That’s when the fun really starts. President Barack Obama is going to face a challenge he is incapable of meeting, since he doesn’t even understand what’s going on. He’s like a man who has been told that a ferocious lion is really a playful kitten and then tries to feed it by hand.
Or, to switch metaphors in the middle of a stream of thought, perhaps Dr. Frankenstein is a more apt image:
“When younger,” said he, “I believed myself destined for some great enterprise. … I could not rank myself with the herd of common projectors. But this thought, which supported me in the commencement of my career, now serves only to plunge me lower in the dust. All my speculations and hopes are as nothing; and, like the archangel who aspired to omnipotence, I am chained in an eternal hell.” — Mary Shelley, Frankenstein
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For the purposes of this election, Egypt has been divided into three sections, and each section will have a second round. I predict the moderates will fail to work together, and that the Islamists will thus end up getting an even higher proportion of the seats in parliament.
The Wall Street Journal correspondent is saying that the Salafists will push the Brotherhood further to the “right,” and that’s a very sensible point. Why should the Brotherhood even pretend to be moderate when the people have spoken and they want Sharia with cherries on top?
So the Islamists won and the election was fair. Should we feel good that democracy has functioned and that the people are getting what they want?
Or should we feel bad that the people want a repressive dictatorship, the repression of women, the suppression of Christians, conflict with Israel, hatred of the West, and the freezing of Egyptian society into a straitjacket that can only lead to continued poverty and increasing suffering?
As the vote count becomes clearer, I’ll be refining my analysis, but now we know: this is what (Egyptian) democracy looks like.
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(Also read Michael Totten: “Watch Out.”)
Have you considered the effect of a desire for security? I understand that tribalism is the dominant force in Egypt. Tribalism and a modern economic and democratic system exist in different universes. So, for your average Egyptian, the immediate necessity is law and order and security: definitely NOT change!
Now, Goldman argues that starvation is looming over the Nile. Well, for Egyptians, this provides even more reason to vote for the parties supporting Islam.
However triumphant the Brotherhood and the Salafists, they will still have to deal with a shortfall in foreign currency needed to buy food, widespread illiteracy (roughly 35% of adult males, 45% of adult females), tourists too fearful to come, and businessmen wary of investing. Israel must prepare for increasing instability along its southern border, but in the end Egypt is the loser. If they make open moves against Israel, even Obama will have no choice but to cut them off.
Exactly. How would you like a Salafist-in-your-face?
So the first thing the Salafists and MB will do is create a crisis, to not let go to waste, most probably by attacking Israel in some form or other and this will take the peoples’ minds off their empty stomachs.
Can’t help it but think that current US foreign policy in helping create the mess is to permit the entry of the extremist Muslims elements against the Israelis.
They will deal with by ramping up tensions with Israel, perhaps with the Copts too…distraction.
“Now, Goldman argues that starvation is looming over the Nile. Well, for Egyptians, this provides even more reason to vote for the parties supporting Islam.”
Please explain how a putting radical Islamists in power to implement a brutal regime will help feed starving Egyptians?
No one knows if the elections were fair and many of the secular/civil protesters boycotted the elections. How many is unknown but the election results will be accepted by some, challenged by others and ignored by some.
If the MB having such support is accurate, it’s not really a surprise that an Islamic country would shoot itself in the foot since that seems to be their specialty. Islam has never connected the dots between itself and failure but why should it since such an awareness would be tantamount to suicide? At least it’s not dumb enough to make a suicide pact like Americans have.
The fact that the mid east will become a shaira,7th century whacked out muzzzie hell hole is hardly news.
Neither is it news that Europe is following in their foots steps.Soon we will see suicide bomber hideout/mosques on every corner and muzzies demanding more and more and more until there are shaira law enclaves in most every part of merry ol’ England.It will happen in the rest of Europe as well.
The big question is what about here?
Will our penchant for mulitculturalism which never works,open borders allowing third worlders who reproduce like maggots giving them huge majorities in no time at all remain? Or will we see the light.
Think about it.
Then think about the next election and just how important it realy is.
So, any guesses as to the perimeter of the Koranic Curtain by Election Day 2012?
The good part is that Obama, who realistically had nothing to do with the Arab Spring, can be blamed for every advance of Islamists in N. Africa. Obama couldn’t win with Libya and I still have no idea why we got involved: it was one mental case or a council of mental cases either way you split it though bombs are expensive. I’m sure the Libyan rebels will show their appreciation by denouncing the West.
I hope Presidential GOP candidates are taking note of Obama’s comments about the MB because it’s just a short hop from there to Hamas and then whip out the Hamas founding charter which is about as crazy and hateful a document as you’ll ever read. I’m surprised it’s online. And the U.S. gives them money? Why?
They don’t have to go as “far” as Hamas (a wing of the Muslim Brotherhood according to their own charter). The Egyptian MB has its own lovely collection of insanities, as well as anti-Western, anti-American and genocidally anti-Jewish expressions in writing and in speech. The fact these and other documnets are rarely featured in any of the mass media outlets, except the Glenn Beck program (which is not where I got them, before everyone jupms on me for mentioning the name), just demonstrates the state of the mass media today.
US/NATO Making the world safer for Muslim terrorists:
Admiral James Stavridis, NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, and the commander of the U.S. European Command told the U.S. Senate
that Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah fighters are among the Libyan rebels
currently receiving support from the US and its NATO allies. This was
confirmed by one of the Libyan rebel officers, Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, who leads one of the Al-Qaeda units.
(US Aid to Israel’s Enemies, Oct 13th, 2011, frontpagemag)
U.S/NATO joined with Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah terrorists to wage relentless war for months. Bombing Libya back to the stone age.
Barbaric Al Qaeda and Hezbollah who MURDER our troops in Iraq were considered desirable for placing in power in Libya. US/NATO have great guilt in making the world a far more dangerous place.
President Obama cited the new military doctrine of “Responsibility to Protect” as a justification for bombing Libya. The new military doctrine is extremely frightening for the world’s innocents.
Blacks were SAFE under Gaddafi and did not live under a reign of terror !
UK DAILY MAIL
7,000 held in Libya’s new reign of fear and torture
UN raises concerns of torture and ill-treatment
Many held simply because they have darker skin
By Tom Leonard
24th November 2011
Thousands of people including women and children are being held illegally and tortured by rebels who helped oust Colonel Gaddafi, according to a UN report.
Around 7,000, many of them foreigners, are behind bars in private prisons and makeshift detention centres.
The report by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon will be embarrassing for Britain and other governments which supported the overthrow of the Gaddafi regime despite concerns about who would take power in their place.
As an example of the atrocities committed by the rebels, the report highlighted the town of Tawerga, whose inhabitants have been accused of siding with Gaddafi during the civil war.
The UN said Tawergas are ‘reported to have been targeted in revenge killings, or taken by armed men from their homes, checkpoints and hospitals and some allegedly later abused or executed in detention’.
The UN also warned that a vast arsenal of surface-to-air missiles, known as Manpads, had been accumulated in Libya, further worsening the security situation there.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2065570/7-000-held-Libyas-new-reign-fear-torture.html
“And the U.S. gives them money? Why?” Because the late Stanley Ann Dunham Obama et al worked for USAID; with the sure knowledge that brib..buy..Helping others made them our friends?
So, we borrow money from China to give it to Egypt to invade Israel who needs our aid with money borrowed from China in order to provide bailout to EU with…Oh my head aches.
Or, we keep the money and bail out the US of A? Nah, too simple by half.
I wonder just how long, before the islamist (BH) start destroying the Arts,Tombs,Pyramids and what ever these nuts can find. I guess muslims are idiots and like to live in the 8th century. Remember Afgan, and what those illiterates did to the Buddha statues. To bad the Black Plague doesn’t strike again, then pray to there so called allah.
According to an Egyptian newpaper, a Salafi fundamentalist poltical candidate confided to a civil candidate that he doesn’t want tourism in Egypt – they are against bikinis and beer. They want “cultural” tourism which is about 10% of the total.
The MB in Parliament will scare off investors and tourism. What does the MB care? Muslim countries are famous for cutting off their nose to spite their face and the idea of Orwell’s boot stamping on your face forever is considered a mark of pride with Islam so stamp away – forever.
Duh! It was the MB wot did a nose job on the Sphinx!
“should we feel bad that the people want a repressive dictatorship, the repression of women, the suppression of Christians, conflict with Israel, hatred of the West, and the freezing of Egyptian society into a straitjacket that can only lead to continue poverty and increasing suffering?”
Do we really know about the “straitjacket” part? As long as the democratic activists can organize street demonstrations there will always be a nucleus of opposition for people to turn to.
Democrat activists won’t be able to organize street demonstrations for long after the Muslim Brotherhood government gets itself organized. The MB figures it has orders from Allah to take power and keep it.
Wrong: people in Egypt who protest in the streets don’t ask permission.
The interesting thing here as regards the MB being seen as responsible for gov’t policies is this: if the MB cannot address the economic concerns of the Egyptian people they themselves will be in trouble. The MB already has half a foot in boiling water merely by scaring off foreign money. Since the revolution was about economics and freedom and not religion, the MB may find that holding onto worthless real estate is a losing proposition and sink back into the shadows in favour of forces that will actually address jobs and not try and have people eat Korans and subversive idiocy against the West and Israel which I’ve heard doesn’t pay very well.
Don’t you worry, there’s always the Zionist entity to incite against and blame for everything, and one can always employ the secret police. True, that won’t work forever, but it did give the previous regime around 50 years. 50 years of the MB would destroy Egypt. Oh, well.
Did you mean eat Koreans?
Even a casual observer of the Middle East over the last few years should not been too surprised at this outcome. One doesn’t need to know a lot about Egypt or Islam to have been expecting this outcome. One only needs to read even the whitewashed accounts of the life Islam delivers to the people living in the hell it creates to have seen this coming. The mere act of casting a vote by a people barraged with hate for everything Western and everything non-Muslim from the time they are born cannot in any way be expected, by rational people, to bring forth anything resembling a liberal democracy.
Refer to Matthew 7:16. “By their fruits you will know them. Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes or figs from thistles?”
In the end it comes down not to the act of voting but the values of the people doing the voting.
You’re wrong: casual observers of the middle east don’t know anything about the issues involved. Even writers in the West who supposedly specialize in such matters often do so from outside the polities they write about and also get it wrong.
Many people nowadays are in love with the idea that a keyboard plus sheer intellect and judgement equals accuracy and it doesn’t. I can’t tell you how many times someone has said to me they predicted what would happen in Egypt and when I pressed them to tell me what the current situation is they couldn’t. Predicting things one cannot describe other than throwing the old Iran one-vote-one-time blanket over the entire region is childish not nuanced.
It really did not take a genius level intellect to predict an Islamist take over in Egypt. Islam everywhere has been blatantly growing more extreme by the day and more bold in its advocacy of extremism.
I didn’t mean to criticize Dr. Rubin, he was, after all, only surprised at the magnitude of the Islamic take over not that it occurred.
The question that advocates of the “Arab Spring” have never answered is: “What evidence is there that a Nation in which more than 80% of its population blindly follows the insane teachings of a seventh century mad man would suddenly, miraculously, vote against those teachings which have been drilled into them since birth, and instead vote in a way pleasing to Western Elites?”
Until that question is answered no intellectually honest person should be surprised at an Islamic take over.
It doesn’t take an extraodinarily high intelligence or a “deep understanding” of Islam. It takes only a minimal ability to observe events and a willingness to abandon wishful thinking and and face reality.
Great post Chuck.
Like you said you don’t have to be a Harvard or Columbia grad to figure out that brainwashed tools with birth rates of 4.8 children per family will soon take over wherever they go. And then they quickly install whatever 7th century fable programmed into their pea sized brains.
If it’s this easy for us to figure out why can’t our elected fools get there as well.
Since there has been no Islamist takeover of Egypt your comment, that has not one hint of irony, is amusing to say the least.
I guess genius is a requirement after all; or at least basic reading skills.
Mary, I didn’t intend any irony. I was of the opinion that such was your intent. I stand by my my assertion that to understand the “Arab Spring” no more than average intellect is required, that is, if it is accompanied by honesty about fourteen centuries of Islamic history.
A genius intellect that refuses to believe what is there for all to see is worthless.
The initial win of the MB was a foregone conclusion as soon as the military agreed to excessively early elections; only the MB and Salafis were relatively free to politically organize in the pre-internet days.
So these are growing pains. But I don’t think Egyptians will tolerate Taliban or mullah rule because the democrats are the ones who took the lead in the Revolution and will still be able to create motivated mobs in the streets.
We Americans can encourage favorable domestic evolution in Egypt by discouraging the temptation of Egyptians to displace their problems by foreign adventures. President Obama, for all his policies that encourage Israel-hatred, nonetheless believes in arming Israel to the teeth and that should help a bit. Yet Egypt may seek adventure elsewhere, as Nasser did in Yemen in the 1960s.
Mr. Rubin, one can’t keep thinking in terms of control. You don’t control another democracy, any more than the U.S. controlled France and Britain after WWII. Nor does one engage in excessive tutelage, lest one end up with another Pakistan. Leaders and people have to learn to be responsible to each other as well as being good international citizens.
Think about encouraging the development of shared values leading to friendship instead. Yeah, this goes against the strict dictum, “nations have no permanent friends, only permanent interests” yet the U.S. hasn’t had a war with Canada for over 150 years, nor does it station troops at the border. Sometimes the friendship thing works.
Solomon,
With respect,
you’re making the same mistake in implying that Egypt is a “Democracy” simply because they had a vote as was done in Gaza. This was exactly what was said about Gaza having “become a Democracy” and voted in Hamas. I still remember phenomenally imbecilic columns by the likes of Tom Friedman telling us all that “the new found responsibility of having to pick up the garbage will, in short time, turn Hamas into a shining example of Arab Democracy — I mean it was such a stupid thing to say that I cringed and I can’t stand T.F. — and then because he is looked up to by newsmen who know even less than this “expert,” his “becoming tamed by the realities of governance” theme was echoed everywhere. It was incredible.
Why, pray tell, would Hamas even bother to even think that they even needed to pick up the garbage in the first place? If someone didn’t like having to haul away their own garbage, or arrange a neighborhood solution, they could simply be shot, and indeed, (pause, safety off, click) pow: they were.
Also, in a fitting piece of irony, every Western journalist was driven out of Gaza in a short period — including the ones who claimed that they were there “to help you Palestinians put out your story” — which was really all of them — forget about the stunning breach of “journalistic ethics” they effectively copped up to (and no, I’m not talking about when they had a gun to their head, I’m talking about later when they were safe in London and could write what they wanted). Well, either driven out or first kidnapped, forced to “convert” to Islam, and then forced to keep quiet about it by their fellow Palestinian-loving journalists. (where are the books detailing the ordeals of their kidnappings?) Conveniently their journalistic colleagues forgot all of this very quickly.
But today, all but the most idiotic of the MSM who had initially termed Gaza a Democracy has come to realize that this was a very poor move for all involved and it is by no means a “democracy.” Of even more interest is that this realization has now come to include the Gaza Palestinians themselves.
And yet, the same term is being used for the same situation in a country with the same lack of any democratic institutions. Sigh.
I guarantee you Tom Friedman comes out with an op-ed saying that because this now super-Islamist Egyptian government is facing the looming catastrophe of mass starvation among the people, that and picking up the trash will force them to become the Arab world’s first shining example of a true democracy. And yet, what’s stopping them from allowing starvation? It happens in African countries with appalling regularity.
There’s a big difference between picking up the garbage of 1.6 million people who receive the highest foreign aid per person of any entity in the world and 85 million people in Egypt. The MB will have to produce or they will be out.
so the Islamists won and the election was fair. Should we feel good that democracy has functioned and that the people are getting what they want?
Or should we feel bad that the people want a repressive dictatorship, the repression of women, the suppression of Christians,
To echo Frumious Falafel, somewhat: what the people wanted was religious security. Thinking also back to “Liberal Fascism” by Jonah Goldberg, a certain amount of reaction against the decadence of Western culture must also factor in. That the MB will be repressive and unable (or even unwilling) to provide the basic essentials of modern life will not be important to most Egyptian voters until somewhat later. Like U.S. voters, Egyptian voters see what they want to see.
The Islamists will quickly bring stability and order to Egypt, with or without an alliance with the Egyptian military. They will arrest, expel, kill, or drive underground any serious non Islamist opposition while at the same time receiving foreign Islamist as well as US and EU financial aid to revive Egypt’s moribund economy.
Once the Islamists have firmly cemented their hold on domestic power they will quickly try to regain Egypt’s leadership role in the Arab and Islamist world.
Then the “fun” will start.
I agree, the Europeans and the US will most certainly give money to the MB, helping it to maintain itself in power.
I hope we don’t give food and money blindly. We’ve made that mistake so many times…
I think you have the most accurate future scenario of the future of Egypt, but I also think the tourist trade will never recover to its former levels, and the MB will be tempted to blow up the monuments as they are not of islamic origin, do not add anything to islamic culture, etc. etc. etc.
That’s nonsense.
Yeah?
It sounds like Bam – Bam – Bamiyan!
Professor Carrie Wickham said that the Muslim Brotherhood is moderate. Former President Jimmy Carter predicted that the MB would only get 15% of the vote. Thomas von Friedmann said that the Arab Spring offers Israel the opportunity for bold moves. Why should I believe you over these experts?
Did anyone really expect anything different? These 7th century throwbacks do not understand anything except islamic totalitarian power. I don’t know what we were “saving” them from; but I’m sure the people we’ve truly hurt is the 10% of the Egyptian population that is Christian.
I am not at all surprised by the initial election results. I expected in February that the MB would dominate. I also said the Egyptian army would play a pivotal role in the transformation of Egypt. I am going to be interested to watch how that dynamic plays out. I am expecting the officers are going to find retirement to other locales, while taking along their skimmed off booty, an attractive option. The noncoms and the cannon fodder will have to evolve as best they can.
One thing is likely in all of this, the more poorly organized “liberal” groups are destined to weakness as are the Coptics. We shall see how much violence erupts as the minority forces realize the dimness of their prospects and attempt to preserve what little they will be left with politically and economically.
Arab spring. Yup, it’s true if your a Muslim and associated with the MB. For the rest, enjoy the crumbs in hell.
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Why is anyone surprised? “Oh, it’s a new glorious day for change and freedom. The young people will begin a new glorious era of liberty.” Enter Muslim Brotherhood: “not so fast transgressor!” They’re screwed
We knew from the start of the Muslim Winter how this would unfold. I agree with Mike, “Why is anyone surprised?” They’re screwed, we’re screwed.
The Obama foreign policy of enabling the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists in the Middle East is the biggest strategic blunder by the West since the 1500′s. Think Iran an order of magnitude bigger. If idiot Obama has done nothing else he had outdone Carter is undermining the West. Obama is a US internal enemy.
Israel is now nearly completely surrounded by the wolves (no offense meant for the noble animal.)
The world is getting dark.
We must win in 2012 and still we will have a very hard time ahead.
Let us pray.
Time for the coptic christians to organize themselves and top prepare for evacuation. They are leaving one way or another, and soon.
NEVER forget the American betrayal of U.S. ally, moderate Mubarak. Obama made a special point of inviting his BIG favorites, the Muslim Brotherhood, to his speech in Cairo. Behind the scenes, America worked to oust moderate Mubarak and bring to power the Muslim Brotherhood whose stated goal is global Islamic conquest and the DESTRUCTION of civilization.
28 Jan 2011. The Telegraph: Egypt protests: America’s secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising.
The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian
uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned. End of quote.
America’s allies must be anxiously wondering if they will be betrayed next. U.S. and Israel: Don’t trust the DECEITFUL campaign speeches of Obama! Israel’s Jews must NOT be annihilated by multiple Arab armies and the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, et al.
Mubarak a moderate? I think not Linda. Change was inevitable and although the attempt to nurture a reasonable relationship with the new (and entirely predictable) leaders of Egypt will most likely fail, that doesn’t mean that the US shouldn’t have tried. True to attempt was clumsy and ineffective but it had to be made.
Moderate no, but he was an ally. Why anyone would ally with us now is a mystery.
Mubarek was moderate in his treatment of the protest- very unusual for Middle East repressive state- He could have cracked down with FORCE, deadly force and we would’ve seen a Tianmen Square type action- people mowed over by tanks! Mubarek loved his people whatever else he was, he allowed this protest to happen, perhaps he trusted a better regime would replace him. I have no love for the man, but he kept his word to us and we did not reciprocate in kind. He kept his word on Israel, and kept his people in check. Mubarek could easily have gone down the ASSAD/Syria road and just killed his own people to keep power.
That Egypt is being IslamoNazified is not a surprise to anyone who is not a perpetual Pollyanna hope and change type wishful thinker.
“The Salafists — people who are even more radical than the Muslim Brotherhood — came in second. That they did that well is a surprise. That they did that well without bumping the Brotherhood down a notch is really shocking.”
No, say it ain’t so. You mean the guy from Google and all those other young useful idiots that threw Mubarak out were all wrong? Eat it, all of you Muslims and liberals out there who really thought it would be any different. This is going to be Iran on steroids and now, after all those years of government aid and kickbacks and bribes the US paid to keep Egypt in the pro-western camp, ALL OF IT was for nothing because people like Obama and Clinton just had to throw out of power the only dictator that actually liked and helped us. Now you’re going to get both Egypt AND Libya, bordering countries, to be a veritable playpen for every Jihadist and radical Islamist terrorist out there, especially al Qaeda. I really, really, hope that somebody in the media will call out both Obama AND Clinton on this (not that they will). This is what you get when you have idiots and children running our foreign policy.
At least the guy from Google doesn’t have to look up things on Google before declaring Egypt the next Iran, and now new and improved and on steroids.
Poof! SCAF has disappeared.
Well Mary, I seem to remember that same Google guy tried to speak at a huge rally in Cairo after Mubarak was overthrown and he literally had to run away because the crowd (probably filled with Muslim Brotherhood sympathizers) literally threw him off the stage. Yep, they sure were open minded just a few months ago and I’m sure they’re going to be even more so in the next few months. Face it, a democratic republic is an impossibility in most of the Muslim world. Libya right now has armed militias battling for power to see what tribe will run the country. Hamas isn’t about to give up power to anybody and Hezbollah pretty much runs Lebanon. Oh, and Syria certainly is a shining example of democracy, right? The recent elections in Algeria put the Islamists in power, so things are not going to get much better there if you’re expecting a more open and democratic government. Most of the Muslim world in the Middle East is either run by dictators, mullahs, monarchs, or madmen (like Gaddafi). Not that much of a good track record, right? Even Iraq may fall apart once we pull out at the end of the year. We’ll see. And where did all those pro-western intellectuals go in Egypt? Guess there just wasn’t that many of them. Egypt is going the way of Iran. Maybe not a complete theocracy, but close to it.
And if you don’t believe anything I’ve just said, Google it. I’m sure the Google guy will back me up.
And the head of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party was thrown out of, not just a stage in Tahrir Square, but the square itself and only 10 days ago.
No one knows which way Egypt will go because it is in unchartered waters. The Muslim Brotherhood used to be the professional againsters and in real terms didn’t have to produce anything. Now they are going to have to show that they can govern and govern within a context of no separation between church and state, a tall task given the remarkable coincidence of failure of governance and lack of cultural energy within Islam.
Egypt is not Iran. Egypt doesn’t have oil and needs the good will of the West to survive. The army is still in play and has stated they are not going anywhere. The army still controls the country and will for the foreseeable future. Maybe Egypt will get smart and go the way of successful Malaysia, another very conservative country, or collapse into a giant Gaza.
The fact the MB wants to resort to and subsidize a labor intensive economy in order to put people to work does not bode well for Egypt as the next center of ICT products.
Success is an elusive thing: America is progressive but those very progressive tendencies guarantees the extinction of the culture that created that culture, extinction by immigration from the Third World. Progressive as we are, we blanch at the idea of being called racists and so will commit suicide to prove we’re not.
The Egyptians would simply kick out illegals if it threatened their national identity and they have the example of the British Mandate to think about. Where’s Palestine? The answer is nowhere. Where will the culture of American Graffiti and yo-yo’s be in 100 years, 200 years? The answer is nowhere.
In its place America will have Muslims and Hispanics and other professional losers on the global and national stage all fighting for a golden goose they themselves killed because, in a spate of pride and overweening arrogance, they denied it existed in the first place while flocking to the thing that didn’t exist, relegating American Exceptionalism to a racist dream, despite the clear proof of the global cultural hegemony of the American way.
And to think it all will happen because of a monstrous form of politeness called Political Correctness, a giant excuse factory for failure. The greatest culture in the history of the planet done away with by an aversion to calling a thing what it is despite copper age cultures around the world and even inside America. Incredible.
Yeah, everybody’s equal, Muslims don’t commit terrorist acts compared to Swedish people, black Americans don’t commit mountains of crime compared to white folks, airport screeners assault nuns to prove how equal the whole world is. Cultural suicide, that’s all it is.
I can understand Why Hussein Obama and Hillary are surprised.
but I don’t understand why Mr Rubin was expecting differed result. Since the abolition of the Caliphate by The Turks, the rest of the Islamic world is trying to fill the void. Even Turkey’s Erdoğan is dreaming about it. Unfortunately the morons in the WH and Brussels will help The brotherhood to take total control of Egypt. When it happens watch the fireworks in the Sinai.
Egyptian democracy looks like American democracy. Moslem Brotherhood leadership on both sides of the Atlantic.
The Sauds have far more influence in D.C. than the MB. Just think of how many tsorres would have been avoided had the U.S. military undertaken regime change in Arabia in 2001, shutting off the flow of oil-fueled hatred. Yet that course was never considered; instead we removed the irritant of U.S. forces in the KSA by moving them into Iraq.
It’s all about the constitution. The US should long ago have made it perfectly clear that even the slightest mention of religion in the new constitution would lead to severe consequences.
Remember the US actually wrote the Japanese constitution. It’s the only reason Japan were able to get out of the dark ages.
Constitutions do not get made by means of democracy. That is the paradox that everybody should understand. They get made by all means possible. It’s a fight to the death with no rules.
What year is it?
Has Rachel gone nuts? Has her memory gone AWOL? Taken a vacation? Not entirely.
Of course, it’s 2011. I can read a calendar.
In Rachel’s world, though, these times remind her of another time, say, circa 1936; Those glory years when Japan and Germany were getting ready to rule the world. When the Soviet Union wanted to get in on the killing; to capture land and oil. When half of the United States was filled with asses who saw the rest of the world through isolationist colored glasses.
Are these similar times that try men’s souls?
You can be your life on it.
As you know, the “soul” phrase was the opening line in a series of pamphlets Thomas Paine began in Dec. of 1776, titled, “The American Crisis.” Paine called the miscreant colonists whose loyalties were to Britain, “stubborn, stupid and worthless.”
Now, we have an Obamanation of a President, a consummate traitor, who’s led the country down the path of ruin. And I’d say 45% of Americans are stupid, stubborn and worthless; no, it’s worse than that. I think there’s a good percentage of Americans who couldn’t care less if this country went down the drain. They’ve gotten use to drinking Obama’s flavor of the month club Kook-Aid, and their minds are mush.
And the man who lives in the White House does make a mean glass of the colored drink. As far as Obama is concerned, the last three years of his Presidency weren’t a series of mistakes since that cold day in January of 2009 when Bama lied through his teeth, and promised things with the honesty of a used car dealer.
To Obamabits, the last three years have been a series of grand successes. Obama’s every move was intended to destroy capitalism; to bankrupt our nation; to gradually weaken our strategic ability to defend ourselves; in short, Obama’s mission was to destroy this nation. And he is well on his way to succeeding.
ObamaActions have strengthened our enemies and weakened our allies.
But most on Pajamas Media sense the truth of what I say even if they’re loathe to admit things have gotten so bad. Folks, we’re on the edge of the cliff of national annihilation. Like a drug dealer, Obama and his corrupt-o-trons are the pushers.
Now for the bad news.
World terrorism. Followers of Islam. Communist counties the world over. And the ones who aren’t either but whose governments and people have gone nuts in the tradition of Neville Chamberlain and America’s Chuck A. Lindburgh have congealed into an ugly mass that’s formed a world in which America will have to once again defend itself a la the 1940′s.
The criminal way Obama has set the stage for this makes my statement a 99% surety.
If America doesn’t want to live under Shariah Law, the U.S. is going to have to fight. And not just to stop the spread of Shariah law. And not just in the figurative sense.
The worse news Rachel has been leading up to is that sooner rather than later America is going to have to fight for its life.
Interested in odds?
By 2015, chances are 70% to the bad that Israel will have been vaporized.
By 2016, chances are 60/40 that America will have been hit by weapons of mass destruction in New York. My home town of Sea Cliff will be no more.
If you think today’s big story is the islamization of Egypt, you’ve got another think coming. Saddle up, America. Lock and load. September 1, 1939 is past.
If we don’t vote Obama out, we don’t have a prayer.
One day you’ll hear on Fox News a lot of the stuff I write right here. By then, though, it’ll be an itsi bitsi late. News organizations left will continue their lying. The honest ones are afraid to scare the masses.
By the time, the truth is squeezed out of places like Fox, The fat woman will be on her third verse. Like she did for the Texas Rangers Oct. 27, last, in the 9th inning of game 6, her throaty tones will have sounded for all to hear the death knolls that signal somebody somewhere building a monument to freedom. The kind of monuments you see in grave yards.
If the unwashed Americans clinging to their weapons, and Bible are correct, there is no weapon that will destroy Israel. There is a simi-invasion to come.
America has earned her destruction along with every other country in the world sold out to the world system, and it’s false god.
Most that post here, already knew the moon god worshipers were going to win big in Egypt. They are winning big in Libya, Syria, Iraq, and Afganistan too. It is almost as if America has been helping the Muslim Brotherhood bring back what Brition destroyed in WW1. Can it be?
And she’s back….
It was just a matter of time I suppose, but the old Rachel Peepers, self-styled prophetess, has returned with another collection of predictions to chill our souls and prove her incredible insight. New this time around: she’s referring to herself in the third person.
PLONK!
Obama and Hillary Clinton at the State Department have had many, many visits with the Muslim Brotherhood. The State Department financed, in full, a trip to several countries in the Middle East for the Ground Zero Mosque imam to raise money to complete the mosque. Hillary Clinton’s personal aid has family members in the Muslim Sisterhood, perhaps Brotherhood as well. Do you actually believe that Obama has nothing to do with the events of the middle east? He and Soros have been funding revolutions from the get go, both here and abroad. It’s what they do. It began in Kenya – when he raised a very large sum of money for his cousin Odinga who wanted to rule the country (85% Christian at the time) under Sharia law. When Odinga lost Obama (who can be seen on video doing this) called for Odinga’s followers to rise up. They did – killing and burning Christians and causing thousands to flee to refugee camps. The country is now officially Muslim. Nice job, Obama.
Allahpundit at Hot Air has it right about the Salafis. What he doesn’t mention is that they are Wahhabis, something brought back by migrant workers from the Gulf where Saudi Arabia is controlled by Wahhabi thought.
Kuwait has sent 114 million dollars to Islamist groups this year, the largest foreign aid to political groups within Egypt. To put it mildly, Wahhabis are nuts, the conservatives of conservatives; think 9/11 hijackers and bin Laden. Qatar also sent some 35 million. Oil may have bought the election in Egypt.
Well, again Mr. R. falls into his Marxist trap, believing that events can be managed. I would have thought the neocon foolishness would have worn out is welcome, but apparently not with the ideologues, believe that by keep offering failed solutions you can keep some skin in the game, while being paid.
Actually, it is great news: the Brotherhood and the Salafists in competition. I am hoping for a gingham dog and calico cat scenario where they perform the ‘friendly office’ for each other.
Another very good thing is that it will show once and for all what Islam is all about and how really lame Egypt is. If it blows, they all will at some point, and trying to keep the ‘Rubin Lid’ on the situation is no solution.
Further, Egypt can’t feed itself, and the West might be forced to cut off all aid. That would be wonderful because it would redirect money to the feeding of the place away from worse mischief.
This demonstration effect might convince the West that no matter how many Angry Muslims you might have, unless you help them, they just set and fester.
After many centuries staying down as the underdog, the evil prince of Islam
is being reactivated to unify the Islamic Arabs first, and the non-Arab Muslims later, for the express goal of the destruction of Israel as holy religious duty.
The rulers of the Arab Muslim countries until now have been at best realists
and hedonists(like Sadat or king Hussein) or megalomaniac militarists
(from Kadhafi to Saddam), and all of them corrupt.
With the advent of ayatollah Khomeini, we have seen the new kind of true Islamic leader, cumulating both religious and political functions to serve
his rabidly fanatical hatred of Israel, to the detriment of any other duty
as a responsible leader.
Sadat’s end was the shape of things to come for any Arab/Muslim ruler
who wants to tolerate Israel.
What is happening now is the beginning of a time of extreme peril(comparable to
or worse than Hitler’s rise)for Israel and the world.
From the Atlantic to the Persian Gulf, the Islamic dark cloak of evil is ruling over all the Arab states, whether their governments are overthrown
or still in place, since all political power must be submitted to the imams, ayatollahs, mullahs, or whatever names these bloodthirsty sub-beasts call themselves.
And for those who still hope in “moderate Islamists”, let them just remember
poor Ayatollah Shariat Mazari of Iran who was murdered by Khomeini in 1986,
for being too moderate, after having saved Khomeini’s life under the Shah.
Already Russia and China are making their plans to support the replacement for
Bashar. The Vladian ships sailing for Syria are not going to Assad’s rescue, but for safeguarding just Russ’ interests however the events turn.
Nevertheless, the good thing is that this evil enterprise for the erasing of Israel will be its own doom. The Arab countries, immediate neighbours of Israel will be utterly destroyed once they mass for onslaught.
Counterclockwise around Israel are : Egypt, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Oman, the Gulf states, Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon(Hezbollah), Gaza(Hamas), marked for early destruction once they move against the Jewish State.
Remember That GOD IS THE FRIEND OF Abraham Who Is Israel’s Father.
I think that it is time the delusion being sold by Mr. Obama regarding the ‘Arab Spring’ and other misleading ideas be set aside in the interest of facing reality.
We are watching a long term plan begun under President Carter (unintentionally) and supported under Obama (intentionally).
Iran’s nuclear efforts are accelerating.
Iran’s management sees Iran as the unifying force behind a ‘United States of The Middle East/North Africa’, becoming the central supplier of nukes to put all of these nations on a defensive/offensive par with the west. Once that is accomplished, they will move to incorporate all 47 nations with a Muslim majority, including Turkey, Malaysia and Indonesia.
This is not a wild conspiracy theory; it is an appropriate agenda and reasonable plan if viewed from the perspective of Iran, Syria, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Egypt, etc.
…and that is the scary part!
I can’t help but believe we are seeing the Psalm 83 confederacy taking shape before our eyes. If I am correct we will see an attack on Israel that doesn’t include Turkey, Iran, and Libya. I expect the next thing we will see is something that slows down Iran and their nuclear ambitions.
Egypt will certainly be involved and I would not be surprised to see nukes involved. There is a good chance we will see Damascus, Cairo, Lebanon, and Baghdad destroyed.
So long as the people in power discount the bible and think they can negotiate peace, they are doomed to carry out its smallest decrees! I wouldn’t worry. Islam is doomed, because they defy the God of the bible. I think the God of the bible is going to make a spectacle of them, the likes of which the world has never seen!
Mr. Knezacek, you have hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer.
When GOD WARNED In Isaiah xix That HE WILL GIVE Egypt to a cruel master,
we thought of some kind of enhanced Saddam.
But now the likeliest candidate is the faceless organization known as the MB.
Nukes will be extremely messy, I don’t think THE GOD Of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob WILL ALLOW them to be used on a large scale.
But something will cripple the Tehran regime’ nuclear program so much that this evil theocracy as the nexus of world terrorism will be shattered.
And with the Islamic world thrown into such a disarray, Turkey standing helplessly by, the Arab Islamics under the implacable leadership of the MB will, in a frantic attempt to seize again the initiative launch a general assault upon Israel, possibly with chemical and biological weapons from Syria. Which explains the prophecy concerning Damascus in Isaiah xvii.
The wars of 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973 were nothing short of miraculous.
This time the Miracle will be greater than all of them together, but nothing when compared to Ezekiel xxxviii, xxxix.
However there is still the great unknown in this coming war, of nuclear-armed Pakistan, which now is part of the political ME. Perhaps it will go the way
of the Tehran regime.
But Russia and China will lose all their assets and investments in Syria and Iran. The lightning Arab defeat will leave them as flat-footed as a steam-rolled tortilla.
As in ’67 when the SovietUnion tried to provoke Israel into a war with the Arabs for a pretext to destroy the nuclear center of Di Mona (six days were not enough)
The remaining North African Arabs (Mauritania, Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia , Libya, or Put) will have to behave and bid their time for the next round.
Suddenly the West rises again(perhaps unified under the coming prince) and will mediate a peace treaty recognizing Israel New Borders.
Anyway, exit “Palestine” !
The Israeli overwhelmingly crushing victory will save an undeserving Western world from Islamization.
It will be quite a sight the Muslim parasites scurrying out of Europe after the Europeans got their spines back thanks to the Jews.
When the evil ayatollah Khomeini took power in Tehran at the beginning of 1979,
his first statement was a most chilling one : “Now, nothing will anymore stand in the way of Iran helping to liberate the entire Palestine !”
In other words, in Khomeini’s mind, nothing is more important than the destruction of Israel.
He had appointed himself the champion of the Muslim cause which is death to all non-Muslims, and saw correctly Israel as The Keystone To The Western world, however Westerners hate Israel.
Enemies of Israel would do well to read Psalm xxiii.
Not worse than I expected.
And I’m not an expert.
Help me out people -
When this Arab Spring with the Muslim Brotherhood first started rearing its ugly head – I read reports of UAW-CIO funds being sent to bolster the Brotherhood coffers – can’t find the articles now – in my desire to associate the giant US unions with world class troublemakers – was I dreaming about Communist funding for a Muslim cause?
And what could be gained by the Unions – they are still infidels and still quite stupid!
my MidEast Rule of Thumb is:
if a pundit is being optimistic, multiply everything he says for -1 and you will be nearer to reality.
If a pundit is being pessimistic, multiply everything by 10 or 100, and you will be nearer to reality.