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Two Dames and a Saint

April 28th, 2014 - 6:37 pm

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It’s not really fair to compare Peggy Noonan to Maureen Dowd. One is an intelligent, insightful observer of events and a graceful writer; the other is a New York Times columnist. Clearly, it’s like staging a duel between d’Artagnan and an unarmed man.

Still I couldn’t help noticing that each lady wrote a column about Sunday’s canonization of Popes John XXIII and John Paul II that was indicative of her political philosophy. The center-right Noonan was warm and wise; the leftist Dowd was ridiculous.

Now let me say that my interest in Vatican matters is only that of a friendly outsider. I have many Catholic friends and have read a lot of Catholic theology with awe and admiration but I don’t have much of an emotional connection to the church part of things. In fact, when I heard there was an event involving cannons and Roman numerals, I figured it was a replay of the Super Bowl. (Hahahaha. Ah man, I crack myself up sometimes!)

But I did live through the Pope-hood or Popedom or Popitude or whatever it is of John Paul II, and I thought he was one of the greatest heroes of the second part of the 20th century, a giant among men. It would be wrong to say he brought down the Soviet Union single-handed, but (as with Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher) it’s perfectly fair to believe that that massive, murderous and imperialist slave state might well not have fallen without his efforts. That’s, like, 300-million people set free. I don’t need the church to tell me the guy was a saint.

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I look forward to Ms. Dowd's upcoming expose on the continuing sexual abuse scandal in this country's public school system and the teacher's unions attempts to cover it up.
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Reading Dowd one comes away with the powerful sensation that describing the experience would SOUND the same, but there is a difference between shrewd and "Shrewed".

When the radical left is done sliming Judeo-Christians...yet again...as is usual...they get most of it on themselves. The saints would, of course, preach forgiveness of her.

Which is why I will never be canonized. I have run out of cheeks to turn. The radical left is not merely unholy. They live in darkness and I oppose every tenet of their means, their morality and their mission of that darkness.
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Jesus was guilty of healing, preaching, casting out demons and raising from the dead--activities that most rational people would consider admirable. Yet they condemned Him and killed Him. So there is little surprise that those who follow Him should come under the same sort of accusation.

A modern leftist would be very comfortable in the Sanhedrin of 33AD.
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Has MoDo's employer, the New York Times, repudiated their boy Duranty's Pulitzer Prize yet?
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Maureen Dowd is what she has always been, a turd. A true simpleton and symbol of the decline in professional journalism, particularly for the "Grey Lady".
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The New York Times has for many years served Catholics in the Northeast area with a valuable service during Lent and Holy week, lovingly providing a low cost and environmentally safe alternative to wrap fish. It would be ungrateful not to recognize that charity. As for Ms. Dowd you must be a bit more understanding and see that in her mind Ronald Reagan and John Paul II were simply a "country bumpkin" and a "dumb Pollack" which goes to prove that God has chosen the foolish things of the world to dumbfound the wise. At every corner of history David keeps defeating Goliath. Dowd and the Philistines can do nothing but brood in the shadows contemplating greatness. That's why the current occupant of the White House sent that bust of Winston Churchill back to England. Pettiness is always the fruit of dimwitted cowardice. The backward sodomites who blew up the towers of the WTC did the same. Unable to create a worldwide system of commerce based in freedom and prosperity they destroyed a symbol thus showing their own envy and hate. An intellectual midget like Dowd can only try to pass for a writer by attacking someone great. John Paul the Great will be remembered centuries from now but only God knows if Dowd will have a paper to write on next year.
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I suspect Maureen Dowd DOES know what the "child abuse" was really all about, but reporting that doesn't fit her template.
BTW: I note that the most virulent anti-Catholic diatribes are spewed by reprobate Catholics like Ms. Dowd.
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I can not find anywhere in the New testament that reads an individual can be made a Saint where people alive on earth today can pray to them and ask them for safe driving conditions or any other such requests.

The next thing you know the Universal Church will make Mary the mother of Jesus's human body the Queen of Heaven and Co-Regent with the son of G-d. Is there anything in the New Testament or the old Testament about the Queen of Heaven and praying to dead humans? I think so.

Dam the paganism!
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Maybe you should read that New Testament. Read about the "cloud of witnesses". Read about our God being the God of the living, not the dead. Read about the Saints in Heaven carrying the prayers of the faithful to the altar of God. Read about the Father giving all authority in Heaven and on Earth to His Son, and about the Son giving the keys to His kingdom and the power to bind and loosen to His steward, Peter, whom He named Rock and proclaimed that His Church would be built upon him. Read about Jesus being the eternal heir of the Davidic throne and how in the Davidic kingdom the mother of the King is his Queen, not the king's wife as is the practice of Europeans.

The next thing you know is that you might understand the Scriptures. You might remember that the Bible is a Catholic book, originally compiled, duly authorized, published and preserved through the centuries by the Christians of the Catholic Church. And when you understand the Bible, you'll either believe it and become Catholic or disbelieve it and reject Jesus Christ.
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Your commentary is not quite on topic but since you brought it up, there are reasons why Mary Most Holy should be considered, in fact she was predestined, to share in the sufferings of the Cross. Since you probably are acquainted with Scripture allow me to remind you that sin entered the world because one fallen angel fooled the first woman into envying God's power and glory, the first man followed. Thus sin and death entered the world. In that perfect symmetry that God has given to His creation, a Holy Angel honestly presented Mary with a plan to serve God and save man. She accepted and the Savior came through her and so salvation and life entered the world. See the symmetry? Fast forward to the Cross. When Jesus was hanging on the Cross, the Church was absent. Everyone deserted Him and hid away because we imperfect humans naturally run from the Cross, we do not like to suffer. At most we can do like St John who stood there feeling sorry for his Lord. But Mary was not there merely feeling sorry for her Son: she was there as a Mother, wanting with every fiber of her body to own the pain of Jesus, she wanted that suffering so that her Son would be spared, she counterbalanced the envy of Eve and Satan for the happiness of God. To do it, Mary desired the sufferings of Jesus for herself and in doing so she contributed an essential part of the plan of salvation, a part that not even God could provide because it had to come from the free will of a woman. That is why Mary is co-Redemptrix and that is why the gebirah the queen of Israel was the king’s mother, showing thus the future reality of Mary the glory of her people Israel. If you can spend a dollar and read Ark of Grace - Our Blessed Mother in Holy Scripture available through the Kindle service in Amazon.com that is a brief book that will show you why Catholics believe all they believe about Mary and how the Bible supports every bit of it.
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Catino,

I support your right to believe in utter nonsense. Mary, a fully human female was born in a imperfect human body tainted by sin. She gave birth to Jesus's brothers, and sisters. Real ones, not fellow travelers in Christ. The Queen of Heaven is Semiramis Nimrod's mother and wife.

Mary needed the blood of Christ just as all other humans do in order to not have to pay the price for sin.

What really happened is as follows" Lucifer the Arch Angel said G-d's laws are not just. They keep him and others from ascending to a higher creation. G-d could have made Lucifer worship him, but showed heaven and earth G-d's laws are just.

How do we know G-d's laws are just. Because, breaking G-d's laws require a price be paid. G-d died a perfect death for human sin. Showing Lucifer he was wrong and the third of the heavenly host with him.

Mary as co-Regent is paganism. Pure and simple. It also cheapens the Blood of Christ. To ad insult to injury Christ's last supper on earth before his death was with real bread and wine. It did not turn into real blood and flesh. It was symbolic then and it will never turn into blood and flesh when a priest prays over wine and bread to become so.

Easter is worshiping the Queen of Heaven. Passover, and the last day of Passover is symbolic of Christ's blood. The Universal Church has corrupted the true Church of Christ and filled it with Babylonian mysteries. Come out of her.
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I do not support your believing utter nonsense because it may cost you your soul and that is too precious a gift to be wasted. Your response comes from the interpretations of Alexander Hislop (The Two Babylons;) Ralph Woodrow (Babylon Mystery Religion, The Babylon Connection;) and lately from Dave Hunt's regurgitation of those old books A Woman Rides the Beast a favorite of Jehovah's Witnesses, and Jack Chick followers too. You are going to need something a little bit more serious to attack 20 centuries of Marian doctrine. Signing off and God love you.
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When we see the author listed we always have the choice to read or use it for the bottom of the birdcage.... Dowd, owns the birdcage business....
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The dropping improve her writing very much IMHO. Good thing canaries don't read though!
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Dowd needs to read the actual Constitution fro front to back and then explain where the Government has a legal FOUNDATION in the real Constitution to pass and enforce the Statute. The entire three branches of the Federal government are Usurping the LIMITS of Article I section 8. They are also ignoring the limits of Article I, II and III on the 3 branches.

http://articlevprojecttorestoreliberty.com/insist-it-means-what-it-says-it-means.html
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When the Constitution says "Congress shall make no law" regarding establishing religion, they did NOT even hint that school children or teachers or towns supporting Christian holidays and praying were equal to Congress passing laws. Federal judges have severely overreached the bounds of reason in ruling otherwise.
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Maureen Dowd is the next Helen Thomas in training. She's doing well, by that standard. Of course she's learning at the Bolshoi of hate, so she has an advantage there.
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Ms. Noonan is a proud, avowed, practicing Roman Catholic. As well as being a superlative writer and observer of the Political scene.
While Ms. Dowd is an avowed religion hating, Police State worshiping Socialist.
Take yer pick.
16 weeks ago
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President Reagan was baptized and raised as a Disciple of Christ. His brother Neal was baptized Catholic, raised a disciple of Christ and reverted to Catholicism. Michael Reagan is Catholic. Ron Jr. is an Atheist.
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"Ms. Noonan is a proud, avowed, practicing Roman Catholic."

Thanks for that information. I had not known that.

That explains why someone who once had a reputation as a conservative turned out to be, shall we say, somewhat unreliable.

This is the norm with Roman Catholics in office, too.

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Sorry for not being sufficiently pure for you. Reagan said that anybody who agrees with me 80% of the time is my friend, not my adversary. His sunny disposition appealed to Catholic voters. Conservatives must learn to not be Oscar the Grouch.
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You perhaps missed that she supported Obama in the last couple of elections?

Methinks that goes a bit beyond being "not pure enough".

With friends like that....
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You must be terribly lonely on Earth, given that there's no crowd of perfect people here in the flesh for you to pal around with and you reject everyone else.
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No problem. There's no shortage of people who managed to avoid voting for the most obviously evil Presidential candidate ever.

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How true! However there are many Catholics who are also solid Conservatives and though they are not the majority in the American Catholic Church they can do much to help the cause of Conservatism. Bill Buckley is, in my humble opinion, a shining example. Also remember that Ronald Reagan grew up in a Catholic home and he did not turn out that badly.
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Yes, like his liberalism, he left that behind for truth.

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I am sorry to inform you that even he admitted that his divorce was incompatible with the Catholic faith (like his support for abortion which he later dropped) and so he took the next best thing. Truth does not come in 30,000 packages but in one. If you ask Buckley (he says so much in his books) and some more recent authors also, the core of the beliefs of Liberalism comes from Protestantism. In the very beginning "Liberals" were called so because they were self "liberated" from Church and King. Church being the Catholic Church by then the only Church available (except perhaps the Orientals who walked away on 1054.) The German Reformation is the natural progenitor of Liberalism and Modernism. Soon we will see the 500th anniversary of the great rebellion of 1517. First they got rid of Rome, soon the kings followed, then nobility, then Marx attacked the bourgeoisie and finally in 1968 the final rebellion against all authority. All of that can easily be traced back to the 95 theses nailed on the door of Wittenberg's Church. I say this, brother, without bitterness at all. There are many lies, too many, that have been uttered to support the 'truth' you talk about.
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They are both Obama supporters or were during the elections anyway. I have no use for either.
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That is the truth unfortunately but I think Noonan changed her mind about Obie. I quote her: "So he [Obie] is losing a battle in which he had superior forces—the presidency, the U.S. Senate. In the process he revealed that his foes have given him too much mystique. He is not a devil, an alien, a socialist. He is a loser. And this is America, where nobody loves a loser."
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So, she proves she doesn't know much. His problem is not that he's a loser.

His problem is that he's a communist.

Anybody who still thinks Obama is stupid, is stupid.

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The noun, pontificate, refers to the term of a pope.

The verb, pontificate, has become a pejorative for a lengthy, content-free discourse. Perhaps it's applicable to a Maureen Dowd column.
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