An Open Letter to the Foreign Policy Establishment: If You See Something Disastrous, Say Something
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Dear Distinguished Reader:
You have spent years working for the interests of the United States and years thinking about international affairs. Perhaps you have served in the State Department, Defense Department, National Security Council, or intelligence. Perhaps you are a member of the Council on Foreign Relations or the Foreign Policy Association. Or maybe you are a university professor or work in a research center.
The time has come to speak out because the U.S. national interest is in danger and you know it.
You are reluctant, though, to say anything publicly about the perilous state of U.S. foreign policy today. Perhaps you are a Democrat or see yourself as a liberal (I know you don’t see yourself as a radical or Leftist). Possibly you believe in always supporting the government publicly. No doubt many of your friends and the newspapers you read tell you that everything is going great. And then there’s the matter of your prestige and, if you are still in government, of your career.
I understand all that but surely you see how bad, how mismanaged, is American diplomacy right now.
And it isn’t as if you or your colleagues held back your criticism of President George W. Bush.
You know people from different countries who are friends of the United States. What are they saying to you in private? That they think their country is better off with the current U.S. leadership and its policies? No. That they aren’t worried? No. That they see their enemies and those of the United States advancing? Yes.
Aren’t they asking you for help?
I could talk about Asia, or Latin America, or Europe or Africa. Each region, each country, has special needs, problems, and complaints.
But let me speak to you about the Middle East since that’s the area I work on.
First, though, let’s clear the air. You know that I support Israel and you might either be neutral or hostile to that country. But that’s not the issue here. Neither is being liberal or conservative, Democratic or Republican. Many of you have served presidents of different parties and put producing an honest analysis — and the well-being of the United States — above partisanship or ideology.
American policy has been built for decades on opposition to America’s enemies (Communism, radical Arab nationalism, terrorism, revolutionary Islamism) and by building alliances with friendly states in the region (Morocco and Tunisia, Egypt and Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf emirates, Turkey, Israel, and others).
Many of you who work on the Middle East feel that Israel has gotten in the way of those relationships; made your job harder; stirred up anti-Americanism; and created unnecessary crises.
But this is not the key issue at present. The key issue is that revolutionary Islamism — anti-American to the core whatever soothing words are spoken — is advancing. And U.S. policy in this administration is helping.
Since I see that the sentence “Mubarak got tossed on the garbageheap” has become a viral meme in rightwing talking points, I would chalenge mr. Rubin to come up with an alternative actionplan that the administration should have followed during the Arab Spring. Should they have supported Mubarak in the face of his own people? Landed troops and started breaking civilian skulls? Should the US have sided with a dictator against his own people?
Mr. Rubin fears a Sunni-crescent, composed of Libya, Tunis, Egypt and possibly Syria with Turkey acting like a benevolent uncle. From a European pov, this is a development not to be feared but cheered, insofar as it opens up huge new markets for Europes failing economy to feed on, and in second degree effect this benefits the US too since it will give the market much needed stability. It will also make the battle against terrorism easier, insofar as these new governments actually know the people involved and so will be able to separate the dangerous ones from the merely crazy. And this *will* be in their interests, since the salafis without failure make themselves hated in any moderate muslim community. The only looser in the scenario is Israel, who will face a sufficiently strong block to have to change its slow annexation of the West Bank. The question for diplomats and experts alike must then be: Are you willing to sacrifice US and European interests for the sake of Israels settlements?
Benevolent uncle? Followers of Mohammad will be “benevolent uncles”? Kind of like Uncle Joe [Stalin]? Is this a joke? Where am I? Is this candid camera? Oh no, this is Oz, isn’t it?
Like it or not, but Turkey is currently a NATO member and pulling their weight in Afghanistan. They are really well posed to act as mediators bewtween the new goverments in the region and the west. Of course, if you choose the path of equaling the muslim countries with the Soviet block you get a different picture, and not a very happy one either. Its a picture with little resemblance to reality, but its still a functionable dystopia if you want to blame it all on Obama and cry doom doom.
How about we just minded our own business for a change?
Fnord, this administration was instrumental in “organizing” this “grass-roots” Arab Spring as well as the “grass-roots” occupiers. Communists, socialists, extreme leftists, nazis, and islamists are using each other as “dupes” at the peril of the world.
Several decades from now, in a much different world, Islama-fascists will sing their songs about the hero who finally united all of the warring factions in the middle east and wiped the infidels from the face of the earth, and that hero will turn out to be our very own Barack Obama.
Should they have supported Mubarak in the face of his own people?
From what I read it seems that the US fomented the uprising against Mubarak and financed groups to oppose him.
The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising
It is impossible to clean up the US foreign policy establishment. The only thing that would help would be to shut it all down and start over, on a much smaller scale, without the leftist/pro-Islam cabal that is running things now. All intelligence should be under the military.
The real problem is that Washington DC, particularly the State Department, is swarming with Muslim Brotherhood moles.
You are right. The US played an important out of sight role in enabling the Arab Winter. What the US has done is the biggest strategic mistake of the West in its last five hundred years. The effect will vastly dwarf the effect of Carter enabling the establishment of the Iran Islamic Republic.
Fnord, You are digging your own grave.
Zechariah 14;12 וְזֹאת תִּהְיֶה הַמַּגֵּפָה, אֲשֶׁר יִגֹּף יְהוָה אֶת-כָּל-הָעַמִּים, אֲשֶׁר צָבְאוּ, עַל-יְרוּשָׁלִָם; הָמֵק בְּשָׂרוֹ, וְהוּא עֹמֵד עַל-רַגְלָיו, וְעֵינָיו תִּמַּקְנָה בְחֹרֵיהֶן, וּלְשׁוֹנוֹ תִּמַּק בְּפִיהֶם.
And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the peoples that have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their sockets, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
The neutron bomb melts (dissolves) its victims just as HaShem warned 2500 years ago. Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths. This was unimaginable in prophet Zechariah’s (zs’kl) day.
Actually, the administration SHOULD have supported Mubarak. What you have now is the same regime, but a different ruler.
You want to hope that there won’t be any elections in Egypt, since that would bring the Muslim Brotherhood to power.
Fnord, sweetie, bless your little heart! The new governments ARE the Evil Ones, baby! The entire middle east is being taken over by islamic jihadists while y’all with chamberlainist tendencies pretend to rationalize the growing internationalization of that vicious, filthy, islamic movement. What you are saying is: ” Lets not incarcerate murderers, rapists, dope peddlers, child molesters, robbers- because, if we do, there may be fewer customers for our candy store.”
And, as to your question: We must not help the Islamothugs take over, as we did in Libya. We must make it clear to the emerging powers in the disaffected countries that Israel is our ally, and any attack on Israel is an attack on us. If the fools living in those countries want to live under Sharia, let them do so. If they attempt, by any means, to implant their evil notions here, we will make them wish they had never been born.
As to the Nuke aspect: Oscumbag needs to call Ahmadinejad and ask him whether he prefers to disassemble Irans’ nukes today- or have us do it tomorrow.Then we need to do it tomorrow.
I’ll second that! Right On.
THIS admin CREATED THE ARAB SPRING! WAKE UP AND WISE UP!
“Revolutionary Islamism”? What the Hell is that? A revolution by Muslims against Mohammad’s teachings? Never heard of such a thing.
Too subtle.
The problem is US foreign policy in the Middle east was geared to fail since we struck a bargain with Saudi Arabia in 1971, the Petro Dollar System. This system sells petroleum in US dollars regardless who is buying.
Saudi Arabia funds most global terrorism through their system of Wahhabi Schools, and each time Saudi Arabia sells petroleum in US dollars, we are funding those same schools of terror. The fact that most of the Terrorists that attacked NYC on 9/11 were Saudi seems to be overlooked with willful ignorance.
In addition Saudi Arabia has a Bounty on Israeli soldiers heads of 1 million dollars to be used in prisoner exchanges.
Why we remain Saudi Arabia’s friend is difficult to determine.
As far as the Arab Spring, this was the result of overthrowing Iraq, something President H bush understood and refused to do in the First Gulf war. It is interesting that the same people supporting the invasion of Iraq as the lynch pin to freedom and democracy in 2003, are now frightened by the results of that invasion.
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Thanks, Mr. Rubin, for alerting the dim light bulbs in our intellectual elite who thought that the Arab Spring would bring better government to the Arab world. It won’t, except perhaps in Tunisia. Elsewhere it will bring new forms of chaos, persecution of nonfavored groups, and economic decline in the nonoil states. The two beneficiaries from all of this will be Israel and perhaps Turkey in the short term. This must be a Zionist plot.
The Europeans won’t benefit from anything except a little petro-related business in Libya. They are far beyond the point of being able to benefit from anything in the Middle East. The horrible political order that has been preserved in formaldehyde for 60 years, let us recall, was created by them for their advantage. This order is now going down in flames, just as they are going bankrupt. A nicer confluence of events could not have been wished for.
Umm, youre aware of the fact that these days we live in a globalized economy? So that Europes ruin will also be shared by the US?
“A friendly and moderate government in Lebanon has been thrown out by Hizballah and other clients of Syria and Iran. What are your Lebanese friends telling you?”
This is what bothers me most. We actually, had a chance to put into place a working, western-style, democracy and through horrible lack of support from the west we literally threw this chance away. We abdicated our responsibilities in working with this government to Hezbollah, and now Lebanon is just another failed Islamic state, only this one is actually on the border with Israel and armed to the teeth with Iranian and Syrian weapons.
Remember the Cedar Revolution when the Lebanese even stood up to the Syrians? All of that is gone now and Hezbollah has a stranglehold on the country. There even was a good Christian minority that was openly pro-west. What are to become of these people now? They will probably be slaughtered by Hezbollah or certainly forced to leave the country. This was a shameful display of neglect on the part of the United States and it certainly did not have to end up this way. This was the same country that just a few short years ago actually fought al Qaeda troops in Lebanon and defeated them. This was a horrible failure on our part and if this is a display of Obama’s “Smart Power,” he really is dangerous to not only Israel, but to this country as well.
Maybe my memory is wrong here, but didn’t the UN get involved in the Cedar Revolution days and send observers who observed Syria’s arming of Hizbollah?
The Arab Spring is the beginning of the end for the Crusaders, Zionists and Infidels in the Middle East. For several decades the Great Satan and the Little Satan have installed and propped up illegitimate stooges to repress us and cooperate with them. That is now coming to an end. We are now overthrowing the pro-Western and pro-Zionist puppets that you decadent infidels have installed and propped up for the last few decades.
A New Middle East is emerging. The pro-Western and pro-Zionist illegitimate dictators are being overthrown, one by one. And in their place we are establishing Islamic states ruled by the Sharia, from Egypt to Yemen, from Turkey to Somalia, from Libya to Syria, from The Land of the Two Holy Mosques to Sudan, from Tunisia to Gaza, from Jordan to Lebanon, from Indonesia to Pakistan, from Iran to Bangladesh, and many other places (and one day in Europe, and eventually in America).
It is our time now. This is the Great Awakening for Islam. We are returning to our roots. We live in Muslim countries, and our laws will reflect our religion — that’s natural. You infidels are dying. You infidels are retreating. You decadent infidels are bankrupt and your fraudulent economic system will soon collapse. Your fraudulent financial and banking system are destroying your countries, with their haram loans with interest which brings about exploding debts which you can never pay off. Your societies are collapsing. Islam is spreading throughout the world. We are on the march. Islam is on the rise. Christianity is dying. We have lots of children. You decadent infidels kill your children. We will rule over you.
We are also taking over Europe. We don’t even need to use nuclear bombs to conquer you decadent infidels. We already have nearly 50 million of our brothers and sisters in the infidel nations of Europe, who are growing rapidly in number, while the infidels are aging, shrinking, and dying, and are turning it into Eurabia. Our women’s wombs are our greatest weapon. We are conquering you in the maternity wards and kindergartens. You can’t stop it. Your grandchildren will be living under Sharia. It is inevitable. Your granddaughters will wear the burqa. Your infidel lifestyle has proven to be a total and absolute failure. We have the answer. You degenerate Westerners way of life is collapsing all around you. You are unable to solve your own problems. We have a better way of life. You will join us. Either voluntarily, or against your will.
We defeated the Soviet Union in Afghanistan…and we have now defeated you imperialist American infidels in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are gaining strength every day, while you infidels are becoming weaker and weaker. You are no match for us. We will defeat you easily. You are not ready for what is coming. You don’t stand a chance. It’s not too late. You can still join us. Time is running out for you infidels.
We will soon overthrow the American-backed dictator in The Land of the Two Holy Mosques, and we will cut off your infidels oil supply, and your economy will come crashing down. We are going to take on the fake illegitimate Zionist regime…and when we are done with them, we will come for you imperialist Americans, on U.S. soil, and we will fight you in the streets, house to house, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, until the Sharia is established and you decadent infidels are subjugated. Allahu Akbar!
Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Koran is our law. Jihad [holy war] is our way. Dying for the sake of Allah is our highest hope.
Some of us are too scared to turn your countries into glass.
Islam is rising. Christianity is dying. Zionists are an endangered species — and will soon be extinct.
You Infidels in America and Europe, your decadent nations are collapsing, while our population is exploding. You decadent Infidels are aging and dying out. We will enter your countries, and take over through our sheer numbers, and impose the Sharia — God’s Law. Our women’s wombs are our greatest weapon. We are conquering you in the maternity wards and kindergartens. Your Infidel lifestyle has proven to be a total and absolute failure. We have the answer. You degenerate Westerners way of life is collapsing all around you. You are unable to solve your own problems. We have a better way of life. Allah’s laws are for all nations, all countries and for all time. All other laws are man-made and must submit to the will of Allah. It will be hard for you at first, but once you get used to it, you will be much better off.
We defeated the Russians and the Americans. Allah is on our side! Our victory is inevitable. Time is on our side. Every day we get stronger and stronger, while you decadent Infidels get weaker and weaker. We are ascendent. You are declining. Now is our time. This is the Islamic Great Awakening. We are winning all over the globe. You Infidels are dying. You Infidels are retreating. You decadent Infidels are bankrupt and your fraudulent economic system will soon collapse. Your societies are collapsing. Islam is spreading throughout the world. We are on the march. Islam is on the rise. Christianity is dying. We have lots of children. You decadent Infidels kill your children. We will rule over you. Time is running out for you Infidels.
We don’t want your filthy decadent Western culture coming into our societies, and poisoning the minds of our children. We don’t want to have anything to do with your sick poisonous culture — the sexual immorality, pornography, prostitution, divorces, broken families, filthy movies, homosexual marriage, drugs, alcohol, gambling, consumerism, materialism, hedonism etc. We want nothing to do with your decadent culture.
The fake illegitimate Zionist regime will cease to exist very soon. The demise of the phony Zionist entity is rapidly approaching. The Little Satan’s end is near.
The Jihad and the Sharia are unstoppable! Allahu Akbar!
Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Koran is our law. Jihad [holy war] is our way. Dying for the sake of Allah is our highest hope.
Hummm, actually we don’t want anything to do with your decadent Islamic culture either. The sooner Muslim immigration is stopped everywhere the better off we will all be. Islam is only a destroyer of civilization, it builds nothing good. It will be stopped because we know what you are.
Rubin is right.
Nice anti-muslim trolling. You forgot the part of wanting to use our children for your blood-rituals though. Since youre mirroring the old anti-semite cliches, I mean.
Fnord, Here is an answer for you
The evidence would seem to support that islamists use their own (muslim) children in blood rituals. I must assume the entire muslim community finds this acceptable, as there have been no mass demonstrations against suicide bombers.
Oh Islamist, my 97 year old gran would agree with you about:
the sexual immorality, pornography, prostitution, divorces, broken families, filthy movies, homosexual marriage, drugs, alcohol, gambling, consumerism, materialism, hedonism etc.
Kindness and grace is her objective, God is her leader and the Bible & Constitution are her law.
BTW, She is fine with all of you dying for Allah!
islamist. it sure is good to know you damned IDIOTS revere a damned pedophile. or do you even care? no as a islamist you wouldn’t care because you are all pedophiles and just outright IDIOTS,
Thanks for informing us that jihad means [holy war]. We would have been utterly lost without your thoughtful explanation.
Just a couple of things, though.
“Christianity is dying.”
No, actually Muslims are working hard to murder it, but there are still many more Christians than Muslims worldwide, and despite the statistics so often fabricated by the Brotherhood, and groups like CAIR, Christianity is growing as fast, or faster than Islam in places like China, India and South America. Nice bit of false bravado, though.
“We defeated the Soviet Union in Afghanistan”
No, wrong again, mate. Actually, WE defeated the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, and we used the Mujaheddin, and the ISI as paymasters, to do it.
“We will soon overthrow the American-backed dictator in The Land of the Two Holy Mosques, and we will cut off your infidels oil supply, and your economy will come crashing down.”
Yes, that’s nice… except we get more oil from Canada and Mexico than from Saudi Arabia, and at best, you would only provoke us to use our massive untapped shale oil and natural gas reserves.
“We are returning to our roots.”
Now on that, we are in agreement. Inside of 20 years, the Arab nations who have benefited from western largess – and petrodollars – will return to the squalid, barren wastelands they were in the early 20th century, and all you will have left is your impotent rage, your sexual frustration and the deep-seated inferiority complex that drives your every action.
But again, nice bit of false bravado there. If one didn’t know better, you sure would be, um, scary or something. Now if only you didn’t sound so cliché, perhaps I could convince myself you are not just another Internet troll, and not even a real Muslim.
Don’t you mean killing for the sake of allah is your highest hope? An awful way of life you propose for women and children, both boys and girls. God bless America, the home of the free and the land of the brave.
It’s nice that you’ve found a paying gig.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf2iquFlmT0&feature=pyv&ad=5594705200&kw=jeff%20dunham
Be careful what you pray for. You may get it.
I see the same divide between a Judeo-Christian culture and civilization versus a satanic cult invented by an evil rapist, child molester, plundering bandit whose values are evident in the Koran, Sunnah, Hadith, etc. Just don’t count us out yet, remember Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Hamburg, and others. I believe we can destroy you all, don’t you think so?
You! Again?
You message is crackly and static laden, just like an old 78rpm recording of the Horst Wessel Song.
You’re tiresome.
1 Keep not thou silence, O God:
hold not thy peace,
and be not still, O God.
2 For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult:
and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people,
and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation;
that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5 For they have consulted together with one consent:
they are confederate against thee:
6 the tabernacles of Edom, and the Ish’maelites;
of Moab, and the Hag’arenes;
7 Gebal, and Ammon, and Am’alek;
the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assur also is joined with them:
they have helped the children of Lot.
Selah.
9 Do unto them as unto the Mid’i-anites; Judg. 7.1-23
as to Sis’era, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison: Judg. 4.6-22
10 which perished at En–dor:
they became as dung for the earth.
11 Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Ze’eb: Judg. 7.25
yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmun’na: Judg. 8.12
12 who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.
13 O my God, make them like a wheel;
as the stubble before the wind.
14 As the fire burneth a wood,
and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
15 so persecute them with thy tempest,
and make them afraid with thy storm.
16 Fill their faces with shame;
that they may seek thy name, O LORD.
17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever;
yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:
18 that men may know that thou,
whose name alone is JEHOVAH,
art the Most High over all the earth.
Boom!
I am sorry. And as a Grandfather very afeared. The world is not a faculty lounge. And wishful thinking will not make it so. But there comes a time in human events, when the ‘Horsmen’ appear on the horizon with the “CRY HAVOC!” And let slip the dogs… And nothing that has gone before will remain the same.
I hear hoofbeats.
If, as you say, “We don’t want to have anything to do with your sick poisonous culture — the sexual immorality, pornography”, etc., then why was Been Laden huddled like a rat under his blanket watching his rather extensive library of pornography?????
In September I had several conversations with a highly intelligent and pro=western retired professor from Ankara.In his and his friends opinion prime-minister Erdogan and president Abdullah Gul are the worst thing that happened to his country in many years. He strongly believes that one day they will be gone because nowadays it is easier to imprison two hundred pro-western officers than to eradicate anticlerical and anti-Arab feelings in Turkey.
These aren’t foreign policy “mistakes”; but willful policies. Why? Probably because George Soros and his One World Government wants it. And to what end: to make money above all else. They make money on the collapse of currencies and by the investments they make. They have the inside knowledge and always place their bets so they can win. And win big they do; all the expense of citizens and investors on the other side of the bet.
This piece is accurate, but not useful, following the neo-marxist line of trying to manage conflicts, which are really not manageable at any sort of reasonable cost. This lust to interfere, cultural and ideological should be avoided.
I think the policies in place now are the best available, given the West’s political situation.
1. No matter the situation, there is still going to be a lot of conflict, even among Islamist states. I think they are like domestic disputes: both sides turn against outsiders. We should leave well enough alone.
2. Historically the West has waited until the threat is severe enough to justify extreme measures. Vietnam is an example of failing to follow that line of thought, but there are others.
3. There is a real lack of resources: these countries receive enough aid, that reducing it would hurt, though perhaps not enough to gain our ends. Nancy Birdsall has made that point on Pakistan: soft power can only do so much.
4. Remember Mussolini bragged of 12 MM bayonets? Well Islam might have a billion angry Muslims, but deploying them might be an issue. The issue is local so should be dealt with by the locals, especially Israel. A lot of countries there have the same interests.
5. The West wants to wait until it can fight its war. Islam like raiding and hit and run, terrorism and so forth: fight and run to safety. The West like to totally crush an enemy. A califate would be just the thing: large enough to appear a threat, weak enough to be beaten.
Finally the mindset in the article is embarrassingly left. Rather than hectoring his betters, time might be better spent in understanding the reasons.
“The government of Egypt, America’s most reliable ally in the Arab world, was tossed on the rubbish heap by the White House even as the State Department tried to manage a smooth transition that would maintain a stable, friendly government there.”
This has been stated in different ways over and over again. Can someone please tell me exactly what mechanism the US could have employed to change a single thing that occurred as a result of the Egyptian revolution?
To me, the idea that we have that kind of sway in that type of situation one way or the other is pure fantasy. The problem was millions of people in the streets and they weren’t going anywhere until placated. How would we have talked to them?
We now know that the US was the enabling hand behind the Arab Winter in Egypt and elsewhere.
Yes I know; I’ve read it a thousand times. I asked exactly what mechanism which I have yet to hear even one time. Strange to hear over and over again a thing taken for granted to have occurred without a single journalist speaking to how America could have affected the Egyptian revolution one way or the other.
The same is blithely stated about Syria, Yemen, etc. Exactly how can we control mobs and how is it a failure or success on the part of the U.S. to do so?
The fact is that once things get to the point they did in Tunisia and Egypt there’s not a damn thing we can do short of invasion. We didn’t throw Mubarak to the wolves; we were helpless bystanders whose words one way or the other meant nothing to millions of Egyptians on the street when it came to returning to their homes.
The suggestion that we DID or do have such influence is ludicrous.
The “mobs” were the sideshow, designed to deflect attention from the real backstage negotiations. Mubarak had already said he would not run for re-election long before the Arab Spring mobs appeared on the streets. The machinations for who would take over started long before the demonstrations as well. The main actor was the Army who owns much of the real estate and resources in Egypt. According to the Egyptian blogger called Sandmonkey, some challengers to the Army’s power like Mubarak’s son wanted to remove the power of the Army over the economy. The Army did not like that. The Army’s alliance with the Muslim Brotherhood, supported by the US, assured that the Army would remain in power. So the so-called “revolution” was really a means to maintain the status quo in Egypt. The danger is thinking that the Muslim Brotherhood can be kept under control as was Mubarak all those years.
Professor Rubin, Aren’t you assuming our foreign policy experts can read?
True dat. Barry, could you please forward this letter to the American electorate and/or have someone read this to each of them who can’t read? We haven’t had an administration for at least a couple decades now who are/were capable of forming a strong foreign policy. And, the electorate doesn’t seem to notice or care as they busy themselves with Facebook, American Idol or even PacMan. We’re getting the foreign policy we deserve, and to hell with thousands, if not millions, of others who will die to pay the price of civic complacency.
A “foreign policy establishment” is, ipso facto, between a rock and a hard place, its members torn between protecting their personal fiefdoms within said establishment and airing their frustrations and concerns to (so called) higher ups.
I would surmise that the current head of America’s FPE, Hillary Clinton, is not exactly open to subordinates speaking their true minds, on the subject of the rise of Islamism or any other subject on the planet. In her own public remarks, she seems to be one of the worst placaters, even sycophants, as in referring to Syria’s Assad earlier this year as a “reformer”.
Political correctness and personal posturing are antithetical to the truth, and official FPE’s throughout the world are as much integral to the problem as they could potentially be to the solution.
You can’t have bold action when your major concern is protecting your own little preserve.
Islam is ascendant. Christianity is dying. Zionism will soon be extinct, Insha’Allah. We are growing…you decadent Infidels are dying. Our Holy Warriors have defeated you Crusaders in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our Holy Warriors are defeating and conquering you Crusaders and Infidels in Nigeria, Ethiopia, Sudan, Kashmir, Palestine, Chechnya, Paris, Londonistan, Dearborn, Minneapolis, Patterson etc…
Your decadent Western Civilization is on the brink off collapse. Where your decadent Western Civilization came out of — Athens and Rome — is where it will die. Just look at the headlines. Athens has a debt that is 160% of their GDP, and is paying 27.9% interest to service their debt & Rome has a debt that is 120% of their GDP, and is paying 6.7% interest to service their debt.
When Athens and Rome default on their debt — your whole civilization will come tumbling down…and that is when we will make our move…
There is a lot truth in your analysis. But don’t ignore China; they have ambitions, too, which may not be the same as yours. You wouldn’t last a week against a million man army from China if they see you as a peril to their huge need for oil…….
We have invaded the homeland of the Crusaders and Infidels, and we are waiting for the decadent nations to collapse…we will then make our move. We are ahead of schedule. We knew that one day your decadent societies would collapse, but we didn’t think it would happen this soon. We are here, and when your rotten civilization comes tumbling down — which it will as soon as Athens and Rome go bankrupt and default on their debt, that will send the snowball rolling down the mountain, as you infidels say, and we will make our move…
We have our Holy Warriors present in Atlanta, Chicago, Dearborn, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minneapolis, New York, Patterson, Philadelphia etc. ready to take action when the time is right…
Our Islamic Invading Armies are defeating and subjugating you Infidels in
Amsterdam, Berlin, Birmingham, Brussels, Bradford, Hamburg, Leicester, Londonistan, Luton, Malmo, Marseille, Moscow, Paris, Rotterdam, Stockholm, Vienna etc…
China is with us — for now. We’ll deal with them when the time comes…
Allah is on our side! Our victory is inevitable. The Jihad and the Sharia are unstoppable! Allahu Akbar!
Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Koran is our law. Jihad [holy war] is our way. Dying for the sake of Allah is our highest hope.
Certainly…
That’s weird: I thought YOU were the Crusaders and Infidels. I guess that leaves us even.
Except I don’t have to leech onto a culture like a remora in order to have even a ceramic toilet. I guess that kinda breaks the tie.
Have fun playing with your magic cell phone. It’s not really magic y’know.
LovelyEarth, why do you have to be such an obvious troll?
Her mother was a cricket and thence the droning/flatline.
There hasn’t been a pulse in months.
Yes, please die and put yourself out of your misery.
I interpret “Islamist in Londistan, Saudi Britannia, Eurabia” as a joke, a satire of islamist pretensions. “Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Koran is our law.” What does that mean? Allah – God? – is your objective?? Mohammed is “the prophet,” – he got revelation from the angel Gibreel – how did he know that it was true? How does anybody know that this is true? Mohammed said so? – do you believe me when I tell you I had a revelation that the moon is made of green cheese? Why is the Koran your law? What reasons do you have for accepting it as law? Is it law at all?
Let’s “cut to the chase.” Islam has hated the U.S. ever since Jefferson sent a squadron to the Mediterranean to stop the Muslim piracy, which had captured our ships, enslaved (literally) our seamen, held Americans for ransom, and showed no inclination to stop. The pirates were defeated, piracy ended and the leaders of the Ottoman Empire in Turkey lost a lot of loot.
But Christians were considered enemies of Islam from Mohammad’s time and considered “infidels’ subject to whatever brutalities the Muslims could invent. The Jews were similarly, even more fiercely, hated from the early days of Mohammad’s conquests because they not only refused Islam, but even derided it as inaccurate in its mentions of Hebrew prophets and principles.
But with huge resources of petroleum and the singleminded dedication to Jihad, plus
Europe’s dependence on Arab oil for heating and internal combustion engines, they see a future of increasing power and influence over the West. The West’s increasing hedonism and decreasing population, combined with increasing Muslim minorities confers another advantage to Islam, perhaps even the hoped for renewal of the Empire or Caliphate.
If they ally with the ambitious China, A new super empire could emerge which might rule the planet for several centuries. Not probable, perhaps, but possible. .
May I add that the division of Islam and Judea may have begun with the division of the children of Abraham. Also add that Islam would never accept the Chinese or Russians as any one other than infidels. And thirdly add the current practice of Jihad is a corruption of Islam, of which the other 90% of Muslims have not sufficiently denounced. The ranting guy that keeps showing up on these pages is not entirely incorrect about the decadence of the Western Empires.
Some points to think about.
Words and ideas have consequences. Obama seems not to grasp this. Or, does he?
Witness his Cairo speech several years ago. Witness his class warfare rhetoric “There is a dry wind blowing in the East, and the parched grass awaits the fire. Whence cometh that wind, think ye?” This was written in 1916. Obama and Hillary are political animals. They never, never let facts get in the way of their pre-conceived notions, ever. The USA, the UK, the EU are all broke, period. Wars are always far more expensive than we ever realise. The political systems of the USA, the UK, the EU are seizing up. Bad trouble.
“Islam is ascendant. Christianity is dying. Zionism will soon be extinct, Insha’Allah.” I wouldn’t waste my time on this prolific ignoramus but unfortunately he obviously escaped from his beloved Muslim world or even was born at the despicable West or grew up on British welfare or has numerous children supported by our welfare systems and that is a problem for our security, economic stability and cultural traditions. I don’t know what he calls Islam. i am afraid he also doesn’t. There are many different Islams in the world and they hate each other more than they hate Jews and Christians and in this century they do not intend to stop mutual annihilation. He is certainly aware that Muslims for centuries keep killing each other in great numbers. And yet I feel sorry for his impressionable children, he is endangering their lives and hopes for better future.
Since Obama agreed with Sarkozy that Netanyahu is a “liar” I realize that the West has simply thrown in the towel with anything resembling sensible diplomacy and has decided to let down their allies and let the devil take the hindmost.
The only thing keeping the situation in check is the knowledge that Israel probably has “The Sampson Option.”
The Leaders of various Arab Countries may be utterly evil (Assad, for example), but they’re not stupid.
But wasn’t it a fine remark from one conman to another?
“Radical Arab Nationalism” has never been an enemy of the USA. The opposite is actually true, as our government has often befriended nationalist Arabs over the years.
However, Arab Nationalism is a potential threat to Israel, therefore dishonest Zionists like Barry Rubin are trying to make Israel’s enemies into America’s enemies.
Unfortunately, with the help of the traitors who are funded by AIPAC, the Zionists are succeeding.
Radical Arab Nationalism, aka Islamic Jihad, is, in fact, Americas chief enemy; and also the most fearsome enemy of every country in the world. We are not referring to handfulls of criminals here and there who want to illegally and violently go on a killing spree that results in taking political control of theat country and establishing a new, secular dictatorship. We are referring to a worldwide islamic conspiracy to take over all countries and subject their inhabitants to enslavement or death, as per the koranic dictates. They have made plain their intent by, word, by deed, by the history they have established. Why won’t y’all believe them?
Islam is an international criminal conspiracy to overthrow the existing sovereign states of the world by whatever means necessary, and impose koranic rule, via sharia, on all men, everywhere. Islam, the psychosis of a murderer, robber, rapist, child molester and magalomaniac, poses as a religion but is actually a criminal institution of gigantic proportions.
We must fear it, attack it, and utterly destroy it- or it will destroy us.
When will men learn that no compromise with evil is possible?
If we let the snake in the tent it will bite us, because that is its nature. The declared mission of the islamist is to enslave or kill all unbelievers.
If you wish to be enslaved or killed; no problem. If you have better things to do, you need to get ready to fight. At all levels. And the very first battle is to get the wannabe Grand Caliph out of the White House and into prison for life.
Hey Islamist, you forgot one thing…….Jesus Christ, the Lord God Almighty! As was prophesied and promised to Israel as stated in the bible-And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee……Genisis 12:3. Bless Israel and God himself will bless you, but curse Israel and God himself will curse you! Allah is no match, you Arabs cannot even handle a small country like Israel!
Islam is the threat by their very doctrine. A cursory glance through the Quran confirms the hatred for all that are NOT Muslim. Immediate tension exists if followers obey the Quran. Peace has never been an outcome of Islam.
In response to white tiger above, removing the liar-in-chief by “if you see something, say something”- see- http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/10/19/if-you-see-something-say-something%E2%84%A2/
Beautifully written letter. Articulate, heart felt, and right on the mark. I felt somewhat heartbroken reading it as it seems like an act of desperation. I think many of us feel at a loss as to what to do, how to wake up the masses before it is too late (maybe it is already too late). We don’t have the bull horn and lack access to the mainstream media. We are informed, angry, and profoundly worried. Many days it feels surreal as I wonder, what more can I do? How can I keep this ship sailing off the cliff? Selfishly, I simply think, how can I save myself….And so, Mr. Rubin’s eloquent letter struck me as a creative, if not also desperate act in putting forth something to save our republic, the west, and our individual lives. I do fear we are losing the battle and see little hope on the horizon for things to turn around. (Sorry to be so grim.)
That ‘Islamist’ person is not an true Islamist, he/she may be just another Islamic jihadi maniac or puerile Islamic indoctrinated imbecile, but I very much doubt it.
In my view, She/He is an agent provocateur, the give away is the use of the word “londinistan”, no Islamic maniac would use such a word as it draws attention to the book of the same title by Melanie Phillips.
In my view this person is a phony, this faux haji woman/man is pretending to be an islamist lunatic by using Islamic lunatic, jihadi/Islamist aspirations to gird you into a state of anger, i have spent a lot of virtual time engaging with real Islamic maniacs and the one constant that all islamist computer jihadis exhibit is the overwhelming urge to lie and to try to convince their virtual interlocutor, time and time again, that they are really really nice and peaceful.
All islamists, without exception, want to impose Sharia law on every single civilization on Earth, any that say they don’t, are liars. All Islamic theocratic lunatics are happy to lie because Islamic holy scripture “says” it is OK to lie to non believers.
So here we have the paradox, true islamists will Always lie about their delusional intentions to subjugate the world to the barbarism of islamic sharia law, the only others who would express such aspirations are the imbecilic, the totallly deranged Islamic maniac, or, the Agent provocateur,.
A true Islamist would never speak honestly about their aspirations to return the world the dark ages because a ‘true’ Islamist is by definition, a liar.
Oh yes and the one other dead give away for this “Islamist” person not being an ‘islamist’?
Islamists tend to not call themselves “islamists”, especially on line.
So which are you “Islamist in londinistan”?
Islamic maniac? Idiot child? Or neo national socialist?
Answers on a postcard from londinistan, written in crayon naturally.
PPS, Islamic fascism is increasing exponentially and we, the west, are all going to have to unite to defeat it, but don’t fret, we will and we will, we simply haven’t the collective “will” to do it yet, but trust me, we will shortly.
Islamic fascism is fated to go the way of national socialism, it will be long and bloody, but it will be defeated.
Why are you surprised?
Barak Hussain and the Iranian born Valerie Jarrett know full well what they are doing!
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