 100 percent against a two-state solution. And I don’t mean the Palestinian Authority, I mean the Islamists.
And the Obama administration is also a strategic enemy of Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Oman, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Morocco, and Jordan. It is also a strategic enemy to the democratic opposition forces in Iran, Syria, Turkey, Tunisia, and Egypt.
Having analyzed and studied the Middle East for almost four decades I say none of this lightly. And these conclusions arise simply from watching what the administration says and does.
In his speech, Panetta has bashed Israel based on a ridiculously false premise. Here it is:
“I understand the view that this is not the time to pursue peace, and that the Arab awakening further imperils the dream of a safe and secure, Jewish and democratic Israel. But I disagree with that view.” Nevertheless, Israel needs to take risks and particularly, “The problem right now is we can’t get them to the damn table, to at least sit down and begin to discuss their differences.”
First, there is a peculiar phrase that I have not seen used even once to describe the Middle East events of 2011, “Arab awakening” instead of “Arab Spring.” This apparently comes from the title of a new book about these events.
But what is the origin of this phrase? The Arab Awakening was the famous book written by George Antonius (subsidized by a U.S foundation to do so, by the way) advocating Arab nationalism and opposition to Zionism in 1938. The Arab Awakening began a half-century pan-Arab struggle against Israel’s creation or existence. Might this not give us a hint of what the new “Arab Awakening” is going to do? Oh, and 1938 marks the year when Great Britain desperately tried to sell out the Jews in order to gain Arab support (for the coming war with Germany and Italy). Within two years of Antonius’s book the form the Arab Awakening took was an alliance with Nazi Germany. One of the main allies of Berlin was the Muslim Brotherhood, now coming into power in Tunisia and Egypt.
Interesting parallels.
But there are three other major questions raised in Panetta’s statement.
First, does the current “Arab Awakening” imperil Israel? Yes, of course it does. By changing a reasonably friendly Egyptian government into a totally hostile Muslim Brotherhood and Salafi dominated political system closely allied with Hamas, the Gaza Strip’s ruler, and by helping establish Islamist regimes in Tunisia and Libya allied with this Muslim Brotherhood International; the changes create a four-member alliance intent on wiping Israel off the map.
Add to that Islamist domination of Lebanon by Hizballah, an Islamist regime in Turkey, and the continuing threat from Iran and you’ve got quite a regional situation.
Second, and more interestingly, why is the above true?
The answer is as follows:
- Democracy in theory is admirable but when you have masses imbued with very radical views, strong Islamist movements, and weak moderate ones, the election winners will be extremely radical Islamists. By winning massive victories, facing a weak (even sympathetic) United States, and seeing even more extreme forces becoming so popular (the Salafists in Egypt), the Islamists are emboldened to be even more radical in their behavior. Who’s going to stop them?
- We are thus not facing a springtime of democracy but a springtime of extremism.
- The Islamists don’t want peace with Israel on any terms. They want its destruction. They will not be dissuaded by a peace agreement. They will do anything possible — starting with demagoguery and ending with terrorism or even war — to block such a diplomatic solution. How can Israeli action reconcile those who don’t want peace?
As of now, the following are governed or will soon be governed by Islamists who want Israel’s destruction and genocide against the Jews there: Egypt, the Gaza Strip, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Syria, Tunisia, and Turkey.
The following are governed by those who want peace with Israel: Jordan.
- Not only is the United States not opposing this development; it is supporting it. In other words, U.S. policy is intensifying the threat to Israel, not helping Israel.
Third, why are there no negotiations? As the history of the issue since January 2009 shows, it is the refusal of the Palestinian Authority to negotiate with Israel. If Panetta and the Obama administration were either wise or honest they would acknowledge this fact. Instead, they blame Israel. Once again, U.S. policy is intensifying the threat to Israel, not helping Israel.
Consequently, Panetta’s statement that Israel has a responsibility to build regional support for Israeli and United States’ security objectives is nonsense. Let me put it in the form of a lesson in logic:
- Israeli security objectives and the U.S. national interest are consistent.
- But Israeli security objectives and Obama administration objectives are not consistent.
- And Obama administration objectives and the U.S. national interest are not consistent.
Consider Panetta’s statement:
I believe security is dependent on a strong military but it is also dependent on strong diplomacy. And unfortunately, over the past year, we’ve seen Israel’s isolation from its traditional security partners in the region grow.
But why has it grown? Because of the advance of Islamist radical regimes and movements which are not tolerant of Israel’s security needs or in fact of Israel’s existence.
This is the equivalent of Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain making the same statement in 1938: “I believe security is dependent on a strong military but it is also dependent on strong diplomacy. And unfortunately, over the past year, we’ve seen Czechoslovakia’s isolation from its traditional security partners in the region grow.”
Panetta’s suggestion, like that of Chamberlain in 1938, is that Israel should mend relations with such “traditional security partners.” Specifically, he stated, “Israel can reach out and mend fences with those who share an interest in regional stability – countries like Turkey and Egypt, as well as Jordan,”
That statement is false. Israel can’t reach out and mend fences with Turkey and Egypt because they do not share an interest in regional stability. They are no longer status quo powers; they are countries that want revolutionary change in the Middle East. And this claim takes on special irony since Israel must now not just mend the fence but build an entirely new fence to protect itself from cross-border attacks from Egypt.
Turkey today is not the Turkey of the past. Israel had good relations with Turkey when it was governed by center-right or social democratic parties. Today Turkey is governed by Islamists who hate Israel. Doesn’t Panetta understand the difference? No! Now that’s scary.
Here’s the truth: Under the Obama administration, the Islamist regime in Turkey has replaced Israel as America’s number-one Middle East friend and advisor. And this is a government about which a half-dozen years ago Israel’s ambassador told an American counterpart (as we see on Wikileaks) that this regime hates Israel and hates Jews. That message is in a State Department cable.
What about Egypt? Well, the Obama administration helped get rid of that security partner. And as for Jordan, it is understandably scared stiff. In the environment of Islamist advance it is trying to appease its own Islamists and is moving closer to Hamas as a way of surviving. And last month the king of Jordan said in a Washington Post interview that nobody could depend on America any more.
Panetta said, “It is in Israel’s interest, Turkey’s interest, and US interest for Israel to reconcile with Turkey, and both Turkey and Israel need to do more to put their relationship back on track,” But it is not—repeat not—in the interest of the current government of Turkey to reconcile with Israel. We saw this in the Israel-Turkey negotiations over the flotilla in which the Turkish prime minister wanted to ensure there would be no deal.
There are two more shockingly absurd pieces of advice Panetta has for Israel.
“This is not impossible [for Israel to try to mend fences]. If the gestures are rebuked, the world will see those rebukes for what they are. And that is exactly why Israel should pursue them.”
What does an Israeli audience think of when it reads this? Of the same old message from the West to Israel: make gestures, give concessions, take risks, and when they are rebuked “the world will see.” This is precisely the same advice given regarding the 1990s’ peace process, the freeze of construction on settlements, and the withdrawal from the Gaza Strip. And every time the world doesn’t see. After the risk is taken (and Israel’s security suffers), and the concessions are made (and Israelis die), the world is even more critical of Israel and repeats, as Panetta does, that Israel has done nothing for peace.
These are harsh words about the Obama administration and for those who don’t understand the current situation in the Middle East they will no doubt seem partisan, extreme, and alarmist.
This is the worst tragedy of all: sadly and regrettably they are quite true.
Normal president reality check: Imagine a normal president of either party. Wouldn’t that person, or the secretary of state, say something like this: We are aware that Israel now has to deal with an increased number of hostile governments in the region and we will do our best to help it meet this challenge.
He could also have been confused with the Sunni Awakening, the name of the Sunni movement to crush Al Qaeda in Iraq. That phrase is use in American news all the time.
And yes all diplomatic farces about peace with Israel are pure hypocrisy and have been for decades. Still, the real advances, like the truce with Egypt have been wonderful if few.
If you consider that everything the regime does is political you have to ask yourself what would a warring mid-east accomplish for them?
If your goal is all Communism/socialism all the time and your want the govt. to control all, a war between Israel and the mid-east could greatly enhance that.
Jeopardizing our energy/oil security by creating a mid-east war could turn many to govt. for solutions.
It could also further weaken the economy collapsing capitalism even more instilling even more govt. control of all increasing the power of the regime.In a war on capitalism/democracy this could be a good thing for the regime.
The question is could the regime lie their way out of that one? Can they make the case that Israel refused to seek a peace agreement with the PLO/Hamas etc.(would they claim that Boehner refused to go along with obamas jobs program)is it out of the realm? Maybe maybe not.
Either way it’s clear now that zeros beloved “Arab Spring” is nothing more than a crude plan to establish Sharia throughout the Mideast while claiming free elections are the culprit further jeopardizing Israel.
What’s next remains to be seen.
If your goal is all Communism/socialism all the time..
You’re saying that Obama’s goal is “all Communism/socialism all the time”, and you’re using that mad, stupid, dishonest rhetoric as a basis for analysis?
There is no appropriate response to you that doesn’t massively break this site’s policy against ad hominem attacks.
… the level of hysteria in this post is breathtaking.
take an aspirin and lie down.
For isntance “What about Egypt? Well, the Obama Administration helped get rid of that security partner.” – yes in your last fantasy post, America “installed” an islamist regime there.
I would sure love it if your posts were based in reality.
You read tepid, meaningless diplomatic language, project horrors into it and work yourself up into a panic. I think you need a job that you’re better at than this one. Maybe you should be reading children’s stories.
Thanks for that post. And very speedy – number 2! You get $5.00!
Chamberlain’s prose was tepid as well.
If you really understood the Middle East, you’d understand this. Your failure to be excited is a consequence of your own ignorance, not the author’s. The Obama administration really does fundamentally misunderstand the Middle East. And I don’t mean fundamentally as hyperbole to get people to pay attention. I mean that they get basic facts 100% wrong. All they have to do is visit Cairo and look around at all the Islamist propaganda put up on the walls, freeways, and windows, and ask the locals; they’re not shy. But somehow they only see and hear what they want.
“The Muslim Brotherhood is secular and peaceful! Turkey is a force for stability! The Palestinians are dedicated to a two-state solution and Hamas can be negotiated with! Iran doesn’t *really* want nuclear weapons!”
And it’s going to lead to another war.
“The Obama administration really does fundamentally misunderstand the Middle East.”
Obama no more misunderstands the Middle East than — as he said in his address to the ummah in Cairo, Egypt June, 2009 — he misunderstands the “Holy Qur’an”; than he misunderstands the fact that he’s “known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first Revealed.” Barack Hussein Obama is a dangerous Muslim-born president with deep sympathies for the world of Islam and (as the Qur’an, and Allah who “revealed” it, enjoins) a deep-seated contempt for Israel’s Jews; and truth be known a deep-seated contempt for Jews at large. That is why he’s essentially on Iran’s side. That is why Obama is on the Mullah’s side. It is why he is furthering the most extreme interpretation of Islam in the region; in the Middle East and North Africa. Obama knows and has “known” Islam. Wake up people. Wake up Barry Rubin.
So in order to come to agree with you, all that is needed is to “understand” the Middle East as you “understand” the Middle East – then we will all agree and I won’t be ignorant any more.
Swell.
Josh – Obama did nothing to forestall a gentle transition of power, he supported the Muslim Brotherhood and did nothing to help the moderate forces in Egypt to succeed in the election. Islamists have come to power in Egypt: Obama holds some responsibility for it.
Islamists have come to power in Egypt as a counter force to authentic Muslims who practice the great world religion of Islam. There is Islamism (a militant and political ideology, not unlike twentieth century fascism) and then there is authentic Islam, the religion of peace. Former President George W. Bush put it succinctly: “The terrorists practice a fringe form of Islamic extremism (i.e., “Islamism) that has been rejected by Muslim scholars and the vast majority of Muslim clerics; a fringe movement that perverts the peaceful teachings of Islam…..”
What is important is that in the end Egypt will have an Islamic rule. This is because Obama did nothing. If he had assisted the revolution is a secular way or supported the Egyptian Government to stay in power things may have been different. But, his Islamic roots enabled him to turn his head and allow an Islamic take over. Egypt and Turkey have been secular ruled for generations. It has been good and bad. It has been hard at times on the Egyptian people. Good in that reasonable decisions were made. Picture, if you will, if some segment of religion took dictatorial power in the U. S. We would make decisions based on our own interpretation of the religion. That is why we have separation of Church and State here in the U.S. I am a Christian. I would be pleased if everyone would become a Christian, but I don’t think it’s my place to force my religion on others. God gave us the right to choose. I chose to become a Christian, I was not forced and I can quit my faith anytime without penalty. The danger in this is that enemies of Israel and of the Christian God will/may take actions that endanger Israel and interests here in the USA. This is very provocative and can or could lead to major wars. Yes, I will die for what I believe and other religions will to. This puts us on a collision course because of Obama’s decision not to choose sides, support Islam at the expense of Christians and without regard for Israel. Many people may die because of his lack of leadership. Remember he chooses to lead from behind. Where does he stand, what will he stand for or fight for? This is dangerous. Hp
You overrate the powers of the office of the Presidency by an awful long way.
The last thing the U.S. wants is to be in the same position they were in in Central and South America where they supported dictators and in effect overturned the results of elections the U.S. disagreed with.
In an information age where the lowest citizen has access to the internet, doing that kind of thing is practically impossible now. You can’t just knock over a palace and then run the place. The U.S. knocked out armies and palaces in Iraq and Afghanistan and achieved nothing for years and arguably will have achieved little in the end other than to replace a single dictator with a group of dictators. The likelihood that Iraq will sink into chaos is rather high.
You’re a fool if you believe that. Israel is under attack by both the Muslim nations and the U.S. under Obama.
You argue against the facts without facts of youe own. What does that make you?
I don’t think “under attack” means what you think it does.
Well, now I understand the name you are using. You are certainly joshing us about being a scholar, for you clearly are nothing of the sort. Mr. Rubin’s analysis is spot on and it is abundantly clear that you have no knowledge of the Middle East.
Islamists are not your buddies and anyone foolish enough to go and cozy up to them will no doubt have their head handed to them.
Hey Josh,
Wake up Man.
Look at this then tell me this is the American way.
The National Defense Authorization Act passed by the Senate this week.
Read#13 at the end. Then You tell me. What the definition of a belligerent act? Communist are known for throwing people in jail because of something they said or wrote.
Subtitle D—Detainee Matters SEC. 1031. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS PURSUANT TO THE AU- THORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE. (a) IN GENERAL.—Congress affirms that the author- ity of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40) includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered per-
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427 1 sons (as defined in subsection (b)) pending disposition
2 under the law of war. 3 (b) COVERED PERSONS.—A covered person under 4 this section is any person as follows: 5 (1) A person who planned, authorized, com- 6 mitted, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred 7 on September 11, 2001, or harbored those respon- 8 sible for those attacks. 9 (2) A person who was a part of or substantially
10 supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces 11 that are engaged in hostilities against the United 12 States or its coalition partners, including any person 13 who has committed a belligerent act, or …
Yes I remember hearing about that on talk of the nation.
Obama said he’d veto it.
Panette is just another flag holder for the CFR global agenda. He does what he is told. Yet, he may believe it as well. Like Holder, Hillery, and Obama.
The government of America with the exception of this last election, has pushed Israel to give up more, and more land, while arming the PLO. It is my belief this government hates the unwashed Americans clinging to their weapons, and Bibles almost as much as it hates the Jews.
If I am correct, which I believe I am, why is it true?
looking at the History of the Jewish people, we read about G-d who sent morality into the world asking the Jewish people to carry the message. In 70 AD we read how this same G-d punished the Jews for failing their end of the bargin. However, it was written that Israel would be reborn in the last days, and G-d would not allow it to be destroyed.
For a majority of unwashed Americans clinging to their weapons, and Bibles the rebirth of Israel happened in 1948. A reborn Israel gives evidence of a G-d who makes things happen in this world. It is this G-d that allowed Job to be harmed by Lucifer because he was the most devout.
I realize Jews do not believe in Lucifer as a fallen Angel who hates mankind, and rules this world system. Those who follow Christ do. They believe Lucifer, or Old Knob is the serpent in the Garden of Eden who’s pride went before his downfall.
So, those unwashed Americans clinging to their weapons, and Bibles see a Supernatural hatered for the Jews by the ruler of this world system as G-d choose them to carry his message. G-d said those who curse Israel, will be cursed.
Look at what is happening in the Middle East. It is as if what Briton destroyed in WW1 is being put back together with America’s military power. I mean NATO’s military power. All of this area worships the god of the Kaaba, and follows Muhammad. Their Holy book states Jews are from monkeys, and pigs. Egypt’s Imam, on his return called what is happening an Islamic awakening. Many Muslims call for the destruction of Israel.
The CFR globalists like Penetta are pushing an agenda that helps Israel’s enemys due to a Supernatural hatered. In return they are granted money, and power. Those like Penetta do not fear the creator of heaven, and earth. They are foolish, and will bring a curse on America, as well as the rest of the world.
You really stated it plainly, nicely and most of all accurate!
I want to add the players, and their motives:
Panetta – a communist supporter (see Cliff Kincaid’s essay) and a hater of the Jews.
Obama – The hidden tape of Rashid Khalidi, the hater of the jews, toasting with Obama to ‘Death to the Jews’). (reason for hiding the tape during the campaign in 2008).
Hillary Clinton – well, she’s the Alinski deciple like the other two, Alinski didicated his book to ‘Lucifer’ – Satan.
Samantha Power – author of R2P – jew hater starting this policy towards Libya with the intent of using it against Israel in the end.
I could go on, but you get the point, the current admin is against Israel, and no amount of sweetness can hide it.
Thanks.
Did you read about Hilary’s latest attack on Israel as a democratic state by attacking the whole country for the separation of men and women in buses in ultra-orthodox sections of Jerusalem?
That Israelis want to know about the foreign funding of (subversive) NGOs?
On Saturday she gave a talk to the Saban Forum .
Gabi Ashkenazi used the phrase ‘Arab Awakening’ in a speech at the ICT’s 11th international conference (Sept 12)http://www.pictureit.co.il/ict/ , saying he preferred the phrase to ‘Arab Spring’. Can I presume he picked up the phrase in Washington where he was at one of the think tanks for much of the past year?
It makes sense.
It’s also a better choice of words even if we disregard the symbolism because it’s more neutral than the celebratory “Arab Spring”.
BTW, the answer Ashkenazi gave to the guy who presented himself as an expert on Turkey worried me. The guy (with an Arab name I don’t repeat because there’s a more famous Arab with this name and I don’t want to create confusion) basically claimed that Turkey made a strategic decision to become hostile to Israel because it has neo-Ottoman ambitions and being hostile to Israel will make it popular with the Arabs. Ashkenazi didn’t seem to understand exactly what he said (to be fair, it was clear there was some technical problem that prevented him from hearing part of the questions), but the worrying part was that he insisted the relations can go back to what they were because it’s in the interest of both sides. It’s clear why it’s in Israel’s interest, but as for Turkey – doesn’t it depend on what the Turkish government think is in Turkey’s interest? Maybe he doesn’t only think like a Westerner, but also like an Israeli. Israel doesn’t have a past of an empire or superpower, and it doesn’t think like an empire or a superpower, and maybe he projects that a little. Israel wants to survive and prosper, but what if Turkey wants to regain some of its past glory and centrality in the Muslim world? If Turkey just wants to survive and prosper, then an alliance with Israel makes sense, as it did for a long time with Turkey of the Kemalist heritage. But if the current government wants to regain some of Turkey’s centrality and grandeur in the Muslim world, than an alliance with Israel is a roadblock, and being hostile to Israel is the way to the hearts of the masses. So if the relations can be restored to what they were is very much a question of what the Turkish government sees as its interest – that is the fundamental question that should be asked. I think it’s delusional to believe the relations can be restored to what they were in the Kemalist era.
He also said that it was a mistake or some such not to let Turkey into the EU, which would have pulled her more to the Western side. But what if it had pulled the EU more to the Muslim side?
Then Ashkenazi must as big a political idiot as Barak by not understanding the culture they are dealing with.
Half the Middle East dreams of past glory since they have little else to dream about so it’s a non-issue that can be dismissed as simple overweening arrogance.
At least a last place baseball team will properly view why they are in last place and try and get better players or practice harder; the last thing they will do is sit around making excuses about how all the other teams are to blame. Let Ergogan dream of empire and men on white horses on a hill top all he wants, reality is brutal and doesn’t dream.
To all the this is 1938 and Israel is Czechoslovakia geniuses out there: Czechoslovakia didn’t have anywhere near an army capable of crushing Germany’s, nor did it have freaking nuclear weapons!!!
Well, that analogy obviously has its limitations, like any other.
The betrayal of Czechoslovakia fundamentally changed the military situation in Europe. See Churchill’s famous speech to the House of Commons on the Munich Agreement.
At the risk of stating the obvious, nuclear weapons are of little use when you are in hand to hand combat against 20 : 1 odds. Besides, Neville Chamberlain was berating those who were actually being reasonable. Then of course he stabbed them in the back.
Here is what the betrayal of Czechoslovakia did do for Hitler. It made if possible for him to invade Poland and France by giving him the most modern tanks and artillery in Europe. German tanks of that era were at best second rate. Germany’s PW1 was armed only with a machine gun and its Pw2 had only a 20mm gun. It was the Czech Skoda tank that made the real difference in Poland, France and initially in Russia. Combine that with the additional manufacturing capacity of Czechoslovakia it gave him a lot of his future where with all.
Assume for an instance that Israel no longer existed for what ever reason. Who would benefit from its arsenal of tanks, planes, and nuclear armament. Add to that its manufacturing ability and capacity. The parallel if frightening.
While Czechoslovakia did not have the offensive capability to invade Germany they did have capability to defeat a 1938 Germany invasion if they retained their fortifications in the Sudetenland. The Wehrmacht of 1938 was not the same military that invaded Russia in June of 1941. The Czechs would have crushed them in a defense campaign. If Hitler went to war, and arguably he painted himself into a corner, he would have lost and have been overthrown by the General Staff.
Effective defense is built around the certainty that the enemy will attack. Israel cannot afford to make any mistakes or leave holes in defenses. They must continue a broad strategy including economic growth, education, and political alliance wherever possible.
Just imagine if Egypt took the Israeli road. They would invest in agricultural innovation which has allowed its neighbor to become a net exporter of food. They would use the military as a springboard to develop talent which would carry over to entrepreneurial innovation and military technology. They would adopt liberal democracy to bring together all elements of society instead of pitting them against each other.
Small example. Every year on the Jewish holiday of sukkot young palm fronds (lulav) become a commodity. Normally worthless they fetch a good price I think around $20 right before the holiday. Most of those until recently came from Egyptian farmers in Sinai. This year the government of Egypt banned those sales on purely populist hatred. Israeli agricultural researchers have devised a method of preservation for the lulav allowing them to be harvested much earlier, up to six months. This will allow domestic growers to harvest enough to meet the demand without relying on imports in the future.
Egypt will not collapse over the lulav market. It will if tourism and foreign investment continue to decline. It will if Copts and other minorities no longer feel safe there. It will if it does not use market forces and leverage to promote educational and agricultural reform in a long term strategy.
Right now Israel has a little breathing room. It will not last long. Time to sharpen swords and bolster defense because it will happen.
Panetta and the whole Obama rat pack have no idea about the Middle East. They are a dangerous bunch.
Panetta and the Obama rat pack do know the Middle East now, that’s why they’re a dangerous bunch.
What? And you think BB Knows? Living in his fancy villa in Caesasria and flying around the States in his Tea Party friends jets? I am more scared of him holding the atom bomb button than the mullahs!
more scared of him holding the atom bomb button than the mullahs holding the bomb? You are an idiot.
You are a punk, indeed.
The fundamental issue regarding the Islamists is that they do not care about local economies, the well=being of their citizens, food and water. they do not want to play in the world’s sandbox of mutual cooperation. Their primary goal is the destruction of all Western beliefs and the destruction of the Jewish People. Their leaders are willing to martyr any citizen (except themselves and their own children) to annihilate in the most savage of methods anyone who is not a believer of Islam. They do not care about their own people. period.
If Egypt can build an economy? They had their chance to do so the past 30 years. Despite Russia’s military help to defeat Israel (56, 67, 73), Egypt expended tremendous military and capital resources in failed attempts to destroy Israel. If that investment of time, knowledge, and energy had been used constructively, they would not be in the position they are in today…hanging from a precarious, dangerous,and provocative precipice.
Perhaps we need more concerned writers like Barry Rubin. We need to hear, and read and gain an understanding that, yes, HISTORY DOES REPEAT ITSELF. We are old enough to be it’s witness, and we have satellites to bring us news stories in the blink of an eye, or the touch of a mouse. It is important to read and understand both or all sides of an argument or brewing disaster. Perhaps Mr. Rubin’s theories are not wholly accurate. Perhaps there is a bit of theoretical and linguistic analysis. At least he cares. And if he is right, and nobody is listening, G-d help us.
I have witnessed race riots,seen storefronts smashed and looted. I have been the bait of anti-semitism at the hands of Arab youth. I have been cajoled by Southern Baptists, my property vandalize, and I have been the victim of threats because I am a Jew. All of this in America. Wake up and heed the warnings, lest you be asleep when your door is encroached.
You may not agree with Barry Rubin or me. I personally do not care. At least he writes for the purpose of saving lives. He cares. Do You?
Well said!
Come home my comrade – Proud Israeli
There is just a slight difference between pride on the one hand and unflinching cultural superiority and arrogance on the other.
yes, there is a difference, but you can’t tell one from the other
What took you so long? Everybody had the chance to know that Obama is an anti- Semite before he was elected. Association with Wright and Farrakhan who visited another anti- Semite, Khadafi in Libya. 20 years with Wright listening to Liberation theology in addition to the anti- Israel garbage. Everything negative for Israel by Obama is no accident, it is well thought out, designed to succeed even if it harms the USA, maybe even specially if it harms the USA too. He regards the newly minted “Palestinians” as suffering from the Israeli “Occupation.” You do not need to give him a pass by saying that the administration is misinformed, they aren’t. The enormous resources of the CIA present to the White House a true picture of the Middle east. This administration is evil. I will vote for anyone running against Obama even if it is Newt the despicable. I will get sick voting for him but 4 more years of Obama is too dangerous for the children and other living things in Israel.
USA policy towards Israel:
‘We need you to bleed, and, more importantly, to be seen to bleed, by the Arab world. We will shrink you down, over time, and in return for Arab acquiescence to our needs and machinations in the wider middle east, to the smallest size sustainable by the best military technology and diplomatic invention. When the technology improves, we can and will shrink you down further. This will continue until our needs in the middle east are fulfilled. You cannot refuse. By refusing, you will lose the American veto in the UN Security Council. This will subject you crippling sanctions. You will also lose access to critical military spare parts you must have, and you will lose assurance of resupply in the event of war with your neighbors. ‘
I will draw your attention the fact that over the last 3 decades, Israel’s improving military technology has resulted not in less pressure to concede territory, but more.
With every Israeli military innovation, she gets pressed into smaller quarters. The success of ‘targeted assassinations’ in close quarters, and the current development of the defensive ‘iron dome’, do not auger well.
Fast forward 50 years, and you will have the remaining Jews of Israel, the poor, the unconnected, huddled, squatting cheek by jowl under a dome shaped forcefield covering the 200 square miles of the Tel Aviv-Jerusalem corridor, watching Russian and Korean-designed missiles, fired by Arabs and Persians, exploding against the shield, sending showers of sparks and debris into the night, wondering when the Arabs will finally figure out how to penetrate the shield, for then it will all be over. The world will look on, in paralyzed fascination, as the once mighty reborn state of the Jews, supposedly God-given, teeters on the brink of destruction. And they will think the Jews are finally getting what they deserve for the murders of Jesus Christ and Mohamed Al Dura.
MM:
You and I both know that Israel will launch armageddon long before that happens. Once the nukes start flying, this rapidly escalates into a global nuclear war, and billions of people die. People won’t be thinking about the Jews, because they will either be dead or dying from radiation sickness.
The Israelis didn’t kill Mohammed al Dura. That was proven in a French court. “The Jews” didn’t kill Christ, either. The High Priest Ananias Bar Seth, a Roman puppet, as well as Herod Antipas, killed Christ.
That’s exactly right.
It’s not what the world thinks, though, and that’s exactly the point.
The end of Israel would be no more just than those accusations.
In 1973, when Israel’s tanks and planes had been knocked out by the Egyptian forces, President Nixon asked Henry Kissinger what to do. Kissinger replied, “Let them bleed.” Nixon, a known anti-Semite, didn’t listen to his advice and instead aided Israel and saved that nation.
Heinrich will have much to account for, on his day of reckoning.
This is just more of that ‘Smart Diplomacy’. Smart for the Islamic-Despots of the ME.
unbelievable. or–actually–all too believable. and what makes it so funny is Obama’s remark the other day about not wanting to “pat myself on the back too much” for being so good to Israel.
are these people delusional? do they somehow truly think they are protecting their ally Israel? or are they anti-Semitic pro-Palestinian leftists who are doing exactly what Obama planned to do all along?
LA Times: perhaps you could release that Rashid Khalidi farewell dinner video that’s too hot to handle. I think the American Jewish voting public should be allowed to hear what he REALLY thinks about Israel.
you wrote
“are these people delusional?”
Sorta self-evident at this point, don’t ya think?
Dr. Rubin, you’re incorrect about Morocco. Islamists were voted into power there last month. I don’t see how you aren’t aware of it and you should check your facts! In North Africa and the Sinai littoral, there are or will be five Islamist or Islamist-dominated regimes: Morocco, Tunisia, Libya and Egypt plus the Hamas Islamist regime in Gaza. To Israel’s north, there are the Hezhbollah Islamists in Lebanon and the Turkish AKP Islamists in Turkey. And Islamist Iran to its east. Quite a constellation and a revolutionary change from the Arab nationalist dictatorships and Turkish secular regimes that more or less ran the Middle East until the present. Now its the Islamists who are in the saddle there.
Wrong! Algeria just voted in an Islamist government too. So much for the wonderful Arab Spring which Obama aided.
Perhaps the reason Rahm Emanuel is no longer Obamas chief of staph is because of his sons barmitzvah. The barmitzvah took place in the Old City, which was conquered by Israel in 1967. Thus, Obama considers it Palestine. By accepting Israeli security to accompany his sons barmitzvah, Mr Emanuel inadvertently supported Israeli rule over the Old City. This was too much for Obama to bear, and Rahmbo was sent packing
More from the administration proud to hate Israel:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/12/once-again-it-is-either-pure-jew-hatred-or-a-complete-ignorance-of-vicious-islamic-antisemitism-as-commanded-in-the-quranth.html
Insisting that Israel bleed will not win any peace. Trust builds peace. Trust can be built by allowing economic relations on BOTH sides.
One side breaks such relationships on a regular basis.
Guess which one that is. I am having a harder and harder time believing that this administration merely doesn’t get it. I am starting to think that they actually want to see the whole region explode in warfare.
They either have no shame or they’re even dumber than I thought. Either way it doesn’t look good.
Well, Obama and Hillary Clinton keep going into meetings with the Muslim Brotherhood – Hillary Clinton’s assistant has family members in the Muslim Sisterhood and the White House keeps giving money to the Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR. Many of these meetings were supposed to be secret and took place in the coffee house across the street from the White House. It sure doesn’t look good.
Can you give us your sources on the Obama administration giving money to the MB and CAIR? I think that we would all be interested in it.
Partisan? Actually I thought your analysis fair and balanced and quite to the point. It had not occurred to me to think of Israel in a Munich situation with Obama playing Chamberlin to multiple Arab Hitlers, but more on the Vietnam era’s McGovern democratic party’s “decent interval” while dumping Cambodia and South Vietnam–which curiously were conflicts entered into to avoid a Munich style situation of falling dominoes. I suppose or suspect the ultimate geopolitical premise underlying the current democratic foreign policy of the president is that Israel’s demise, like South Vietnam, is just not a core interest or variable to the survival of the United States. Apparently Europe, China, and Russia share similar premises regarding Israel. I hate to say it, but perhaps Israel requires a Dr. Strangelove’s dooms day device for the region; If Israel can’t survive, no one gets out alive. This doubtless would require some selective mass urban glow in the dark examples to get the point across to the knuckleheads.
If they think their survival isn’t linked to Israel’s they are wrong. Imagine what if our entire arsenal falls in the hands of our neighbors. Even if you manage to disarm Israel from any WMD it may possess before giving it away to the Muslims as a part of some megalomanic regional disarmament project, our missiles can still reach pretty far, and there are our airplanes, submarines and various other toys, and the Muslims will have nuclear technology (there is already in Pakistan and by the time you get Israel disarmed there would probably be more).
Exactly how I feel.Maybe it’s time to Declare to the Islamists
and some others that there would not be any Middle East left.
Saying no to Obama is the first step. He is playing the game
of trying to reassure the Arabs that only US can shrink Israel
and therefore help them to achieve their goals.
Putting more of their WMD under the sea is what Israel should be
doing and it seems to be doing. In a nuclear war one does not need spare parts,
may be Obama does not know it. I am of the opinion that left to their own
diplomacy the Middle East countries would more likely find an accommodation.
After all, in-spite of their rhetoric, they do not want to commit suicide.
Henry
Israel already has its “Samson Option” and the courage to use it.
The messaging is pretty clear from Panetta and from the US ambassador to Belgium.
Pin the blame on the Jews…if they aren’t going to cough up campaign money…what good are they anyway?
We can do all the military “exercises” we want…if we blueprint Israel’s isolation and then tell the world that “those lying Jews are isolationists and we have to deal with them every day”…Israel gets whipsawed by the guy who was at the Edward Said fete with Rashid Khalidi…but we can’t see the tape because the LA Times is holding it hostage.
That tape would be very interesting to review today.
The propaganda machine will never let us see it.
Obama and J Street, Soros and Malley…it’s a blueprint we’ve seen before someplace.
obama has been a rousing sucess
bringing the polity and finances of Ameirca to a breaking point
while fostering the rise of mb
the enemy in the WH
at the very time when America has to be strong
The Emergency Committee for Israel has just released a statement on Panetta and Gutman’s statements:
http://www.committeeforisrael.com/
And according to Howard Gutman, Obama bundler rewarded with the post of Ambassador to Belgium, recently essentially blamed Israel for Muslim anti semitism. If Obama is patting himself on the back for being such a good friend to Israel, Israel better be looking around for another buddy. Under Obama the US is the most unreliable and unpredictable of allies. Another Obama term would be a disaster for both Israel and America.
There is a difference between blaming Israel for Muslim anti-Semitism and saying Israel is in a position to rise above the situation, take advantage of their position and act unilaterally to defuse the situation as they did in Gaza. You can’t hold a tiger by the tail forever so the West Bank will have to be dealt with one way or the other so why not now?
you couldn’t be any more stupid . . .
Obama: The Neville Chamberlain of our time.
I think the better parallel would be Joseph Stalin. Chamberlain sought to buy peace with Hitler through appeasement, selling out the Chechs in the process. Stalin saw an opportunity to grasp move of Poland by aligning with Hitler and supported Hitler’s expansionist moves accordingly. Obama is not trying to buy peace for Israel. He is seeking to further his own agenda by aligning the US with the insane Islamists. He knows full well he is inviting war by doing so and is perfectly content with that likelihood.
obama is nothing more nor less than a fascist. a muslim fascist. he is a foul stench.
Yes, the American left has turned on Israel –because in America Israel has too much influence !
Let’s put it even clearer: if Israel’s influence causes her doom, then doom is the result of her influence.
Some influence!
…which goes to show that, tho American leftists may well know exactly what they are doing, they haven’t the foggiest notion of why they’re doing it.
What rubbish. If Israel has so much influence how comes that:
1. The US went to war against Iraq and Afghanistan instead of against Iran which Israel sees for a long time as its number one existential threat?
2. To ease Saudi fears from same Iran the US made a mega arms deal with them, in spite of Israeli objections to arming one of its enemies to such an extent?
3. The US have pressured Israel over and over to make more and more risky concessions in spite of them literally blowing up in Israel’s face every time?
Let me offer a possible explanation to all this and much more. The Muslims:
- Control a large part of the earth’s natural resources.
- Control a large part of the earth, including important ports and passages, and territories oil pipes go through.
- Have an amount of oil-derived wealth that dwarfs any wealth owned by Israel supporters, and invest a lot of it in the West.
- Are the majority and rule about 54 states (and new ones are added every decade) and the OIC makes the second largest states association in the world after the UN.
- Form a large market for export to several important superpowers.
- Create allinces and strategic political associations with Europe, Russia, non-Muslim Asian superpowers and Latin America, particularly Latin American oil states, which gives the Muslims even more political influence re the earth’s natural resources.
- Have growing constituencies in Europe, Latin America and North America, and large constituencies or communities in Several Asian countries and in Russia.
- Are 1.6 billion people and growing.
- Have the automatic support of leftist ideologues in the media and academia.
I just realized, reading your other comment on this thread, that you were being sarcastic, so I apologize for the knee jerk reaction.
You don’t like Obama’s Mideast policy NOW?
Once the fund-raising is over and Obama is re-elected, …….
Scary.
Precisely. All bets will be off. Whatever restraint he has shown (and it hasn’t been much) will no longer be needed. As you say, scary. This is why we all must rally behind whoever our candidate is and set aside any sense of frustration or disappointment. It’s down the wire and things are quite dire (rhymne not intentional).
May God watch over & protect the people of Israel until we can get this administration out of office and replaced one who is a true friend to our ally.
You are too charitable towards Jordan.
My standard sound-bite:
“The war on terror will be won when one can no longer buy Mein Kampf on the street corners of Jordan”
Jordan is on its way out. The King wants peace, but the Queen and the people want war. At the current time, however, Jordan is on the side of peace.
We just had 8 years of Muslim political dissenters killed, tortured, and imprisoned by Bush and e Republicans withe the support of Israel and the Jewish lobby, which had too much influence with Bush. Now that Israel lobby has been thrown out and told they are going to be treated like everyone else, they are crying as always. Israel is the modern day South Africa, an apartheid state that treats the Palestinian people like vermin and refuses to abandon the land the rightfully belongs to the indigenous Palestinian peoples. If Israel just went away, the Middle East would be a much safer and secure place. Any final solution to the problems in the Middle East must include the elimination of Israel as a state.
No, there is another final solution. The elimination of the vinnieboombots. I prefer this latter, because a virtuous people advancing the cause of humanity is better than a bunch of nazi goons looking for thrills.
You must be only eight years old? For your information there have been roughly 1400 years of Muslim political dissenters killed, usually women, and usually by Muslims. Attempted Muslim final solutions (in the German sense of that term) to the “Jewish problem” has happened repeatedly, and before Bush arrived on the scene to spank a few Arabs and Afghans for killing Americans and other ethnic nationalities, including Jews. For your information, “Palestine” was the Roman name for an imperial province inhabited by the Jews, among other cultures predating Islam. You must be confusing Israel with South Africa circa the 1980s when blacks were second class citizens, like second class non-Muslims currently under Muslim Islamic governments. Since you’re only eight years old and assuming you’re catholic and Italian, the authorities in Mecca may make an exception for you and allow your visit. Ciao.
–he may be referring to the Canaanites, whom the ancient Israelis did displace from some valley in one small area of modern Israel. If so, then fine, let’s ALL, all the human species, go back to where we were 3,500 years ago. First of course, we need to know, are we following the matrilineal or patrilineal line? After that’s decided, well, for me, my place here in Texas has to revert to the Comanches or whoever pre-dated them, and my extended bunch has to go back to Norway. Hope there’s room. Maybe i can get a waiver from Obama and just move to wherever the Canaanites are since they will be vacating wherever that is and going back to that valley in Judea or wherever it was.
So that’s that. It’s all pretty simple once you write it out in words.
Think how hard it would be, Vinnie, if we hadn’t already decided on THAT valley and THOSE two tribes at THAT time, and still had before us to make the choice from all the valleys in all the lands on all the continents, and the choice from the succession sequences of all the clans, bands, and tribes that occupied all those valleys in all the times and eras between now and the advent of Homo Sapiens Sapiens say 200,000 years ago!
Whew! Thank goodness, eh Vinnie, the Jews started ‘writing’ and wrote down a good-as-any start point right there in the pages of their own Book! We’d have been in a real pickle otherwise, wouldn’t we, figuring out how to … hmmm … what … play God?
At first, I marveled at your ignorance. Then I realized that it wasn’t ignorance, it was stupidity. That, or sarcasm. Which is it?
oops sorry – we’re not going yet. BTW Hitler said that we were the cause of Versailles! Anyway what country would accept 6000000 Jews – not america for one.
and BTW the vast majority of wars in the past 3-40 years involved Muslims.
and BTW when you guys stop genital mutilation on young girls – removing their clitori w/o anesthetic and using broken glass – you can talk to me again!
Independent or paid troll or wanna-be dictator?
“Any final solution to the problems in the Middle East must include the elimination of Israel as a state.”
Now where have I heard that phrase ….
If banks left their doors open at night thieves wouldn’t have to use guns to rob them; peace would ensue. Using the term apartheid is problematic as barriers that separate you from people that want to kill you are more similar to trenches in WW I than a racial agenda. The East India Company and South Africa followed segregationist policies to enable not so subtle naked conquest; Jews were fleeing Europe, some to create a space where they could not be rounded up and murdered – a slightly different imperative wouldn’t you say?
I don’t think Jews came into the Mandate and pre-Mandate area convinced they would have resort to national and civil wars. Hate cuts both ways and if the Palestinian Arabs are under a boot heel now it is because they chose violence over living in peace with their new neighbors. A polity will be under siege only as long as they refuse to give up and the lack of complaints by Muslims when the West Bank was occupied but not annexed by Jordan for 20 years speak to a racial and religious agenda by the Palestinian Arabs.
is the obliteration of israel and extermination of the jews, and that hate doesn’t cut both ways
hey, vinnie. if you just went away, think how happy your family, your neighbors, your neighbors’ kids, your co-workers, the bank, the deli in your neighborhood, and the rest of us would be.
The Obambi administration is not anti-Israeli that is merely a manifestation of their anti-Americanism. The question is why is anyone surprised by by the administrations foreign policy “successes” in destroying American interests in the middle east. Obama’s maternal grand parents and mother were Marxists, his father was a Marxist as well as a Muslim. His political career was kicked of at the home of Bill Ayers and his wife Bernadine Dorn both of whom are to this day unrepentant of their anti-American beliefs. Black Liberation Theology is the Marxification of religion with the Rev.Wright serving as his mentor for what 20 years. Andy Stern of the SEIU is the most frequent visitor to the white house who like to say “workers of the world unite isn’t just a saying anymore it’s practical”. Not to mention the long list of communists in the administration.
Obama is a Marxist most of his friends and family are Marxists.
Marxism is fundamentally apposed to what most people think America is or what they want it to be. The only conclusion I can come to is that this administration is with malice of forethought destroying this once great country.
gverdi,
We knew all of this and we elected him to office. We know it all still and even more so. Will we re-elect him?
Will he re-elected? Probably, he is still sexy, which is far more important to the average voter than the fact he hates America and wants it reduced to dictatorship.
I don’t think most people know Obama is a hard Marxist and even more refuse to believe that this administration is as anti-American as it is. Many people naively or purposely close their eyes to the facts that show his communist ideology and when attention is drawn to it you are considered a fringe lunatic.
The Bush Admin (W) was not much better in substance, in terms of its demands of Israel.
With Obama, the policies are similar, but there is the added layer of contempt, tangible and graphic.
With Bush, one had the feeling he was sorry to have to push Israel into a corner, but had to do it, as those were the economic and political imperatives he was obligated to satisfy, just another in a long line of presidents that felt they had to do so, what with the State Department and Arab leaders breathing down their necks.
They were wrong of course, but that is another discussion.
No, Obama relishes his bullying, and consequently overdoes it, clumsily. The other difference is that it should be becoming obvious by now how wrong this sacrificing Israel on the alter of Arab demands is, and one has the feeling that many American politicians and strategic thinkers have realized this.
Obama’s hatred lets him carry on with the Israel bashing and sacrificing, just as his socialist if not Marxist biases blind him to the proper solutions to the economic catastrophe the nation is in.
Perhaps Secretary Panetta would like to do a book review of the new Iranian best book prize at the Khorassen Book Fair, “How Israel Should Be Destroyed” and then pass it on to the President to read over his upcoming vacation in Hawaii.
GVERDI
How can anybody say it more clearly than gverdi? I’ve tried, but it doesn’t sink in. Six ways till Sunday I’ve tried.
Scienter. The word means intent. Obama’s got it. An ill intent.
The fact of the matter: Obama and his brown shirts aren’t just trying to use Israel. Or send Israel a message. They’re out to destroy Israel. But that’s just part of it. They’re trying to destroy this nation.
Why Dr. Hanson won’t admit this I’ll never know. Why 95% of the people in here everyday refuse to see Obama’s intent to bring down this nation is beyond me.
Why Roger Simon won’t address this fundamental aspect of Obama drives me nuts.
Why Hannity, O’Reilly, Beck, the whole bunch of conservatives won’t scream the truth about Obama is mystifying.
It’s’ not a case of Obama’s people misunderstanding the middle east. It’s not that Obama’s people are naive. It’s that they hate Americanism. American freedom. Capitalism. The profit motive. A free press. Freedom of speech. Throw in the entire bill of rights. And the Constitution.
Barry Rubin dances around it. It’s a great article. But incomplete.
Until you admit somebody is out to destroy you, you won’t do anything to prevent it form happening.
You can’t beat alcoholism till you admit you have the disease.
In all candor, before Obama’s finished, this nation might be a memory.
People, Obama is your enemy. Your deadly enemy. We have a mole in the White House capable of bringing the whole country down. Obama knows exactly what he’s doing. As you kiss your children goodnight, at least consider what I’m trying to say.
Or you can kiss your freedom goodbye.
Um…doesn’t Beck scream about it all the time, which is why all the other “conservatives” think he’s a whack job and he no longer has a gig at Fox News?
for a pointed and most eloquent comment
i also fully share your exasperation with hanson, hannity, simon, o’reilly, rubin, etc. but beck happens not to be one of them in this respect (as the other reply points out as well).
WRITTEN MAY 18, 2010. EVEN BACK THEN THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL.
32. rachel peepers
Bloomberg, Obama and Holder. Los tres amigos can run for the hills, but they can’t hide. If they try, one way or another Americans who care about the ideals this nation was founded upon will smoke them out. Make them show themselves for the bombastic radical Islamic apologists they are.
Not even the Sunday morning mouthpieces for the Democratic party can provide political cover anymore. They call it an anti-incumbency mood, but they lie like politicians. Today’s electorate is going for the left wing jugular like a fullback goes for the goal line. The old apathetic American electorate has turned on Obama because the Obama administration has turned on America.
Three months into his Presidency, though, with Barack’s approval numbers still sky high, people writing on the best conservative blogs, from Pajamas Media to Hewitt’s Town Hall to Ms. Malkin’s stash of good stories to Fran Porretto’s Eternity Road, were sniffing out the skunk in the House. Predicting not just left wing political disaster, but disaster for the nation. Dr. Victor Hanson wrote some great quotes to this effect, but it’s too late in the evening to track them down. I still haven’t seen my taped version of “24.” Suffice to say, Victor Hanson’s two cents were worth every penny. And Hanson’s pennies are made of gold.
The old apathetic voter has taken its place with the eight-track recorder. Today’s Americans have the mettle of Marines. Last time I looked, Barack’s cage was so rattled he’s come to call fellow Americans who happen to disagree with him politically, “sexual perverts.” Tea Baggers. Have you seen the 40 and 50 year old men and women at the Tea Parties? In your face, Obama. Americans are mad as hatters, and if I were Barack, his stoolies or anybody who smells Democratic, I’d be running for the hills, too. Either that or be retiring so quickly Saul Alinsky be spinning like an Olympic figure skater.
These Obamunists have run the national debt ragged. Tried to nationalize every industry they can get their paws on. Obama’s bowed to every two bit dictator he can clink glasses with overseas. And treated every friend of America like a long lost enemy. These same progressives who used to say that dissent was the highest form of patriotism now whine that dissenters are some form of seditious low life.
If Obama’s counting on apathy to return in 2012, he’s in for a huge surprise. Barack, you’re doing your best to try and put us in the worst financial bind imaginable. Trying to discredit and desecrate the first ten amendments. You nominated a 5’ 3” puppet for the Supreme Court. A summary injustice. You jammed through an ObamaCare bill that’s virtually unrepealable, ruining the world’s best heathcare system with 2,000 pages of viral gobbledygook. And the list of your misdeeds is growing at the the speed of a Michelle frown. You’ve accumulated more Frequent Liar Miles in a year than the Clintons (the entire family) will have accumulated in a lifetime. Your decision to put missile defense on the back burner is as dangerous as it is disgraceful. You say some people make too much money, while the words, “radical Islam” you won’t say at all. Everything that smacks of American tradition you smack down. Anything that smells of Marxism like your idiotic slip-of-the-redistribution-of-wealth tongue remark you embrace like you’re holding a Playboy Bunny. You call the new Arizona Immigration law vile without having read it while you demonstrate a venomous dislike for saluting the American Flag.
Does anybody ever consider what Russian Generals are thinking? “I wonder what Barack’s response would be, comrades, if we decided to vaporize Israel tomorrow? Hah. Hah. Hah.”
Well, Rachel Peepers can tell you. President Obama would grab what they call the “football”; the code books needed to launch a full retaliatory response. And he’d punt.
May 18, 2010 – 12:01 am
Rachel, as I said to gverdi:
“We knew all of this and we elected him to office. We know it all still and even more so. Will we re-elect him?”
speak for yourself, “WE” did not vote for him. willfully blind, stupid, greedy, racist (ooh, vote for the first black president, prove you’re not racist) people did.
I, otoh, tried to pursuad the PC crowd who was enamoured of him that he was dangerous.
I agree, he is totally aware of the destruction he is wrecking – that was his intent. one thing he does know how to do it agitate.
Michael Totten states on his blog on this site the all Arabs are Nazis
Well–there goes his last shred of credibility
–in California the vast majority of American Arabs are Christian
–Totten is crazy
Turkey and Israel should mend their fences
–Turkey was the first Muslim country to recognize Israel.
Turkey is a long time NATO member and a strategic ally of the USA.
Turkey and Israel had a long term tourist, commercial and diplomatic relationship
–shame it was destroyed –hope it comes back for both parties
?Turkey and Israel had a long term tourist, commercial and diplomatic relationship
–shame it was destroyed –hope it comes back for both parties”
Just one question: Who destroyed it (the relationship). Did Israel go out of its way to poke a finger in Turkey’s eye? I don’t think so.
No. He quoted (with actual quotation marks) Albanian prime minister Sali Berisha who said “Iran and its leader Ahmadinejad are the new Nazis” and “Israel will accept an independent Palestinian state, but Israel cannot accept the fundamentalists amongst Palestinians because their ideology is identical to that of the Nazis.”
And what Mr. Totten did say is that the attitude of Abanian Muslims like prime minister Berisha shows that they are very very different than Arab Muslims.
You are either lying or you are so upset that you can not read accurately.
By the way if I had to guess, I would say that Victor is not this incompetent, he is actually this deeply dishonest. I’ve read his posts on Mr Totten’s site for years.
what the hell did you expect from a bluegummer?
know that Obama is selling out Israel and US interests, and there’s not a peep out of them.
If this kind of Panetta thinking persists for any length of time and is consistent within the Obama administration, there will be another Middle East war that Israel will again win and again be blamed for all the problems that war will have created.
The Obama administration has been laying the groundwork for precisely this frame for some time now, repeating the meme that if Israel attacks Iran, there will be global economic collapse (as if that’s not already happening!) and Middle East unrest (what’s new) because of Israel’s actions. We all need to work very very hard in 2012 to do everything we can to make sure the GOP candidate is elected because the stakes are just too high to be complacent in any way, shape, or form.
Barack Hussein Obama does NOT misunderstand the Middle East, and his administration’s ME policy is NOT at all confused, incompetent or misinformed.
Obama is a Muslim Brother, and as such he has acted competently, diligently and consistently for the goal of support and advancement of his parent organization.
Please get it through your heads, people: he is doing exactly what he believes in and what he is paid for. At least on the international arena.
Hey Mahaaraja.
Cant understand why you don’t scare me! I want, with all my heart, for the Muslems to improve their lives and live for the future. I have had enough of war and killing.Believe me.
The world and living has so much to offer. You are being fooled by your oil barons and mullahs. I have been to Ramala not so long ago – what a change. They genuinely want peace – they have hope that you don’t.
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Josh, Obama and his administration fully supported this “Arab” spring even after many had warned the Islamists would take charge.
His own security mouthpiece even described the Muslim brotherhood as a “secular” group.
Now I know for a fact that you are an Obamaphile, I know for a fact that you despise republicans and I know for a fact that you haven’t the slightest idea what you’re talking about re the middle east, or Egypt, that’s why you asked Abu to comment here.
The fact is josh, that you and the rest of the obamaphiles have become unhinged by the now forgone conclusion that President Obama and his administration, who obviously, like you, hasn’t the faintest idea about the realities of Islamist ideology, is going to be voted out of office next November.
Hence the “lashing out” by obamaphiles such as yourself, his incompetence is causing the obamaphile left to become as unhinged as the malignant far left.
I would suggest that Leftists such as yourself josh are the ones who should lay down and take your medicine, you see it’s the Obama administrations incompetence and its projection of weakness that has caused the Islamic world to sense its time for a restoration of the caliphate has arrived.
Oh yes josh and one other thing, don’t bother with aspirin, I would suggest Prozac for you leftist obamaphiles.
Obama’s merest whims don’t magically become reality.
So the question would be, what POLICY would have prevented a Muslim Brotherhood win in this election.
There answer is:
No policy that denounces the public for voting the wrong way is useful for the US and no policy that prevents elections is possible without destroying US credibility and power.
If you are going to denounce Obama for having the wrong policy, you have to have conceived a better policy first, and there is none possible.
As I pointed out in other threads, we can’t support a massacre of the democrats in Egypt, nor an invasion … There isn’t anything we can do.
The president called Libya “a shit sandwich”, obviously he saw it going belly-up, but once again go on NAME a policy that is feasible.
You can’t.
And you know perfectly well how we got in there with the best of intentions because our allies wanted support and because Gadaffi was strafing peaceful protesters with gunships. Certainly allowing that is against our principles.
Just because you act properly doesn’t mean the situation isn’t continuing to deteriorate.
KNOW YOUR ENEMY. Sharia Law is the true enemy here and we are spending $Trillions of US Tax dollars to put Sharia Law into Country after Country.
Any country that has Sharia Law, as part of its constitution, has a sworn population dedicated to warring against America. Sharia Law is part of Egypt’s, Iraq’s, Afghanistan’s, Syria’s, Turkey’s, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Libya’s constitutions. So no matter how much money America dumps into any of these countries, their citizens are required by law to Jihad against America, or the citizen can be beheaded in a public square for turning their backs on Islam.
What would really kick Obama and his Al-Ikhwan in the teeth is to elect anti-Sharia Law Bachmann into the presidency. This tiny woman would chew these Sharia Law Supremacists up and spit them out. If she were commander and chief, Sharia Law would no longer be funded by US Tax Dollars.
Obama’s father and uncle were lifetime dedicated Al-Ikhwan. Obama admits in his book Dreams FROM my Father that he had a breakdown at his father’s grave and Obama dedicated his life to his father’s dream, that of the Al-Ikhwan.
Every move Obama has made in Office is to fulfill Al-Ikhwan’s goal of bringing down America from the inside and worldwide Sharia Law.
The really sad part is that this is all about the Al-Ikhwan and Saudi Arabia running out of oil and desperately needing to expand to get more oil. Sharia Law instituted into constitutions worldwide is their method.
Bill,
As I said to Rachel and gverdi:
“We knew all of this and we elected him to office. We know it all still and even more so. Will we re-elect him?”
The Israeli Left which is quite large agrees with Panetta: it would help all of you to read the press there. It seems that the majority of Israelis believe that some sort of negotiated peace is possible.
We need look no further than local politics to know that Panetta and Obama are just mirroring what the locals think.
If you look at a map, not only is Israel indefensible less Judea and Samaria, but is so small that no third power guarantee would be fast enough to prevent the country from disappearing: We are not defensible.
Israel has to win allies, not from words, but the ability to offer honest value, and Israelis don’t like that idea. It is sad, but Israel does not have long to live.
Israel has as long to live as western civilization, less about three to five years, should the end be political, and less about one day, should the end be in the minds of mankind. In the meantime, there’s many a slip twixt cup and lip.
I am left and I agree with Panetta. With a peace with Palestinians things just may a bit better. As far as Iran is concerned – sh sh – don’t worry – I don’t trust BB but I do trust Mossad our soldiers and our hi-techers. Sh Sh its already happening! Read your papers – and that is only what is exposed.
BTW World bank stated a few years back that without Israel world hi-tech would go back 20 years. Every PC or cellphone has a huge amount designed and or manufactured here. Buffet, IBM, Intel etc etc etc cant all be wrong!
Left wing – extremely proud – extremely optimistic – extremely Zionist Israeli – living under shadows of 45 thousand missile on the N Border.
You chose your user name well!All the lazy, lewd and loaded will agree with you. Have fun!
Your comment lacks logic. If Israel is indefensible without
Judea and Samaria, then obviously it cannot relinquish this
territory without military control over it. The majority of
Israelis do not support committing suicide to satisfy the left
wing at Haaretz. You suggest that Israel offer values to it’s
enemies to beg for peace. This sort of servility has never worked
in the past, and will certainly not work with regimes bent on
eliminating Israel. A much more realistic policy would be to
confront these regimes with a choice: working for true peace or
mutual assured destruction. In this sort of a choice Israel
small size becomes irrelevant.
henry
RUBBISH They talked this way 30 40 years ago when area was important. The Allon (left wing) plan was to keep the high ground. In modern warfare this has become irrelevant.
” The majority of Israelis do not support committing suicide to satisfy the left
wing at Haaretz.”
I’m not sure a lot of Haaretz reporters do, either. Whoever said a reporter’s job is to talk truth to power was speaking indefensible hooey. The game of the mainstream media is to ensure access to sources. Collecting news from Arabs and Muslims is very difficult when they are unfriendly. A MSM man is in debt to his sources and tailors his story to suit.
American politicians started to perceive this in a big way in the 1960s. As one (I think it was LBJ) bitterly put it, the source of a news leak was shown by the fact that the leaker was the one guy in the article who was always praised. And it’s still true even in the 21st century – think of Secretary of State Colin Powell’s close relationship with the press. Once he and his deputy were out leaks pretty much vanished.
This is a new age when it comes to warfare in that mostly flat and exposed and relatively cloudless area of the world compared to 1973. No tank columns could come out of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan or Egypt without being exposed long before they massed. What might actually tactically follow is unknown but interior lines in Israel would give them the advantage. Tank columns must be protected either from the air or by surface to air and this is problematic as witness how the 1973 War unfolded when Egypt was enticed beyond the range of their covering missiles.
If Israel felt it was in danger of being overwhelmed, they might use tactical nukes to destroy the supply lines or even cities necessary to support any invasion. I just don’t see any of those 4 surrounding countries taking the risk of attacking Israel. There is so much more to lose for them than to gain. Not having Jews in the middle east won’t change a thing in the Arab world and despite the level of brainpower ascribed to Muslims I think they know this. Mubarak wasn’t in love with peace, he was in love with the idea of Cairo not being occupied by Israeli tanks and the Sinai in Israeli hands and well knew the reality of both.
Check out ‘raincoat’( milgeshem) – Israeli developed vehicle and tank active protector – amazing – we are selling to USA. And many things we don’t know. Dont forget we developed the drone ( which the US rejected for years)
PANETTA JUST DOESN’T GET IT
He doesn’t understand that Israel’s sin (its intolerable, unpardonable, unforgivable sin) is that it’s non-Islamic; that its existence is a refutation of basic Islamic truths; that it calls into question the Koran as divine revelation and Mohammed as the ultimate prophet of God. Panetta doesn’t understand that nothing short of surrendering to Allah, and accepting Islam as the one true Abrahamic faith, will end Israel’s isolation in the Middle East and Islam’s war against all Jews.
panetta does get it, he wants israel taken out also, just like obama, clinton, khalidi, rice, power, ayers, dohrn, and all the rest of this rat pack do.
Everybody forgets the Qur’an does NOT ALLOW PEACE WITH JEWS!!!! what is the matter with the brainaics? THERE WILL NEVER BE PEACE BETWEEN ISLAM/MUSLIMS AND EVERYONE ELSE – let alone Muslims allowing Jews to live in peace ANYWHERE!!! it’s just not permitted.
Hey Don Leon: READ BOOKS!!!! READ SOME HISTORY!!!! tool……. he and Obummah are going to get us all killed…. shit – I want to live!
al-wala’ wa’l-bara’ – we will all die for MAINSTREAM Islam.
why me, why me……. leave me alone……just go away
Most of the media is spending the time on the story concerning SOD Panetta flying back & forth to California, just to discredit him. I believe that there are several people in this Administration who know what this president is all about and are simply frustrated and are not being heard. Hopefully SOD Panetta can be heard by us all and we back him with getting Obama to be a one term President as Mr Hannity preaches on his into every day.
Its not SOD, its SOB. This SOB has acted out as a blatant communist, amoralist and enemy of the USA for many years past.He is a person without redeeming virtue.
Now, brother Barry, finally wake up, thirty years too late, and smell the coffee! Panatta, like Obama is a Public Enemy. He aids and abets B. Hussein’s desperate attempts to destroy the USA as quickly as possible.
Islam is not a “great religion”. Islam is an international criminal conspiracy to control the world, by any and all means, and that includes the USA
Oscambo will ruin or economy by printing worthless dollars in prodigious quantities, and freely distributing those dollars to the International Bankers who, in turn, will finance the socalled Arab Awakening.
But what the fatass moneylenders haven’t calculated accurately is that, when the islamists have conquered the world, they won’t tolerate Rothschild types; they will torture and kill them, masking that genocide, like all others, with a pseudo-religious cover.
Folks, do we permit satanists to sacrifice grandmas on weekend evenings?
Oh! Why not? Don’t they have freedom of religion? Oh, but not to the point where they may attack others? I see! Now, apply that principle, excuse the expression, Islam. Got it?
Not only should policy be more pro-Israel. In addition (but without subtracting from being pro-Israel) it should work to ensure that opposition voices in the new “democracies” can’t be suppressed and the new constitutions drawn up not lock in intolerance and anti-Israel bigotry. One-man-one-vote-once doesn’t make for a democracy.
“This administration totally and completely, dangerously and disastrously for U.S. interests misunderstand the Middle East.”
I just have to shake my head and wonder why someone as smart as you could still think or say that.
No, THEY don’t misunderstand. YOU do.
You and a great many others totally and competey, dangerously and disastrously for your interests misunderstand this administration.
“The problem right now is we can’t get them to the damn table, to at least sit down and begin to discuss their differences.”
Crock o’ crapola, Leon. Anyone with 1/2 a brain already knows those “differences”, evident over decades now.
Howard Gutman was in the news yesterday, Obama bundler & fundraiser rewarded with an ambassadorship to Belgium.
Obama Fundraiser and Ambassador Blames Israel for Anti-Semitism
On the question of understanding or not understanding the Middle East, I do agree that much of the seeming “misunderstanding” is intentional policy.
Watch this video, Robert Menendez (DEMOCRAT-N.J.) rips the admin. a new one on Iran policy.
Signs of intelligent life in the universe
Barack Obama is really not known for what and who he “actually” is but America now has a very good ideal of what his ideology stands for in three very long years while in office. He has destroyed America from within and created enemies from the outside. With that said, Barack Obama deserves this award shown below that is on the video. It will be the appropriate item to place on the mantel at his Presidential Library he will build starting in 2013. Funds for this project will have to come from the Communist Party one would assume.
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Let us not forget this comes on the tail of Amb. Gutman’s speech signifying that it is OK to hate Jews, that it is likely Israel is an illegitimate country, that it is OK to ban Jews in Muslim countries, and that anti-antisemitism is acceptable to this administration if it is coupled with dislike of Israel.
This is now official policy folks.
“The problem right now is we can’t get them to the damn table, to at least sit down and begin to discuss their differences.”
I have one very simple question: How do you sit down to resolve differences with another party when that party’s stated goal is to kill you, your family and every other Jew and wipe your state clear off the world map. Has anyone in this anti-semitic, communist based regime which goes under the moniker of the Obama administration asked themseleves this question. If the answer is yes than they are either unbelievably stupid or unbelievably evil. There is no other explanaton.
“The Islamic people want peace and harmony for the world!”
And that kind of tripe coming from our government leaders just highlights their incompetence and should show any thinking person how dangerously close we are to ‘the need to pull these people down’!
Leon Panetta knows squat about the real world – Hillary Clintons only claim to being a world leader was after she was shot at in Bosnia by a mythical shooter shooting mythical bullets – Eric Holder is a bigger prevaricator that the President and B. Hussein O is hell bent on destroying our nation and turning it into a weak communist contributor to a world order dreamed of by George Soros.
Voted out of office – can we really afford to wait?
King Solomon once wrote “there is nothing new under the Sun” and “what has been, will be”. Considering that King Solomon was the wisest man ever in the history of the world, after Jesus, it would behoove us to pay heed to his wisdom. What people consider as a linear life-time is actually cyclical; they just don’t live long enough, as a rule, to see “what goes around, comes around”. I believe that that too will soon be done away with because Jesus said “if the days were not shortened….no man would survive”. So, in the end, it really doesn’t matter what Obama thinks of Israel. What matters is what God thinks of Israel and we all know that, or should. Israel is where God chose to place His Name and is the “apple of His eye”. All effort on the part of Obama and his Administration that leads to the dissolution of the land of Israel will come back to haunt him, and them, in ways he cannot, obviously, imagine. The presumption of Panetta, as a voice for the Obama Administration, is beyond audacious and brings grave danger to America. The Palestinians don’t want to share the Land with Israel, they want it all and for the Israelis to be gone. It’s not going to happen. What is going to happen is that God Himself will fight for Israel. Put succinctly; that ends the discussion.
Barry Rubin:
Two year ago I wrote you that Obama is the ultimate Manchurian President and his objective is to create chaos, weaken America, destroy western civilization and wipe Israel off the map. You replied -no- he is just an idealogue. He did say then that “America is the biggest Muslim country”. Everything he has done since then has proven my point. He has succeeded, so far, beyond his wildest dreams only because we have let it happen.
i have always considered the jewish people to be some smart folks, in general. however, with that said, my opinion of them has taken a nose dive. they not only helped finance obiwon’s campaign for dictator, their votes pretty much helped put him over the top, not that he had much to run against.
the world is set to explode. arab spring has sprung and the arab bro’hood answered. Israel sits on a powder keg and obiwon is playing with matches. the u.s has been gutted financially and every other way. commies sit in the big house, and we are stuck with a congress that couldn’t lead barney frank to a gay bar in frisco full of new political appointees.
we have real Americans blowing “CHARGE” while sipping tea, occupiers doing a poor redux of 1968, and the msm reporting none of the news worth reporting. our borders apparently don’t exist, and those who openly break our laws seem to be constantly rewarded, as long as they are pro-obiwon.
i have a great respect for those in history who foretold of our time, and what is to come of us. many ancient civ’s did and built things we still don’t understand. the problem with old prophetic writings is that they are usually obscure or partially destroyed, or (list here a hundred other reasons) they don’t make sense, to us. nonetheless, they do talk about us, now, in this terribly strenuous and dangerous time. did i mention i’m not a great believer in coincidence?
Imagine that, obarry our muslim president running jihad on America and its peoples. This should not surprise anyone because we know so little about obarry`s past and he sure keeps his past locked down tight., Obarry has left military personal to be court martial-ed and go to jail and has destroyed other peoples lives. The little we do know about obarry is one big lie
This is the man whose main responsibility – in this administration of enemies of America, of Israel, and of the West – is to make sure that Iran will have the nukes needed for the second holocaust.
We are looking straight into the eyes of evil.
Let’s pray.
“And last month the king of Jordan said in a Washington Post interview that nobody could depend on America any more.”
A powerful and very true statement. America’s allies are betrayed and so are Americans. The American people CANNOT depend any more on our government to protect the U.S. from America’s many enemies. Our allies know they are abandoned and so do Americans.
Obama made a special point of inviting his BIG favorites,
the Muslim Brotherhood, to his speech in Cairo. Behind the scenes, America worked to oust U.S. ALLY, moderate Mubarak and bring to power the Muslim Brotherhood whose stated goal is global Islamic conquest and the DESTRUCTION of civilization.
28 Jan 2011. The Telegraph: Egypt protests: America’s secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising. The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph
Here’s a link to the Telegraph’s report.
And here’s the smoking gun document:
“Here is the secret document sent from the US Embassy in Cairo to Washington disclosing the extent of American support for the protesters behind the Egypt uprising.”
(from the Telegraph)
UK DAILY MAIL: 7,000 held in Libya’s new reign of fear and torture.
UN raises concerns of torture and ill-treatment. Many held simply because they have darker skin. Thousands of people including women and children are being held illegally and tortured by rebels who helped oust Colonel Gaddafi. The UN said Tawergas are ‘reported to have been targeted in revenge killings, or taken by armed men from their homes, checkpoints and hospitals and some allegedly later abused or executed in detention’. (Daily Mail).
These are the monsters brought to power by US/NATO who waged war for months for these savages. The International Criminal Court will NEVER bring them to justice. Is there now no one to protect the world’s innocents?
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I listened very carefully for clues on Netanyahu’s TV appearances, last time he visited the US. I couldn’t sense any kind of dissatisfaction with the Obama administration. He seemed quite contend with the situation.
And the vast majority of Jews in the US support the Obama administration very energetically. I kinda give more weight to what Jews think about the relationship with Israel than what I might think. If it’s OK for them, then it’s OK for me. So for know I’m not gonna get riled up.
Netanyahu content with the situationa?! You obviously haven’t been paying attention in the last 3 years in spite of watching his TV appearances. Of course, he’s not going to shout it from the roof tops, but it came as close to that as possible within diplomatic boundaries. And Obama did actually almost shout from the roof tops his dislike for Netanyahu.
The majority of American Jews will indeed vote for the democrats no matter what, but Israeli Jews don’t see a friend in Obama.
PM Netanyahu has done everything short of leading a marching band down Fifth Avenue to warn Americans about the Iran bomb and the position in which it has put (most proximately but by no means alone) Israel. Dan Gillerman, too, has minced nor wasted no words on the topic.
Obama had the golden chance to rescue the entire situation, not to mention the region, when the Iranian people rose against the mullahs. At one point, Ahmadi Nejad had split for the Kremlin, not to return until his killers had regained the upper hand. The situation for a time was so fluid that even a word from Obama about freedom or liberty or human dignity might have saved the world from whatever it is facing now.
But no word came. Oh yes, later, when it clearly would do no harm to the totalitarian project, a few desultory remarks he managed to mutter.
Perhaps, I am a conspiracy nut but I think someone in this adminstration sold out the CIA in atonement for having to put Bin Laden under the bus.
Prof. Rubin wrote “Obama administration objectives and the U.S. national interest are not consistent”.
The rest is commentary.
Will the voters take note in November?
–pray they do. Obama II is Pandora’s box not opened but smashed to smithereens.
Jerimiah Wright would be proud.
What I cannot understand, and maybe someone can explain it to me, is how the general idea is that Obama and his regime do not know what they are doing in all this. Obama does not know the threat that is being unleashed against Israel? Does not know now, and did not know from the beginning of the “Arab Spring” that the Islamists that were being supported and in Libya’s case, armed and directed, would then take the power for themselves? That the same Islamists would then use every available resource to wage war any way they could against the hated Jews of Israel?
Obama’s original Chief Of Staff was Rahm Emanuel. Rahm is the son of Benjamin M. Emanuel, a Jerusalem-born former member of Irgun. I am sure he has no idea on the workings of the Middle East, and how they will impact Israel.
The problem is much worse than incompetence or ignorance. The problem is that Obama & Co. know exactly what they are doing, and what the big picture ramifications will be. They know them to be atrocious, and are doing them anyway, all the time lying and deceiving those who cannot see past the endless stream of lies as to WHY.
Rahm Emanuel and his connections to Israel and Israeli fighters are what indemnified the campaign against the Wright/Nation of Islam connection. Many of us who knew from Obama’s lifetime associations what he was, and thus worried about everything else about him, did not worry about the USA/Israel alliance on the account of Rahm and several other seemingly-staunch Israel supporters in the inner circle.
Too late we learn, in the wake of the BP ‘accident’ in the Gulf of Mexico, that Rahm had been living, since the Clinton years, in BP-paid-for apartments, that BP was run by an inner circle of prime NWO-ites, and that Rahm’s regard for the state of Israel was likely akin to that of Soros and the NWO Rothschild branch.
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