Christie Administration in NJ Concludes NYPD Surveillance Was Legal
It is especially unfortunate, moreover, that NYPD’s detractors (AP and Muslim activists in particular) continue to emphasize the fact that the surveillance activities focused on “students.” If journalists did their homework (or were not so Islamophilic), this would be a strong point in the NYPD’s favor.
As I detail in The Grand Jihad, the Muslim Students Association — which now has hundreds of chapters in North America — is the the first building block in the Muslim Brotherhood’s American infrastructure. It has a rigorous program in which students study the writings of such Islamic supremacist icons as Hassan al-Banna, Sayyid Qutb and Abul Ala al-Mawdudi, and participate in various forms of proselytism (dawa or what Robert Spencer aptly calls “stealth jihad”). There is extensive empirical evidence that many students who go through this Brotherhood-prescribed indoctrination end up sympathizing with, facilitating, or even participating in violent jihadism — to say nothing of promoting the sharia agenda that imperils American civil liberties. (See, e.g., this report from Steve Emerson’s Investigative Project on Terrorism.) If anybody in the Muslim community ought to be drawing the attention of the authorities and the public at large, it is the Muslims Student Association — which, by the way, evolved over the years into the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), the most important Islamist group in the United States, and one that was designated an unindicted coconspirator by the Justice Department in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas financing case because it was shown to have abetted the transfer of funds from the U.S. to Palestinian jihadists.
It is, of course, easy for me to cite these facts aloud. I am not seeking or holding public office in New Jersey, so it is of no moment to me, as it obviously is to the Christie administration, that New Jersey has a large, politically active Muslim population. Nonetheless, my unsolicited advice (which I’m sure the governor is just dying to hear) is that good policy makes good politics: It is better to convey the strong message to the Muslim community that it is obliged to help us discredit sharia supremacism than to convey the strong message that we are obliged to walk on eggshells around the Muslim community. Stop worrying about Islamist organizations like CAIR, ISNA and MPAC — they don’t speak for most rank-and-file American Muslims, so don’t confuse their popularity in the left-leaning media with popularity generally.
The self-ordained “leaders” of the Muslim community went predictably berserk over Attorney General Chiesa’s conclusions. It is unfortunate that he felt the need to announce the establishment of a “Muslim community outreach committee” to appease this insatiable grievance enterprise. But that said, kudos to the Christie administration for doing the right thing and acknowledging the legality and propriety of the NYPD surveillance. Thanks, also, to Gov. Christie for not sticking his thumb on the scale against the NYPD despite the public bickering between him and New York officials — many lesser public officials would not have been as scrupulous.
And how anyway should “profiling” be a fault when we do know that it is in fact from the muslim environment that come some of the most deadly threats against America ?
Shall we start investigate the nazi militias in the Inuit communities, to avoid profiling some rednecks ?
Whom should we investigate for jihadist activities ? The Salvation Army ?
It’s an “Army” !!!!!!!!!!
The struggle, also known as jihad, for Muslims is within the house of war. Following Muhammad is what Muslims do unless they are Apostate. Apostates are given death.
Fort Hood murder is Islamic jihad, and so is the Arkansas recruiting station murder. CAIR is on jihad in America at the political level using the Constitution, and Bill of Rights for cover.
Islam is not here to be American. It is here to play it’s role in changing American culture. It is the same for illegal aliens, and their turd world culture. Both are part of a CFR North American agenda to change facts on the ground. See GATT region one, and CFR North American Union.
OOH RAAH! HOOYAA-Deep Sea! Deus Veulent!
Don’t profile people in white hoods who burn crosses – it upsets Christians and white people.
“Good policy makes good politics.” That’s a keeper. Why so many pubbie politicos insist on truckling to and doing favors for people who are their sworn enemies while stiff-arming conservatives makes no sense on any level… including the basest.
Mr. Rubin, I wonder if you might have some insight on this.
I understand why Progressives sympathize with jihadis (they mistakenly think that they can use them as a surrogate army to do to violent work that they themselves do not wish to do), but what I do NOT understand, is this :
Why are the Progressives willing to go all in on The Shari’ah? Their beloved feminists, gays, and ESPECIALLY the new-progressive-superstar transsexuals will be the first to get the scimitars taken to their heads.
So what is it (aside from the superficial absolute behavior control) that enamors Progressives to The Shari’ah?
Mr. McCarthy, even.
The guys that you call “Progressives” are actually a cult derived from nihilism and they work to build a totalitarian society.
They are genetically identical to the shari’a-supporting jihadists.
Subspecies of the same genus.
Nihilists who hate Freedom.
The Progressives see themselves as both smarter than everyone else, and able to operate outside of normal laws. It’s how someone like Al Gore can prattle on about Global Warming while flouting a carbon footprint the size of Godzilla. But in Al’s case, he’s working inside western civilization that is more tolerant of both hypocrisy and the lack of obedience to religious teachings. Which in the west, is not the same as governmental law.
In the case of hard-line Muslims and what they would like to do, the really think that if the fundamentalists were to, say, get a major foothold in a major Western European country and start installing Sharia law, that somehow they would be exempted from following that law in the same way they don’t follow western religious teachings. They haven’t thought through exactly how or why they’d be exempted, just that they would (or if they have put their mighty progressive brain power to it, they assume that since they hate Israel just the way the Muslim hard-liners do, that would give them a “Get Out of Sharia Law” card free for life with those same extremists).
There is precedent in the Muslim world to give elitist progressives the belief that they will not be subject to the Sh’aria law. As long as they have wealth and connections just as in the west…
In an empiric way, we might think we know what the jihadists in the US are doing: We think that their plan is to subvert American values and plant Sharia in its stead. On the face of the evidence, this is true, but only half-true, because there is a fundamental flaw in the “experiment”, or more precisely in the experience: So far we have stupidly allowed CAIR and other obfuscate operations to pull the strings of our institutions: So we know only what the jihadists do when we let them!
I think we will find the other side of the story if we finally wake up, and oppose them, as the NJ state government indicates is in fact a perfectly valid option: What they do when opposed, is they back off! This is because what applies to ordinary bullies also applies to the jihadists: When opposed, bullies do in fact back off, after absorbing the shock of surprise. If intimidation does not work, what’s the plan B? If you come to America, you are expected to assimilate. This is not so complicated: The Mafia, thanks God largely cut down to size these days, is simply an example of what happens when immigrants, southern Italians in this particular case, do not assimilate: They establish their own parallel system!
So, what needs to be done is to prosecute the transgressions of the American ways: The honor killings would stop if they were properly retributed. Kudos to the Attorney General of the State of New Jersey!
The first World Trade Center attack in 1993 was carried out from a mosque in Jersey City, in part because Journal Square is closer to the WTC site than Times Square is. It was silly of Christie to fly off the handle when the initial reports came out because it just plays into the hands of not just the radical muslims, but the hard-core left in New York who still think the city was better when murders were averaging six a day and the police were hamstrung under David Dinkins than following the reforms spearheaded by William Bratton and Rudy Giulani, and continued by Michael Bloomberg (and Ray Kelly, who ironically was installed by Dinkins as head of NYPD because of the 2,2000 murders a year rate, then tossed out by Rudy and re-hired by Bloomberg).
Given Christie’s attitude towards doubling down on his positions — usually not the worst thing in the world for a Republican office-holder in a strong Democratic area — he could have easily gone off the deep end here just to prove a point to the officials across the river. Of course, if you are possibly looking at trying to get the VP nod from Mitt Romney, spending the spring and early summer positioning yourself to the left of Michael Bloomberg on both national security and support for local law enforcement issues isn’t not a smart strategerie, so even if Christie might have wanted to vent a little more on this, practical politics was to shut up and allow the AG investigation to play itself out.
Judge Strikes Down NDAA, Rules Obama Must Obey Constitution MAY 19, 2012 BY DOUG BOOK
http://www.westernjournalism.com/judge-strikes-down-ndaa-rules-obama-must-obey-constitution/
A judge ruled that Obama must obey the United States Constitution??!! Rut, ruh, Herr Obama is not going to be amused.
There is nothing wrong with profiling muslims. That is what the TSA Gropestapo should be doing at American airports rather than profiling little girls and elderly women.
The problem with JPM is everyone identifies the problem quite readily, however are terrified to identify source of the problem.
Saudi Arabia is the source of global Sharia Promotion and support, also funding of Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas. Saudi Royals have been promoting Sharia for decades through their Wahhabi schools and Mosques among other avenues, many of which are established in the USA for the purpose to promote Sharia law within our Borders.
Maybe one day we will grow a backbone and assign blame where it rightly belongs; our partner in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia.
Christie has a history of pandering to his moslem friends. Nothing he does or says in that reference should be believed.
Didn’t he even appoint a muslim as a judge?
The MSA IS a dangerous (stealth) Islamist organization, the likes of which should cause nightmares.
I watched their da’wa (‘outreach’) very closely while my son attended MIT from 2003-2007. I understood their alliances and was very alarmed that they shared (and still do) floor space with Hillel…..foxes in the hen house.
To be sure, when one speaks to their leaders butter could melt in their mouths. Dig a little deeper, and one finds that their speakers are inextricably tied to Islamic terror hydras, yet the administration pretended otherwise. They just wouldn’t listen…..
Therefore, the fact that the NYPD had its eyes and ears on the ‘student’ population, via the MSA, only attests to how good they are at what they do. To be sure, anyone who tries to shut down these investigations has to be brushed aside or placed under surveillance for aiding and abetting.
BTW-Ms Siddiqui, one of the co-conspirators of 9/11/01, currently serving life in prison, was a Pakistani exchange student at MIT (a grad student at Brandeis too)AND a leader at MIT’s MSA in the 1990′s!!
In addition, I refer the readers to ‘The Muslim Mafia’ by Gaubatz and Sperry. It will elucidate further, plus give much more substantive information.
I have the impression that things are really a lot worse than we know. the muslim agenda is to create chaos, divisive hatreds, and intimidation on school campuses and in the courts in order to promote their dominance. using our freedoms to accomplish their goals, in their limited worldview, is a win.
the freedom to complain about and assert oneself to protect the rights of private citizens vis a vis the police, is their favorite freedom to twist beyond recognition or common sense.
the constant insinuation of the muslims into our society is a daily affair. progressive media such as the ny slimes, MSCNBC and the rest love this ratings fodder and will pick up the muslim daily bullshit line regardless of how it comprimises the safety, security and quality of life of americans.
as of today, we have a mayor and police commissioner who refuse to be diminished.
whether it is weakening or eliminating stop and frisk or mosque and school surveillance and investigations, muslims find it in their best interests to push this anti-nypd agenda.
this president, this department of justice, favors appeasing muslims and importing as many of them as possible.
since we can’t change islam and we can’t change their minds we need to change presidents’. desperately.
That’s sort of like saying, “Jay Carney’s first statements echoed President Obama’s talking points”.